EPTPLayhem TV Disgrace Katu - Page 46
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
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GatorGar
Somalia77 Posts
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TrickyGilligan
United States641 Posts
On March 01 2012 07:49 Blasterion wrote: Tolerance and Acceptance of behavior like this is probably why the foreign scene will never be able to be taken seriously. which is why Korea was successful and the foreign scene were not. Since everything is a troll and a joke right? Show me all of the tolerance and acceptance going on in this thread, I must have missed it. | ||
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creamer
Canada128 Posts
Somethings just are not meant to be said and this is a clear example. SC2 is striving to become recognized as a legitimate and professional contest and has no room for a lack of professionalism as seen here. In this case, not only does Katu initiate this, he continues it for a quarter of an hour afterwards and continues to antagonize the viewers that bring in revenue for his employer. Yes, the SC2 community is sensitive, and it is not uncommon for you to find ~50 people whining about spoilers on any giving thread but this has nothing to do with sensitivity. This is a legitimate issue and Katu has to suffer the consequences. Also, the Playhem daily is actually a really great show with good quality streaming and high level games. It's also provided daily (hence the name) and free. I will continue to watch the show as I find it a nice way to end my night. That said, I believe Katu should make a public apology because it seems to be the right thing to do, and he should at the very least take a break from casting playhem. That's all. PS: Has he made an apology yet? | ||
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fAnTaCy
United States893 Posts
On March 01 2012 07:50 GatorGar wrote: I like how if a professional player stream cheats all is forgiven but if a caster shows some bias towards a player one time he is burned at the stake. I like that. Good job for setting bullshit double standards community. Maybe you should show Katu the same forgiveness that you showed Dragon. Ever think of that? Once again with this the ammount of brightness in this thread is minimal..so no..they haven't thought of that, theycan't put two and two together ]= And yes Katu has made a public apology, its' in the OP :3 | ||
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creamer
Canada128 Posts
On March 01 2012 07:50 GatorGar wrote: I like how if a professional player stream cheats all is forgiven but if a caster shows some bias towards a player one time he is burned at the stake. I like that. Good job for setting bullshit double standards community. Maybe you should show Katu the same forgiveness that you showed Dragon. Ever think of that? This double standard exists in every sort of competition. News anchors and sports casters are fired all of the time for making comments outside of boundaries. Athletes do disgraceful things all the time: Michael Vick (dog fighting), Plexico Burres (accidentally wounded himself with a firearm in a club). This is the way it is and the way it shall remain. Did you ever think it's like this for a reason? And do you think SC2 has a chance of making it to the main stage of entertainment if we'll be letting shit like this off the hook? | ||
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On March 01 2012 07:46 Longshank wrote: So you decided to remove him for some time from your events which, to my knowledge, got nothing to do with Playhem, only because of a vocal minority? Wow, someone said overreaction? I did not decide to remove him. We mutually agreed that it would be wise for him to take a brief vacation. | ||
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SnipedSoul
Canada2158 Posts
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
On March 01 2012 07:50 GatorGar wrote: I like how if a professional player stream cheats all is forgiven but if a caster shows some bias towards a player one time he is burned at the stake. I like that. Good job for setting bullshit double standards community. Maybe you should show Katu the same forgiveness that you showed Dragon. Ever think of that? How about learning to read this thread instead of jumping the gun? Katu did this before; he indirectly attacked destiny during one of the playhems with homosexual talks. He was forgiven, but not this time. Insulting a player is always a crime for sports as the players are the ones who put in the hard work to train for tournaments. By insulting them, you're not respecting the hard work they put in. Same as dragon. Katu disrespected dragon's hard work by claiming that he was stream cheating (this part negligible as he was really joking about this) but further claims on dragon getting the boot from slayers is because he cheated was totally uncalled for. | ||
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Longshank
1648 Posts
On March 01 2012 07:50 GatorGar wrote: I like how if a professional player stream cheats all is forgiven but if a caster shows some bias towards a player one time he is burned at the stake. I like that. Good job for setting bullshit double standards community. Maybe you should show Katu the same forgiveness that you showed Dragon. Ever think of that? Same forgiveness as in a couple of months in the freezer, fired from your employer, public uproar when he gets back to casting after that and the burden of shame for years to come? Nah I don't think anyone here wants that, but he has deserved to be named and shamed a little. | ||
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Mrvoodoochild1
United States1439 Posts
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Longshank
1648 Posts
On March 01 2012 08:02 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote: So I guess of I want to get my name in the public spotlight, I should start trolling people. Killing or raping them would be even more effective. | ||
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GatorGar
Somalia77 Posts
On March 01 2012 07:54 creamer wrote: Did you ever think it's like this for a reason? And do you think SC2 has a chance of making it to the main stage of entertainment if we'll be letting shit like this off the hook? That's a valid point. One can make the case that casters themselves are viewed by far more fans than the actual players; Katu was casting probably 15 or more different players during each Playhem, and as a result he carries more weight in terms of how our sport is viewed. Michael Vick is an inaccurate example; his antics occurred off the field and did not increase his odds of winning the game. Riddle me this: What would the NFL do if they found out one of their quarterbacks paid off referees to get favorable calls during a game to try and win? PERMANENTLY SHITCAN HIS ASS! Dragon's cheating compares much more closely with my example than with yours about Vick. If you can forgive Dragon, you can forgive Katu. | ||
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Tektos
Australia1321 Posts
On March 01 2012 08:08 GatorGar wrote: That's a valid point. One can make the case that casters themselves are viewed by far more fans than the actual players; Katu was casting probably 15 or more different players during each Playhem, and as a result he carries more weight in terms of how our sport is viewed. Michael Vick is an inaccurate example; his antics occurred off the field and did not increase his odds of winning the game. Riddle me this: What would the NFL do if they found out one of their quarterbacks paid off referees to get favorable calls during a game to try and win? PERMANENTLY SHITCAN HIS ASS! Dragon's cheating compares much more closely with my example than with yours about Vick. If you can forgive Dragon, you can forgive Katu. Sorry but can you link me to this proof that Dragon was caught cheating in a tournament match? | ||
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Prplppleatr
United States1518 Posts
On March 01 2012 08:16 Tektos wrote: Sorry but can you link me to this proof that Dragon was caught cheating in a tournament match? The controversy i think people are referring to is in his liquipedia page, under controversy. | ||
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Longshank
1648 Posts
On March 01 2012 08:08 GatorGar wrote: Dragon's cheating compares much more closely with my example than with yours about Vick. If you can forgive Dragon, you can forgive Katu. Of course, check back with the community in 18 months and we'll see if Katu's been forgiven to the same degree as Dragon has been at this point. I'd wager yes, by all five of us who'll remember him. | ||
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Tektos
Australia1321 Posts
On March 01 2012 08:20 Prplppleatr wrote: The controversy i think people are referring to is in his liquipedia page, under controversy. Exactly, there isn't proof of straight up cheating only the use of a smurf account in a tournament. It is all very hazy and in all honesty to do what Katu did without cold hard facts is just wrong. "he then replied that "he was sorry for what he had done" but didn't go into detail which parts of the allegations were true" | ||
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halfies
United Kingdom327 Posts
On March 01 2012 08:01 HaruRH wrote: How about learning to read this thread instead of jumping the gun? Katu did this before; he indirectly attacked destiny during one of the playhems with homosexual talks. He was forgiven, but not this time. Insulting a player is always a crime for sports as the players are the ones who put in the hard work to train for tournaments. By insulting them, you're not respecting the hard work they put in. Same as dragon. Katu disrespected dragon's hard work by claiming that he was stream cheating (this part negligible as he was really joking about this) but further claims on dragon getting the boot from slayers is because he cheated was totally uncalled for. yeah, but dragon is a stream cheater. all the dragon fanboys in this thread pretending hes some kiind of angel. he definitely has stream cheated in the past, and he does silly little things like laddering accounts for money on his stream, which while not really serious, is still kind of bad | ||
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EienShinwa
United States655 Posts
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
MOLETRAP is the one who should really be taken down for this. He constantly calls the players "bad." | ||
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