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LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9016 Posts
February 29 2012 17:28 GMT
#861
Man people really love bringing out the pitchforks. Guess they can't let them get too rusty...
tapk69
Profile Joined January 2011
Portugal264 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 17:56:53
February 29 2012 17:55 GMT
#862
well , saying that Katu should be sued is pretty ridiculous...

Dragon is a troll on his stream , so he was trolled.. His nickname is "Ladyboy" ( liquipedia ) and that is pretty offensive ...

Dragon dances after wins , sings ,trolls with chat , he also does kong dance and such , so THIS is/was a professional behavior?

Everyone likes to throw rocks , but no one helps each other when they fall and need a helping hand !


And one more thing , in the VOD , he just said he might be stream- cheating and that he possibly was a stream- cheater ...
Its his opinion , if you guys dont agree , just state that to him , but getting him fired , saying you wont listen to him again is wrong ( as wrong as 2 year olds smoking PCP )
ja foste
sidonelis
Profile Joined April 2011
Lithuania58 Posts
February 29 2012 18:29 GMT
#863
On March 01 2012 02:12 Gustis wrote:
Are capital PL in the thread title implying that douchy behaviour is similar to that of polish people?


Are you retarded?

User was warned for this post
Gustis
Profile Joined February 2011
Lithuania70 Posts
February 29 2012 18:31 GMT
#864
On March 01 2012 03:29 sidonelis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 02:12 Gustis wrote:
Are capital PL in the thread title implying that douchy behaviour is similar to that of polish people?


Are you retarded?


I think you confuse me with the people of poland...

User was warned for this post
Real men 4gate.
sidonelis
Profile Joined April 2011
Lithuania58 Posts
February 29 2012 18:32 GMT
#865
On March 01 2012 03:31 Gustis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 03:29 sidonelis wrote:
On March 01 2012 02:12 Gustis wrote:
Are capital PL in the thread title implying that douchy behaviour is similar to that of polish people?


Are you retarded?


I think you confuse me with the people of poland...


Could be. Heard they cant even shoot straight.
CyDe
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1010 Posts
February 29 2012 18:33 GMT
#866
On March 01 2012 02:55 tapk69 wrote:
well , saying that Katu should be sued is pretty ridiculous...

Dragon is a troll on his stream , so he was trolled.. His nickname is "Ladyboy" ( liquipedia ) and that is pretty offensive ...

Dragon dances after wins , sings ,trolls with chat , he also does kong dance and such , so THIS is/was a professional behavior?

Everyone likes to throw rocks , but no one helps each other when they fall and need a helping hand !


And one more thing , in the VOD , he just said he might be stream- cheating and that he possibly was a stream- cheater ...
Its his opinion , if you guys dont agree , just state that to him , but getting him fired , saying you wont listen to him again is wrong ( as wrong as 2 year olds smoking PCP )

So because he has acted wrong in the past, he deserves to be put down on air in a live event in front of thousands of people? By somebody who is clearly not trying to fix any sort of situation, just make people angry? Doesn't work.

I am very happy that the other caster was very uncomfortable, and made very obvious efforts to disconnect himself from Katu. Was probably the best thing that he could have done in that situation.
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MerdaPura
Profile Joined February 2012
Brazil148 Posts
February 29 2012 18:35 GMT
#867
He fucked up. Everybody fucks up.
Just move on, he did what he needed to, apologized and everything. Just move on.
hli
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada32 Posts
February 29 2012 18:51 GMT
#868
I watched this live and I was pretty unhappy... Dragon was clearly not cheating.as he had his stream up, super unprofessional.

I'm glad PlayHem is taking the necesarry actions to regain the respect of the fans.
Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 18:58:13
February 29 2012 18:53 GMT
#869
On February 29 2012 09:07 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 09:04 Prplppleatr wrote:
Whats the big deal here?

Katu trolled a chat...what caster doesn't do that?

Every caster that I have watched (Bitterdam, Tastosis, HD/PU, Cats/Doa, Kaelaris, Khaldor, Robin/Kibblez/other playhem casters) has trolled a chat at some point.

If you are going to hold Katu to this magically high standard, then be fair and hold everyone to that standard.

He put a well known player's reputation in jeopardy.


How did he do that? Everything he stated was a fact (other than the troll that "hes stream cheating"). If it is a fact, it is not slander, it is the truth! (in the US, at least)

This is my point. Trolling is trolling, almost everyone in THIS community does it, including casters. If you are going to throw this caster under the bus for trolling, then throw them all under.

I have never enjoyed trolling or enjoyed watching people troll/be trolled, it is a mean-spirited and a$$hole thing to do that is only looking to get an emotional response out of someone. But, as far as i can see, it is an accepted expression in this community because of the vast majority of people who do it.
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PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
February 29 2012 18:56 GMT
#870
On March 01 2012 03:53 Prplppleatr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 09:07 Blasterion wrote:
On February 29 2012 09:04 Prplppleatr wrote:
Whats the big deal here?

Katu trolled a chat...what caster doesn't do that?

Every caster that I have watched (Bitterdam, Tastosis, HD/PU, Cats/Doa, Kaelaris, Khaldor, Robin/Kibblez/other playhem casters) has trolled a chat at some point.

If you are going to hold Katu to this magically high standard, then be fair and hold everyone to that standard.

He put a well known player's reputation in jeopardy.


How did he do that? Everything he stated was a fact (other than the troll that "hes stream cheating"). If it is a fact, it is not slander, it is the truth! (in the US, at least)

This is my point. Trolling is trolling, almost everyone in THIS community does it, including casters. If you are going to throw this caster under the bus for trolling, then throw them all under.

I have never enjoyed trolling or enjoyed watching people troll/be trolled, it is a mean-spirited and a$$hole thing to do that is only looking to get an emotional response out of someone. But, as far as i can see, it is an accepted expression in this community because of the vast majority of people who do it.


1.) No, it was not fact, stop lying right now. (You're saying its fact when its not, so you're being a liar right now, I'm going to have to ask you to stop spreading shit information please.)
2.) No, only idiots troll in "this community". Sure, trolling is fun, but you don't do that shit here.
3.) No its not accepted, only idiots/childish minds accept it.
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ZRand
Profile Joined September 2011
38 Posts
February 29 2012 19:05 GMT
#871
Starcraft is a staunchly unforgiving community. Although the regulations of how to behave in and out of the game seem rather stiff, I guess it's a good thing to set an example of professionalism in the future.
Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
February 29 2012 19:10 GMT
#872
On March 01 2012 03:56 PanN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 03:53 Prplppleatr wrote:
On February 29 2012 09:07 Blasterion wrote:
On February 29 2012 09:04 Prplppleatr wrote:
Whats the big deal here?

Katu trolled a chat...what caster doesn't do that?

Every caster that I have watched (Bitterdam, Tastosis, HD/PU, Cats/Doa, Kaelaris, Khaldor, Robin/Kibblez/other playhem casters) has trolled a chat at some point.

If you are going to hold Katu to this magically high standard, then be fair and hold everyone to that standard.

He put a well known player's reputation in jeopardy.


How did he do that? Everything he stated was a fact (other than the troll that "hes stream cheating"). If it is a fact, it is not slander, it is the truth! (in the US, at least)

This is my point. Trolling is trolling, almost everyone in THIS community does it, including casters. If you are going to throw this caster under the bus for trolling, then throw them all under.

I have never enjoyed trolling or enjoyed watching people troll/be trolled, it is a mean-spirited and a$$hole thing to do that is only looking to get an emotional response out of someone. But, as far as i can see, it is an accepted expression in this community because of the vast majority of people who do it.


1.) No, it was not fact, stop lying right now. (You're saying its fact when its not, so you're being a liar right now, I'm going to have to ask you to stop spreading shit information please.)
2.) No, only idiots troll in "this community". Sure, trolling is fun, but you don't do that shit here.
3.) No its not accepted, only idiots/childish minds accept it.


Allow me to clarify. I still stand by what i stated.

As someone has already posted the controversy Katu was speaking of is in Dragon Liquipedia profie, under controversy.

These are not lies, they are facts that have been posted on Liquipedia, im assuming they have their facts straight. If not, I apologize, and im guessing so does TL. I am not trying to insinuate anything or spread any type of rumors or lies, I simply want the facts to be presented correctly.

After speaking with TheStC and members of WeRRa, Dragon publicly apologized to TheStC, members of oGs and WeRRa. After Dragon was accused of maphacking, streamcheating and match fixing on PlayXP-forums[9], he then replied that "he was sorry for what he had done" but didn't go into detail which parts of the allegations were true. Furthermore he stated that he would “never dream of other tournaments, televised matches, or pursue a career as a pro-gamer.”[10]


I agree only idiots in the community troll.

I disagree that it is not accepted. I agree that only those minds accept it.
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gn0m
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden302 Posts
February 29 2012 19:13 GMT
#873
Okay, I just watched the replay of Katu's "disgrace". How can ppl even be upset about this? The SC2 scene is so ridiculously sensitive.
-_-
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
February 29 2012 19:14 GMT
#874
On March 01 2012 03:53 Prplppleatr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 09:07 Blasterion wrote:
On February 29 2012 09:04 Prplppleatr wrote:
Whats the big deal here?

Katu trolled a chat...what caster doesn't do that?

Every caster that I have watched (Bitterdam, Tastosis, HD/PU, Cats/Doa, Kaelaris, Khaldor, Robin/Kibblez/other playhem casters) has trolled a chat at some point.

If you are going to hold Katu to this magically high standard, then be fair and hold everyone to that standard.

He put a well known player's reputation in jeopardy.


How did he do that? Everything he stated was a fact (other than the troll that "hes stream cheating"). If it is a fact, it is not slander, it is the truth! (in the US, at least)

This is my point. Trolling is trolling, almost everyone in THIS community does it, including casters. If you are going to throw this caster under the bus for trolling, then throw them all under.

I have never enjoyed trolling or enjoyed watching people troll/be trolled, it is a mean-spirited and a$$hole thing to do that is only looking to get an emotional response out of someone. But, as far as i can see, it is an accepted expression in this community because of the vast majority of people who do it.


He did not state facts. He stated that dragon is banned from GSL (not true, he is not) and that dragon was kicked out of slayers for stream cheating (not true, his stream cheating incident was in werra, he left slayers to pursue a normal carrear, he did not stream cheat after the incident while in werra.)
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PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
February 29 2012 19:19 GMT
#875
On March 01 2012 04:10 Prplppleatr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 03:56 PanN wrote:
On March 01 2012 03:53 Prplppleatr wrote:
On February 29 2012 09:07 Blasterion wrote:
On February 29 2012 09:04 Prplppleatr wrote:
Whats the big deal here?

Katu trolled a chat...what caster doesn't do that?

Every caster that I have watched (Bitterdam, Tastosis, HD/PU, Cats/Doa, Kaelaris, Khaldor, Robin/Kibblez/other playhem casters) has trolled a chat at some point.

If you are going to hold Katu to this magically high standard, then be fair and hold everyone to that standard.

He put a well known player's reputation in jeopardy.


How did he do that? Everything he stated was a fact (other than the troll that "hes stream cheating"). If it is a fact, it is not slander, it is the truth! (in the US, at least)

This is my point. Trolling is trolling, almost everyone in THIS community does it, including casters. If you are going to throw this caster under the bus for trolling, then throw them all under.

I have never enjoyed trolling or enjoyed watching people troll/be trolled, it is a mean-spirited and a$$hole thing to do that is only looking to get an emotional response out of someone. But, as far as i can see, it is an accepted expression in this community because of the vast majority of people who do it.


1.) No, it was not fact, stop lying right now. (You're saying its fact when its not, so you're being a liar right now, I'm going to have to ask you to stop spreading shit information please.)
2.) No, only idiots troll in "this community". Sure, trolling is fun, but you don't do that shit here.
3.) No its not accepted, only idiots/childish minds accept it.


Allow me to clarify. I still stand by what i stated.

As someone has already posted the controversy Katu was speaking of is in Dragon Liquipedia profie, under controversy.

These are not lies, they are facts that have been posted on Liquipedia, im assuming they have their facts straight. If not, I apologize, and im guessing so does TL. I am not trying to insinuate anything or spread any type of rumors or lies, I simply want the facts to be presented correctly.

Show nested quote +
After speaking with TheStC and members of WeRRa, Dragon publicly apologized to TheStC, members of oGs and WeRRa. After Dragon was accused of maphacking, streamcheating and match fixing on PlayXP-forums[9], he then replied that "he was sorry for what he had done" but didn't go into detail which parts of the allegations were true. Furthermore he stated that he would “never dream of other tournaments, televised matches, or pursue a career as a pro-gamer.”[10]


I agree only idiots in the community troll.

I disagree that it is not accepted. I agree that only those minds accept it.


You clearly didn't even watch the original video involving Katu, I recommend you do so that you can educate yourself on the lies that you yourself have helped spread. Our discussion is over.
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
Bwiggly
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States246 Posts
February 29 2012 19:27 GMT
#876
After watching the VOD's it's really seeming like fans of Dragon are reallllly overreacting and Dragon now has benefitted from this so much when it was just random misinformed bantering by Katu which really only needed a public apology.
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
February 29 2012 19:29 GMT
#877
On March 01 2012 04:27 Bwiggly wrote:
After watching the VOD's it's really seeming like fans of Dragon are reallllly overreacting and Dragon now has benefitted from this so much when it was just random misinformed bantering by Katu which really only needed a public apology.


No it wasn't just "random misinformed bantering", that would imply some sort of innocence on katu's side. Katu knew exactly what he was doing.
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Tnerb
Profile Joined May 2010
United States141 Posts
February 29 2012 19:29 GMT
#878
On March 01 2012 04:10 Prplppleatr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 03:56 PanN wrote:
On March 01 2012 03:53 Prplppleatr wrote:
On February 29 2012 09:07 Blasterion wrote:
On February 29 2012 09:04 Prplppleatr wrote:
Whats the big deal here?

Katu trolled a chat...what caster doesn't do that?

Every caster that I have watched (Bitterdam, Tastosis, HD/PU, Cats/Doa, Kaelaris, Khaldor, Robin/Kibblez/other playhem casters) has trolled a chat at some point.

If you are going to hold Katu to this magically high standard, then be fair and hold everyone to that standard.

He put a well known player's reputation in jeopardy.


How did he do that? Everything he stated was a fact (other than the troll that "hes stream cheating"). If it is a fact, it is not slander, it is the truth! (in the US, at least)

This is my point. Trolling is trolling, almost everyone in THIS community does it, including casters. If you are going to throw this caster under the bus for trolling, then throw them all under.

I have never enjoyed trolling or enjoyed watching people troll/be trolled, it is a mean-spirited and a$$hole thing to do that is only looking to get an emotional response out of someone. But, as far as i can see, it is an accepted expression in this community because of the vast majority of people who do it.


1.) No, it was not fact, stop lying right now. (You're saying its fact when its not, so you're being a liar right now, I'm going to have to ask you to stop spreading shit information please.)
2.) No, only idiots troll in "this community". Sure, trolling is fun, but you don't do that shit here.
3.) No its not accepted, only idiots/childish minds accept it.


Allow me to clarify. I still stand by what i stated.

As someone has already posted the controversy Katu was speaking of is in Dragon Liquipedia profie, under controversy.

These are not lies, they are facts that have been posted on Liquipedia, im assuming they have their facts straight. If not, I apologize, and im guessing so does TL. I am not trying to insinuate anything or spread any type of rumors or lies, I simply want the facts to be presented correctly.

Show nested quote +
After speaking with TheStC and members of WeRRa, Dragon publicly apologized to TheStC, members of oGs and WeRRa. After Dragon was accused of maphacking, streamcheating and match fixing on PlayXP-forums[9], he then replied that "he was sorry for what he had done" but didn't go into detail which parts of the allegations were true. Furthermore he stated that he would “never dream of other tournaments, televised matches, or pursue a career as a pro-gamer.”[10]


I agree only idiots in the community troll.

I disagree that it is not accepted. I agree that only those minds accept it.


Before you take a side on a issue (especially in such a public way lol) it is important to actually know about what you are talking about.

You clearly haven't watched the video or you would know that Katu did NOT state the truths on Dragon's liquipedia but instead made up various lies including that Dragon was banned from GSL and was kicked from Slayers.


SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
February 29 2012 19:29 GMT
#879
On March 01 2012 04:10 Prplppleatr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 03:56 PanN wrote:
On March 01 2012 03:53 Prplppleatr wrote:
On February 29 2012 09:07 Blasterion wrote:
On February 29 2012 09:04 Prplppleatr wrote:
Whats the big deal here?

Katu trolled a chat...what caster doesn't do that?

Every caster that I have watched (Bitterdam, Tastosis, HD/PU, Cats/Doa, Kaelaris, Khaldor, Robin/Kibblez/other playhem casters) has trolled a chat at some point.

If you are going to hold Katu to this magically high standard, then be fair and hold everyone to that standard.

He put a well known player's reputation in jeopardy.


How did he do that? Everything he stated was a fact (other than the troll that "hes stream cheating"). If it is a fact, it is not slander, it is the truth! (in the US, at least)

This is my point. Trolling is trolling, almost everyone in THIS community does it, including casters. If you are going to throw this caster under the bus for trolling, then throw them all under.

I have never enjoyed trolling or enjoyed watching people troll/be trolled, it is a mean-spirited and a$$hole thing to do that is only looking to get an emotional response out of someone. But, as far as i can see, it is an accepted expression in this community because of the vast majority of people who do it.


1.) No, it was not fact, stop lying right now. (You're saying its fact when its not, so you're being a liar right now, I'm going to have to ask you to stop spreading shit information please.)
2.) No, only idiots troll in "this community". Sure, trolling is fun, but you don't do that shit here.
3.) No its not accepted, only idiots/childish minds accept it.


Allow me to clarify. I still stand by what i stated.

As someone has already posted the controversy Katu was speaking of is in Dragon Liquipedia profie, under controversy.

These are not lies, they are facts that have been posted on Liquipedia, im assuming they have their facts straight. If not, I apologize, and im guessing so does TL. I am not trying to insinuate anything or spread any type of rumors or lies, I simply want the facts to be presented correctly.

Show nested quote +
After speaking with TheStC and members of WeRRa, Dragon publicly apologized to TheStC, members of oGs and WeRRa. After Dragon was accused of maphacking, streamcheating and match fixing on PlayXP-forums[9], he then replied that "he was sorry for what he had done" but didn't go into detail which parts of the allegations were true. Furthermore he stated that he would “never dream of other tournaments, televised matches, or pursue a career as a pro-gamer.”[10]


I agree only idiots in the community troll.

I disagree that it is not accepted. I agree that only those minds accept it.


Do you even know what the caster was saying? He went well beyond the "facts" stated on Liquipedia. Not to mention the Liquipedia excerpt on the "Controversy" is pretty vague and is obviously missing many of the finer details. Stop lying, you're just inciting more argument. The fact is, casters are there to cast games, not give their opinions on player's integrity. There's no reason to believe Katu fully knows Dragon's situation and he should stick to casting what he sees on his screen. End of story.
ASLRightNow
Profile Joined August 2011
United States45 Posts
February 29 2012 19:35 GMT
#880
Katu has always been fairly full of himself in casts and it has gotten quite irritating. I think the tone of voice he uses when addressing the chat can be condescending. I had already stopped watching playhem dailies that he casted. I enjoy playhem too much to stop all together, but after this i will continue to refrain from watching Katu.

I do believe in redemption, but for me it is a behavior that has been gradually getting worse, and it is not enjoyable.
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