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Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
February 27 2012 23:10 GMT
#221
idra placed with terrans, hope he has a good showing (taking games off them atleast)
The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.
LoB
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom32 Posts
February 27 2012 23:10 GMT
#222
On February 28 2012 07:38 synaptik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 07:31 LoB wrote:
Nice marketing ploy, the might of a parent organization propping up the fallacy that IPL is profitable. Fact is not all organizations have the advertising connections, sponsors or marketting division IGN has.

The comparisons to MLG make me giggle. Love to live in the delusional world some of you live in.



whats your point? if they can offer a superior product at a better value, who cares if they aren't an independent company? as part of IGN they can spread their costs and achieve economies of scale. this is how competition works - deeper pocketed organizations make the entire industry stay on their toes and benefits the consumers.

i also bet at $5 IPL will bring in more revenue than MLG's $20 ppv weekend because the overall number of buyers will be much more than 4x winter arena. simple supply and demand.

welcome to the real world.


You clearly didn't understand my point. I was clearly stating that comparisons between MLG and IPL/IGN are laughable because their income and expenditure of the two are completely different and one is propped up by a larger parent company. There is an economical reason why one is more expensive than the other, you failed to grasp that.

Throwing in made up stats to justify your arguement is a tell-tale sign of clutching at straws. Also "supply and demand" you should look up what that means because esports is not at that point yet with a ppv model.

"Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names."
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
February 27 2012 23:10 GMT
#223
On February 28 2012 07:25 TheTurk wrote:
SO MANY KOREANS. ''O.O


If i saw any less i would be disappointed personally.
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2969 Posts
February 27 2012 23:14 GMT
#224
This is how it should be done. I actually may cough up the more than fair $5 for IPL4. Can't wait for it.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
February 27 2012 23:14 GMT
#225
I'll subscribe and holy crap at those groups
VATO_Gandair
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States232 Posts
February 27 2012 23:15 GMT
#226
IdrA vs korean terrans, those are gonna be awesome matches. Depending on who else is in that group I think IdrA's got it. His ZvT is great.
I like the purple bags of skittles.
InsidiA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1169 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 23:15:27
February 27 2012 23:15 GMT
#227
LOL IdrA and his bad luck with groups
atleast no toss :p
GraphicsInsidiA | StarCraft 2 Manager for Team eLevate | Graphic Designer for Red Bull eSports & HTC | @iamjasonpun
Doses
Profile Joined September 2010
United States61 Posts
February 27 2012 23:16 GMT
#228
iill be happy to pay this $5 and i dont ever watch above 480

happy to support - love the value
you're using up our ranged too space
Thurken
Profile Joined September 2011
961 Posts
February 27 2012 23:16 GMT
#229
On February 28 2012 08:10 LoB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 07:38 synaptik wrote:
On February 28 2012 07:31 LoB wrote:
Nice marketing ploy, the might of a parent organization propping up the fallacy that IPL is profitable. Fact is not all organizations have the advertising connections, sponsors or marketting division IGN has.

The comparisons to MLG make me giggle. Love to live in the delusional world some of you live in.



whats your point? if they can offer a superior product at a better value, who cares if they aren't an independent company? as part of IGN they can spread their costs and achieve economies of scale. this is how competition works - deeper pocketed organizations make the entire industry stay on their toes and benefits the consumers.

i also bet at $5 IPL will bring in more revenue than MLG's $20 ppv weekend because the overall number of buyers will be much more than 4x winter arena. simple supply and demand.

welcome to the real world.


You clearly didn't understand my point. I was clearly stating that comparisons between MLG and IPL/IGN are laughable because their income and expenditure of the two are completely different and one is propped up by a larger parent company. There is an economical reason why one is more expensive than the other, you failed to grasp that.

Throwing in made up stats to justify your arguement is a tell-tale sign of clutching at straws. Also "supply and demand" you should look up what that means because esports is not at that point yet with a ppv model.




But in the end they both want to make money, so if IPL can do that with charging 5$ a month, i'd understand that MLG could charge 50% higher but not 400% higher for just a weekend of content instead of a whole month.
dezi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1536 Posts
February 27 2012 23:16 GMT
#230
Woah, sick groups already Oo
TPW Member | My Maps @ TL: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=171486 | Search 'dezi' at EU
ShAdZ_ZX
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia635 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 23:21:20
February 27 2012 23:18 GMT
#231
To be honest I think $5 is too cheap. It probably sounds silly complaining about the IPL giving us a good deal, but I don't like that this sets the bar so low for future tournaments.

IPL can afford to provide such a low price point because IGN is obviously very financially stable. They can afford to to put money into the IPL and not necessarily make much of a profit now because they realize there will be profit in the future.

$5 for a month of content is such a great deal for fans that I'm worried people will consider this price point standard. The fact that everyone is already comparing to MLG and saying how much better a deal it is a bad sign IMO. I'm not defending MLG or anything, they definitely did some things poorly. But there is nothing wrong with taking steps towards making Starcraft 2 a profitable industry. They just tried to take too big a step.
Toshirotl
Profile Joined January 2012
Portugal128 Posts
February 27 2012 23:18 GMT
#232
IPL does not disappoint, amazing as always
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 23:21:00
February 27 2012 23:18 GMT
#233
Depending on who will cast (besides the standard IPL guys) I'll certainly pay, I just payed 20 for mlg, 5 for IPL seems only fair.
Also good to see that most of the preseeded players this time around are koreans, hope we get some more top notch foreigners/koreans to fill those remaining spot, should be good games.

At people playing the price game: If MLG had IGN behind them they'd only charge 5 bucks too....
Also I doubt IPL will pay all player flights and hotels.
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
February 27 2012 23:19 GMT
#234
Well I went ahead and got 2 VIP passes for this and I'm a Ferengi. One for my bro one for me. Hope I meet MC!

Love everything about IPL professionalism, casters, weekly events, business model.
MC for president
iamcup
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland58 Posts
February 27 2012 23:19 GMT
#235
Sounds awesome, MLG could take a page out of ipls playbook. I will get the premium for sure.
Black17
Profile Joined October 2011
France435 Posts
February 27 2012 23:20 GMT
#236
Not sure my connection can handle 1080p but definitely gonna buy the pass to support you guys for making such wonderful tournaments <3
LoB
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom32 Posts
February 27 2012 23:21 GMT
#237
On February 28 2012 08:16 Thurken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 08:10 LoB wrote:
On February 28 2012 07:38 synaptik wrote:
On February 28 2012 07:31 LoB wrote:
Nice marketing ploy, the might of a parent organization propping up the fallacy that IPL is profitable. Fact is not all organizations have the advertising connections, sponsors or marketting division IGN has.

The comparisons to MLG make me giggle. Love to live in the delusional world some of you live in.



whats your point? if they can offer a superior product at a better value, who cares if they aren't an independent company? as part of IGN they can spread their costs and achieve economies of scale. this is how competition works - deeper pocketed organizations make the entire industry stay on their toes and benefits the consumers.

i also bet at $5 IPL will bring in more revenue than MLG's $20 ppv weekend because the overall number of buyers will be much more than 4x winter arena. simple supply and demand.

welcome to the real world.


You clearly didn't understand my point. I was clearly stating that comparisons between MLG and IPL/IGN are laughable because their income and expenditure of the two are completely different and one is propped up by a larger parent company. There is an economical reason why one is more expensive than the other, you failed to grasp that.

Throwing in made up stats to justify your arguement is a tell-tale sign of clutching at straws. Also "supply and demand" you should look up what that means because esports is not at that point yet with a ppv model.




But in the end they both want to make money, so if IPL can do that with charging 5$ a month, i'd understand that MLG could charge 50% higher but not 400% higher for just a weekend of content instead of a whole month.


You don't know the cost of the event or have the data to justify any price it was the first ppv event in this media type, MLG came before IPL announced their price. It is like saying that a local bakery should "take notes" from the supermarket cost of bread it doesn't make any economic sense.
"Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names."
Premier
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States503 Posts
February 27 2012 23:22 GMT
#238
Oh my god.... 4 groups of death... this is going to be insane
Picture Me Rollin' - DJ Premier, Titan of the Tables
Meaph
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany53 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 23:24:45
February 27 2012 23:22 GMT
#239
On February 28 2012 08:16 Thurken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 08:10 LoB wrote:
On February 28 2012 07:38 synaptik wrote:
On February 28 2012 07:31 LoB wrote:
Nice marketing ploy, the might of a parent organization propping up the fallacy that IPL is profitable. Fact is not all organizations have the advertising connections, sponsors or marketting division IGN has.

The comparisons to MLG make me giggle. Love to live in the delusional world some of you live in.



whats your point? if they can offer a superior product at a better value, who cares if they aren't an independent company? as part of IGN they can spread their costs and achieve economies of scale. this is how competition works - deeper pocketed organizations make the entire industry stay on their toes and benefits the consumers.

i also bet at $5 IPL will bring in more revenue than MLG's $20 ppv weekend because the overall number of buyers will be much more than 4x winter arena. simple supply and demand.

welcome to the real world.


You clearly didn't understand my point. I was clearly stating that comparisons between MLG and IPL/IGN are laughable because their income and expenditure of the two are completely different and one is propped up by a larger parent company. There is an economical reason why one is more expensive than the other, you failed to grasp that.

Throwing in made up stats to justify your arguement is a tell-tale sign of clutching at straws. Also "supply and demand" you should look up what that means because esports is not at that point yet with a ppv model.




But in the end they both want to make money, so if IPL can do that with charging 5$ a month, i'd understand that MLG could charge 50% higher but not 400% higher for just a weekend of content instead of a whole month.




+ With a big part of the viewer beeing students and/or pupils without anybig of an income - but never the less with the will to support their favorite computer game - guess what brings more money: 25 000 x$5 or 2500 x $20?


€: + You normally get bunch more money out of sponsors by simply having more people watching the stream, which makes up for higher income though adds -> free stream = more viewer in that simple case.
ZBusterZ
Profile Joined October 2009
Peru49 Posts
February 27 2012 23:26 GMT
#240
Stephano and White-.Ra :D Waiting for Nani , Huk , Ret , Happy , Thorzain... unless two please. Without them, the foreings are lost..
"the pain is tenmporary-the victory is forever"
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