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BlindSight754
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada156 Posts
February 27 2012 14:13 GMT
#781
I am honestly shocked at the number of people who STOLE from MLG. I dont care if you "didn't agree with the price" or "thought it should be free". MLG used their own money and resources to put together a product and set a price point. YOU then get to decide whether you will accept that price point and watch or not and dont watch. If you used a workaround to watch this weekend you have straight up stolen from MLG like you steal from anywhere else and that disgusts me.
tapk69
Profile Joined January 2011
Portugal264 Posts
February 27 2012 14:14 GMT
#782
well , i understand they dont want to be like GSL free live 360p and pay live HQ and vods because many people would not pay , bu MLG needs to understand that not everyone has money to throw around in this economy ..

I always watched the GSL for free , but this year i got a yearly pass to support them ! my opinion is that MLG is doing the wrong thing because they should offer free stream at least 360p , them add HQ for paying subscribers and add an year pass with some discount. MLG got 200k+ viewers in providence , that was something to remember , they should try to go to 300k+ viewers not making it PPV and drop to 5 or 25k...

More viewers = more possible buyers/supporters , for me thats supporting the scene because it brings new viewers/players/interest ! MLG does the best tourneys with the best casters and i even think its more popular than GSL , at least on USA , so dont be greedy , start slow then expand !

I just hope regular MLG will still be avaible for free on low quality because they were doing the right thing and still are , they tried something new but remember if i have a chicken that gives me 1 egg everyday and i kill it to have a nice meal , the next day there will be no eggs there and i would have to start over
ja foste
Gackt_
Profile Joined March 2010
335 Posts
February 27 2012 14:15 GMT
#783
Didnt pay for it, I did watch it, 5-7 dollars is what the content was worth for me.
Vinland
Profile Joined April 2011
Argentina136 Posts
February 27 2012 14:15 GMT
#784
On February 27 2012 22:58 Dhalphir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 10:30 EffeCt wrote:
I refuse to pay for something that should be free. Therefore, I didn't watch it regardless of whether or not I could have worked around and scammed. I chose not to, because I choose not to support the "buy Sundance a yacht" charity.


i dont really see why it "should" be free? this shit costs a lot of money to run and advertising revenue doesn't cut it.

Is it really like that? Cause I totally dont mind having a non-HD, full of adds stream.

Also they could change some stuff to make it more accesible/viable. 10$ tops for a weekend content seems right, or 5$ for quarterfinals/semifinals/finals only, which is only what most people end up watching.
tianGO
Profile Joined August 2010
Argentina591 Posts
February 27 2012 14:18 GMT
#785
On February 27 2012 23:13 BlindSight754 wrote:
I am honestly shocked at the number of people who STOLE from MLG. I dont care if you "didn't agree with the price" or "thought it should be free". MLG used their own money and resources to put together a product and set a price point. YOU then get to decide whether you will accept that price point and watch or not and dont watch. If you used a workaround to watch this weekend you have straight up stolen from MLG like you steal from anywhere else and that disgusts me.


I'm surprised you are shocked. People steal ANYTHING from the internet, even Starcraft.
"He who controls the present, controls the past. He who controls the past, controls the future."
Merlimoo
Profile Joined January 2011
France192 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 14:20:33
February 27 2012 14:18 GMT
#786
On February 27 2012 23:13 BlindSight754 wrote:
I am honestly shocked at the number of people who STOLE from MLG. I dont care if you "didn't agree with the price" or "thought it should be free". MLG used their own money and resources to put together a product and set a price point. YOU then get to decide whether you will accept that price point and watch or not and dont watch. If you used a workaround to watch this weekend you have straight up stolen from MLG like you steal from anywhere else and that disgusts me.


They provide (or have provided at least) the same thing for free. It is stealing just because they decide to put a price on it ?
Anyway, you would vote for SOPA, don't you ?
Day[9] made me do it.
KingOfAmerica
Profile Joined April 2011
United States246 Posts
February 27 2012 14:18 GMT
#787
I paid my $20 and fully enjoyed the product. I thought the player was awesome. I did have to log in a couple of times more then I liked, I hope they iron it out.

But all in all hooked up the laptop to the bigscreen, and was watching in 1080, sometimes on a dual or triple game format with the various display options. Good times
The nukes gonna land on his aarrrrmmmmyyy AHHHHH
BlindSight754
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada156 Posts
February 27 2012 14:21 GMT
#788
On February 27 2012 23:18 Merlimoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 23:13 BlindSight754 wrote:
I am honestly shocked at the number of people who STOLE from MLG. I dont care if you "didn't agree with the price" or "thought it should be free". MLG used their own money and resources to put together a product and set a price point. YOU then get to decide whether you will accept that price point and watch or not and dont watch. If you used a workaround to watch this weekend you have straight up stolen from MLG like you steal from anywhere else and that disgusts me.


You would vote for SOPA, don't you ?


What? How does that have to do what I said? I'm saying there was a product that was set at $20 and people stole it. That doesnt mean I would support SOPA it means I'm against blatant stealing. Stupid argument is stupid.
BlindSight754
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada156 Posts
February 27 2012 14:22 GMT
#789
On February 27 2012 23:18 Merlimoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 23:13 BlindSight754 wrote:
I am honestly shocked at the number of people who STOLE from MLG. I dont care if you "didn't agree with the price" or "thought it should be free". MLG used their own money and resources to put together a product and set a price point. YOU then get to decide whether you will accept that price point and watch or not and dont watch. If you used a workaround to watch this weekend you have straight up stolen from MLG like you steal from anywhere else and that disgusts me.


They provide (or have provided at least) the same thing for free. It is stealing just because they decide to put a price on it ?
Anyway, you would vote for SOPA, don't you ?


So what if they've provided the same in the past for free. This time has a paywall and you should respect that. Yes it is stealing because they put a price on their product and people didn't pay it to receive the product.
Googity
Profile Joined January 2011
United States127 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 14:25:52
February 27 2012 14:24 GMT
#790
On February 27 2012 22:36 Avicularia wrote:
All of you that paid, and wanted to support e-sport - failed. E-sport won't make more popular, if one will have to pay to watch the stream. There are better ways to earn money than from those e-tickets. Supporting e-sport = watching it, and making more fans.
Actually in my opinion, HQ stream, or no advertisements for 5-10$ would be faaaaaaaaaaar better than that one. And trust me, they have so much money for sure not from those few tickets.


You don't know how business works do you? The streams last year were HEAVILY subsidized by venture capital. That's probably the only reason why we get free streams. Giving away a product is never a good way to do business. Internet advertisments do NOT bring in enough money to cover the expenses of throwing a tournament, I can almost garauntee that. If e-sports is going to grow and be sustainable (key word here), we will have to pay for it. Yes, paying for a HQ stream with no ads helps, but as is the case with most anything, the cheap asses prevail.

Edit: Also, this whole "they provided this for free in the past" sense of entitlement needs to get thrown out the window.
Silver777
Profile Joined March 2010
United States347 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 14:30:45
February 27 2012 14:29 GMT
#791
I paid and watched all weekend, but boy did MLG bungle this up with the cookies and w/e else allowed for free watching from their site(not talking about re-streams). I am fairly certain me and a large portion of buyers from this weekend will be waiting(no matter the cost, but I am willing to pay like $10 for what I saw this weekend again) to see if its possible to watch it easily like that again and if it is...they will lose SOOO many paid viewers for their next arenas. I wish I had waited now, cause knowing I paid 20 for something a ton of people saw for free is really disheartening.
Merlimoo
Profile Joined January 2011
France192 Posts
February 27 2012 14:29 GMT
#792
On February 27 2012 23:21 BlindSight754 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 23:18 Merlimoo wrote:
On February 27 2012 23:13 BlindSight754 wrote:
I am honestly shocked at the number of people who STOLE from MLG. I dont care if you "didn't agree with the price" or "thought it should be free". MLG used their own money and resources to put together a product and set a price point. YOU then get to decide whether you will accept that price point and watch or not and dont watch. If you used a workaround to watch this weekend you have straight up stolen from MLG like you steal from anywhere else and that disgusts me.


You would vote for SOPA, don't you ?


What? How does that have to do what I said? I'm saying there was a product that was set at $20 and people stole it. That doesnt mean I would support SOPA it means I'm against blatant stealing. Stupid argument is stupid.


Can't argue with that.
I just though SOPA was designed to help fight this kind of copyright stealing. It would be far more effective that a post on a forum. My bad.
Day[9] made me do it.
karpo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1998 Posts
February 27 2012 14:32 GMT
#793
On February 27 2012 23:13 BlindSight754 wrote:
I am honestly shocked at the number of people who STOLE from MLG. I dont care if you "didn't agree with the price" or "thought it should be free". MLG used their own money and resources to put together a product and set a price point. YOU then get to decide whether you will accept that price point and watch or not and dont watch. If you used a workaround to watch this weekend you have straight up stolen from MLG like you steal from anywhere else and that disgusts me.


I am honestly chocked by the amount of stupid people that can't tell stealing and copyright infringement apart.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
February 27 2012 14:33 GMT
#794
I'm disgusted by all the entitled freeloaders who paid for the event but because it was laggy ended up overloading people's private restreams. You are molesting esports in its youth!
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
nethers
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden11 Posts
February 27 2012 14:34 GMT
#795
20$ is too much money for me to spend on this and I watch other streams for free and just saw the stream and I just clicked on the stream and it worked, I do not use any 'cookie/privacy mode' work-around, it just worked.
I actually didn't watch so much since it lagged alot (even having it for free), so paying for this would not be worth it, and if I had payed for it, I would have been angry for the lag but also how easy it was to watch for free.
I am curious to know if its worth it losing viewers (commerical income, regular TV manage) compared to have some ppl pay and watch it? Will e-sport grow so they can keep its pricepool, but less viewers, or lower pricepool, have it for free and get more viewers? If they players doesn't come to certain events 'cuse price pools ain't that great, the events will eventually die out, and everyone will lose.. It is a complicated matter..

My last words will be: Congratulations to MKP for winning! Go Terran!
Learning from mistakes are good, preferably if someone else does them.
BlindSight754
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada156 Posts
February 27 2012 14:34 GMT
#796
On February 27 2012 23:29 Merlimoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 23:21 BlindSight754 wrote:
On February 27 2012 23:18 Merlimoo wrote:
On February 27 2012 23:13 BlindSight754 wrote:
I am honestly shocked at the number of people who STOLE from MLG. I dont care if you "didn't agree with the price" or "thought it should be free". MLG used their own money and resources to put together a product and set a price point. YOU then get to decide whether you will accept that price point and watch or not and dont watch. If you used a workaround to watch this weekend you have straight up stolen from MLG like you steal from anywhere else and that disgusts me.


You would vote for SOPA, don't you ?


What? How does that have to do what I said? I'm saying there was a product that was set at $20 and people stole it. That doesnt mean I would support SOPA it means I'm against blatant stealing. Stupid argument is stupid.


Can't argue with that.
I just though SOPA was designed to help fight this kind of copyright stealing. It would be far more effective that a post on a forum. My bad.


SOPA wasn't all bad. It however stepped over the bounds on many issues which is why it was so vehemently opposed. Just because people didn't want SOPA doesnt mean they're not against stopping internet piracy.
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
February 27 2012 14:34 GMT
#797
I must've spent 8 times the amount of money at a barcraft than subscribing lol
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Delial
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland217 Posts
February 27 2012 14:34 GMT
#798
Sorry, I didn't know there is work-around, just watched it for free, ok I was aware that something is wrong and I should pay for it.

I should close browser and say to myself, this is wrong, I can't watch this, I didn't pay for this?

Lawful Good Paladin Level 60? Get real:D
saksy2
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway520 Posts
February 27 2012 14:35 GMT
#799
On February 27 2012 23:33 figq wrote:
I'm disgusted by all the entitled freeloaders who paid for the event but because it was laggy ended up overloading people's private restreams. You are molesting esports in its youth!

How exactly does a restream "overload" the entire thing?
BlindSight754
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada156 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 14:39:22
February 27 2012 14:35 GMT
#800
On February 27 2012 23:32 karpo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 23:13 BlindSight754 wrote:
I am honestly shocked at the number of people who STOLE from MLG. I dont care if you "didn't agree with the price" or "thought it should be free". MLG used their own money and resources to put together a product and set a price point. YOU then get to decide whether you will accept that price point and watch or not and dont watch. If you used a workaround to watch this weekend you have straight up stolen from MLG like you steal from anywhere else and that disgusts me.


I am honestly chocked by the amount of stupid people that can't tell stealing and copyright infringement apart.


So "stealing" cable isnt stealing? Because thats basically what people did to watch the MLG winter arena with workarounds.
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