On February 27 2012 12:19 Pandain wrote:
You don't value MLG more than a pizza? Lol?
You don't value MLG more than a pizza? Lol?
WTF? you value mlg more than a pizza? whats wrong with you haha.
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foxSC
United States60 Posts
On February 27 2012 12:19 Pandain wrote: Show nested quote + On February 27 2012 12:14 esotericc wrote: On February 27 2012 12:11 PhsX wrote: Paid the $15 because I could watch every minute (hooray post exam weekends). I'm a college student with no job... That's two drinks, one nice meal out, or two fast food meals. Easy to make the sacrifice and watch. High production quality, but I can't justify spending more than $10 on the same thing again -- need a studio audience IMO. I think a lot of people can afford it, I just spent 20$ on a pizza, I just didn't feel MLG deserved 20$ from me and I didn't support their pay model and that is my opinion. I wasn't planning on watching until MLG gave it to me for free anyway *shrug* You don't value MLG more than a pizza? Lol? WTF? you value mlg more than a pizza? whats wrong with you haha. | ||
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On February 27 2012 12:14 Haydin wrote: It amazes me that people actually feel entitled to content they did not pay for. It amazes me that people actually think that this is the actual issue being discussed. | ||
esotericc
449 Posts
On February 27 2012 12:19 Pandain wrote: Show nested quote + On February 27 2012 12:14 esotericc wrote: On February 27 2012 12:11 PhsX wrote: Paid the $15 because I could watch every minute (hooray post exam weekends). I'm a college student with no job... That's two drinks, one nice meal out, or two fast food meals. Easy to make the sacrifice and watch. High production quality, but I can't justify spending more than $10 on the same thing again -- need a studio audience IMO. I think a lot of people can afford it, I just spent 20$ on a pizza, I just didn't feel MLG deserved 20$ from me and I didn't support their pay model and that is my opinion. I wasn't planning on watching until MLG gave it to me for free anyway *shrug* You don't value MLG more than a pizza? Lol? In my personal opinion I'm saddened at the poll revealing the amount of people who watched restreams. If your not gonna pay for it, then you should accept the fact you shouldn't watch it. Just cheating MLG out of their money, its just, its just.... I would have paid the 20$ gladly if they offered a 360p free stream. They didn't so I didn't pay out of principle. | ||
bovineblitz
United States314 Posts
On February 27 2012 10:28 KalWarkov wrote: so many ppl killing e-sport. wonder how much they spend on alcohol during that time - maybe more then 20 bucks? either pay or dont watch, everything else is unacceptable. but mlg also has to do sth against that "privacy mode" free watching - i payed 20 bucks, it was a great event and worth every cent, and still i hate that i couldve watched it without paying anything just as well. We got alcohol at a fair price, not SC2 pro games at an inflated price. | ||
Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On February 27 2012 12:17 MasterKush wrote: Show nested quote + On February 27 2012 12:07 Forikorder wrote: On February 27 2012 12:02 MasterKush wrote: Nobody is addressing the bigger issue in this thread... eSports isn't ready to be monetized in the form of PPV. Instead we have a flame war with people who have disposable income versus those who don't. What is the point in discussing wether someone is a pirate or not? You could change the title of this thread to "How did you watch [Insert Film Name]?" and you'd get exactly the same debate going on. how do you know? wheres your data? where your experiments? wheres your evidence? wheres your PROOF? you have no proof, the only evidence we have is winter arena which was aparently a big hit, big enough of a hit that sundance thought "hmm with a bit of tweaking this could work" so obviously we ARE ready for some tournaments to be PPV, will the next tourny be 20$? probably not, will the paywall be so easily bypassed? certainly not First off, I said eSports and not just MLG. Perhaps MLG is ready to be monetized in this way, who knows? Nobody on this forum does, that's for sure... Sundance was never going to announce the thing was a failure immediately afterwards. Anyway, my point is that more than half of the people in this thread are claiming they watched it for free and had no intention of ever paying, and there's a significant percentage of people who voted the same way in the poll... that is not good, in any way shape or form. Please don't try and convince me that all of these people will suddenly start paying in the future (likelyhood is, they never will). Do you honestly see it changing for the better if the other big organisations decide to adopt this model? It'll just be more and more piracy. I don't have any facts, statistics, figures because I honestly don't care if you choose to ignore the angle that I'm approaching this from. you make no sense MLG is part of E-Sports and is one of the BIGGEST names in E-Sports if there ready to be monetized E-Sports is ready to be monetized and while Sundance wouldnt have popped up on stream and announcing it was a failure, him popping up wasnt in the schedule, if it was a complete failure they would have silently buried it, if it was a moderate success they would have made an announcement sometime in the future and only committed to one event Sundance came on stream during the final day and confirmed TWO more events, if it was anything short of a great success he would have maybe announced one more event | ||
foxSC
United States60 Posts
On February 27 2012 12:20 bovineblitz wrote: Show nested quote + On February 27 2012 10:28 KalWarkov wrote: so many ppl killing e-sport. wonder how much they spend on alcohol during that time - maybe more then 20 bucks? either pay or dont watch, everything else is unacceptable. but mlg also has to do sth against that "privacy mode" free watching - i payed 20 bucks, it was a great event and worth every cent, and still i hate that i couldve watched it without paying anything just as well. We got alcohol at a fair price, not SC2 pro games at an inflated price. Truth right there. Everyone being high and mighty in this thread is just angry they got ripped off 20$ for what was, and should be, free. | ||
emc
United States3088 Posts
On February 27 2012 12:19 Pandain wrote: Show nested quote + On February 27 2012 12:14 esotericc wrote: On February 27 2012 12:11 PhsX wrote: Paid the $15 because I could watch every minute (hooray post exam weekends). I'm a college student with no job... That's two drinks, one nice meal out, or two fast food meals. Easy to make the sacrifice and watch. High production quality, but I can't justify spending more than $10 on the same thing again -- need a studio audience IMO. I think a lot of people can afford it, I just spent 20$ on a pizza, I just didn't feel MLG deserved 20$ from me and I didn't support their pay model and that is my opinion. I wasn't planning on watching until MLG gave it to me for free anyway *shrug* You don't value MLG more than a pizza? Lol? In my personal opinion I'm saddened at the poll revealing the amount of people who watched restreams. If your not gonna pay for it, then you should accept the fact you shouldn't watch it. Just cheating MLG out of their money, its just, its just.... On February 27 2012 12:18 KDrake wrote: Didn't pay, I went to two Barcrafts, one on each day. Then I guess this guy was stealing ^? Most people need to realize that esports target audience are 18-25 year olds who are in college. If you were a BW fan since back in the day you are probably out of college and have a steady job by now, good for you. But SC2 has brought in a lot of new spectator blood and guess what they are doing with their lives? going to school. | ||
Snuggles
United States1865 Posts
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Carras
Argentina860 Posts
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MajorityofOne
Canada2506 Posts
On February 27 2012 12:20 bovineblitz wrote: Show nested quote + On February 27 2012 10:28 KalWarkov wrote: so many ppl killing e-sport. wonder how much they spend on alcohol during that time - maybe more then 20 bucks? either pay or dont watch, everything else is unacceptable. but mlg also has to do sth against that "privacy mode" free watching - i payed 20 bucks, it was a great event and worth every cent, and still i hate that i couldve watched it without paying anything just as well. We got alcohol at a fair price, not SC2 pro games at an inflated price. I commend you on winning this thread | ||
how2TL
1197 Posts
On February 27 2012 12:15 Grimmyman123 wrote: My bro and I shared a paid account to watch. It wasn't bad, and worth $10 for each of us, but not $20 for a sole viewer. And by paying, no, you are not supporting esports. You ARE supporting MLG, and your ARE supporting better paychecks for the MLG team and its staff. You are however, NOT supporting esports or SC2 growth. Why would SC2 grow if there was no money incoming. | ||
windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
On February 27 2012 12:20 foxSC wrote: Show nested quote + On February 27 2012 12:19 Pandain wrote: On February 27 2012 12:14 esotericc wrote: On February 27 2012 12:11 PhsX wrote: Paid the $15 because I could watch every minute (hooray post exam weekends). I'm a college student with no job... That's two drinks, one nice meal out, or two fast food meals. Easy to make the sacrifice and watch. High production quality, but I can't justify spending more than $10 on the same thing again -- need a studio audience IMO. I think a lot of people can afford it, I just spent 20$ on a pizza, I just didn't feel MLG deserved 20$ from me and I didn't support their pay model and that is my opinion. I wasn't planning on watching until MLG gave it to me for free anyway *shrug* You don't value MLG more than a pizza? Lol? WTF? you value mlg more than a pizza? whats wrong with you haha. Dunno man, between food and videogaming content I can see why somebody would choose food 0_o But know who the real winner here is? Me, I watched MLG while eating ...Pizza | ||
TheSir
1830 Posts
On February 27 2012 12:14 Tula wrote: Show nested quote + On February 27 2012 12:11 esotericc wrote: Wether i need to spend them or not also really doesn't matter, because unlike the majority of this thread i seem to be a law abiding person. I buy my music, i buy my PC games and hell yes if i want to watch MLG i buy my Gold ticket or PPV ticket. You should be very thankfull people like me still exist because otherwise you would not be listening to music or playing video games much longer (in fact the piracy bubble around 2005 killed quite a few major developers if you can remember that far back). Downloading copyrighted content isn't illegal in Canada as long as I don't resell, so I to, am a law abiding citizen. You might want to consult your lawyer on that point. It might not be feaseble to sue every single one who downloads content, but it almost certainly is illegal. If you can cite a source on that statement I'll accept that correction for Canadian law (since i honestly have no proof either having never studied it), but I'll also point out that MLG is an US based firm therefor you would fall under US copyright law not Canada. That could be the case, i dont know anything about the Canadian laws neither but there a lot of country's in Europe for example where downloading for personal use is tolerated/legit. Most times movies/music and books are allowed, games/software is almost illegal everywhere as far as i know. And US copyright law applies to others countries, but they the retailer also have to apply to the laws of the country they sell it in. For example, Universal (US company) can never sue me for downloading a movie when i use it for personal use cause thats allowed by law in my country. | ||
bovineblitz
United States314 Posts
On February 27 2012 12:19 Pandain wrote: Show nested quote + On February 27 2012 12:14 esotericc wrote: On February 27 2012 12:11 PhsX wrote: Paid the $15 because I could watch every minute (hooray post exam weekends). I'm a college student with no job... That's two drinks, one nice meal out, or two fast food meals. Easy to make the sacrifice and watch. High production quality, but I can't justify spending more than $10 on the same thing again -- need a studio audience IMO. I think a lot of people can afford it, I just spent 20$ on a pizza, I just didn't feel MLG deserved 20$ from me and I didn't support their pay model and that is my opinion. I wasn't planning on watching until MLG gave it to me for free anyway *shrug* You don't value MLG more than a pizza? Lol? In my personal opinion I'm saddened at the poll revealing the amount of people who watched restreams. If your not gonna pay for it, then you should accept the fact you shouldn't watch it. Just cheating MLG out of their money, its just, its just.... If they weren't going to pay for it no matter but were willing to take advantage of free (but illegal) options, is that still cheating MLG out of money? | ||
emc
United States3088 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On February 27 2012 12:25 emc wrote: Also, are people who gather to watch UFC and chip in $50 all thieves? Why shouldn't they all pay $50 individually? Because it's impossible to regulate. just becuase its impossible to relegate doesnt mean its something taht should be done | ||
BoxingKangaroo
Japan955 Posts
I'd love MLG to introduce daily passes if possible. Say $7.50 per day, so you get a discount for paying the whole $20 if you want to watch the whole weekend, but for those that are busy one or more days, we still have an option to watch. Fairly disappointed at sections of the community gloating about getting the stream for free. It's the same old tired justifications for pirating from people who've probably never had to work a hard days work in their life. Once they grow up and get into the real world they'll change their tune. My only fear that the average age of the community will stay in the teens and thus the community as a whole will never grow up and we'll have crap like this constantly. | ||
farside604
Canada127 Posts
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Marou
Germany1371 Posts
Was a nice event, like every MLG event to be honest, the $20 pricing is just to dam high + Show Spoiler + ![]() Edit : About the piracy stuff. I think it's a good thing, without it i wouldn't have been able to watch it, like many other fans. The sole fact that the stream was illegally restreamed and that people quickly find workarounds the paywalls shows how badly people want the stuff. This is internet and there is no way stopping that shit from happening, if you don't want it to destroy you business, make it right (i.e. change the price and add more offers like daily passes) | ||
nGBeast
United States914 Posts
On February 27 2012 12:21 foxSC wrote: Show nested quote + On February 27 2012 12:20 bovineblitz wrote: On February 27 2012 10:28 KalWarkov wrote: so many ppl killing e-sport. wonder how much they spend on alcohol during that time - maybe more then 20 bucks? either pay or dont watch, everything else is unacceptable. but mlg also has to do sth against that "privacy mode" free watching - i payed 20 bucks, it was a great event and worth every cent, and still i hate that i couldve watched it without paying anything just as well. We got alcohol at a fair price, not SC2 pro games at an inflated price. Truth right there. Everyone being high and mighty in this thread is just angry they got ripped off 20$ for what was, and should be, free. No, I'm glad I paid $20. I'm not a whiny teenager who think's all content should be free, nor do I think everyone is entitled to a free stream. If you guys want this to actually work, (esports) steps like this need to be taken. I for one commend Sundance for going through with this and not backing down to the pitchforks and sticking to their guns, nothing better then a bunch of angry teenagers crying because they actually have to PAY for content because MLG wanted to SEE if they could actually make a return on a investment. But god forbid you people would actually know MORE about MLG's finical ability amirite? | ||
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