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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On February 27 2012 12:10 Hrrrrm wrote: I wouldn't count those chickens hatched just yet. Noscript/Greasemonkey does amazing things. We'll see when the next one rolls around. i didnt say it would be impervious but im sure we wont have people "accidently" watching it thinking its free | ||
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Graham
Canada1259 Posts
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PhsX
United States12 Posts
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xBillehx
United States1289 Posts
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esotericc
449 Posts
On February 27 2012 12:11 PhsX wrote: Paid the $15 because I could watch every minute (hooray post exam weekends). I'm a college student with no job... That's two drinks, one nice meal out, or two fast food meals. Easy to make the sacrifice and watch. High production quality, but I can't justify spending more than $10 on the same thing again -- need a studio audience IMO. I think a lot of people can afford it, I just spent 20$ on a pizza, I just didn't feel MLG deserved 20$ from me and I didn't support their pay model and that is my opinion. I wasn't planning on watching until MLG gave it to me for free anyway *shrug* | ||
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Tula
Austria1544 Posts
On February 27 2012 12:11 esotericc wrote: Downloading copyrighted content isn't illegal in Canada as long as I don't resell, so I to, am a law abiding citizen. You might want to consult your lawyer on that point. It might not be feaseble to sue every single one who downloads content, but it almost certainly is illegal. If you can cite a source on that statement I'll accept that correction for Canadian law (since i honestly have no proof either having never studied it), but I'll also point out that MLG is an US based firm therefor you would fall under US copyright law not Canada. | ||
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Synapze
Canada563 Posts
Instead of flying players in, make a real venue and get a crowd. Anyone who disagrees go watch Boxer MLG Anaheim when the crowd roared after his 2-1 over TSL rain, and began chanting BOXER BOXER BOXER! He was so emotional and happy, its probably one of the greatest moments of his entire starcraft career. And when he went over to hug jessica? Christ, tears formed in my damn eyes. THAT is ESPORTS. Sports without a crowd are simply not as fun, for the players and the fans. -Forgot to add, I didn't pay for MLG ppv but hold a gold premium and a gsl premium. | ||
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Haydin
United States1481 Posts
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Grimmyman123
Canada939 Posts
It wasn't bad, and worth $10 for each of us, but not $20 for a sole viewer. And by paying, no, you are not supporting esports. You ARE supporting MLG, and your ARE supporting better paychecks for the MLG team and its staff. You are however, NOT supporting esports or SC2 growth. | ||
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
On February 27 2012 12:14 Haydin wrote: It amazes me that people actually feel entitled to content they did not pay for. do you download movies? | ||
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JOJOsc2news
3000 Posts
Am I angry at the people who watched it in incognito/private mode? Not really. When I heard about this I couldn't believe it. I checked it out and was blown away how easy it was. I actually thought they might have made the stream free. What I am trying to say is that one didn't have to actively try to circumvent any paywall. If someone was heading over to the official site with the intention to buy the pass and they just get a free stream right on their screen, I don't blame them for watching. (Even though I think it's not right I do not know if I would have just left the site) However, this is in fact hurting this PPV model. That issue needs to be fixed for the sake of the customers as well as MLG. I am not gonna touch on restreams here... What really does make me sad is how people deal with this situation. The thread seemed to have some potential but it turned into a wild bunch of insults and offensive language that is just shutting down any kind of fruitful debate or exchange of thoughts. That is the sad story of this weekend for me. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On February 27 2012 12:15 Grimmyman123 wrote: My bro and I shared a paid account to watch. It wasn't bad, and worth $10 for each of us, but not $20 for a sole viewer. And by paying, no, you are not supporting esports. You ARE supporting MLG, and your ARE supporting better paychecks for the MLG team and its staff. You are however, NOT supporting esports or SC2 growth. by paying MLG you help them stay afloat if they stay afloat they keep giving huge amazing tournaments the more huge amazing tournaments the more people start watching and playing the more people who watch and paly the more money in the community the more money in the community the bigger tournaments get | ||
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MasterKush
United Kingdom568 Posts
On February 27 2012 12:07 Forikorder wrote: how do you know? wheres your data? where your experiments? wheres your evidence? wheres your PROOF? you have no proof, the only evidence we have is winter arena which was aparently a big hit, big enough of a hit that sundance thought "hmm with a bit of tweaking this could work" so obviously we ARE ready for some tournaments to be PPV, will the next tourny be 20$? probably not, will the paywall be so easily bypassed? certainly not First off, I said eSports and not just MLG. Perhaps MLG is ready to be monetized in this way, who knows? Nobody on this forum does, that's for sure... Sundance was never going to announce the thing was a failure immediately afterwards. Anyway, my point is that more than half of the people in this thread are claiming they watched it for free and had no intention of ever paying, and there's a significant percentage of people who voted the same way in the poll... that is not good, in any way shape or form. Please don't try and convince me that all of these people will suddenly start paying in the future (likelyhood is, they never will). Do you honestly see it changing for the better if the other big organisations decide to adopt this model? It'll just be more and more piracy. I don't have any facts, statistics, figures because I honestly don't care if you choose to ignore the angle that I'm approaching this from. | ||
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liberal
1116 Posts
After watching it for a bit, I was very glad that I didn't pay. Not only because people were getting it for free with no effort, but also because the stream was laggy and inconsistent, there were long delays between games, and many of the games were just bad. There is no way the PPV model is going to work in the long run. There was so much downtime between games, just run more commercials. | ||
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emc
United States3088 Posts
Plus it was upsetting to me that there weren't any real bo5's and basically turned me off to watching. | ||
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Finality
172 Posts
I honestly had no idea that you had to pay for it, I didn't do anything special to watch it or anything, it just worked. Definitely gunna pay for the next mlg-related event just to make up for it I guess. | ||
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KDrake
Canada66 Posts
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On February 27 2012 12:14 esotericc wrote: I think a lot of people can afford it, I just spent 20$ on a pizza, I just didn't feel MLG deserved 20$ from me and I didn't support their pay model and that is my opinion. I wasn't planning on watching until MLG gave it to me for free anyway *shrug* You don't value MLG more than a pizza? Lol? In my personal opinion I'm saddened at the poll revealing the amount of people who watched restreams. If your not gonna pay for it, then you should accept the fact you shouldn't watch it. Just cheating MLG out of their money, its just, its just.... | ||
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esotericc
449 Posts
On February 27 2012 12:14 Tula wrote: You might want to consult your lawyer on that point. It might not be feaseble to sue every single one who downloads content, but it almost certainly is illegal. If you can cite a source on that statement I'll accept that correction for Canadian law (since i honestly have no proof either having never studied it), but I'll also point out that MLG is an US based firm therefor you would fall under US copyright law not Canada. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_sharing_in_Canada They are trying to pass laws to control it but have only stated that uploading is illegal. | ||
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
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