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SwizzY
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1549 Posts
February 27 2012 16:03 GMT
#301
It's like the bad B-movie that keeps using every movie cliche shamelessly, making you wonder if it is even doing it intentionally in the first place...

I wanted to doubt the haters Juan.... WHY YOU DOIN THIS TO ME?!?! D:
All that glitters is not gold, all that wander are not lost, the old that is strong does not wither, deep roots are not reached by frost.
nOondn
Profile Joined March 2011
564 Posts
February 27 2012 16:07 GMT
#302
On February 28 2012 01:00 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 00:48 MCDayC wrote:
On February 27 2012 23:51 Empire.Beastyqt wrote:
His team micro improved a lot in Korea.

hahaha, rofl. Okay, settle the debate:
Kas vs major mechanics?
It's Kas? Right?

Kinda impossible to determine isn't it? Pure APM tells very little, or else Merz would be the best foreigner by far.

I think most people would tell you that Kas is the better player though.


Mechanic is not only APM,but it's including micro,marcro,mouse accuracy,multitasking,screen changing etc.
Mid Master Terran @ kr server fighting !!!
eohs
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States677 Posts
February 27 2012 16:10 GMT
#303
loyalty none in this case tells a lot about a person. Better offer or not x6 to whatever new team has nothing to do with it. Just the fact you jump from team to team I am not saying DONT take better offers because well that would be dumb. Just his passed solutions have been dumb.
WELCOME TO THE PARTY
Enzymatic
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1301 Posts
February 27 2012 16:12 GMT
#304
This guy seems to be constructing himself somewhat of an unfavorable reputation.
"Who hired this awful fountain gunner? He can't hit shit." - Yiss
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 17:13:07
February 27 2012 17:08 GMT
#305
On February 27 2012 16:16 lastshadow wrote:
No, Kas is handicapped compared to Juan, please never say things like that, lol Juan has 200eapm in TvZ/TvP, Kas has 150 (using the Korean apm thing). If you watch Juan IRL you'd see the difference lol.

LOL, kas mechanics/mindset/gameplay is superior to gositerran.

Gositerran and you crying about protoss and Kas beating protoss players left and right.

Also Kas managed to beat "Big guns" in major tournaments like WCG/IEM Kiev, meanwhile gositerran losing some random korean player calling as Tear...

and if you want to talk about apm, merz's apm is 430
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
February 27 2012 17:10 GMT
#306
Didn't see that one coming :o
Lyter
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2145 Posts
February 27 2012 17:11 GMT
#307
I have literally lost count of how many times I've seen one of these threads, big plays princess
TheFlock
Profile Joined September 2011
United States389 Posts
February 27 2012 17:12 GMT
#308
MajOr has always wanted to be in a real Korean team house so he can progress and sharpen his skills. This new deal may be the first time he's had that opportunity. If it does turn out that way, I have no doubt he will stay on the team.

I used to watch his stream all the time and he is a good player, he needs to start making some waves soon though to prove his worth and how good he really is.

Last I heard of him was when he was practicing with the EG guys on stream and DeMusliM was BM-ing him

GL to Juan, would love to see him tearing up an MLG or online tourney with his new deal
Maru | DeMusliM | TLO
paintfive
Profile Joined September 2011
785 Posts
February 27 2012 17:19 GMT
#309
On February 27 2012 19:32 LeLfe wrote:
I just hope it's not IM trying the Fenix experience again, gl to majOr though


Whatever happened to Fenix? Did IM release him?
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
February 27 2012 18:47 GMT
#310
naniwa has been in 5 teams since sc2 started, juan in 2(he played in root for fun as amateur) how does that make juan a clan hopper? you guys need to get a clue and stop hating just to hate T_T
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ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
February 27 2012 18:53 GMT
#311
On February 28 2012 03:47 desRow wrote:
naniwa has been in 5 teams since sc2 started, juan in 2(he played in root for fun as amateur) how does that make juan a clan hopper? you guys need to get a clue and stop hating just to hate T_T


yea, someone definitely needs to get a clue.
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
ShatterZer0
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1843 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 18:54:46
February 27 2012 18:53 GMT
#312
On February 28 2012 02:08 dragonborn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 16:16 lastshadow wrote:
No, Kas is handicapped compared to Juan, please never say things like that, lol Juan has 200eapm in TvZ/TvP, Kas has 150 (using the Korean apm thing). If you watch Juan IRL you'd see the difference lol.

LOL, kas mechanics/mindset/gameplay is superior to gositerran.

Gositerran and you crying about protoss and Kas beating protoss players left and right.

Also Kas managed to beat "Big guns" in major tournaments like WCG/IEM Kiev, meanwhile gositerran losing some random korean player calling as Tear...

and if you want to talk about apm, merz's apm is 430



I'm sure you'd like to think so, but seeing as Major hasn't had a streamed tournament game in three months... You seem to be bang out of luck.

Also, what credentials do you have to doubt lastshadow?

Take a few replays from a Major replay pack and a Kas replay pack... the difference is pretty damn immense. Kas might have a better mindset and MAYBE even better decision making, but the cleanliness and finesse of his general play is nothing in comparison.

Also, Merz's apm might be high but his map awareness is comparatively terrible when contrasted with Kas or Major... Notice that lastshadow was citing eapm, of which, Merz's isn't much higher than the average progamer.
A time to live.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
February 27 2012 19:12 GMT
#313
On February 28 2012 03:53 ShatterZer0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 02:08 dragonborn wrote:
On February 27 2012 16:16 lastshadow wrote:
No, Kas is handicapped compared to Juan, please never say things like that, lol Juan has 200eapm in TvZ/TvP, Kas has 150 (using the Korean apm thing). If you watch Juan IRL you'd see the difference lol.

LOL, kas mechanics/mindset/gameplay is superior to gositerran.

Gositerran and you crying about protoss and Kas beating protoss players left and right.

Also Kas managed to beat "Big guns" in major tournaments like WCG/IEM Kiev, meanwhile gositerran losing some random korean player calling as Tear...

and if you want to talk about apm, merz's apm is 430



I'm sure you'd like to think so, but seeing as Major hasn't had a streamed tournament game in three months... You seem to be bang out of luck.

Also, what credentials do you have to doubt lastshadow?

Take a few replays from a Major replay pack and a Kas replay pack... the difference is pretty damn immense. Kas might have a better mindset and MAYBE even better decision making, but the cleanliness and finesse of his general play is nothing in comparison.

Also, Merz's apm might be high but his map awareness is comparatively terrible when contrasted with Kas or Major... Notice that lastshadow was citing eapm, of which, Merz's isn't much higher than the average progamer.

who the fuck cares about APM, eAPM, CPM or any of this shit? Kas is the superior player and quite frankly its not close right now. Hell Sjow and Goody are slow and yet they are still better than Major. Major has been all hype.

And desrow, Juan has been on 4 teams, well now 5 with this new one. He was joining ONE before ROOT and ditched them at the last second.
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bLooD.
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany470 Posts
February 27 2012 19:22 GMT
#314
On February 27 2012 22:35 iNcontroL wrote:
Lol

pretty much sums up my thoughts about this. lol
amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
February 27 2012 19:24 GMT
#315
and in other news, water is wet and the grass is green....

but really, if this guy didn't have artosis hype would anyone even care??? the guy hasn't shown anything at any tournament that I can think of, maybe at one MLG he did some damage but that was all...
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
February 27 2012 19:24 GMT
#316
On February 28 2012 03:53 ShatterZer0 wrote:

Also, what credentials do you have to doubt lastshadow?

Well, considering he has really hyped ToD and now Major (who are/were both living with him at the same teamhouse) he might be just a bit biased towards those guys.

Just a hunch though.
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
February 27 2012 19:25 GMT
#317
On February 28 2012 04:12 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 03:53 ShatterZer0 wrote:
On February 28 2012 02:08 dragonborn wrote:
On February 27 2012 16:16 lastshadow wrote:
No, Kas is handicapped compared to Juan, please never say things like that, lol Juan has 200eapm in TvZ/TvP, Kas has 150 (using the Korean apm thing). If you watch Juan IRL you'd see the difference lol.

LOL, kas mechanics/mindset/gameplay is superior to gositerran.

Gositerran and you crying about protoss and Kas beating protoss players left and right.

Also Kas managed to beat "Big guns" in major tournaments like WCG/IEM Kiev, meanwhile gositerran losing some random korean player calling as Tear...

and if you want to talk about apm, merz's apm is 430



I'm sure you'd like to think so, but seeing as Major hasn't had a streamed tournament game in three months... You seem to be bang out of luck.

Also, what credentials do you have to doubt lastshadow?

Take a few replays from a Major replay pack and a Kas replay pack... the difference is pretty damn immense. Kas might have a better mindset and MAYBE even better decision making, but the cleanliness and finesse of his general play is nothing in comparison.

Also, Merz's apm might be high but his map awareness is comparatively terrible when contrasted with Kas or Major... Notice that lastshadow was citing eapm, of which, Merz's isn't much higher than the average progamer.

who the fuck cares about APM, eAPM, CPM or any of this shit? Kas is the superior player and quite frankly its not close right now. Hell Sjow and Goody are slow and yet they are still better than Major. Major has been all hype.

And desrow, Juan has been on 4 teams, well now 5 with this new one. He was joining ONE before ROOT and ditched them at the last second.


Indeed i have no idea how people can even try to compare the two, Kas has put up results Major none that i know of.
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
February 27 2012 19:26 GMT
#318
gl to him and checksix. i would love to see more NA and SA players doing well.

haters gonna hate. world keeps on turning.
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
Beastyqt
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Serbia516 Posts
February 27 2012 19:27 GMT
#319
On February 28 2012 02:08 dragonborn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 16:16 lastshadow wrote:
No, Kas is handicapped compared to Juan, please never say things like that, lol Juan has 200eapm in TvZ/TvP, Kas has 150 (using the Korean apm thing). If you watch Juan IRL you'd see the difference lol.

LOL, kas mechanics/mindset/gameplay is superior to gositerran.

Gositerran and you crying about protoss and Kas beating protoss players left and right.

Also Kas managed to beat "Big guns" in major tournaments like WCG/IEM Kiev, meanwhile gositerran losing some random korean player calling as Tear...

and if you want to talk about apm, merz's apm is 430


Kas maybe have 150apm and on WCG MKP had 300 but Kas still demolished him so comparing Kas apm to someone who never won anyone is hilarious.

Look at Kas match history at TLPD and look at his and their opponents, Kas even beat him already 2-0.
Stream: http://www.twitch.tv/Beastyqt YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/beastyqtsc2
ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
February 27 2012 19:31 GMT
#320
On February 28 2012 02:08 dragonborn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 16:16 lastshadow wrote:
No, Kas is handicapped compared to Juan, please never say things like that, lol Juan has 200eapm in TvZ/TvP, Kas has 150 (using the Korean apm thing). If you watch Juan IRL you'd see the difference lol.

LOL, kas mechanics/mindset/gameplay is superior to gositerran.

Gositerran and you crying about protoss and Kas beating protoss players left and right.

Also Kas managed to beat "Big guns" in major tournaments like WCG/IEM Kiev, meanwhile gositerran losing some random korean player calling as Tear...

and if you want to talk about apm, merz's apm is 430



Shut up. Tear is fucking sick! He's on FXO. He's such a good protoss :D
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