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On February 26 2012 12:29 Wroshe wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 06:27 Razakel wrote:On February 26 2012 06:23 careohx wrote:
Eh IdrA some1 so unprofessional shouldnt be invited. IPL feels like the champions of their previous events should be invited, seems reasonable to me. I agree and I disagree. You invite your most recent champion because you have some sort of a guarantee that he'll perform up to standards because of his fairly recent form when he got that title. This assumes however that you run your tournament sort of frequently. IdrA's IPL1 victory will by then be a year ago. A lot of things happen within a year and some players completly vanish or get a lot worse compared to their earlier results. Just take a look at people like Jinro (GSL RO4), iNcontrol (4th at MLG), Naama (Dreamhack 2010 winner) and then try to say that a person's results from a year ago are a good indicator for somebody's skill today. Having said all this though I can understand that they invited their old champions even though their recent results have been shaky; especially IdrA's recent performance (he hasn't won a single series ever since the NASL Finals at December 2nd) has been absolutely abysmal. However having said that both IdrA and WhiteRa are massive crowd drawers so from a money point of view this is a very good idea. At the end of the day IGN is a business and it would be stupid not to invite these very big names. I'll elaborate a bit more on IdrA's recent performance as the current way this post can be perceived is quite incendiary. + Show Spoiler [Explanation on IdrA statement] +
1| NASL S2 Finals.
He wins 2-0 against Strelok, then falls against PuMa with 0-3.
-> Losing against PuMa is not something to be ashamed off, even though PuMa's TvZ hasn't been his best matchup.
2| WCG.
Falls in group phase, group filled with: Titan, dKiller, Orly, MasterOk, Kelevra and Capoch.
-> IdrA should definatly win aginst every single one of those players with the exception of Titan. Considering that he won his game against Titan he should have advanced easily.
3| GSL Code S.
Losing against NesTea and Lucky.
-> Going down against NesTea is ok and expected. Losing against Lucky should not have happened as Lucky's ZvZ up until then was fairly shaky.
4| GSL Code A.
Going down 2-0 against Avenge.
-> Avenge? Who?
5| MLG Winter Arena.
Gets eliminated in Loser's round 1 after losing against Oz and NesTea.
->Even in great form IdrA could realistically lose against these guys. Really tough luck with the bracket though.
6| Showmatches.
Both against Taeja and aLive he went down 4-0.
7| Team Leagues.
I don't value the Team Leagues that highly for getting an idea on someone's recent form as they are all Best of 1's. However when comparing his losses (ThorZain, HerO, Leenock, Sheth and oGs.Illusion) against his single victory (Axslav) the image that IdrA has been doing bad only gets reinforced.
TLDR: In the end it's a good decision to invite back all their past decisions. One of them for his current form (Stephano) and two of them because they are fan favorites that will increase viewership by quite a lot. (IdrA and WhiteRa)
well said my friend. i'm not the biggest fan of Idra, but if I was planning this event I would be down right stupid if I didn't invite Idra to my event...he does have the most average amt of viewers when he streams.
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So many TL and EG players, this is awesome. Korean teams get in on this!
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On February 26 2012 12:36 rkshox wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 12:29 Wroshe wrote:On February 26 2012 06:27 Razakel wrote:On February 26 2012 06:23 careohx wrote:
Eh IdrA some1 so unprofessional shouldnt be invited. IPL feels like the champions of their previous events should be invited, seems reasonable to me. I agree and I disagree. You invite your most recent champion because you have some sort of a guarantee that he'll perform up to standards because of his fairly recent form when he got that title. This assumes however that you run your tournament sort of frequently. IdrA's IPL1 victory will by then be a year ago. A lot of things happen within a year and some players completly vanish or get a lot worse compared to their earlier results. Just take a look at people like Jinro (GSL RO4), iNcontrol (4th at MLG), Naama (Dreamhack 2010 winner) and then try to say that a person's results from a year ago are a good indicator for somebody's skill today. Having said all this though I can understand that they invited their old champions even though their recent results have been shaky; especially IdrA's recent performance (he hasn't won a single series ever since the NASL Finals at December 2nd) has been absolutely abysmal. However having said that both IdrA and WhiteRa are massive crowd drawers so from a money point of view this is a very good idea. At the end of the day IGN is a business and it would be stupid not to invite these very big names. I'll elaborate a bit more on IdrA's recent performance as the current way this post can be perceived is quite incendiary. + Show Spoiler [Explanation on IdrA statement] +
1| NASL S2 Finals.
He wins 2-0 against Strelok, then falls against PuMa with 0-3.
-> Losing against PuMa is not something to be ashamed off, even though PuMa's TvZ hasn't been his best matchup.
2| WCG.
Falls in group phase, group filled with: Titan, dKiller, Orly, MasterOk, Kelevra and Capoch.
-> IdrA should definatly win aginst every single one of those players with the exception of Titan. Considering that he won his game against Titan he should have advanced easily.
3| GSL Code S.
Losing against NesTea and Lucky.
-> Going down against NesTea is ok and expected. Losing against Lucky should not have happened as Lucky's ZvZ up until then was fairly shaky.
4| GSL Code A.
Going down 2-0 against Avenge.
-> Avenge? Who?
5| MLG Winter Arena.
Gets eliminated in Loser's round 1 after losing against Oz and NesTea.
->Even in great form IdrA could realistically lose against these guys. Really tough luck with the bracket though.
6| Showmatches.
Both against Taeja and aLive he went down 4-0.
7| Team Leagues.
I don't value the Team Leagues that highly for getting an idea on someone's recent form as they are all Best of 1's. However when comparing his losses (ThorZain, HerO, Leenock, Sheth and oGs.Illusion) against his single victory (Axslav) the image that IdrA has been doing bad only gets reinforced.
TLDR: In the end it's a good decision to invite back all their past decisions. One of them for his current form (Stephano) and two of them because they are fan favorites that will increase viewership by quite a lot. (IdrA and WhiteRa) well said my friend. i'm not the biggest fan of Idra, but if I was planning this event I would be down right stupid if I didn't invite Idra to my event...he does have the most average amt of viewers when he streams.
Thanks for that post. 
I was expecting when I opened this thread for the replies that I would have been burned at the stake.
On February 26 2012 12:40 Apollo_Shards wrote:
So many TL and EG players, this is awesome. Korean teams get in on this!
Doubt many Koreans will come. The trip is quite expensive and you'd have to go very deep in order to recover the cost. If anything we might see teams like Startale, MVP, FXO or oGs send one or possibly two players with support from their international partners.
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As to the yet to be named venue: I would not be surprised if it would be at the Caesars Palace. They seemed to work pretty good at IPL3.
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Damn... This is going to be a hard one to go to... I've been waiting for this information to be released for over a month anxious to make my plans finalized.. but now I found out it is on Easter Sunday 
Maybe I'll make it a trip out of Thurs-Sat instead of Fri-Sun... I'll have to see :/
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Vegas is at least fairly easy to get to... go go Allegiant Air.
Weekend works well too, cause there is no school on friday (not that I have friday classes this semester anyway)...
Dunno if i want to actually spend money though.
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On February 26 2012 13:13 LovE- wrote:Damn... This is going to be a hard one to go to... I've been waiting for this information to be released for over a month anxious to make my plans finalized.. but now I found out it is on Easter Sunday Maybe I'll make it a trip out of Thurs-Sat instead of Fri-Sun... I'll have to see :/
I don't think the event starts on Thursday this time.
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On February 25 2012 15:51 Inkarnate wrote:
CatsPajamas, Doa, HDStarCraft, PainUser, TotalBiscuit, dApollo, and maybe even more!
Please more, none of the above can hold my interest.
Dude seriously I don't want to be a jerk but the main reason I don't watch IGN proleague regularly is because the casters are, how should I put this, not my cup of tea. I'm ok with TB and dapollo but the rest are no thanks unfortunately.
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On February 25 2012 15:48 Alex.IGN wrote:
We were able to solve TB's issues about one week after IPL 3. Unfortunately too late for IPL 3, but excited to have him there for IPL 4!
Yay!On February 25 2012 15:48 Alex.IGN wrote:
We are not going behind a PPV paywall. Details about streams to come next week.
Yay!On February 25 2012 15:48 Alex.IGN wrote:
We will be hiring mainly our superstars at IPL 3 (don't panic if you haven't gotten an email or skype call yet, IPL 3 staff!), but there may be room for potential new blood. Will update as I figure that out.
Yay!
You guys should bring Randy along as he was so terrible as to be memorable.
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On February 26 2012 13:34 Antisocialmunky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 15:48 Alex.IGN wrote:
We were able to solve TB's issues about one week after IPL 3. Unfortunately too late for IPL 3, but excited to have him there for IPL 4!
Yay! Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 15:48 Alex.IGN wrote:
We are not going behind a PPV paywall. Details about streams to come next week.
Yay! Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 15:48 Alex.IGN wrote:
We will be hiring mainly our superstars at IPL 3 (don't panic if you haven't gotten an email or skype call yet, IPL 3 staff!), but there may be room for potential new blood. Will update as I figure that out. Yay! You guys should bring Randy along as he was so terrible as to be memorable.
No, please no more Randy.
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On February 26 2012 13:34 Antisocialmunky wrote:You guys should bring Randy along as he was so terrible as to be memorable.
Randy will be back for sure! We want to give him a second chance!
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Wow, taking a look at the open bracket. The entire Liquid roster will be there. Nice!
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Just took a look at the currently qualified players... Who wants to bet against a Korean Terran winning?
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On February 26 2012 13:46 BreaK wrote:
Just took a look at the currently qualified players... Who wants to bet against a Korean Terran winning?
Depends on the odds. This is Vegas after all.
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On February 26 2012 13:44 Alex.IGN wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 13:34 Antisocialmunky wrote:You guys should bring Randy along as he was so terrible as to be memorable. Randy will be back for sure! We want to give him a second chance!
I'm fine with him being back, just make sure not to broadcast him. :p
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On February 25 2012 15:48 Alex.IGN wrote:
We were able to solve TB's issues about one week after IPL 3. Unfortunately too late for IPL 3, but excited to have him there for IPL 4!
We are not going behind a PPV paywall. Details about streams to come next week.
We will be hiring mainly our superstars at IPL 3 (don't panic if you haven't gotten an email or skype call yet, IPL 3 staff!), but there may be room for potential new blood. Will update as I figure that out.
Whew okay I was scared :s
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On February 26 2012 13:53 Wroshe wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 13:44 Alex.IGN wrote:On February 26 2012 13:34 Antisocialmunky wrote:You guys should bring Randy along as he was so terrible as to be memorable. Randy will be back for sure! We want to give him a second chance! I'm fine with him being back, just make sure not to broadcast him. :p
Just trollin
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Will you keep updating the list of players registered for the open bracket?
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omg omg omg, its not the bay area but dammit it is close enough!! Im going to start planning for this trip...I just need to know the venue asap!!
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