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JeffVader
Profile Joined February 2011
United States79 Posts
February 15 2012 21:38 GMT
#341
I don't mean to be another complaint... but no Day 9/Husky combo when MLG is asking for $20.00? A dollar an hour to see it and you don't put the second best casting duo in?

I love that Tastosis is going, but this bothers me quite a bit. Especially when I'm still on the fence about paying the $20.00.
As if you could kill time without injuring eternity.
JeffVader
Profile Joined February 2011
United States79 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 22:07:57
February 15 2012 21:50 GMT
#342
On February 15 2012 10:18 creamer wrote:
lOOOOOOOLLLLLLL too bad I won't be watching this. There is SO much free SC2 that it simply doesn't make sense to do this. Someone wrote earlier that someone has to monetise e-sports. I agree TO AN EXTENT but $20 for 20 hours? My television bill is like $80/month and comes with 900 channels so the sense meter:

[-[-]---------------------------------------------------------------------]

that's how much sense I think $20/20 hours is.
Also MKP isn't playing and I don't watch things he isn't in


I just have to quote this. I think your last reason really rings true. No MKP? No $20.00.

I was going to fork over the $20.00 but then I remembered that I would end up paying close to $200.00 a year to watch MLG content (if I continued to pay for each arena etc.)

Edit: Just realized MKP is playing... therefore... my original quip has been rendered soberingly foolish.
As if you could kill time without injuring eternity.
MLG_Adam
Profile Joined July 2010
United States994 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 22:09:06
February 15 2012 22:08 GMT
#343
On February 16 2012 06:50 JeffVader wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 10:18 creamer wrote:
lOOOOOOOLLLLLLL too bad I won't be watching this. There is SO much free SC2 that it simply doesn't make sense to do this. Someone wrote earlier that someone has to monetise e-sports. I agree TO AN EXTENT but $20 for 20 hours? My television bill is like $80/month and comes with 900 channels so the sense meter:

[-[-]---------------------------------------------------------------------]

that's how much sense I think $20/20 hours is.
Also MKP isn't playing and I don't watch things he isn't in


I just have to quote this. I think your last reason really rings true. No MKP? No $20.00.

I was going to fork over the $20.00 but then I remembered that I would end up paying close to $200.00 a year to watch MLG content (if I continued to pay for each arena etc.)



$20 is the pricing for this first event. We're still collecting feedback, and working on season long, and annual pass offerings. Please don't multiply out all of the potential events and assume that will be the price. We're working on it.

We're also working to announce more features for the upcoming arena (already confirmed to be 100% ad free). Stay tuned.
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fox77
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada95 Posts
February 15 2012 22:15 GMT
#344
For the people asking for Day9 he died.

+ Show Spoiler +
jk jk
brrip
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom211 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 23:21:20
February 15 2012 23:20 GMT
#345
On February 16 2012 07:08 MLG_Adam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 06:50 JeffVader wrote:
On February 15 2012 10:18 creamer wrote:
lOOOOOOOLLLLLLL too bad I won't be watching this. There is SO much free SC2 that it simply doesn't make sense to do this. Someone wrote earlier that someone has to monetise e-sports. I agree TO AN EXTENT but $20 for 20 hours? My television bill is like $80/month and comes with 900 channels so the sense meter:

[-[-]---------------------------------------------------------------------]

that's how much sense I think $20/20 hours is.
Also MKP isn't playing and I don't watch things he isn't in


I just have to quote this. I think your last reason really rings true. No MKP? No $20.00.

I was going to fork over the $20.00 but then I remembered that I would end up paying close to $200.00 a year to watch MLG content (if I continued to pay for each arena etc.)



$20 is the pricing for this first event. We're still collecting feedback, and working on season long, and annual pass offerings. Please don't multiply out all of the potential events and assume that will be the price. We're working on it.

We're also working to announce more features for the upcoming arena (already confirmed to be 100% ad free). Stay tuned.


good to know that this is a beta test of sorts. i will not be participating. sort out the "bugs", see you at the next arena... maybe.

- gold member who just cancelled auto-renewal.
Pugsly
Profile Joined February 2011
United States50 Posts
February 15 2012 23:24 GMT
#346
No Day[9] and add three completely random casters into mix, on top of overcharging people for 3 days worth of content...What the hell is happening over at MLG headquarters?
Thank You Based God
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
February 15 2012 23:31 GMT
#347
On February 16 2012 08:24 Pugsly wrote:
No Day[9] and add three completely random casters into mix, on top of overcharging people for 3 days worth of content...What the hell is happening over at MLG headquarters?

because its not like Day9 might be busy or something. Do you really think they didn't ask Day9? Come on now.

And those 3 guys aren't random. They have been casting for MLG for a few months now.
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Robin_thewonder
Profile Joined April 2011
154 Posts
February 15 2012 23:58 GMT
#348
On February 16 2012 08:31 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 08:24 Pugsly wrote:
No Day[9] and add three completely random casters into mix, on top of overcharging people for 3 days worth of content...What the hell is happening over at MLG headquarters?

because its not like Day9 might be busy or something. Do you really think they didn't ask Day9? Come on now.

And those 3 guys aren't random. They have been casting for MLG for a few months now.


No way man. We are random! :p

Looking forward to the event. I can promise you all we all have been working very hard and hope to bring you one of the best events you have seen.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
February 16 2012 00:15 GMT
#349
On February 16 2012 07:15 fox77 wrote:
For the people asking for Day9 he died.

+ Show Spoiler +
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MegaSmurf
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada2 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-16 00:36:32
February 16 2012 00:26 GMT
#350
I don't understand what the issue is with the amount casters are getting paid. MLG makes its money based on the amount of viewers that it gets. Day9/Tastosis will attract far more viewers than most players at this event. Players such as Huk and Idra who do attract large amounts of viewers are also extremely well paid. Not by the tournament unless they win, but by their teams.
Day 9 can cast a game between any two random players and draw thousands of viewers. Huk can play a game uncasted and draw thousands of viewers. Some of the lesser known players at this event would not draw many viewers without popular casters overseeing their games. Thus because casters such as Day9 will draw more viewers to an event than most of the players will, Day9 also gets more money.
Furthermore, the casters are on camera far more than the players are. Day9 will spend far more time casting games than any individual will spend playing them at a tournament. While time on camera shouldn't be the deciding factor, it probably does play a role.
While it may not seem fair, as some of the players probably put far more effort into preparing for the tournament than the caster and without the players, the casters would be nothing, for the tournament it still comes down to views. A tournament will spend money on what brings them the views and cut corners in areas where it doesn't.
SayTT
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2158 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-16 02:13:58
February 16 2012 02:12 GMT
#351
20$ is dirt cheap for people who live in northern europe and have an income. I reckon it's the same for people in the US. I guess that the majority of fans don't have an income, students, youngsters etc and therefor do not have that amount to "throw away" at will. Thats why you can't compare MMA sport pay per view, their target audience have a stronger economic status then the avrage sc2 fan. "PPV only" might be the future for "some" sc2 events in the future, I think it's a healthy idea, but for that to work you need to grow the fan base of people who have a steady income.
-,-
rkshox
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan536 Posts
February 16 2012 02:41 GMT
#352
so no live audience? =(
@ranleee /// "first we expand, then we defense it'
feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
February 16 2012 02:52 GMT
#353
So Sundance just said there are a couple of unannounced players. I don't see how that could be possible. Anyone want to enlightened me?
OrD
Profile Joined November 2011
United States28 Posts
February 16 2012 06:43 GMT
#354
An awesome event for both the fans and the players (i.e. all expenses paid). So happy to see so many great players in the same tourney - December feels like it was ages ago.
"Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out alive."
ForgeLife
Profile Joined October 2011
United States6 Posts
February 16 2012 06:44 GMT
#355
NO Day[9]?! BOYCOTT!!!
www.youtube.com/ForgeLife
Meteo Rain
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland98 Posts
February 16 2012 06:57 GMT
#356
Im going to use that 20$ for all the goodies and enjoy Assembly <3
I have lost my phone number, can I have yours?
TheBlankets
Profile Joined October 2011
United States14 Posts
February 16 2012 07:07 GMT
#357
I'll watch anything with Rob Simpson in it. I love Rob Simpson.
GohgamX
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada1096 Posts
February 16 2012 07:43 GMT
#358
The Korean/Taiwan seeds are just scary! Glad to see Adebisi on the casting roster, one of my favorites
Time is a great teacher, unfortunate that it kills all its pupils ...
DreamOen
Profile Joined March 2010
Spain1400 Posts
February 16 2012 08:44 GMT
#359
Cool that there is not day9 since I was not paying xd.
Tester | MC | Crank | Flash | Jaedong | MVP
iEatWoofers
Profile Joined August 2011
Switzerland108 Posts
February 16 2012 10:25 GMT
#360
All this for 20$ .... Hmm that's about one lunch where I live... I guess I won't eat once that week no srsly, I'll gladly pay 20$ in good faith that they'll do even better job than last year. I really hope they step up the content between games a lot! (Seems like they are).

Damn this tournament is STACKED! I can't even chose a favourite =/
I really wanna see Ret, Grubby, Socke or Axlav to win (or get really far)!
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