EPTAnd good choice with Adebisi as one of the black/white stream casters, hes quite good.
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Verror
261 Posts
And good choice with Adebisi as one of the black/white stream casters, hes quite good. | ||
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Toshirotl
Portugal128 Posts
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ChriseC
Germany440 Posts
20dollar is what i spend for food a week and its too much for alot of ppl there should be atleast a light version... i bet u pay 20dollar and still get plenty of adverts every break in the game.... no ty 20dollar -> premium no adds + something nice 10dollar -> normal ticket this would be ok | ||
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Senko_
8 Posts
A lot of the viewers include 16 year olds who can't support themselves (yet) & they're basicly telling them well if you can't bring up the money you can't watch the game & the players you love... Unlucky for you. Thing is, a lot of kids actually wish to become pro gamers & they look up to various top players who attend MLG.. Taking those things away from them can affect their motivation & their love for the game. Hell, even students who are having a rough time (money wise) won't be able to tune in... MLG doesn't care about this though as at the end of the day it's still business & for that they just lost the respect I always had for them. Sure, you can watch the VODs after a week but the feeling behind watching live & watching VODs are way different. Things are turning into a joke. | ||
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Vindubs
United States110 Posts
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ftjust
Sweden43 Posts
Its 1 event with PPV its 20 bucks, ( i think its to much) if your 16 ask your parents for 20bucks if they say no tell them your gonna hang with your new friends down on the corner and smoke crack this weekend or i could stay inside and watch MLG for 20$  I like day9 but he doesnt knock anyone down from the current caster lineup. hes to dramatic and has quite a weak vocabulary i want more play by play and analytical casts and from day9 i get OOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH MYYYY GOOOOOOOD! OHHH YES SOOOO GOOOOOOOOOD!!!.... bias. | ||
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ChriseC
Germany440 Posts
On February 16 2012 02:01 Senko_ wrote: I always thought MLG's an excellent tournament I always loved to watch whenever I had the time/chance to do so.. But now with PPV I can safely say my respect for them went down the drain like.. Hell, I haven't even looked at the players' list because it doesn't even matter to me anymore. A lot of the viewers include 16 year olds who can't support themselves (yet) & they're basicly telling them well if you can't bring up the money you can't watch the game & the players you love... Unlucky for you. Thing is, a lot of kids actually wish to become pro gamers & they look up to various top players who attend MLG.. Taking those things away from them can affect their motivation & their love for the game. Hell, even students who are having a rough time (money wise) won't be able to tune in... MLG doesn't care about this though as at the end of the day it's still business & for that they just lost the respect I always had for them. Sure, you can watch the VODs after a week but the feeling behind watching live & watching VODs are way different. Things are turning into a joke. time to switch to league of legends but u are right, i would prefer having a huge fanbase watching (and i know mlg has alot of viewer and fans) than having a few who could afford the money | ||
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OwNaGeForce
12 Posts
That being said, if you personally think the price is too expensive and there is enough free content already out there to warrant purchase then thats a legitimate opinion, but it's ridiculous to bash MLG over what they are doing. | ||
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shark.
593 Posts
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h3nG
46 Posts
I am glad there's no day9 cause I am not watching it anyways. | ||
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Meser87
United States476 Posts
On February 16 2012 02:50 shark. wrote: whys real not in the European part? hes been a baller recently and owned alot at homestory. thought they would get him over someone TT They had qualifiers for the three regions... | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On February 16 2012 01:55 ChriseC wrote: 20dollar is way too much 20dollar is what i spend for food a week and its too much for alot of ppl there should be atleast a light version... i bet u pay 20dollar and still get plenty of adverts every break in the game.... no ty 20dollar -> premium no adds + something nice 10dollar -> normal ticket this would be ok 20 dollars on food each week? I'm probably around 40 a week, and there are many days where I only eat 2 meals. Shame Day9 and Husky are not casting, as I felt they especially made a good team. | ||
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Sakkreth
Lithuania1096 Posts
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MLG_Adam
United States994 Posts
Husky is also booked, mainly with non e-sports video work. | ||
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Korlinni
125 Posts
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Kich
United States339 Posts
There's the obvious "I'm in middle/high school and can't get my parents to pay for this" crowd which is expected to come out in droves anytime anyone mentions money, but what I'm really shocked about are the genuinely grown adults who aren't willing to pay for something they -want- to see. If you don't want to pay, that's perfectly fine, it doesn't really matter why--you're not going to anyways. What's silly is coming here and saying things like "MLG is hurting eSports." What fairy tale land do you live in where things are just always free forever? Am I just way too realistic for my own good or something? Why does this not even remotely bother me and yet the gross majority of this thread feels incredibly threatened by it. You can't compare the money you spend on entertainment to the money you spend on living, they're mutually exclusive. Money spent on living is a necessity, it is money you are required to spend. Money spent on entertainment is entirely your choice. You could spend $20 a week on food to just survive, that's absolutely true. But on the entertainment side, going out to eat and getting a nice dinner can in and of itself be $20. $20 is realistically about how much any one person would spend on a single night out enjoying themselves by themselves or with friends, it's about how much I spend per week on doing something fun. Relative to other things, $20 for 3 entire days of sick Starcraft 2 to watch is entirely worth it. I'll pay for it. I'll pay for the GSL too. I'll pay for the next MLG thing that lets me watch shit in HD. I'll honestly give money to organizations that are making e-sports happen at pretty much any turn, why not? MLG has given me countless hours of enjoyment in the past, they've been good to me. I look at giving them $20 for a weekend like giving a nice waiter/waitress a tip, if they're awesome, why not tip them more? They deserve it. I can't wrap my head around how fickle you people are, I feel like I could spend hours just browsing your posting history finding hypocrisy and contradiction to this--your decision to like or not like something seems almost arbitrary and held by a string. There's so many posts saying things like "I used to have a ton of respect for MLG, now I don't." Then you didn't really have much respect for them to begin with, you didn't really care about them, you took them for granted that they offered you free content and you didn't actually give a shit about them. I'm willing to give them some money, why not? They put in a lot of work to make these things happen. They're not sitting on thrones of gold laughing maniacally about the mountains of money they're making. If they're asking for a small amount of money in exchange for content, that's fine. They don't ask me to pay for anything else, but I do anyways because I care about MLG, I'm excited about MLG when it happens, I tell my friends about it, I watch it with my friends. And the casters are fine, Tastosis by themselves are worth $20--if you're looking for high level analytical commentary then tournament streams aren't really the thing for you, it's not what they're there for. I like them for who they are, they're fun to listen to, they remind me of my best friend and I when we're talking about things. DJ Wheat is a great caster and the other dude was fine too. There's another tournament going on for free? That's cool too. I'll probably watch and support them as well during games I don't really care about or whatever. Is it that hard to just be mad reasonable about shit? | ||
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Mimic89
Sweden10 Posts
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Miscellany
Wales125 Posts
On February 16 2012 03:48 Kich wrote:x Really good post. I think the main cause of gripe is that previous MLG tournaments were free, so this change is bound to bring stirs. The relative price with respect to other tournaments is also high. But I do mainly agree with your sentiments. Also, caster + player list looks amazing! | ||
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BlackDove
Sweden11 Posts
I simply won't be paying it because when I tune in to some starcraft matches, I expect them to be entertaining and free. I do not sit by the computer for hours on end, expecting to get my money's worth. I tune in, tune out, and tune in again at my leasure. NASL tried charging for things. Enterance to that venue. For high quality. That went well. At any rate, it's not surprising that people would try to make large amounts of money over and over again, by pushing for people to change their view of what is standard, and acceptable. It's up to the consumers to decide what something is worth. By not buying this, I'm simply saying I want my tournaments free of charge and free of hassle. It's obviously a sustainable model. I hope this trend continues. But if it does not, oh well. There'll be something else to do. | ||
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