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Verror
Profile Joined March 2011
261 Posts
February 15 2012 16:48 GMT
#301
Cool that San qualified, hes been lookin pretty good in ksl/gstl, was waiting to see more from him again.

And good choice with Adebisi as one of the black/white stream casters, hes quite good.
Toshirotl
Profile Joined January 2012
Portugal128 Posts
February 15 2012 16:54 GMT
#302
Probably gonna have something like 8 or 9 koreans in the top 10
ChriseC
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany440 Posts
February 15 2012 16:55 GMT
#303
20dollar is way too much
20dollar is what i spend for food a week and its too much for alot of ppl

there should be atleast a light version...

i bet u pay 20dollar and still get plenty of adverts every break in the game.... no ty

20dollar -> premium no adds + something nice
10dollar -> normal ticket

this would be ok
Senko_
Profile Joined February 2012
8 Posts
February 15 2012 17:01 GMT
#304
I always thought MLG's an excellent tournament I always loved to watch whenever I had the time/chance to do so.. But now with PPV I can safely say my respect for them went down the drain like.. Hell, I haven't even looked at the players' list because it doesn't even matter to me anymore.

A lot of the viewers include 16 year olds who can't support themselves (yet) & they're basicly telling them well if you can't bring up the money you can't watch the game & the players you love... Unlucky for you.

Thing is, a lot of kids actually wish to become pro gamers & they look up to various top players who attend MLG.. Taking those things away from them can affect their motivation & their love for the game. Hell, even students who are having a rough time (money wise) won't be able to tune in... MLG doesn't care about this though as at the end of the day it's still business & for that they just lost the respect I always had for them.

Sure, you can watch the VODs after a week but the feeling behind watching live & watching VODs are way different.



Things are turning into a joke.
Vindubs
Profile Joined May 2010
United States110 Posts
February 15 2012 17:08 GMT
#305
I would pay if i had the entire weekend off but i gotta work all weekend so shelling out 20$ to miss most of it is not an option. now if it were 5-10$ for limited viewin of 1 or 2 streams id buy that in a heartbeat because 10$ for an entire weekend even if im missing most of it is a deal. 20$ not so much. i Mean hell i payed 30$ to go the event why would i pay 20$ to watch it when im gonna miss it.
Stephano,Sase,Naniwa HWAITING!
ftjust
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden43 Posts
February 15 2012 17:11 GMT
#306
People are taking things way to serious and crying to hard to fast.

Its 1 event with PPV its 20 bucks, ( i think its to much) if your 16 ask your parents for 20bucks if they say no tell them your gonna hang with your new friends down on the corner and smoke crack this weekend or i could stay inside and watch MLG for 20$

I like day9 but he doesnt knock anyone down from the current caster lineup. hes to dramatic and has quite a weak vocabulary
i want more play by play and analytical casts and from day9 i get OOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH MYYYY GOOOOOOOD! OHHH YES SOOOO GOOOOOOOOOD!!!.... bias.
ChriseC
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany440 Posts
February 15 2012 17:15 GMT
#307
On February 16 2012 02:01 Senko_ wrote:
I always thought MLG's an excellent tournament I always loved to watch whenever I had the time/chance to do so.. But now with PPV I can safely say my respect for them went down the drain like.. Hell, I haven't even looked at the players' list because it doesn't even matter to me anymore.

A lot of the viewers include 16 year olds who can't support themselves (yet) & they're basicly telling them well if you can't bring up the money you can't watch the game & the players you love... Unlucky for you.

Thing is, a lot of kids actually wish to become pro gamers & they look up to various top players who attend MLG.. Taking those things away from them can affect their motivation & their love for the game. Hell, even students who are having a rough time (money wise) won't be able to tune in... MLG doesn't care about this though as at the end of the day it's still business & for that they just lost the respect I always had for them.

Sure, you can watch the VODs after a week but the feeling behind watching live & watching VODs are way different.



Things are turning into a joke.


time to switch to league of legends

but u are right,
i would prefer having a huge fanbase watching (and i know mlg has alot of viewer and fans) than having a few who could afford the money
OwNaGeForce
Profile Joined September 2011
12 Posts
February 15 2012 17:27 GMT
#308
I don't understand why people are going nuts. eSports, like anything, is a business that is supposed to make a profit. MLG is flying in casters, has a SUPER sick player list and is planning to offer additional content aside from the games. If you're a fan, 20$ in the scheme of things really isn't a prohibitive price. People who are complaining and saying they have lost respect for MLG are showing themselves to be clueless about how things actually work. I mean, the GSL costs money. With the regular ticket, you are paying AND watching ads =/

That being said, if you personally think the price is too expensive and there is enough free content already out there to warrant purchase then thats a legitimate opinion, but it's ridiculous to bash MLG over what they are doing.


shark.
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
593 Posts
February 15 2012 17:50 GMT
#309
whys real not in the European part? hes been a baller recently and owned alot at homestory. thought they would get him over someone TT
h3nG
Profile Joined March 2011
46 Posts
February 15 2012 17:57 GMT
#310
Why do you guys care??? Most of us aren't even going to pay the $20 anyways. LOL.

I am glad there's no day9 cause I am not watching it anyways.
Meser87
Profile Joined April 2011
United States476 Posts
February 15 2012 18:06 GMT
#311
On February 16 2012 02:50 shark. wrote:
whys real not in the European part? hes been a baller recently and owned alot at homestory. thought they would get him over someone TT


They had qualifiers for the three regions...
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
February 15 2012 18:10 GMT
#312
That's a pretty even race ratio all across the regions, all things considered.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 15 2012 18:37 GMT
#313
On February 16 2012 01:55 ChriseC wrote:
20dollar is way too much
20dollar is what i spend for food a week and its too much for alot of ppl

there should be atleast a light version...

i bet u pay 20dollar and still get plenty of adverts every break in the game.... no ty

20dollar -> premium no adds + something nice
10dollar -> normal ticket

this would be ok


20 dollars on food each week? I'm probably around 40 a week, and there are many days where I only eat 2 meals.

Shame Day9 and Husky are not casting, as I felt they especially made a good team.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Sakkreth
Profile Joined February 2011
Lithuania1096 Posts
February 15 2012 18:41 GMT
#314
No WhiteRa and no Day9 makes me sad panda, Rob is great though.
WhiteRa, NaNiWa, Creator, sOs, Krr, ForGG, MMA, Zest ||
MLG_Adam
Profile Joined July 2010
United States994 Posts
February 15 2012 18:44 GMT
#315
Day9 was booked (not with another event by the way) and could not make it to the arena.

Husky is also booked, mainly with non e-sports video work.
Twitter: MrAdamAp
Korlinni
Profile Joined April 2011
125 Posts
February 15 2012 18:45 GMT
#316
I have spent $40 on a PPV before that was only 4hrs.
Impossible is a word to be found only in the dictionary of fools!
Kich
Profile Joined April 2011
United States339 Posts
February 15 2012 18:48 GMT
#317
The fairy-tale landedness of people in this thread is astounding.

There's the obvious "I'm in middle/high school and can't get my parents to pay for this" crowd which is expected to come out in droves anytime anyone mentions money, but what I'm really shocked about are the genuinely grown adults who aren't willing to pay for something they -want- to see.

If you don't want to pay, that's perfectly fine, it doesn't really matter why--you're not going to anyways. What's silly is coming here and saying things like "MLG is hurting eSports." What fairy tale land do you live in where things are just always free forever? Am I just way too realistic for my own good or something? Why does this not even remotely bother me and yet the gross majority of this thread feels incredibly threatened by it.

You can't compare the money you spend on entertainment to the money you spend on living, they're mutually exclusive. Money spent on living is a necessity, it is money you are required to spend. Money spent on entertainment is entirely your choice.

You could spend $20 a week on food to just survive, that's absolutely true. But on the entertainment side, going out to eat and getting a nice dinner can in and of itself be $20. $20 is realistically about how much any one person would spend on a single night out enjoying themselves by themselves or with friends, it's about how much I spend per week on doing something fun.

Relative to other things, $20 for 3 entire days of sick Starcraft 2 to watch is entirely worth it. I'll pay for it. I'll pay for the GSL too. I'll pay for the next MLG thing that lets me watch shit in HD. I'll honestly give money to organizations that are making e-sports happen at pretty much any turn, why not? MLG has given me countless hours of enjoyment in the past, they've been good to me. I look at giving them $20 for a weekend like giving a nice waiter/waitress a tip, if they're awesome, why not tip them more? They deserve it.

I can't wrap my head around how fickle you people are, I feel like I could spend hours just browsing your posting history finding hypocrisy and contradiction to this--your decision to like or not like something seems almost arbitrary and held by a string. There's so many posts saying things like "I used to have a ton of respect for MLG, now I don't." Then you didn't really have much respect for them to begin with, you didn't really care about them, you took them for granted that they offered you free content and you didn't actually give a shit about them.

I'm willing to give them some money, why not? They put in a lot of work to make these things happen. They're not sitting on thrones of gold laughing maniacally about the mountains of money they're making. If they're asking for a small amount of money in exchange for content, that's fine. They don't ask me to pay for anything else, but I do anyways because I care about MLG, I'm excited about MLG when it happens, I tell my friends about it, I watch it with my friends.

And the casters are fine, Tastosis by themselves are worth $20--if you're looking for high level analytical commentary then tournament streams aren't really the thing for you, it's not what they're there for. I like them for who they are, they're fun to listen to, they remind me of my best friend and I when we're talking about things. DJ Wheat is a great caster and the other dude was fine too.

There's another tournament going on for free? That's cool too. I'll probably watch and support them as well during games I don't really care about or whatever.

Is it that hard to just be mad reasonable about shit?
Mimic89
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden10 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 19:05:48
February 15 2012 19:00 GMT
#318
No Kas?!
Miscellany
Profile Joined September 2011
Wales125 Posts
February 15 2012 19:05 GMT
#319
On February 16 2012 03:48 Kich wrote:x

Really good post. I think the main cause of gripe is that previous MLG tournaments were free, so this change is bound to bring stirs. The relative price with respect to other tournaments is also high. But I do mainly agree with your sentiments.


Also, caster + player list looks amazing!
BlackDove
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden11 Posts
February 15 2012 19:09 GMT
#320
Charging $20 for a tournament seems perfectly fine.

I simply won't be paying it because when I tune in to some starcraft matches, I expect them to be entertaining and free. I do not sit by the computer for hours on end, expecting to get my money's worth. I tune in, tune out, and tune in again at my leasure.

NASL tried charging for things. Enterance to that venue. For high quality.

That went well.

At any rate, it's not surprising that people would try to make large amounts of money over and over again, by pushing for people to change their view of what is standard, and acceptable.

It's up to the consumers to decide what something is worth.

By not buying this, I'm simply saying I want my tournaments free of charge and free of hassle. It's obviously a sustainable model.

I hope this trend continues. But if it does not, oh well. There'll be something else to do.
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