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FuFighter
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany60 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 15:42:24
February 15 2012 14:58 GMT
#281
Edit: Ooops, posted the same thing twice, sorry
"Scissors are fine, Paper is IMBA." - Rock
Purple Haze
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom200 Posts
February 15 2012 15:01 GMT
#282
On February 15 2012 22:59 Cheydahi wrote:
Ok time to change the monotomus tone of these posts.

Congratulations to MLG for actually trying to do something. eSports has hit a point where if we want it to become a serious way to earn a living then more money needs to be involved and generated. Once upon a time football wasn't the multi million pound world it is today. Look at Sky Sports for example. When they came about people rose up and complained that they would never pay to watch football (and other sports) but they are still here and are a major reason why clubs have so much money.

$20 in the grand scheme of things is not a lot of money. Yes I understand that a lot of people don't work or are too young but really it's not a lot.

Yet again the internet over reacts and demands free stuff.

Flame away if you must, I've said my piece and expressed my opinion.


And I think a lot of people, particularly the hardcore support, would consider that football is now a cesspool of spoilt brats on the pitch and greedy businessmen off it treating the supporters with contempt time and time again and spraying obscene amounts of money around.
clwzim
Profile Joined February 2012
Brazil65 Posts
February 15 2012 15:01 GMT
#283
no day9 and ppv i see a huge debit from this event ....
Quakie
Profile Joined October 2008
Norway725 Posts
February 15 2012 15:02 GMT
#284
On February 15 2012 23:57 Xeris wrote:
Quick question -- did MLG not broadcast the NA qualifier? Or did I totally miss it? Or did they announce the players who made it before broadcasting the qualifier?

+1!

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Winter/North_America

The brackets is not updated either.
clementdudu
Profile Joined September 2010
France819 Posts
February 15 2012 15:12 GMT
#285
On February 16 2012 00:01 Purple Haze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 22:59 Cheydahi wrote:
Ok time to change the monotomus tone of these posts.

Congratulations to MLG for actually trying to do something. eSports has hit a point where if we want it to become a serious way to earn a living then more money needs to be involved and generated. Once upon a time football wasn't the multi million pound world it is today. Look at Sky Sports for example. When they came about people rose up and complained that they would never pay to watch football (and other sports) but they are still here and are a major reason why clubs have so much money.

$20 in the grand scheme of things is not a lot of money. Yes I understand that a lot of people don't work or are too young but really it's not a lot.

Yet again the internet over reacts and demands free stuff.

Flame away if you must, I've said my piece and expressed my opinion.


And I think a lot of people, particularly the hardcore support, would consider that football is now a cesspool of spoilt brats on the pitch and greedy businessmen off it treating the supporters with contempt time and time again and spraying obscene amounts of money around.

and then came platini;o please have platini as head of uefa for a few more terms and youll see what change hell bring.isnt the new economic law starting in 2013 or 2014?

/wrong thread
i had the pissed off at mlg phase yesterday,but watching the players/casters today i thought well ill catch a restream,then remembered this was played without a live audience.not staying up all night to watch 3 guys in an empty studio.

anyway
Hondelul
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1999 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 15:14:19
February 15 2012 15:12 GMT
#286
On February 16 2012 00:02 Quakie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 23:57 Xeris wrote:
Quick question -- did MLG not broadcast the NA qualifier? Or did I totally miss it? Or did they announce the players who made it before broadcasting the qualifier?

+1!

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Winter/North_America

The brackets is not updated either.


http://pro.majorleaguegaming.com/competitions/28#event_86_broadcast-schedule

North American Ladder:

Thursday, Feb 16 -
Friday, Feb 17
Saturday, Feb 18
Sunday, Feb 19

Each day's broadcast will begin at 7pm ET and will run for roughly 4-6 hours.

Not broadcasted yet. Hence the spoiler warning in the OP for the qualified players.
Edit: Forgot the quote...
Damnight
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany222 Posts
February 15 2012 15:13 GMT
#287
So it´s basicly 24:00 CET? can do
cellblock
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden206 Posts
February 15 2012 15:49 GMT
#288
Its pathetic and sad that so many are focusing on whos casting. SC2 is an esport and esport wants reflect a normal sport. You dont see sport fans whine about whos commentating matches now do you?
Elitios
Profile Joined February 2012
France164 Posts
February 15 2012 15:50 GMT
#289
no free stream? this is basically a way to say "we don't want EU viewers".
too bad, the event looks sweet.
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
February 15 2012 15:55 GMT
#290
no day9?
yeah.. no 20 bucks sorry
Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
February 15 2012 15:56 GMT
#291
On February 16 2012 00:49 cellblock wrote:
Its pathetic and sad that so many are focusing on whos casting. SC2 is an esport and esport wants reflect a normal sport. You dont see sport fans whine about whos commentating matches now do you?


The problem is that there is such a huge difference between the top casters and the ones below. Also I know a lot of people complain and have problems watching some of the commentators on swedish TV for football matches.
The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.
Nightmer09
Profile Joined May 2011
Romania16 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 15:57:36
February 15 2012 15:56 GMT
#292
Sure 20$ to watch their tournament, I think I'll pass.
Also I don't know about you guys but I after moletrap I hate day9 the most, he screams like a no-lifer and he talks too much nonsense, he just pisses me off all the time.

User was warned for this post
asdadada
TheChairman
Profile Joined May 2011
United States46 Posts
February 15 2012 16:07 GMT
#293
On February 16 2012 00:49 cellblock wrote:
Its pathetic and sad that so many are focusing on whos casting. SC2 is an esport and esport wants reflect a normal sport. You dont see sport fans whine about whos commentating matches now do you?


This isn't entirely true. I watch a lot of baseball and I will always turn off a game that is broadcasted by Joe Buck or Tim McCarver. It is just as bad to generalize people as pathetic because they enjoy a personality that they are exposed to for a significant time over the course of an event.
Pingu242
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada18 Posts
February 15 2012 16:08 GMT
#294
Kinda makes me want to spend 20$. I wish the 20 pass got you more than this one event though.
cTrFray
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden13 Posts
February 15 2012 16:10 GMT
#295
will mlg cost to watch?
" potatos gonna potate"
Intact
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden634 Posts
February 15 2012 16:13 GMT
#296
On February 15 2012 08:23 riddi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 08:22 Maddhatter1 wrote:
no Day9?

also that NA lineup is gonna get demolished


Sheth/SaSe might have a chance, and theres a couple of people who will take the odd game i think. But yer weak showing from NA.

Funny how one of the players from the american group you say might take a game is european
bouhko
Profile Joined January 2012
193 Posts
February 15 2012 16:17 GMT
#297
On February 16 2012 00:49 cellblock wrote:
Its pathetic and sad that so many are focusing on whos casting. SC2 is an esport and esport wants reflect a normal sport. You dont see sport fans whine about whos commentating matches now do you?

Sure you do. At least in France and Switzerland, I've heard a lot of people complain about soccer/tennis casters and some caster duos are much more popular than others.

But yeah, maybe it's more common in eSport. I think it's due to the massive difference between the top casters and the other ones.
u sixpoll ?
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
February 15 2012 16:22 GMT
#298
no day 9 AND ppv?

no thanks

gonna have fun watching assembly
MY LIFE STARTS NOW ♥
FuFighter
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany60 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 16:32:10
February 15 2012 16:30 GMT
#299
On February 16 2012 01:17 bouhko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 00:49 cellblock wrote:
Its pathetic and sad that so many are focusing on whos casting. SC2 is an esport and esport wants reflect a normal sport. You dont see sport fans whine about whos commentating matches now do you?

Sure you do. At least in France and Switzerland, I've heard a lot of people complain about soccer/tennis casters and some caster duos are much more popular than others.

But yeah, maybe it's more common in eSport. I think it's due to the massive difference between the top casters and the other ones.


I agree, it's the same in Germany wehen there's football (it's football, not soccer ) on. Some comentators are generally hated by everyone. Sure, you still watch it but that's because you have no choice if you want to see your favourite team or the national team or whatever play. I've watched quite a few games on mute myself though
If on the other hand the situation was comperable to eSports and there were two matches of teams you equally like and the match is equally important (i.e. it's not like team a plays in the finals and team b plays a practice game) and one of them is free/the other one you have to pay for I'm pretty sure the person casting the event would influence your decision on what to watch.

The main difference is that such a situation practically never occurs in more established sports. In football most people support one team and don't have much love for any other team so they will watch their team, regardless of who's casting (and ofc they will still hate on the commentator). In SC2 though people generally cheer for several players so if you can either watch your favourite player who is casted by your least facourite casting duo or your second favourite player casted by your favourite duo, most people prefer watching their second favourite player.
Also I agree that the difference between top casters and the other ones is way bigger than in traditional sports.
"Scissors are fine, Paper is IMBA." - Rock
DailYLeet
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany827 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 16:32:55
February 15 2012 16:31 GMT
#300
Who is "Marcus"?

No Mr B.? No Day9? No Husky?

€: Oh, DJwheat is marcus :D
"King Goody spoke - you have to treat his words like gold , he is the wisest man , who ever crossed the EU server" - Cloud
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