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roymarthyup
Profile Joined April 2010
1442 Posts
February 23 2012 01:21 GMT
#201
i have a slight question about this MLG PPV event



i know when someone orders UFC on PPV, the PPV cable TV company gets a large cut of the money (sometimes a 55% cut) and UFC doesnt get all of it


however i bet since this is online PPV through MLG's website, MLG should be receiving 100% of the money that the PPV plan generates, correct?


or is there someone else that is taking a cut of MLG's PPV money?

crap, just remembered maybe blizzard is taking a cut. hope its no more than 10% or that would be stupid
Spaceneil8
Profile Joined February 2011
United States317 Posts
February 23 2012 01:23 GMT
#202
On February 23 2012 10:21 roymarthyup wrote:
i have a slight question about this MLG PPV event



i know when someone orders UFC on PPV, the PPV cable TV company gets a large cut of the money (sometimes a 55% cut) and UFC doesnt get all of it


however i bet since this is online PPV through MLG's website, MLG should be receiving 100% of the money that the PPV plan generates, correct?


or is there someone else that is taking a cut of MLG's PPV money?

crap, just remembered maybe blizzard is taking a cut. hope its no more than 10% or that would be stupid

Twitchtv is taking a cut as well afaik.
roymarthyup
Profile Joined April 2010
1442 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-23 01:25:53
February 23 2012 01:25 GMT
#203
On February 23 2012 10:23 Spaceneil8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 10:21 roymarthyup wrote:
i have a slight question about this MLG PPV event



i know when someone orders UFC on PPV, the PPV cable TV company gets a large cut of the money (sometimes a 55% cut) and UFC doesnt get all of it


however i bet since this is online PPV through MLG's website, MLG should be receiving 100% of the money that the PPV plan generates, correct?


or is there someone else that is taking a cut of MLG's PPV money?

crap, just remembered maybe blizzard is taking a cut. hope its no more than 10% or that would be stupid

Twitchtv is taking a cut as well afaik.


dunno why MLG would do that when they have streams on their own website and they could get 100% of the money by just running their streams?

man this seems so crazy. why wouldnt mlg just use their streams to make all the money off their own event so they dont have to pay any leeches

or i guess maybe twitch is working with them to run the streams or something so this is MLG's way of paying twitch to do the streamwork while MLG no longer needs to hire people to do streamwork. if thats the case i understand it.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27174 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-23 01:26:19
February 23 2012 01:25 GMT
#204
On February 23 2012 09:24 Aunvilgod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 09:20 Devolved wrote:
On February 23 2012 09:06 Xxio wrote:
Why so angry, god of aunvils?
This thread seems pretty OK to me.

It does seem somewhat of a grey area considering this a PPV-only event, which means any thread made by MLG about this event is for profit/advertising. Is TL getting a slice of the pie or are they just using TL to profit off of the biggest SC2 community website? Normally wouldn't a thread like this have to be under the "Sponsored Threads" section since it is a direct advertisement to make money off of TL users? I guess TL is ok with it since they haven't said anything to the contrary and the thread is still open.


For exactly this reason. Aside from my disgust about the PPV I really do not like advertisements like this in this section. And, seriously, this is obviously an advertisement.


You are right, this thread isn't ideal. We talked about this as the staff, and decided that if GOM was rolling out a new model and people had questions about it, they would have a thread too. People want to know how they can watch, so it is important to have that information out there. And no, TL is not getting any cut.
ModeratorGodfather
Balgrog
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1221 Posts
February 23 2012 01:37 GMT
#205
I actually had to borrow money to pay for this, and I am sooooo excited. They are doing so much to put on the BEST run tournament yet! The big thing is if they fuck up (outside of stuff like a van hitting the internet) I and EVERYONE else that paid will be furious and MLG can bet they will never be able to charge money for an event ever again. MLG if you are reading this, STOP BRINGING ROBIN AS A FUCKING CASTER!
The only way to attack structure is with chaos.
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
February 23 2012 01:57 GMT
#206
On February 23 2012 10:25 roymarthyup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 10:23 Spaceneil8 wrote:
On February 23 2012 10:21 roymarthyup wrote:
i have a slight question about this MLG PPV event



i know when someone orders UFC on PPV, the PPV cable TV company gets a large cut of the money (sometimes a 55% cut) and UFC doesnt get all of it


however i bet since this is online PPV through MLG's website, MLG should be receiving 100% of the money that the PPV plan generates, correct?


or is there someone else that is taking a cut of MLG's PPV money?

crap, just remembered maybe blizzard is taking a cut. hope its no more than 10% or that would be stupid

Twitchtv is taking a cut as well afaik.


dunno why MLG would do that when they have streams on their own website and they could get 100% of the money by just running their streams?

man this seems so crazy. why wouldnt mlg just use their streams to make all the money off their own event so they dont have to pay any leeches

or i guess maybe twitch is working with them to run the streams or something so this is MLG's way of paying twitch to do the streamwork while MLG no longer needs to hire people to do streamwork. if thats the case i understand it.

I don't think MLG has ever had the infrastructure to do their own streams. In past MLGs it appeared this way because the company they used didn't plaster their name on the stream, but I'm pretty sure they were using an outside source for the stream/streaming bandwidth. For instance, MLG would provide the initial stream, then another company would rebroadcast that stream using their own bandwidth that could support thousands of users. So even something like the satellite truck was only used as a backup for the initial stream, and not for world-wide streaming broadcasts. I could be mistaken, but I remember reading something along those lines once upon a time.
$♥$
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
February 23 2012 03:40 GMT
#207
On February 23 2012 10:25 Manifesto7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 09:24 Aunvilgod wrote:
On February 23 2012 09:20 Devolved wrote:
On February 23 2012 09:06 Xxio wrote:
Why so angry, god of aunvils?
This thread seems pretty OK to me.

It does seem somewhat of a grey area considering this a PPV-only event, which means any thread made by MLG about this event is for profit/advertising. Is TL getting a slice of the pie or are they just using TL to profit off of the biggest SC2 community website? Normally wouldn't a thread like this have to be under the "Sponsored Threads" section since it is a direct advertisement to make money off of TL users? I guess TL is ok with it since they haven't said anything to the contrary and the thread is still open.


For exactly this reason. Aside from my disgust about the PPV I really do not like advertisements like this in this section. And, seriously, this is obviously an advertisement.


You are right, this thread isn't ideal. We talked about this as the staff, and decided that if GOM was rolling out a new model and people had questions about it, they would have a thread too. People want to know how they can watch, so it is important to have that information out there. And no, TL is not getting any cut.

Didn't everyone know about it from the initial announcement? If people want to learn more about it or have questions then they can head over to the MLG website. I dunno if I'd be so kind as to let an outside company come into my place of business and profit off of my popularity. It'd be like Verizon setting up a kiosk inside of Best Buy and selling their phones at their own kiosk instead at the Best Buy checkout and doing this without paying any type of fees whatsoever. They'd increase their profits solely based on the work/reputation of another establishment, the exact same as MLG is doing through this thread on TL.

On top of MLG taking advantage of TL's popularity for their own gain, I think TL should be asking themselves if they really want to promote PPV-only SC2 events. Does it fall in line with TL's views of the future of SC2? If this somehow ends up working for MLG, other companies will follow this model. Is this something TL wants to be a part of? Can we expect the next TSL to be pay-per-view-only?

I'll stop talking about it now since y'all have obviously already discussed it and came to a different conclusion than I have drawn.
$♥$
Doctor.Ownage
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States39 Posts
February 23 2012 03:44 GMT
#208
The only reason I would consider payin for ppv would be to enjoy a Husky-less MLG!
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
February 23 2012 05:41 GMT
#209
On February 23 2012 12:40 Devolved wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 10:25 Manifesto7 wrote:
On February 23 2012 09:24 Aunvilgod wrote:
On February 23 2012 09:20 Devolved wrote:
On February 23 2012 09:06 Xxio wrote:
Why so angry, god of aunvils?
This thread seems pretty OK to me.

It does seem somewhat of a grey area considering this a PPV-only event, which means any thread made by MLG about this event is for profit/advertising. Is TL getting a slice of the pie or are they just using TL to profit off of the biggest SC2 community website? Normally wouldn't a thread like this have to be under the "Sponsored Threads" section since it is a direct advertisement to make money off of TL users? I guess TL is ok with it since they haven't said anything to the contrary and the thread is still open.


For exactly this reason. Aside from my disgust about the PPV I really do not like advertisements like this in this section. And, seriously, this is obviously an advertisement.


You are right, this thread isn't ideal. We talked about this as the staff, and decided that if GOM was rolling out a new model and people had questions about it, they would have a thread too. People want to know how they can watch, so it is important to have that information out there. And no, TL is not getting any cut.

Didn't everyone know about it from the initial announcement? If people want to learn more about it or have questions then they can head over to the MLG website. I dunno if I'd be so kind as to let an outside company come into my place of business and profit off of my popularity. It'd be like Verizon setting up a kiosk inside of Best Buy and selling their phones at their own kiosk instead at the Best Buy checkout and doing this without paying any type of fees whatsoever. They'd increase their profits solely based on the work/reputation of another establishment, the exact same as MLG is doing through this thread on TL.

On top of MLG taking advantage of TL's popularity for their own gain, I think TL should be asking themselves if they really want to promote PPV-only SC2 events. Does it fall in line with TL's views of the future of SC2? If this somehow ends up working for MLG, other companies will follow this model. Is this something TL wants to be a part of? Can we expect the next TSL to be pay-per-view-only?

I'll stop talking about it now since y'all have obviously already discussed it and came to a different conclusion than I have drawn.


Thanks for the advice, please stop derailing the thread.
KTY
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-24 23:22:04
February 24 2012 23:21 GMT
#210
i deleted my discount code email like a tool, how can i get them to resend ?
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
February 24 2012 23:55 GMT
#211
Sorry if this has been answered, but will replays be made available any time in the near future? So many good zergs, I'd be so happy to get my hands on all the replays :D
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
Soma.bokforlag
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden448 Posts
February 25 2012 00:12 GMT
#212
a varning:

when buying, dont click too quickly, the buy button will dissapear, and then reapperar, wait 10-20 seconds and see what happendes!!

i clicked the button twice because i became confused by the delay

honestly i dont understand why you even can buy two arena passes to the same account.. why would anyone want to do that? :S
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
February 25 2012 00:13 GMT
#213
Something like 2 weeks after the event?
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phalanx
Profile Joined November 2011
France43 Posts
March 24 2012 17:11 GMT
#214
Poll: How do you appreciate the MLG products?

That's a shame, a scam. I want my money back. (4)
 
57%

Super no problem at all, everything works wondefully. (3)
 
43%

Just a few issues but quickly resovled (0)
 
0%

i spend as many time with the support team as watching the tournament. (0)
 
0%

7 total votes

Your vote: How do you appreciate the MLG products?

(Vote): Super no problem at all, everything works wondefully.
(Vote): Just a few issues but quickly resovled
(Vote): i spend as many time with the support team as watching the tournament.
(Vote): That's a shame, a scam. I want my money back.

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