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Criticism is allowed. Undue flaming is not. Take a second to think your post through before you submit.

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Should go without saying, but don't link restreams here either.
Ippo
Profile Joined November 2010
708 Posts
February 13 2012 23:02 GMT
#101
I watch too much Starcraft anyway, so no thanks.

I am a long time Subscriber for ESL TV but i dont feel the need to pay 20$ for 2 days of Starcraft.
CuteZergling
Profile Joined November 2011
641 Posts
February 13 2012 23:02 GMT
#102
On February 14 2012 08:00 1sz2sz3sz wrote:
Lol 20$

What a scam. Ill never pay that much for a 3 day event, I wouldnt even pay a dollar. Should be free


Should be free? I'm not sure how I feel about $20, but to say that the production being delivered, which is coupled with the cost of flying the players out and giving them a monetary reward, should be free is ridiculously childish.
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rewired
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada630 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 23:12:38
February 13 2012 23:02 GMT
#103
-NUKED-

EDIT: Appearantly I'm dumb as hells and ESL offers better prices for year round subscriptions
I blame my lack of knowledge of European scene(aside from dream hack)
The road isn't always straight.
Nortac
Profile Joined April 2011
United States375 Posts
February 13 2012 23:02 GMT
#104
This is the reason I don't watch UFC, everything becomes PPV...
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
February 13 2012 23:02 GMT
#105
Is there any other tournament that literally charges you to watch? GSL is still free if you can stay up, so how can they actually justify this price? This is gonna end up a huge flop and a terrible business move. It's just not worth it. Please explain to me how this tournament is worth 20 dollars in comparison to the other tournaments we've gotten to watch for free in the past.
Logan_ps
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom118 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 23:08:14
February 13 2012 23:02 GMT
#106
Definitely wish MLG all the best testing this model out - if it helps grow eSports by allowing better production values to be realised, then it's fine by me. Have hardly missed any MLG coverage since I got into sc2 - and it's always been of a very decent quality.

Won't pretend not to be disappointed I'll miss the Winter Arena though. I'm disabled and other stuff like good food must take priority for my limited cash. I'll also be more receptive to spending my time viewing other organizations' events - those that have found other more inventive and inclusive ways to monetise. I personally want to see more people viewing SC2 - and i'm not so sure of the benefits, at this early stage in the 'mainstreaming' of eSports, of PPV. Surely it wouldn't make that much difference to their income if they provided a x360 res stream for those of us without cash?
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
February 13 2012 23:02 GMT
#107
I think it's ok, but now the choice of that weekend will bite them where it hurts, as they'll have a direct, free competition.
I don't mind paying for high quality and especially high level players.
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
February 13 2012 23:02 GMT
#108
On February 14 2012 07:58 NewK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 07:57 CuteZergling wrote:
They make a good point though, $20 is twice the cost of a movie, and you are getting 20 hours of entertainment, not 2.

Yeah. But you see, movies aren't filled with ads and you can download movies free from Piratebay if you're short on money.


And be a criminal - You completely shut yourself down there.

Sorry MLG, 20 USD is too much compared to what I can get from GSL

I won't get 20 hours of streams, as I'm in different timezone and I do have other plans during the weekend as well.. Guess the only way I can tell you that it's too much, is to not pay
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
Apollo_Shards
Profile Joined February 2011
1210 Posts
February 13 2012 23:02 GMT
#109
On February 14 2012 07:54 Grumbels wrote:
Please don't let this become a 100 page thread filled with bitter arguments and complaints. :o

I like you!
There now it will only be 99.9 page thread :D
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Kompicek
Profile Joined May 2008
Czech Republic245 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 23:03:47
February 13 2012 23:03 GMT
#110
Too expensive for three day event, just for watching home online. Mlg will loose a LOT of users from the eastern europe.
Not to mention that because of the timezone i can watch more like 9 hours and thats maybe stretching it!
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
February 13 2012 23:03 GMT
#111
20 buck for a 3 day tournament ? At least offer some slimmed down content for less .
xi Tempest x
Profile Joined July 2011
Scotland340 Posts
February 13 2012 23:03 GMT
#112
This is a horrible idea IMO... I am all for charging for HQ streams and VODS, but you have to offer a free alternative otherwise you will get very little growth in sales. GOMTV has proved you can offer a free stream and still get the paying viewers.
feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
February 13 2012 23:03 GMT
#113
Honestly when you lay out the cost of hosting an event of this scale it makes complete sense. Flying in 32 players from around the world, having computers to play on, paying for 32 hotel rooms for 4 or 5 days. That really adds up and 100k seems like a reasonable cost to host just for players and logistics. Throw in MLGs full time staff and it really begins to add up.

Having 5000 people buy a $20 pass is a ton to ask though. Not sure if I want to pony up $20 or not.
Clank
Profile Joined April 2011
United States548 Posts
February 13 2012 23:03 GMT
#114
I sorta like the idea of doing PPV for these arenas. Its pretty much an "extra" event, so its not like we are having free content taken away from us. I hope MLG knocks it out of the park with the production and really makes it a good deal for the $20.

When you think of the price in an esports perspective, its pretty damn expensive, but when you think of it in relation to the "real world", its a pretty good deal for 20 hours of content. Im going to hold out buying it until I can see the little teaser they promised, but I expect that MLG will present a quality product and make the product more than worth price. Hopefully this experiment will be successful and MLG can expand the quality even more so
NewK
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden63 Posts
February 13 2012 23:03 GMT
#115
Is there any info if Ads are being removed with this absurd cost? Not that I have any plans of buying it anyways with Assembly going on but I'd take for granted that with this absurd price for 1 weekend of starcraft streams you'd think you atleast payed away the ads?
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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
February 13 2012 23:03 GMT
#116
On February 14 2012 08:02 JustJonny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 08:00 1sz2sz3sz wrote:
Lol 20$

What a scam. Ill never pay that much for a 3 day event, I wouldnt even pay a dollar. Should be free


i don't understand your mentality at all. totally okay with people being upset that this isn't offered for free, but to call it a 'scam' is ridiculous. MLG is a business.


Dreamhack is one too.
Yet everything is free for viewers.

Th whole " paying is always fine " mentality is not better than " everything should be free ".
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
February 13 2012 23:04 GMT
#117
On February 14 2012 07:59 careohx wrote:
Actually im totally fine with this. I think 20dollar is fine for a great weekend worth of entertainment. I dont know guys but if you want quality, well produced tournaments and esports to grow you need to accept things like this and realize that it is still cheaper than going to watch a movie... I quess this will only be an issue for young people who have no access to a credit card.

Next to my home there are 2 complex that airs hollywood production for 3.5€. There are also 5 art cinemas for 3€, and I know the quality beforehand. If you ask me I'd rather watch Casablanca 5 times for 15€ than watch 20 hours of SC 2 for 20$.
Wrongspeedy
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1655 Posts
February 13 2012 23:04 GMT
#118
I saw PPV and got my hopes up for TV o.o
It is better to be a human dissatisfied than a pig satisfied; better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied.- John Stuart Mill
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
February 13 2012 23:04 GMT
#119
On February 14 2012 08:01 bmml wrote:
Assembly has better players, probably better commentary and its free, is there even the contest MLG?

MLG's Arena players are a lot better. Sundance also made a tweet saying "Tastosis". Don't know if it confirms them for the Arena or not.

Having said that, $20 is too much. I would consider paying if it were $10.
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DrunkenTemplar
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia647 Posts
February 13 2012 23:04 GMT
#120
I'm a gold member and it's kinda lame that this isn't covered under that but I can understand it. But charging the same amount as one months worth of GSL for a 3 day event is really stupid imo. You have an inferior product with less content (no offence Sundance) for the same price. On top of that they do this when there's another big event on at the same time which is free. Bat shit crazy as far as I'm concerned.
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