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ROOTIllusion
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1060 Posts
February 10 2012 12:30 GMT
#941
On February 10 2012 02:25 sVnteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 01:08 Jacobs Ladder wrote:
On February 09 2012 07:41 hunts wrote:
On February 09 2012 07:35 wichenks wrote:
On February 09 2012 07:09 faqqSen wrote:
gz husky for bringing the worst team into the competition


the worst team? I think Vile has every right to compete against those teams. They certainly have a better lineup than It's Gosu.

+ Show Spoiler +
Watch IPL TAC2 vile vs fxo and vile vs dignitas. Then tell me that they don't deserve a spot. Especially in a community poll


Every right to compete against those teams? Yeah let's see how vile vs IM goes lmfao.

Vile 5-1'd Zenex (the same Zenex that all kill'd Rng). They beat MtW and Imba.Fxo. A lot of Vile's players are not top tier, but have to potential to be so. Giving them a chance to play against the best in the world is only good for the scene. Sadly, people like you would rather snottily insist that only pre-established teams should have a chance.

Vile is sick good, people just don't realize it because many members of this community refuses to change an existing opinion.


they beat zenex in a match taht didnt matter at all, imba isnt that strong and mtw didnt have their full roster (both of them are not in this either so how does that matter?)

if you say that vile got chosen because of skill you have to explain why all fxo, aTn and millennium have at least 10 times more achievements than vile

if vile won a qualifier noone would ever complain but if you say the are in there because of their skill you are being unrealistic since that just is not true (look at results of iem sao paulo where their best player got destroyed that is a good example for their current state- they have a loooooooooooooot of potential and in some months im sure that they will be good enough to compete with the best of the best but they just arent ready yet..)

People like you need to shut up and accept the fact a team got in from a vote. It's obvious I was playing in a comfortable environment for the millionth time right? I was also playing to my absolute fullest extent yes? no.
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shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
February 10 2012 13:23 GMT
#942
We have now 4 team leagues : nastl, IPL tac, GSTL and now EGMC..

Why do people want to see the same teams in all of those leagues?

Just be glad there are guys that do this for us and support your favourite teams and leagues.

All this whinning on change teams.. just accept it and support it or STFU..

TEAM X is not here, TEAM Y doesn't deserve because they lost to X.. whine whine whine...

Thank you EG for another league, very nice teams, happy TL finally will be apart of this!
Looking forward for this,, <3 EG, <3 djwheat
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KAmaKAsa
Profile Joined July 2011
Finland210 Posts
February 10 2012 15:00 GMT
#943
all of the top teams wow, shame the format sucks hard though
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10873 Posts
February 10 2012 15:04 GMT
#944
On February 10 2012 22:23 shell wrote:
We have now 4 team leagues : nastl, IPL tac, GSTL and now EGMC..


Which is at least 2 to much (GSTL + one foreign/mixed would be enough).
turamn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1374 Posts
February 10 2012 15:14 GMT
#945
On February 10 2012 02:43 sVnteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 02:32 Bagration wrote:
On February 10 2012 02:25 sVnteen wrote:
On February 10 2012 01:08 Jacobs Ladder wrote:
On February 09 2012 07:41 hunts wrote:
On February 09 2012 07:35 wichenks wrote:
On February 09 2012 07:09 faqqSen wrote:
gz husky for bringing the worst team into the competition


the worst team? I think Vile has every right to compete against those teams. They certainly have a better lineup than It's Gosu.

+ Show Spoiler +
Watch IPL TAC2 vile vs fxo and vile vs dignitas. Then tell me that they don't deserve a spot. Especially in a community poll


Every right to compete against those teams? Yeah let's see how vile vs IM goes lmfao.

Vile 5-1'd Zenex (the same Zenex that all kill'd Rng). They beat MtW and Imba.Fxo. A lot of Vile's players are not top tier, but have to potential to be so. Giving them a chance to play against the best in the world is only good for the scene. Sadly, people like you would rather snottily insist that only pre-established teams should have a chance.

Vile is sick good, people just don't realize it because many members of this community refuses to change an existing opinion.


they beat zenex in a match taht didnt matter at all, imba isnt that strong and mtw didnt have their full roster (both of them are not in this either so how does that matter?)

if you say that vile got chosen because of skill you have to explain why all fxo, aTn and millennium have at least 10 times more achievements than vile

if vile won a qualifier noone would ever complain but if you say the are in there because of their skill you are being unrealistic since that just is not true (look at results of iem sao paulo where their best player got destroyed that is a good example for their current state- they have a loooooooooooooot of potential and in some months im sure that they will be good enough to compete with the best of the best but they just arent ready yet..)


There are 2 parts to it. Vile qualified via community poll, which is important, as the community does have a huge factor in the SC2 pro scene. Vile has also proven itself to be a strong team through the IPL TAC2, able to compete with the best teams in the world. Vile was chosen for a combination of skill and popularity: They are very popular, but they are not a bad team either.

Either way, they have already qualified, and there is no reason for you to belittle them. We complain about the lack of new foreigner talent, and part of the reason is because people do not give up and coming players and teams chances. Give Vile a chance to shine, and if they get utterly wrecked, then maybe you can say they do not belong at the top. But when you start saying that they are bad before the tournament even starts, you are not even giving them a chance, as you try to spread the belief that Vile is inherently inferior and unable to compete. I am not saying that Vile is Slayers or IM caliber, but let's see how they do. They just may surprise you.


how did they prove themselves in ipl tac2?

they qualified against mediocre opponents and they dropped out of WR in the first round...
ok i see that they beat dignitas but sjow select and bischu did not show what they are capable of


im not saying vile is a bad team but just that they didnt really deserve it to get in there
i understand that all the americans voted for vile becuase they are from USA but that is what makes it a really bad idea for EG to do a poll in the first place


How is this even relevant? You can't qualify a performance on that. They win or lose, you don't win or lose with a star next to it and say oh well derp herp didn't play well or derp didnt happen. The fact of the matter is you're just completely off base and can't deal with something because it didn't go your way. Drop it and move on.
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
February 10 2012 15:30 GMT
#946
On February 10 2012 21:30 vileIllusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 02:25 sVnteen wrote:
On February 10 2012 01:08 Jacobs Ladder wrote:
On February 09 2012 07:41 hunts wrote:
On February 09 2012 07:35 wichenks wrote:
On February 09 2012 07:09 faqqSen wrote:
gz husky for bringing the worst team into the competition


the worst team? I think Vile has every right to compete against those teams. They certainly have a better lineup than It's Gosu.

+ Show Spoiler +
Watch IPL TAC2 vile vs fxo and vile vs dignitas. Then tell me that they don't deserve a spot. Especially in a community poll


Every right to compete against those teams? Yeah let's see how vile vs IM goes lmfao.

Vile 5-1'd Zenex (the same Zenex that all kill'd Rng). They beat MtW and Imba.Fxo. A lot of Vile's players are not top tier, but have to potential to be so. Giving them a chance to play against the best in the world is only good for the scene. Sadly, people like you would rather snottily insist that only pre-established teams should have a chance.

Vile is sick good, people just don't realize it because many members of this community refuses to change an existing opinion.


they beat zenex in a match taht didnt matter at all, imba isnt that strong and mtw didnt have their full roster (both of them are not in this either so how does that matter?)

if you say that vile got chosen because of skill you have to explain why all fxo, aTn and millennium have at least 10 times more achievements than vile

if vile won a qualifier noone would ever complain but if you say the are in there because of their skill you are being unrealistic since that just is not true (look at results of iem sao paulo where their best player got destroyed that is a good example for their current state- they have a loooooooooooooot of potential and in some months im sure that they will be good enough to compete with the best of the best but they just arent ready yet..)

People like you need to shut up and accept the fact a team got in from a vote. It's obvious I was playing in a comfortable environment for the millionth time right? I was also playing to my absolute fullest extent yes? no.


As i said in a previous post im sure you have a lot of potential but i dont think you are at the point where you can carry your team through this league as an ace for example

i get that you were nervous and stuff but that will go away when you are more experienced and then you will be able to carry your team but not yet...
MY LIFE STARTS NOW ♥
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
February 10 2012 15:35 GMT
#947
On February 11 2012 00:14 turamn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 02:43 sVnteen wrote:
On February 10 2012 02:32 Bagration wrote:
On February 10 2012 02:25 sVnteen wrote:
On February 10 2012 01:08 Jacobs Ladder wrote:
On February 09 2012 07:41 hunts wrote:
On February 09 2012 07:35 wichenks wrote:
On February 09 2012 07:09 faqqSen wrote:
gz husky for bringing the worst team into the competition


the worst team? I think Vile has every right to compete against those teams. They certainly have a better lineup than It's Gosu.

+ Show Spoiler +
Watch IPL TAC2 vile vs fxo and vile vs dignitas. Then tell me that they don't deserve a spot. Especially in a community poll


Every right to compete against those teams? Yeah let's see how vile vs IM goes lmfao.

Vile 5-1'd Zenex (the same Zenex that all kill'd Rng). They beat MtW and Imba.Fxo. A lot of Vile's players are not top tier, but have to potential to be so. Giving them a chance to play against the best in the world is only good for the scene. Sadly, people like you would rather snottily insist that only pre-established teams should have a chance.

Vile is sick good, people just don't realize it because many members of this community refuses to change an existing opinion.


they beat zenex in a match taht didnt matter at all, imba isnt that strong and mtw didnt have their full roster (both of them are not in this either so how does that matter?)

if you say that vile got chosen because of skill you have to explain why all fxo, aTn and millennium have at least 10 times more achievements than vile

if vile won a qualifier noone would ever complain but if you say the are in there because of their skill you are being unrealistic since that just is not true (look at results of iem sao paulo where their best player got destroyed that is a good example for their current state- they have a loooooooooooooot of potential and in some months im sure that they will be good enough to compete with the best of the best but they just arent ready yet..)


There are 2 parts to it. Vile qualified via community poll, which is important, as the community does have a huge factor in the SC2 pro scene. Vile has also proven itself to be a strong team through the IPL TAC2, able to compete with the best teams in the world. Vile was chosen for a combination of skill and popularity: They are very popular, but they are not a bad team either.

Either way, they have already qualified, and there is no reason for you to belittle them. We complain about the lack of new foreigner talent, and part of the reason is because people do not give up and coming players and teams chances. Give Vile a chance to shine, and if they get utterly wrecked, then maybe you can say they do not belong at the top. But when you start saying that they are bad before the tournament even starts, you are not even giving them a chance, as you try to spread the belief that Vile is inherently inferior and unable to compete. I am not saying that Vile is Slayers or IM caliber, but let's see how they do. They just may surprise you.


how did they prove themselves in ipl tac2?

they qualified against mediocre opponents and they dropped out of WR in the first round...
ok i see that they beat dignitas but sjow select and bischu did not show what they are capable of


im not saying vile is a bad team but just that they didnt really deserve it to get in there
i understand that all the americans voted for vile becuase they are from USA but that is what makes it a really bad idea for EG to do a poll in the first place


How is this even relevant? You can't qualify a performance on that. They win or lose, you don't win or lose with a star next to it and say oh well derp herp didn't play well or derp didnt happen. The fact of the matter is you're just completely off base and can't deal with something because it didn't go your way. Drop it and move on.


i didnt judge them because of their performance i just said that in reply to the other post .....

i didnt go my way .. yes but the thing i'm complaining about is actually not that vile got in (evnthough it kinda is xD) but that EG decided to make a public vote in the first place
i really dont understand the reason behind that
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hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-10 15:43:19
February 10 2012 15:41 GMT
#948
On February 11 2012 00:35 sVnteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 00:14 turamn wrote:
On February 10 2012 02:43 sVnteen wrote:
On February 10 2012 02:32 Bagration wrote:
On February 10 2012 02:25 sVnteen wrote:
On February 10 2012 01:08 Jacobs Ladder wrote:
On February 09 2012 07:41 hunts wrote:
On February 09 2012 07:35 wichenks wrote:
On February 09 2012 07:09 faqqSen wrote:
gz husky for bringing the worst team into the competition


the worst team? I think Vile has every right to compete against those teams. They certainly have a better lineup than It's Gosu.

+ Show Spoiler +
Watch IPL TAC2 vile vs fxo and vile vs dignitas. Then tell me that they don't deserve a spot. Especially in a community poll


Every right to compete against those teams? Yeah let's see how vile vs IM goes lmfao.

Vile 5-1'd Zenex (the same Zenex that all kill'd Rng). They beat MtW and Imba.Fxo. A lot of Vile's players are not top tier, but have to potential to be so. Giving them a chance to play against the best in the world is only good for the scene. Sadly, people like you would rather snottily insist that only pre-established teams should have a chance.

Vile is sick good, people just don't realize it because many members of this community refuses to change an existing opinion.


they beat zenex in a match taht didnt matter at all, imba isnt that strong and mtw didnt have their full roster (both of them are not in this either so how does that matter?)

if you say that vile got chosen because of skill you have to explain why all fxo, aTn and millennium have at least 10 times more achievements than vile

if vile won a qualifier noone would ever complain but if you say the are in there because of their skill you are being unrealistic since that just is not true (look at results of iem sao paulo where their best player got destroyed that is a good example for their current state- they have a loooooooooooooot of potential and in some months im sure that they will be good enough to compete with the best of the best but they just arent ready yet..)


There are 2 parts to it. Vile qualified via community poll, which is important, as the community does have a huge factor in the SC2 pro scene. Vile has also proven itself to be a strong team through the IPL TAC2, able to compete with the best teams in the world. Vile was chosen for a combination of skill and popularity: They are very popular, but they are not a bad team either.

Either way, they have already qualified, and there is no reason for you to belittle them. We complain about the lack of new foreigner talent, and part of the reason is because people do not give up and coming players and teams chances. Give Vile a chance to shine, and if they get utterly wrecked, then maybe you can say they do not belong at the top. But when you start saying that they are bad before the tournament even starts, you are not even giving them a chance, as you try to spread the belief that Vile is inherently inferior and unable to compete. I am not saying that Vile is Slayers or IM caliber, but let's see how they do. They just may surprise you.


how did they prove themselves in ipl tac2?

they qualified against mediocre opponents and they dropped out of WR in the first round...
ok i see that they beat dignitas but sjow select and bischu did not show what they are capable of


im not saying vile is a bad team but just that they didnt really deserve it to get in there
i understand that all the americans voted for vile becuase they are from USA but that is what makes it a really bad idea for EG to do a poll in the first place


How is this even relevant? You can't qualify a performance on that. They win or lose, you don't win or lose with a star next to it and say oh well derp herp didn't play well or derp didnt happen. The fact of the matter is you're just completely off base and can't deal with something because it didn't go your way. Drop it and move on.


i didnt judge them because of their performance i just said that in reply to the other post .....

i didnt go my way .. yes but the thing i'm complaining about is actually not that vile got in (evnthough it kinda is xD) but that EG decided to make a public vote in the first place
i really dont understand the reason behind that


They probably just wanted to see what the TL community had to say, and didn't think of people like husky getting their fans who know nothing of SC2 to spam vote without making accounts. I think the idea for public opinion mattering is pretty cool, but I don't think EG saw this turning out like the russian elections with vile being putin.

At least this time a small team gets their chance. But with how many people are already unhappy with the whole poll thing and vile winning it because of husky, I feel like unless vile does very well this move will actually hurt them rather than gain them more fans.
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sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
February 10 2012 15:53 GMT
#949
On February 11 2012 00:41 hunts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 00:35 sVnteen wrote:
On February 11 2012 00:14 turamn wrote:
On February 10 2012 02:43 sVnteen wrote:
On February 10 2012 02:32 Bagration wrote:
On February 10 2012 02:25 sVnteen wrote:
On February 10 2012 01:08 Jacobs Ladder wrote:
On February 09 2012 07:41 hunts wrote:
On February 09 2012 07:35 wichenks wrote:
On February 09 2012 07:09 faqqSen wrote:
gz husky for bringing the worst team into the competition


the worst team? I think Vile has every right to compete against those teams. They certainly have a better lineup than It's Gosu.

+ Show Spoiler +
Watch IPL TAC2 vile vs fxo and vile vs dignitas. Then tell me that they don't deserve a spot. Especially in a community poll


Every right to compete against those teams? Yeah let's see how vile vs IM goes lmfao.

Vile 5-1'd Zenex (the same Zenex that all kill'd Rng). They beat MtW and Imba.Fxo. A lot of Vile's players are not top tier, but have to potential to be so. Giving them a chance to play against the best in the world is only good for the scene. Sadly, people like you would rather snottily insist that only pre-established teams should have a chance.

Vile is sick good, people just don't realize it because many members of this community refuses to change an existing opinion.


they beat zenex in a match taht didnt matter at all, imba isnt that strong and mtw didnt have their full roster (both of them are not in this either so how does that matter?)

if you say that vile got chosen because of skill you have to explain why all fxo, aTn and millennium have at least 10 times more achievements than vile

if vile won a qualifier noone would ever complain but if you say the are in there because of their skill you are being unrealistic since that just is not true (look at results of iem sao paulo where their best player got destroyed that is a good example for their current state- they have a loooooooooooooot of potential and in some months im sure that they will be good enough to compete with the best of the best but they just arent ready yet..)


There are 2 parts to it. Vile qualified via community poll, which is important, as the community does have a huge factor in the SC2 pro scene. Vile has also proven itself to be a strong team through the IPL TAC2, able to compete with the best teams in the world. Vile was chosen for a combination of skill and popularity: They are very popular, but they are not a bad team either.

Either way, they have already qualified, and there is no reason for you to belittle them. We complain about the lack of new foreigner talent, and part of the reason is because people do not give up and coming players and teams chances. Give Vile a chance to shine, and if they get utterly wrecked, then maybe you can say they do not belong at the top. But when you start saying that they are bad before the tournament even starts, you are not even giving them a chance, as you try to spread the belief that Vile is inherently inferior and unable to compete. I am not saying that Vile is Slayers or IM caliber, but let's see how they do. They just may surprise you.


how did they prove themselves in ipl tac2?

they qualified against mediocre opponents and they dropped out of WR in the first round...
ok i see that they beat dignitas but sjow select and bischu did not show what they are capable of


im not saying vile is a bad team but just that they didnt really deserve it to get in there
i understand that all the americans voted for vile becuase they are from USA but that is what makes it a really bad idea for EG to do a poll in the first place


How is this even relevant? You can't qualify a performance on that. They win or lose, you don't win or lose with a star next to it and say oh well derp herp didn't play well or derp didnt happen. The fact of the matter is you're just completely off base and can't deal with something because it didn't go your way. Drop it and move on.


i didnt judge them because of their performance i just said that in reply to the other post .....

i didnt go my way .. yes but the thing i'm complaining about is actually not that vile got in (evnthough it kinda is xD) but that EG decided to make a public vote in the first place
i really dont understand the reason behind that


They probably just wanted to see what the TL community had to say, and didn't think of people like husky getting their fans who know nothing of SC2 to spam vote without making accounts. I think the idea for public opinion mattering is pretty cool, but I don't think EG saw this turning out like the russian elections with vile being putin.

At least this time a small team gets their chance. But with how many people are already unhappy with the whole poll thing and vile winning it because of husky, I feel like unless vile does very well this move will actually hurt them rather than gain them more fans.


YEA finally someone who understands my point

no srsly.. i didnt even know about the husky thing lol
this is just hilarious since he doesnt even have anything to do with vile (does he?) and even if he did it would still be very unfair by him to use his viewership that largely consists of people who dont care so much about competitiveness (no offense btw) to change the entire result of the voting

and as you said this puts a looooot of pressure on vile and if they dont do well (which is pretty likely considering the lineup) it will actually hurt vile quite a bit (maybe it will be a lesson for some people though)

but lets see how they do first before discussing that right?
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d_dude_abides
Profile Joined February 2012
Croatia2 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-10 17:00:08
February 10 2012 16:57 GMT
#950
On February 11 2012 00:53 sVnteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 00:41 hunts wrote:
On February 11 2012 00:35 sVnteen wrote:
On February 11 2012 00:14 turamn wrote:
On February 10 2012 02:43 sVnteen wrote:
On February 10 2012 02:32 Bagration wrote:
On February 10 2012 02:25 sVnteen wrote:
On February 10 2012 01:08 Jacobs Ladder wrote:
On February 09 2012 07:41 hunts wrote:
On February 09 2012 07:35 wichenks wrote:
[quote]

the worst team? I think Vile has every right to compete against those teams. They certainly have a better lineup than It's Gosu.

+ Show Spoiler +
Watch IPL TAC2 vile vs fxo and vile vs dignitas. Then tell me that they don't deserve a spot. Especially in a community poll


Every right to compete against those teams? Yeah let's see how vile vs IM goes lmfao.

Vile 5-1'd Zenex (the same Zenex that all kill'd Rng). They beat MtW and Imba.Fxo. A lot of Vile's players are not top tier, but have to potential to be so. Giving them a chance to play against the best in the world is only good for the scene. Sadly, people like you would rather snottily insist that only pre-established teams should have a chance.

Vile is sick good, people just don't realize it because many members of this community refuses to change an existing opinion.


they beat zenex in a match taht didnt matter at all, imba isnt that strong and mtw didnt have their full roster (both of them are not in this either so how does that matter?)

if you say that vile got chosen because of skill you have to explain why all fxo, aTn and millennium have at least 10 times more achievements than vile

if vile won a qualifier noone would ever complain but if you say the are in there because of their skill you are being unrealistic since that just is not true (look at results of iem sao paulo where their best player got destroyed that is a good example for their current state- they have a loooooooooooooot of potential and in some months im sure that they will be good enough to compete with the best of the best but they just arent ready yet..)


There are 2 parts to it. Vile qualified via community poll, which is important, as the community does have a huge factor in the SC2 pro scene. Vile has also proven itself to be a strong team through the IPL TAC2, able to compete with the best teams in the world. Vile was chosen for a combination of skill and popularity: They are very popular, but they are not a bad team either.

Either way, they have already qualified, and there is no reason for you to belittle them. We complain about the lack of new foreigner talent, and part of the reason is because people do not give up and coming players and teams chances. Give Vile a chance to shine, and if they get utterly wrecked, then maybe you can say they do not belong at the top. But when you start saying that they are bad before the tournament even starts, you are not even giving them a chance, as you try to spread the belief that Vile is inherently inferior and unable to compete. I am not saying that Vile is Slayers or IM caliber, but let's see how they do. They just may surprise you.


how did they prove themselves in ipl tac2?

they qualified against mediocre opponents and they dropped out of WR in the first round...
ok i see that they beat dignitas but sjow select and bischu did not show what they are capable of


im not saying vile is a bad team but just that they didnt really deserve it to get in there
i understand that all the americans voted for vile becuase they are from USA but that is what makes it a really bad idea for EG to do a poll in the first place


How is this even relevant? You can't qualify a performance on that. They win or lose, you don't win or lose with a star next to it and say oh well derp herp didn't play well or derp didnt happen. The fact of the matter is you're just completely off base and can't deal with something because it didn't go your way. Drop it and move on.


i didnt judge them because of their performance i just said that in reply to the other post .....

i didnt go my way .. yes but the thing i'm complaining about is actually not that vile got in (evnthough it kinda is xD) but that EG decided to make a public vote in the first place
i really dont understand the reason behind that


They probably just wanted to see what the TL community had to say, and didn't think of people like husky getting their fans who know nothing of SC2 to spam vote without making accounts. I think the idea for public opinion mattering is pretty cool, but I don't think EG saw this turning out like the russian elections with vile being putin.

At least this time a small team gets their chance. But with how many people are already unhappy with the whole poll thing and vile winning it because of husky, I feel like unless vile does very well this move will actually hurt them rather than gain them more fans.



...and as you said this puts a looooot of pressure on vile and if they dont do well (which is pretty likely considering the lineup) it will actually hurt vile quite a bit (maybe it will be a lesson for some people though)

but lets see how they do first before discussing that right?


@sVnteen -Yes... let's watch the tournament BEFORE discussing - the only part I agree with, since it seems that you have already made up your mind.

Btw. - making a judgment about a player's skill based on his age? Seriously?... 'cause if that's the case, someone should retire WhiteRa . And even if you are right (I'm open minded) - how the Hell is he supposed to, as you say "gain experience" if he is not given a chance to do so with the "big players"?

As you have stated, EG decided to make a public vote in the first place, and just because you don't understand the reasons behind that, doesn't make it wrong. And if Vile does go down like a whore on a sailor, we (the people who voted for them) won't "learn our lesson", because it's our team and we will always support it, no matter what the result might be - just as you will continue supporting your own.

@hunts - I'm sorry that your team didn't get on the list, man, but don't patronize Vile or their voters by saying that majority of them came here to vote because of Husky, or that they don't know anything about SC2, because that's just ignorant (eg. I don't even watch Husky's channel... so there's that). Many people have already said that if it was about merit, then it should have been FXO, and I agree, even though I voted for Vile. But it was a simple poll... a public poll, and EG probably have very good reasons for doing so.

There will always be those who are unhappy with the results... regarding anything. But that's no reason to BM other contestants or their supporters. Feel free to throw in statistics or provide us with solid arguments, but don't BM.
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halvorg
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Norway717 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-12 00:55:51
February 12 2012 00:54 GMT
#951
Such a shame Vile won the popularity contest, they don't even compare to Millennium. Especially now that they are practicing in a team house.

Regardless of that I will watch it and have fun doing so : )

Edit: I like that Demuslim is replacing PainUser!
luckylefty
Profile Joined November 2010
United States272 Posts
February 12 2012 01:00 GMT
#952
Some of you people are the biggest crybabies ever.


Good luck vile!
Sylfyre
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia222 Posts
February 12 2012 01:27 GMT
#953
To be honest, I was hoping for Vile or Millennium, so I'm happy either way XD gl vile =D =D
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
February 12 2012 01:29 GMT
#954
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aww Ye GO TL ! :D
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
February 12 2012 01:32 GMT
#955
no love for them european teams :/ millenium, aTn, imbaFXO, maybe oGs and we have 16 - wheres teh problem :/
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CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
February 12 2012 01:35 GMT
#956
omg hot I did not realize that Slayers was going to be in this team league lol
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
February 12 2012 01:42 GMT
#957
On February 12 2012 10:29 HeavOnEarth wrote:
[image loading]
aww Ye GO TL ! :D

w00t
This will be awesome, even if the market is saturated right now, it will still be awesome
It's missing Zenex tho :p
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
February 12 2012 01:46 GMT
#958
On February 11 2012 00:00 KAmaKAsa wrote:
all of the top teams wow, shame the format sucks hard though


What the hell are you talking about!?!

4 1v1 BO3s is possibly the best format you can ask for. It is way better than 4 1v1 BO1s like we see in NASTL..
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-12 01:53:53
February 12 2012 01:52 GMT
#959
On February 11 2012 00:30 sVnteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 21:30 vileIllusion wrote:
On February 10 2012 02:25 sVnteen wrote:
On February 10 2012 01:08 Jacobs Ladder wrote:
On February 09 2012 07:41 hunts wrote:
On February 09 2012 07:35 wichenks wrote:
On February 09 2012 07:09 faqqSen wrote:
gz husky for bringing the worst team into the competition


the worst team? I think Vile has every right to compete against those teams. They certainly have a better lineup than It's Gosu.

+ Show Spoiler +
Watch IPL TAC2 vile vs fxo and vile vs dignitas. Then tell me that they don't deserve a spot. Especially in a community poll


Every right to compete against those teams? Yeah let's see how vile vs IM goes lmfao.

Vile 5-1'd Zenex (the same Zenex that all kill'd Rng). They beat MtW and Imba.Fxo. A lot of Vile's players are not top tier, but have to potential to be so. Giving them a chance to play against the best in the world is only good for the scene. Sadly, people like you would rather snottily insist that only pre-established teams should have a chance.

Vile is sick good, people just don't realize it because many members of this community refuses to change an existing opinion.


they beat zenex in a match taht didnt matter at all, imba isnt that strong and mtw didnt have their full roster (both of them are not in this either so how does that matter?)

if you say that vile got chosen because of skill you have to explain why all fxo, aTn and millennium have at least 10 times more achievements than vile

if vile won a qualifier noone would ever complain but if you say the are in there because of their skill you are being unrealistic since that just is not true (look at results of iem sao paulo where their best player got destroyed that is a good example for their current state- they have a loooooooooooooot of potential and in some months im sure that they will be good enough to compete with the best of the best but they just arent ready yet..)

People like you need to shut up and accept the fact a team got in from a vote. It's obvious I was playing in a comfortable environment for the millionth time right? I was also playing to my absolute fullest extent yes? no.


As i said in a previous post im sure you have a lot of potential but i dont think you are at the point where you can carry your team through this league as an ace for example

i get that you were nervous and stuff but that will go away when you are more experienced and then you will be able to carry your team but not yet...


Vile does not rely on a single player to carry the team. It's a team with good depth and a very balanced team. They beat Zenex without playing Illusion, and Hawk and State were able to beat dignitas even when Illusion did not win his match.

If you want to go vent your frustrations that your favorite team was not selected, go do that somewhere else. Not here.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Colbi
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States535 Posts
February 22 2012 01:50 GMT
#960
We've updated the original post to reflect a few team adjustments to the MCSL for the coming season. As of today, both Millenium and aTTaX will be replacing StarTale and Incredible Miracle for the coming seventh season of the MCSL.

While we understand the disappointment many viewers are probably going to be feeling from this last minute alteration, we'd like to acknowledge that this situation resulted from an improper decision by the MCSL. For the sake of transparency, the MCSL did not take the proper secondary measures to ensure the two Korean teams (IM and ST) fully understood both the rules and invitation to the league. Because of this, we are at fault here and would like to express our apology to both of the teams involved in this situation as well as the general public who were anxiously awaiting some exciting matches from the two teams.

With this said, all of the parties involved have acknowledged our mistake, accepted our apology, and have expressed interest in competing in the next MCSL season.

Until then, we hope the community understands this change and is quick to welcome both Millenium and aTTaX as competitors in the Evil Geniuses Master's Cup Series League for Season VII! We feel confident that these two teams will bring thrilling games and unforgettable moments to viewers worldwide.
Editor-in-Chief for Team EG - http://www.twitter.com/LColbi
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