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On January 31 2012 08:06 Linwelin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 08:01 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 08:01 Linwelin wrote:On January 31 2012 07:59 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 07:58 Linwelin wrote:On January 31 2012 07:56 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 07:54 getSome[703] wrote:On January 31 2012 07:50 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 07:49 getSome[703] wrote:On January 31 2012 07:41 Zairair wrote:
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It's would have been more unprofessional to lose the match and die of exhaustion at his keyboard. Is that what you want? Or would you rather him not play in one of his tournaments? Or would you rather him try in both tournaments to get as high as you can!!! Last option please! People are now suggesting that stephano was on the brink of dying from exhaustion from playing starcraft past his bedtime. rofl How long do you think the human body can sustain itself without sleep? I'll tell you if you're right. For longer than 24 hours. Which is much more than stephano would have been awake for assuming he had woken up at a reasonable time. And if he woke up at 1 in the morning the day before two tournaments that would likely go well into the night, it's his fault. Am I right? Yea you're right. But he death the likelihood of death increases as a function of sleep deprivation. So he still could have died or passed out. Stop embarrassing yourself. Do you really think Stephano would have died if he didn't forfeit? How much do you practice? How much does he practice? I really think that he could've. Some people take gaming to the extreme. Are you serious... Try staying up for 24 hours once playing video games. I promise you won't die On January 31 2012 07:59 OzVelas wrote:
Where is the news about LiquidTyler who did the same thing as stephano ? Has already been addressed by Hot_Bid I'm very serious, people stayed up for 5 days playing games before. It gets on the news often for mmos. Yes I know that. Are you saying that Stephano was awake for many days>
I'm saying that if Stephano says he is tired, give him the benefit of the doubt and don't let him play. Let him postpone his match till he is capable of playing.
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On January 31 2012 08:08 Kharnage wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 08:02 Bagration wrote:On January 31 2012 07:59 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 07:58 Linwelin wrote:On January 31 2012 07:56 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 07:54 getSome[703] wrote:On January 31 2012 07:50 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 07:49 getSome[703] wrote:On January 31 2012 07:41 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 07:37 Legio wrote:
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Stephano is the very definition of unprofessional in Esports. He lied to his team and to Col to get a raise from both teams. He isn't investing in Starcraft, instead he is going to quit playing this year to go back to school. He forfeits a finals despite the organizers hard work of putting the event together. Tell me now, is there anyone on the scene that is less professional than this? It's would have been more unprofessional to lose the match and die of exhaustion at his keyboard. Is that what you want? Or would you rather him not play in one of his tournaments? Or would you rather him try in both tournaments to get as high as you can!!! Last option please! People are now suggesting that stephano was on the brink of dying from exhaustion from playing starcraft past his bedtime. rofl How long do you think the human body can sustain itself without sleep? I'll tell you if you're right. For longer than 24 hours. Which is much more than stephano would have been awake for assuming he had woken up at a reasonable time. And if he woke up at 1 in the morning the day before two tournaments that would likely go well into the night, it's his fault. Am I right? Yea you're right. But he death the likelihood of death increases as a function of sleep deprivation. So he still could have died or passed out. Stop embarrassing yourself. Do you really think Stephano would have died if he didn't forfeit? How much do you practice? How much does he practice? I really think that he could've. Some people take gaming to the extreme. Not embarassing anyone. Stephano does not practice that much. It was a long day for him, but I am pretty sure he was not at risk of dying. Try a different argument please. Same day. Twitter from naniwa. "Played 65 ladder games in a row." LIKE A BOSS.
Interesting. I did not know naniwa and stephano were the same person.
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On January 31 2012 08:08 Zairair wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 08:06 Linwelin wrote:On January 31 2012 08:01 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 08:01 Linwelin wrote:On January 31 2012 07:59 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 07:58 Linwelin wrote:On January 31 2012 07:56 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 07:54 getSome[703] wrote:On January 31 2012 07:50 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 07:49 getSome[703] wrote:
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People are now suggesting that stephano was on the brink of dying from exhaustion from playing starcraft past his bedtime.
rofl How long do you think the human body can sustain itself without sleep? I'll tell you if you're right. For longer than 24 hours. Which is much more than stephano would have been awake for assuming he had woken up at a reasonable time. And if he woke up at 1 in the morning the day before two tournaments that would likely go well into the night, it's his fault. Am I right? Yea you're right. But he death the likelihood of death increases as a function of sleep deprivation. So he still could have died or passed out. Stop embarrassing yourself. Do you really think Stephano would have died if he didn't forfeit? How much do you practice? How much does he practice? I really think that he could've. Some people take gaming to the extreme. Are you serious... Try staying up for 24 hours once playing video games. I promise you won't die On January 31 2012 07:59 OzVelas wrote:
Where is the news about LiquidTyler who did the same thing as stephano ? Has already been addressed by Hot_Bid I'm very serious, people stayed up for 5 days playing games before. It gets on the news often for mmos. Yes I know that. Are you saying that Stephano was awake for many days> I'm saying that if Stephano says he is tired, give him the benefit of the doubt and don't let him play. Let him postpone his match till he is capable of playing.
ummmm, no. thats not how tournaments work. you play when it is scheduled, not when you feel like it.
sorry GSL, our team is tired, can we play our final GSTL match next week? fuck no.
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Naniwa refused to play a meaningless match@blizzcup, resulting in a probe rush deluxe. For this he got out of Code S and banned till for a short period of time from GSL.
Stephano refused to play a Grand Finals match, just quitting on the whole tourney. He also was very well aware of the start times of the competitions and the risks of going late into the night, prior to what happened. He also accepted to play 2 competitions on the same day accepting even more risks. I don't see why he is so amazed he received that penalty. It's MORE then welcome for the lack professionalism he showed.
Players once they accept to play in tournaments, even knowing all the risks, should play them till the end. After u play all the matches u can start bad mannering the competition over the internet because of their scheduled hours. How come other players didn't complain..like KAS who stood till 6AM in the morning to finish this game, even stating he was tired. With all these did he ask for even a break? i don't recall...and Stephano even benefited from a break before his match. The organizers moved a match just because he was tired...poor little thing... Do that in a major competition and u will see how fast u are ejected out the window.
It might be ONOG's fault (altho they told players when matches start etc, so they could easily calculate how many h it would take. Even an approximate calculated H would have been enough for Stephano to refuse the invitational from the start.) but the attitude shown is unprofessional. U accepted risks..u play...after THAT u can QQ all u want. ONOG gave Stephano all the fluffy pillows he wanted and still he refused lol.
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On January 31 2012 08:08 Zairair wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 08:06 Linwelin wrote:On January 31 2012 08:01 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 08:01 Linwelin wrote:On January 31 2012 07:59 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 07:58 Linwelin wrote:On January 31 2012 07:56 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 07:54 getSome[703] wrote:On January 31 2012 07:50 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 07:49 getSome[703] wrote:
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People are now suggesting that stephano was on the brink of dying from exhaustion from playing starcraft past his bedtime.
rofl How long do you think the human body can sustain itself without sleep? I'll tell you if you're right. For longer than 24 hours. Which is much more than stephano would have been awake for assuming he had woken up at a reasonable time. And if he woke up at 1 in the morning the day before two tournaments that would likely go well into the night, it's his fault. Am I right? Yea you're right. But he death the likelihood of death increases as a function of sleep deprivation. So he still could have died or passed out. Stop embarrassing yourself. Do you really think Stephano would have died if he didn't forfeit? How much do you practice? How much does he practice? I really think that he could've. Some people take gaming to the extreme. Are you serious... Try staying up for 24 hours once playing video games. I promise you won't die On January 31 2012 07:59 OzVelas wrote:
Where is the news about LiquidTyler who did the same thing as stephano ? Has already been addressed by Hot_Bid I'm very serious, people stayed up for 5 days playing games before. It gets on the news often for mmos. Yes I know that. Are you saying that Stephano was awake for many days> I'm saying that if Stephano says he is tired, give him the benefit of the doubt and don't let him play. Let him postpone his match till he is capable of playing.
The event was organized by BARCRAFTERS, they CANT postpone it. And they already delayed plenty of time for Stephano.
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On January 31 2012 08:08 Zairair wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 08:06 Linwelin wrote:On January 31 2012 08:01 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 08:01 Linwelin wrote:On January 31 2012 07:59 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 07:58 Linwelin wrote:On January 31 2012 07:56 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 07:54 getSome[703] wrote:On January 31 2012 07:50 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 07:49 getSome[703] wrote:
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People are now suggesting that stephano was on the brink of dying from exhaustion from playing starcraft past his bedtime.
rofl How long do you think the human body can sustain itself without sleep? I'll tell you if you're right. For longer than 24 hours. Which is much more than stephano would have been awake for assuming he had woken up at a reasonable time. And if he woke up at 1 in the morning the day before two tournaments that would likely go well into the night, it's his fault. Am I right? Yea you're right. But he death the likelihood of death increases as a function of sleep deprivation. So he still could have died or passed out. Stop embarrassing yourself. Do you really think Stephano would have died if he didn't forfeit? How much do you practice? How much does he practice? I really think that he could've. Some people take gaming to the extreme. Are you serious... Try staying up for 24 hours once playing video games. I promise you won't die On January 31 2012 07:59 OzVelas wrote:
Where is the news about LiquidTyler who did the same thing as stephano ? Has already been addressed by Hot_Bid I'm very serious, people stayed up for 5 days playing games before. It gets on the news often for mmos. Yes I know that. Are you saying that Stephano was awake for many days> I'm saying that if Stephano says he is tired, give him the benefit of the doubt and don't let him play. Let him postpone his match till he is capable of playing.
That's not how tournaments work
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On January 31 2012 08:08 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 08:05 GP wrote:On January 31 2012 07:59 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 07:58 Linwelin wrote:On January 31 2012 07:56 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 07:54 getSome[703] wrote:On January 31 2012 07:50 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 07:49 getSome[703] wrote:On January 31 2012 07:41 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 07:37 Legio wrote:
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Stephano is the very definition of unprofessional in Esports. He lied to his team and to Col to get a raise from both teams. He isn't investing in Starcraft, instead he is going to quit playing this year to go back to school. He forfeits a finals despite the organizers hard work of putting the event together. Tell me now, is there anyone on the scene that is less professional than this? It's would have been more unprofessional to lose the match and die of exhaustion at his keyboard. Is that what you want? Or would you rather him not play in one of his tournaments? Or would you rather him try in both tournaments to get as high as you can!!! Last option please! People are now suggesting that stephano was on the brink of dying from exhaustion from playing starcraft past his bedtime. rofl How long do you think the human body can sustain itself without sleep? I'll tell you if you're right. For longer than 24 hours. Which is much more than stephano would have been awake for assuming he had woken up at a reasonable time. And if he woke up at 1 in the morning the day before two tournaments that would likely go well into the night, it's his fault. Am I right? Yea you're right. But he death the likelihood of death increases as a function of sleep deprivation. So he still could have died or passed out. Stop embarrassing yourself. Do you really think Stephano would have died if he didn't forfeit? How much do you practice? How much does he practice? I really think that he could've. Some people take gaming to the extreme. Not embarassing anyone. I've stayed up five days straight working on finals, and I was fine. He wouldn't have died, it's all on him to schedule his time effectively. If he didn't give himself enough time to sleep the day before, that's his fault. He doesn't have any right to bail on a commitment because he was tired from other tournaments than I had the right to bail on one of my finals because I was tired from working on another final. It seems a lot of people seriously cannot understand from another person's perspective. A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE would not be able to stay up 5 days straight and be fine. Just because you can doesn't mean you can hold others to the same standards and tell them they should be okay.
I'm not holding him to stay up for five days straight, I'm holding him to schedule his time effectively enough to fulfill his end of the commitment. If he didn't schedule his sleep schedule effectively to meet the commitment, tough shit, that's his fault.
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On January 31 2012 08:08 Zairair wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 08:06 Linwelin wrote:On January 31 2012 08:01 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 08:01 Linwelin wrote:On January 31 2012 07:59 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 07:58 Linwelin wrote:On January 31 2012 07:56 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 07:54 getSome[703] wrote:On January 31 2012 07:50 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 07:49 getSome[703] wrote:
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People are now suggesting that stephano was on the brink of dying from exhaustion from playing starcraft past his bedtime.
rofl How long do you think the human body can sustain itself without sleep? I'll tell you if you're right. For longer than 24 hours. Which is much more than stephano would have been awake for assuming he had woken up at a reasonable time. And if he woke up at 1 in the morning the day before two tournaments that would likely go well into the night, it's his fault. Am I right? Yea you're right. But he death the likelihood of death increases as a function of sleep deprivation. So he still could have died or passed out. Stop embarrassing yourself. Do you really think Stephano would have died if he didn't forfeit? How much do you practice? How much does he practice? I really think that he could've. Some people take gaming to the extreme. Are you serious... Try staying up for 24 hours once playing video games. I promise you won't die On January 31 2012 07:59 OzVelas wrote:
Where is the news about LiquidTyler who did the same thing as stephano ? Has already been addressed by Hot_Bid I'm very serious, people stayed up for 5 days playing games before. It gets on the news often for mmos. Yes I know that. Are you saying that Stephano was awake for many days> I'm saying that if Stephano says he is tired, give him the benefit of the doubt and don't let him play. Let him postpone his match till he is capable of playing.
"Hey Mrs. Wablestein, I'm feeling pretty tired, can you postpone my exams, even though I knew they were going to be today and stayed up late anyways?"
"No"
That's how this stuff works. You don't get to have exceptions for yourself when you knew what was going to happen
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overall i think the decision by the president was perfect. yes put the fans first because pro gamers arn't anything if there's are no fan to watch and support them. Stephano still played well so he still get's fourth. Great of catz and illusion to stay and play the extra games. Players fly around the world all the time and are not in the best condition to play but they still try their best. And by the article it seemed that stephano was being rude and demanding instead of trying to come to a mutual solution. Some player's egos are getting too inflamed, for example the mlg incident where some players were being rude to casters/referees. They had that problem in the NBA until refs starting smacking players with technicals at the slightest sign on disrespect.
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Yeah yeah, Stephano shouldn't have forfeit, he's lame, totally different situation from Tyler's forfeiting in the group stages. I agree with all that.
I'm here to make a point. The French jokes aren't racist, they're xenophobic. Unless, of course, everyone in France is now their own race. Which the multiple ethnicities there would probably take offense to.
Also, they're funny. And obviously not meant seriously. The ONG casters obviously not meaning to shit on the entire French country. If we could back off from that non-issue please, that'd be great.
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On January 31 2012 08:09 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 08:08 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 08:06 Linwelin wrote:On January 31 2012 08:01 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 08:01 Linwelin wrote:On January 31 2012 07:59 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 07:58 Linwelin wrote:On January 31 2012 07:56 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 07:54 getSome[703] wrote:On January 31 2012 07:50 Zairair wrote:
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How long do you think the human body can sustain itself without sleep? I'll tell you if you're right. For longer than 24 hours. Which is much more than stephano would have been awake for assuming he had woken up at a reasonable time. And if he woke up at 1 in the morning the day before two tournaments that would likely go well into the night, it's his fault. Am I right? Yea you're right. But he death the likelihood of death increases as a function of sleep deprivation. So he still could have died or passed out. Stop embarrassing yourself. Do you really think Stephano would have died if he didn't forfeit? How much do you practice? How much does he practice? I really think that he could've. Some people take gaming to the extreme. Are you serious... Try staying up for 24 hours once playing video games. I promise you won't die On January 31 2012 07:59 OzVelas wrote:
Where is the news about LiquidTyler who did the same thing as stephano ? Has already been addressed by Hot_Bid I'm very serious, people stayed up for 5 days playing games before. It gets on the news often for mmos. Yes I know that. Are you saying that Stephano was awake for many days> I'm saying that if Stephano says he is tired, give him the benefit of the doubt and don't let him play. Let him postpone his match till he is capable of playing. ummmm, no. thats not how tournaments work. you play when it is scheduled, not when you feel like it. sorry GSL, our team is tired, can we play our final GSTL match next week? fuck no.
That's not in the GTSL rules... It just says they lose and get 2nd place... They don't have to play...
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On January 31 2012 07:45 raiZo wrote:
i cant believe this thread really. blaming stephano for this? blame the caster for blaming and flaming stephano. ONOG can just fix the match to another day, just simple. stephano is getting 4th? thats just a joke, catz the worst player in this planet is getting 3rd and illusion 2nd? oh wow. i´m so pissed right now.
if a player like stephano, who lives in EU have to play 3 AM...ah well nvm. i´m in rage.
stephano is a awesome guy, fail is this community and ONOG, oh i forgot this fail caster.
sorry for my bad english, hope you understand the most of it.
so you didnt quite get it what this is all about...
it was a BARCRAFT EVENT and as their Head just pointed out it rather supports the fans than the players , since they stand for their goals. i do like stephano no doubt , but theres no way you can blame ONOG for their decisions. Its not easy to reschedule a game which is supposed to be played on a barcraft event. You have to think from the hosts point of view. Its much more difficult than you actually can think off.... just sayin'
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On January 31 2012 08:11 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 08:08 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 08:06 Linwelin wrote:On January 31 2012 08:01 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 08:01 Linwelin wrote:On January 31 2012 07:59 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 07:58 Linwelin wrote:On January 31 2012 07:56 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 07:54 getSome[703] wrote:On January 31 2012 07:50 Zairair wrote:
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How long do you think the human body can sustain itself without sleep? I'll tell you if you're right. For longer than 24 hours. Which is much more than stephano would have been awake for assuming he had woken up at a reasonable time. And if he woke up at 1 in the morning the day before two tournaments that would likely go well into the night, it's his fault. Am I right? Yea you're right. But he death the likelihood of death increases as a function of sleep deprivation. So he still could have died or passed out. Stop embarrassing yourself. Do you really think Stephano would have died if he didn't forfeit? How much do you practice? How much does he practice? I really think that he could've. Some people take gaming to the extreme. Are you serious... Try staying up for 24 hours once playing video games. I promise you won't die On January 31 2012 07:59 OzVelas wrote:
Where is the news about LiquidTyler who did the same thing as stephano ? Has already been addressed by Hot_Bid I'm very serious, people stayed up for 5 days playing games before. It gets on the news often for mmos. Yes I know that. Are you saying that Stephano was awake for many days> I'm saying that if Stephano says he is tired, give him the benefit of the doubt and don't let him play. Let him postpone his match till he is capable of playing. "Hey Mrs. Wablestein, I'm feeling pretty tired, can you postpone my exams, even though I knew they were going to be today and stayed up late anyways?" "No" That's how this stuff works. You don't get to have exceptions for yourself when you knew what was going to happen
Analogy circle, here we go.
It'd be more like,
Stephano student: Hey, I finished my exam as much as I could but I got tired/worn out so I turned it in early. Will you accept it?
Professor Onog: Okay, but you won't be getting anything for something that isn't filled out.
Stephano student: Ok, that's what I was expecting.
Of course, there would be benefits for the tournament if they postponed it, while no benefits for the professor.
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On January 31 2012 08:12 Zairair wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 08:09 dAPhREAk wrote:On January 31 2012 08:08 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 08:06 Linwelin wrote:On January 31 2012 08:01 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 08:01 Linwelin wrote:On January 31 2012 07:59 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 07:58 Linwelin wrote:On January 31 2012 07:56 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 07:54 getSome[703] wrote:
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For longer than 24 hours. Which is much more than stephano would have been awake for assuming he had woken up at a reasonable time. And if he woke up at 1 in the morning the day before two tournaments that would likely go well into the night, it's his fault.
Am I right?
Yea you're right. But he death the likelihood of death increases as a function of sleep deprivation. So he still could have died or passed out. Stop embarrassing yourself. Do you really think Stephano would have died if he didn't forfeit? How much do you practice? How much does he practice? I really think that he could've. Some people take gaming to the extreme. Are you serious... Try staying up for 24 hours once playing video games. I promise you won't die On January 31 2012 07:59 OzVelas wrote:
Where is the news about LiquidTyler who did the same thing as stephano ? Has already been addressed by Hot_Bid I'm very serious, people stayed up for 5 days playing games before. It gets on the news often for mmos. Yes I know that. Are you saying that Stephano was awake for many days> I'm saying that if Stephano says he is tired, give him the benefit of the doubt and don't let him play. Let him postpone his match till he is capable of playing. ummmm, no. thats not how tournaments work. you play when it is scheduled, not when you feel like it. sorry GSL, our team is tired, can we play our final GSTL match next week? fuck no. That's not in the GTSL rules... It just says they lose and get 2nd place... They don't have to play...
your logic is all over the place. rick perry and now this
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On January 31 2012 08:12 Zairair wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 08:09 dAPhREAk wrote:On January 31 2012 08:08 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 08:06 Linwelin wrote:On January 31 2012 08:01 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 08:01 Linwelin wrote:On January 31 2012 07:59 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 07:58 Linwelin wrote:On January 31 2012 07:56 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 07:54 getSome[703] wrote:
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For longer than 24 hours. Which is much more than stephano would have been awake for assuming he had woken up at a reasonable time. And if he woke up at 1 in the morning the day before two tournaments that would likely go well into the night, it's his fault.
Am I right?
Yea you're right. But he death the likelihood of death increases as a function of sleep deprivation. So he still could have died or passed out. Stop embarrassing yourself. Do you really think Stephano would have died if he didn't forfeit? How much do you practice? How much does he practice? I really think that he could've. Some people take gaming to the extreme. Are you serious... Try staying up for 24 hours once playing video games. I promise you won't die On January 31 2012 07:59 OzVelas wrote:
Where is the news about LiquidTyler who did the same thing as stephano ? Has already been addressed by Hot_Bid I'm very serious, people stayed up for 5 days playing games before. It gets on the news often for mmos. Yes I know that. Are you saying that Stephano was awake for many days> I'm saying that if Stephano says he is tired, give him the benefit of the doubt and don't let him play. Let him postpone his match till he is capable of playing. ummmm, no. thats not how tournaments work. you play when it is scheduled, not when you feel like it. sorry GSL, our team is tired, can we play our final GSTL match next week? fuck no. That's not in the GTSL rules... It just says they lose and get 2nd place... They don't have to play...
(relevant point) .................
......................................... ......... (what you focus on)
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Man I don't care what happened Steph is still a boss
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On January 31 2012 08:13 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 08:11 1Eris1 wrote:On January 31 2012 08:08 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 08:06 Linwelin wrote:On January 31 2012 08:01 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 08:01 Linwelin wrote:On January 31 2012 07:59 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 07:58 Linwelin wrote:On January 31 2012 07:56 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 07:54 getSome[703] wrote:
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For longer than 24 hours. Which is much more than stephano would have been awake for assuming he had woken up at a reasonable time. And if he woke up at 1 in the morning the day before two tournaments that would likely go well into the night, it's his fault.
Am I right?
Yea you're right. But he death the likelihood of death increases as a function of sleep deprivation. So he still could have died or passed out. Stop embarrassing yourself. Do you really think Stephano would have died if he didn't forfeit? How much do you practice? How much does he practice? I really think that he could've. Some people take gaming to the extreme. Are you serious... Try staying up for 24 hours once playing video games. I promise you won't die On January 31 2012 07:59 OzVelas wrote:
Where is the news about LiquidTyler who did the same thing as stephano ? Has already been addressed by Hot_Bid I'm very serious, people stayed up for 5 days playing games before. It gets on the news often for mmos. Yes I know that. Are you saying that Stephano was awake for many days> I'm saying that if Stephano says he is tired, give him the benefit of the doubt and don't let him play. Let him postpone his match till he is capable of playing. "Hey Mrs. Wablestein, I'm feeling pretty tired, can you postpone my exams, even though I knew they were going to be today and stayed up late anyways?" "No" That's how this stuff works. You don't get to have exceptions for yourself when you knew what was going to happen Analogy circle, here we go. It'd be more like, Stephano student: Hey, I finished my exam as much as I could but I got tired/worn out so I turned it in early. Will you accept it? Professor: Okay, but you won't be getting anything for something that isn't filled out. Stephano student: Ok, that's what I was expecting.
I was making a general relation, but yes that is the jist of it.
Why people are still arguing about it when Stephano is fine with it is beyond me.
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On January 31 2012 08:13 iky43210 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 08:12 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 08:09 dAPhREAk wrote:On January 31 2012 08:08 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 08:06 Linwelin wrote:On January 31 2012 08:01 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 08:01 Linwelin wrote:On January 31 2012 07:59 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 07:58 Linwelin wrote:On January 31 2012 07:56 Zairair wrote:
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Yea you're right. But he death the likelihood of death increases as a function of sleep deprivation. So he still could have died or passed out.
Stop embarrassing yourself. Do you really think Stephano would have died if he didn't forfeit? How much do you practice? How much does he practice? I really think that he could've. Some people take gaming to the extreme. Are you serious... Try staying up for 24 hours once playing video games. I promise you won't die On January 31 2012 07:59 OzVelas wrote:
Where is the news about LiquidTyler who did the same thing as stephano ? Has already been addressed by Hot_Bid I'm very serious, people stayed up for 5 days playing games before. It gets on the news often for mmos. Yes I know that. Are you saying that Stephano was awake for many days> I'm saying that if Stephano says he is tired, give him the benefit of the doubt and don't let him play. Let him postpone his match till he is capable of playing. ummmm, no. thats not how tournaments work. you play when it is scheduled, not when you feel like it. sorry GSL, our team is tired, can we play our final GSTL match next week? fuck no. That's not in the GTSL rules... It just says they lose and get 2nd place... They don't have to play... your logic is all over the place. rick perry and now this
It's fine if logic goes on tangents, it's like a sub-proof. They eventually point to the same conclusion.
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On January 31 2012 08:11 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 08:08 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 08:06 Linwelin wrote:On January 31 2012 08:01 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 08:01 Linwelin wrote:On January 31 2012 07:59 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 07:58 Linwelin wrote:On January 31 2012 07:56 Zairair wrote:On January 31 2012 07:54 getSome[703] wrote:On January 31 2012 07:50 Zairair wrote:
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How long do you think the human body can sustain itself without sleep? I'll tell you if you're right. For longer than 24 hours. Which is much more than stephano would have been awake for assuming he had woken up at a reasonable time. And if he woke up at 1 in the morning the day before two tournaments that would likely go well into the night, it's his fault. Am I right? Yea you're right. But he death the likelihood of death increases as a function of sleep deprivation. So he still could have died or passed out. Stop embarrassing yourself. Do you really think Stephano would have died if he didn't forfeit? How much do you practice? How much does he practice? I really think that he could've. Some people take gaming to the extreme. Are you serious... Try staying up for 24 hours once playing video games. I promise you won't die On January 31 2012 07:59 OzVelas wrote:
Where is the news about LiquidTyler who did the same thing as stephano ? Has already been addressed by Hot_Bid I'm very serious, people stayed up for 5 days playing games before. It gets on the news often for mmos. Yes I know that. Are you saying that Stephano was awake for many days> I'm saying that if Stephano says he is tired, give him the benefit of the doubt and don't let him play. Let him postpone his match till he is capable of playing. "Hey Mrs. Wablestein, I'm feeling pretty tired, can you postpone my exams, even though I knew they were going to be today and stayed up late anyways?" "No" That's how this stuff works. You don't get to have exceptions for yourself when you knew what was going to happen
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hahah, would have been hard for ONOG to explain how Stephano passed out right at the spot and died of exhaustion because he was forced to play, while drooling all over his keyboard and sending his last will to MoMan, for him to lead the french juggernaut of SC2 domination.
On a more serious note, I didn't watch anything of the tournament but I think the organizers and Stephano himself handled it well. From what I heard there was a lot of unnecessary waiting time beforehand (caused by Stephano), stuff like that should be fixed and handled more harshly for the next time imo (with a proper rule set and guidelines, if someone is unexcused 15-20 minutes late for a match its auto forfeit or something like that). But if a player wants to forfeit he should be able to do so in an online tournament (with all the consequences from his fans and his team because of his lack of professionality), if he doesn't want to play the finals it is the best for everyone if someone else gets the spot, so it is kind of reasonable to rank him down to 4th place and there is no clear loser in the scenario that happened. He couldn't complain if he got disqualified though, so he can thank the responsible persons for his 4th rank. 
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