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Updated mod note with feedback from Blizzard in the OP.
Bulkers
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland509 Posts
February 09 2012 22:31 GMT
#161
On February 10 2012 07:24 Bareleon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 07:21 Bulkers wrote:
"The company's first quarter 2012 outlook does not incorporate a new release from Blizzard Entertainment, but its calendar year 2012 outlook anticipates AT LEAST two releases from Blizzard Entertainment"

Diablo 3 - Target Q2 (lol!)
WoW:MoP - Summer 2012

That means there is very high chance that HoTS will NOT be released this year, beta will probably last for 3-4 months then ~2 month break between end of beta and release, and beta wont start before WoW:MoP beta ends (around May-June), so easy math and if they doesn't have any delays (it Blizzard ofc they will lol) then it should be released in December, otherwise 2013.


You are just guessing. According to a blizz guy on twitter, MoP is far from release.


I just analyze what he said, "at least" two releases in 2012 are indicating that HoTS might not be released in 2012.
ProxySilmaril
Profile Joined June 2011
81 Posts
February 09 2012 22:32 GMT
#162
The Idea that HotS beta will come soon keeps me to play SC2
NewK
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden63 Posts
February 09 2012 22:32 GMT
#163
I missed the beginning. Did they ever mention how many subs they lost in WoW the final quarter of 2011?
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Bareleon
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
371 Posts
February 09 2012 22:33 GMT
#164
On February 10 2012 07:28 dsousa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 07:26 Teddyman wrote:
It's kind of baffling how people think HotS will take at least 1 year more than their 18 months estimate but fully believe that a WoW expansion can't take more than 18 months because years ago they said they would like to release those that often.


They don't want to release an expansion of SC2 yet. They have chosen to let the existing balance survive for longer while trying to grow esports with SC2.

I think its good for the SC2 esports scene.... because an expansion will only mess up a good thing. Why rush it.


HoTS WILL grow esports and I doubt the pros will switch over right away, they wanna finish up any tournys or upcoming tourneys for WoL first. So because of that, they should release it in 2012. And DB said by April 2012 (well, he said in March 2011, the development should be done in a year) it should be pretty much done
JBrown08
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada306 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 22:57:54
February 09 2012 22:34 GMT
#165
On February 10 2012 07:11 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 07:10 CuteZergling wrote:
Can someone clarify the timeframe of Quarter 2 please?


April - June I believ? Q1 should be jan - march, Q2 should be april - june, Q3 should be july - september with Q4 being october - december unless I am mistaken.



Sorry to burst everyones bubble but are they not referring to the fiscal year of 2012 in these conference calls? And as far as I know the fiscal calender starts in March. So fiscally speaking Q1 is March - May and Q2 is June-August.
Bareleon
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
371 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 22:35:54
February 09 2012 22:35 GMT
#166
On February 10 2012 07:31 Bulkers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 07:24 Bareleon wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:21 Bulkers wrote:
"The company's first quarter 2012 outlook does not incorporate a new release from Blizzard Entertainment, but its calendar year 2012 outlook anticipates AT LEAST two releases from Blizzard Entertainment"

Diablo 3 - Target Q2 (lol!)
WoW:MoP - Summer 2012

That means there is very high chance that HoTS will NOT be released this year, beta will probably last for 3-4 months then ~2 month break between end of beta and release, and beta wont start before WoW:MoP beta ends (around May-June), so easy math and if they doesn't have any delays (it Blizzard ofc they will lol) then it should be released in December, otherwise 2013.


You are just guessing. According to a blizz guy on twitter, MoP is far from release.


I just analyze what he said, "at least" two releases in 2012 are indicating that HoTS might not be released in 2012.


I highly doubt they will count dota as a one of the two releases. So I am still banking on 2012 for hots. And I doubt we will get dota free in a patch with WoL, we will more than likely have to pay for hots to play dota. So it will be released with hots is what I am guessing.
Teddyman
Profile Joined October 2008
Finland362 Posts
February 09 2012 22:36 GMT
#167
On February 10 2012 07:29 Jetaap wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 07:26 Teddyman wrote:
It's kind of baffling how people think HotS will take at least 1 year more than their 18 months estimate but fully believe that a WoW expansion can't take more than 18 months because years ago they said they would like to release those that often.

The difference is that WoW represents a LOT more money for blizzard than sc2, and is reaching the end of its life cycle, so they have much more incentive to keep people playing for a little while.

EQ is going free to play this month after 13 years as a subscription MMO. EQ never had even a tenth of the players WoW has so I'd expect WoW to keep bringing in the money until 2020. The "closest competitor", SWTOR, sold 2M and now the server load is about half of what it was back at launch so that can't be taking too many subs any more.
"Chess is a dead game" -Bobby Fischer 2004
slytown
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)1411 Posts
February 09 2012 22:36 GMT
#168
I hope there's a lot of yelling at Activision for tanking their franchises.
The best Flash meme ever: http://imgur.com/zquoK
Bulkers
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland509 Posts
February 09 2012 22:38 GMT
#169
On February 10 2012 07:35 Bareleon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 07:31 Bulkers wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:24 Bareleon wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:21 Bulkers wrote:
"The company's first quarter 2012 outlook does not incorporate a new release from Blizzard Entertainment, but its calendar year 2012 outlook anticipates AT LEAST two releases from Blizzard Entertainment"

Diablo 3 - Target Q2 (lol!)
WoW:MoP - Summer 2012

That means there is very high chance that HoTS will NOT be released this year, beta will probably last for 3-4 months then ~2 month break between end of beta and release, and beta wont start before WoW:MoP beta ends (around May-June), so easy math and if they doesn't have any delays (it Blizzard ofc they will lol) then it should be released in December, otherwise 2013.


You are just guessing. According to a blizz guy on twitter, MoP is far from release.


I just analyze what he said, "at least" two releases in 2012 are indicating that HoTS might not be released in 2012.


I highly doubt they will count dota as a one of the two releases. So I am still banking on 2012 for hots. And I doubt we will get dota free in a patch with WoL, we will more than likely have to pay for hots to play dota. So it will be released with hots is what I am guessing.


2 releases are Diablo 3 and WoW:MoP
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
February 09 2012 22:39 GMT
#170
On February 10 2012 07:36 Teddyman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 07:29 Jetaap wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:26 Teddyman wrote:
It's kind of baffling how people think HotS will take at least 1 year more than their 18 months estimate but fully believe that a WoW expansion can't take more than 18 months because years ago they said they would like to release those that often.

The difference is that WoW represents a LOT more money for blizzard than sc2, and is reaching the end of its life cycle, so they have much more incentive to keep people playing for a little while.

EQ is going free to play this month after 13 years as a subscription MMO. EQ never had even a tenth of the players WoW has so I'd expect WoW to keep bringing in the money until 2020. The "closest competitor", SWTOR, sold 2M and now the server load is about half of what it was back at launch so that can't be taking too many subs any more.

perfectly said i got swtor played the free month loved the game but just lost my interest somehow
Most Skilled Current esport Games Scbw>Sc2>Cs1.6>Dota2>Hon>Loopin Louie The Drinking Game>LoL
Bareleon
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
371 Posts
February 09 2012 22:39 GMT
#171
On February 10 2012 07:38 Bulkers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 07:35 Bareleon wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:31 Bulkers wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:24 Bareleon wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:21 Bulkers wrote:
"The company's first quarter 2012 outlook does not incorporate a new release from Blizzard Entertainment, but its calendar year 2012 outlook anticipates AT LEAST two releases from Blizzard Entertainment"

Diablo 3 - Target Q2 (lol!)
WoW:MoP - Summer 2012

That means there is very high chance that HoTS will NOT be released this year, beta will probably last for 3-4 months then ~2 month break between end of beta and release, and beta wont start before WoW:MoP beta ends (around May-June), so easy math and if they doesn't have any delays (it Blizzard ofc they will lol) then it should be released in December, otherwise 2013.


You are just guessing. According to a blizz guy on twitter, MoP is far from release.


I just analyze what he said, "at least" two releases in 2012 are indicating that HoTS might not be released in 2012.


I highly doubt they will count dota as a one of the two releases. So I am still banking on 2012 for hots. And I doubt we will get dota free in a patch with WoL, we will more than likely have to pay for hots to play dota. So it will be released with hots is what I am guessing.


2 releases are Diablo 3 and WoW:MoP


I know you really want your MoP but I read from a blizz guy on twitter that it is far from release.
ProxySilmaril
Profile Joined June 2011
81 Posts
February 09 2012 22:40 GMT
#172
who needs WoW.. waste of time
Zarjax
Profile Joined September 2010
United States44 Posts
February 09 2012 22:42 GMT
#173
On February 10 2012 07:38 Bulkers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 07:35 Bareleon wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:31 Bulkers wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:24 Bareleon wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:21 Bulkers wrote:
"The company's first quarter 2012 outlook does not incorporate a new release from Blizzard Entertainment, but its calendar year 2012 outlook anticipates AT LEAST two releases from Blizzard Entertainment"

Diablo 3 - Target Q2 (lol!)
WoW:MoP - Summer 2012

That means there is very high chance that HoTS will NOT be released this year, beta will probably last for 3-4 months then ~2 month break between end of beta and release, and beta wont start before WoW:MoP beta ends (around May-June), so easy math and if they doesn't have any delays (it Blizzard ofc they will lol) then it should be released in December, otherwise 2013.


You are just guessing. According to a blizz guy on twitter, MoP is far from release.


I just analyze what he said, "at least" two releases in 2012 are indicating that HoTS might not be released in 2012.


I highly doubt they will count dota as a one of the two releases. So I am still banking on 2012 for hots. And I doubt we will get dota free in a patch with WoL, we will more than likely have to pay for hots to play dota. So it will be released with hots is what I am guessing.


2 releases are Diablo 3 and WoW:MoP


You are taking your own speculation as fact without any support of your statement.

Cool story bro.
Obbalord
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany166 Posts
February 09 2012 22:44 GMT
#174
no way mop comes before Hots, why u guys think that?

D3 then Hots then MoP
CuteZergling
Profile Joined November 2011
641 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 22:44:23
February 09 2012 22:44 GMT
#175
On February 10 2012 07:40 ProxySilmaril wrote:
who needs WoW.. waste of time



10 million subscribers disagree. Anyways, keep your aggressive opinions to yourself.
Team owner of team QTLing
reDicE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1020 Posts
February 09 2012 22:47 GMT
#176
I'm pretty sure they said they'll have more information about HotS in the coming months--not in a month.
acrimoneyius
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States983 Posts
February 09 2012 22:47 GMT
#177
On February 10 2012 07:44 CuteZergling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 07:40 ProxySilmaril wrote:
who needs WoW.. waste of time



10 million subscribers disagree. Anyways, keep your aggressive opinions to yourself.


Suddenly being blunt = aggressive? Everyone is entitled to an opinion.
Bulkers
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland509 Posts
February 09 2012 22:49 GMT
#178
On February 10 2012 07:39 Bareleon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 07:38 Bulkers wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:35 Bareleon wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:31 Bulkers wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:24 Bareleon wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:21 Bulkers wrote:
"The company's first quarter 2012 outlook does not incorporate a new release from Blizzard Entertainment, but its calendar year 2012 outlook anticipates AT LEAST two releases from Blizzard Entertainment"

Diablo 3 - Target Q2 (lol!)
WoW:MoP - Summer 2012

That means there is very high chance that HoTS will NOT be released this year, beta will probably last for 3-4 months then ~2 month break between end of beta and release, and beta wont start before WoW:MoP beta ends (around May-June), so easy math and if they doesn't have any delays (it Blizzard ofc they will lol) then it should be released in December, otherwise 2013.


You are just guessing. According to a blizz guy on twitter, MoP is far from release.


I just analyze what he said, "at least" two releases in 2012 are indicating that HoTS might not be released in 2012.


I highly doubt they will count dota as a one of the two releases. So I am still banking on 2012 for hots. And I doubt we will get dota free in a patch with WoL, we will more than likely have to pay for hots to play dota. So it will be released with hots is what I am guessing.


2 releases are Diablo 3 and WoW:MoP


I know you really want your MoP but I read from a blizz guy on twitter that it is far from release.


Oh a guy on twitter said something, ye thats better source of information than Blizzard Conference... and btw I dont play WoW
godly-cheese
Profile Joined November 2011
United States67 Posts
February 09 2012 22:58 GMT
#179
On February 10 2012 07:49 Bulkers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 07:39 Bareleon wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:38 Bulkers wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:35 Bareleon wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:31 Bulkers wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:24 Bareleon wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:21 Bulkers wrote:
"The company's first quarter 2012 outlook does not incorporate a new release from Blizzard Entertainment, but its calendar year 2012 outlook anticipates AT LEAST two releases from Blizzard Entertainment"

Diablo 3 - Target Q2 (lol!)
WoW:MoP - Summer 2012

That means there is very high chance that HoTS will NOT be released this year, beta will probably last for 3-4 months then ~2 month break between end of beta and release, and beta wont start before WoW:MoP beta ends (around May-June), so easy math and if they doesn't have any delays (it Blizzard ofc they will lol) then it should be released in December, otherwise 2013.


You are just guessing. According to a blizz guy on twitter, MoP is far from release.


I just analyze what he said, "at least" two releases in 2012 are indicating that HoTS might not be released in 2012.


I highly doubt they will count dota as a one of the two releases. So I am still banking on 2012 for hots. And I doubt we will get dota free in a patch with WoL, we will more than likely have to pay for hots to play dota. So it will be released with hots is what I am guessing.


2 releases are Diablo 3 and WoW:MoP


I know you really want your MoP but I read from a blizz guy on twitter that it is far from release.


Oh a guy on twitter said something, ye thats better source of information than Blizzard Conference... and btw I dont play WoW


Link to the tweet?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
CuteZergling
Profile Joined November 2011
641 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 23:00:07
February 09 2012 22:59 GMT
#180
On February 10 2012 07:47 acrimoneyius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 07:44 CuteZergling wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:40 ProxySilmaril wrote:
who needs WoW.. waste of time



10 million subscribers disagree. Anyways, keep your aggressive opinions to yourself.


Suddenly being blunt = aggressive? Everyone is entitled to an opinion.


In this case, what he said was unwarranted and irrelevant to the conversation at hand. Thus his opinion is being presented in an aggressive manner. No one here was discussing the quality of WoW as this thread is not for discussing the quality of WoW. He is of course entitled to his opinion but this was not the place for it.

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