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Axslav and Strifecro part ways with EG - Page 46

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Sylailene
Profile Joined February 2011
91 Posts
January 20 2012 21:04 GMT
#901
On January 21 2012 05:35 andeh wrote:
Anyone who says lzgamer should be cut too does not know how good he was at bw

Being good at bw means nothing if he isn't posting the results in sc2
Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
January 20 2012 21:05 GMT
#902
On January 21 2012 05:35 andeh wrote:
Anyone who says lzgamer should be cut too does not know how good he was at bw


lzgamer was not that great at BW.

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SC2NeCro
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada507 Posts
January 20 2012 21:10 GMT
#903
On January 21 2012 05:35 andeh wrote:
Anyone who says lzgamer should be cut too does not know how good he was at bw


This is entirely irrelevant.

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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
January 20 2012 21:13 GMT
#904
On January 21 2012 04:57 SC2NeCro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 04:53 corpuscle wrote:
On January 21 2012 04:51 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:

Suppose a situation came up in which EG had to decide whether to keep Incontrol or Idra/Huk. Do you really think EG would keep Incontrol over either of those two? So no, he's not as valuable to EG compared to those two.


I agree that they wouldn't keep Geoff over IdrA or HuK, but I doubt Greg or Chris would want to be on a team with only the two of them, and I think that EG would cut literally everyone else on the roster before Geoff.


EG wouldn't cut Puma, JYP before Incontrol. That's ludicrous to suggest. He does stuff for the community, but it's not as compelling as strong tournament results. EG aren't the ambassadors of SC2, they are a top-level team that was made with the intention to compete.

EG would easily cut Puma and JYP before InControl (not saying that it will happen, but if the choice was on the table). One of the major reasons why EG even has money to hire big name players is because of the level of community and sponsorship work that InControl does to get eyes on the organization.

Puma and JYP are easily the better players, by an uncomparable margin, but InControl is easily the bigger money maker for EG.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
January 20 2012 21:21 GMT
#905
On January 21 2012 06:13 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 04:57 SC2NeCro wrote:
On January 21 2012 04:53 corpuscle wrote:
On January 21 2012 04:51 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:

Suppose a situation came up in which EG had to decide whether to keep Incontrol or Idra/Huk. Do you really think EG would keep Incontrol over either of those two? So no, he's not as valuable to EG compared to those two.


I agree that they wouldn't keep Geoff over IdrA or HuK, but I doubt Greg or Chris would want to be on a team with only the two of them, and I think that EG would cut literally everyone else on the roster before Geoff.


EG wouldn't cut Puma, JYP before Incontrol. That's ludicrous to suggest. He does stuff for the community, but it's not as compelling as strong tournament results. EG aren't the ambassadors of SC2, they are a top-level team that was made with the intention to compete.

EG would easily cut Puma and JYP before InControl (not saying that it will happen, but if the choice was on the table). One of the major reasons why EG even has money to hire big name players is because of the level of community and sponsorship work that InControl does to get eyes on the organization.

Puma and JYP are easily the better players, by an uncomparable margin, but InControl is easily the bigger money maker for EG.


I'd guess IdrA would be a bigger money maker.
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
January 20 2012 22:33 GMT
#906
Lz is becoming more and more active within the community. Hes streaming more consistently and more importantly he did some casting work for NASL. If he returns for season 3 than thats great exposure for EG.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
January 20 2012 23:13 GMT
#907
On January 21 2012 06:13 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 04:57 SC2NeCro wrote:
On January 21 2012 04:53 corpuscle wrote:
On January 21 2012 04:51 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:

Suppose a situation came up in which EG had to decide whether to keep Incontrol or Idra/Huk. Do you really think EG would keep Incontrol over either of those two? So no, he's not as valuable to EG compared to those two.


I agree that they wouldn't keep Geoff over IdrA or HuK, but I doubt Greg or Chris would want to be on a team with only the two of them, and I think that EG would cut literally everyone else on the roster before Geoff.


EG wouldn't cut Puma, JYP before Incontrol. That's ludicrous to suggest. He does stuff for the community, but it's not as compelling as strong tournament results. EG aren't the ambassadors of SC2, they are a top-level team that was made with the intention to compete.

EG would easily cut Puma and JYP before InControl (not saying that it will happen, but if the choice was on the table). One of the major reasons why EG even has money to hire big name players is because of the level of community and sponsorship work that InControl does to get eyes on the organization.

Puma and JYP are easily the better players, by an uncomparable margin, but InControl is easily the bigger money maker for EG.


this is actually true imo

EG is just going to buy some other koreans now anyway
just results so that they can say that they are the best team and if they are not achieving just dump them

wonder why everyone was so upset when carn was released by eSahara for not posting results AND BEING UNMOTIVATED and when EG breaks up with 2 long time members eventhough they (or at least axlav) have some results to show at least AND ARE MOTIVATED (i would guess so at least from what ive heard) its just kinda funny how this forums sometimes work out
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Oniobn
Profile Joined May 2010
United States15 Posts
January 21 2012 03:18 GMT
#908
Axslav was by far my favorite player to meet at MLG.

Best of luck to him in the future!
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
January 21 2012 03:22 GMT
#909
On January 21 2012 06:13 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 04:57 SC2NeCro wrote:
On January 21 2012 04:53 corpuscle wrote:
On January 21 2012 04:51 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:

Suppose a situation came up in which EG had to decide whether to keep Incontrol or Idra/Huk. Do you really think EG would keep Incontrol over either of those two? So no, he's not as valuable to EG compared to those two.


I agree that they wouldn't keep Geoff over IdrA or HuK, but I doubt Greg or Chris would want to be on a team with only the two of them, and I think that EG would cut literally everyone else on the roster before Geoff.


EG wouldn't cut Puma, JYP before Incontrol. That's ludicrous to suggest. He does stuff for the community, but it's not as compelling as strong tournament results. EG aren't the ambassadors of SC2, they are a top-level team that was made with the intention to compete.

EG would easily cut Puma and JYP before InControl (not saying that it will happen, but if the choice was on the table). One of the major reasons why EG even has money to hire big name players is because of the level of community and sponsorship work that InControl does to get eyes on the organization.

Puma and JYP are easily the better players, by an uncomparable margin, but InControl is easily the bigger money maker for EG.


Solid post.

Ideally you want to keep all the guys mentioned because they all bring something different to the party but there's no denying that Incontrol is a big part EG's past, present and future.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
January 21 2012 03:29 GMT
#910
On January 19 2012 08:54 VPVanek wrote:
Kind of tired of EG, they kick off players they have no more use for.


the funny thing is its best for BOTH parties, like incontrol said axslav and strifecro were worth more than what eg was giving them and its simply not feasable for EG to keep them at to moment so a new team will give them what they are worth
darkscream
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2310 Posts
January 21 2012 03:33 GMT
#911
On January 21 2012 07:33 Angelbelow wrote:
Lz is becoming more and more active within the community. Hes streaming more consistently and more importantly he did some casting work for NASL. If he returns for season 3 than thats great exposure for EG.


LZ was very big during beta/early release in terms of streaming. This was before we got a lot of the ladder heroes we follow today.
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
January 21 2012 03:39 GMT
#912
On January 21 2012 05:35 andeh wrote:
Anyone who says lzgamer should be cut too does not know how good he was at bw


Let's have a looksee: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/international/players/1130_LzGaMeR
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
Lavit2099
Profile Joined November 2011
United States390 Posts
January 21 2012 07:06 GMT
#913
LZ doesn't live at the house, the way Axslav and Strife did. Therefore, he doesn't "cost" as much. I know what Scoots said on Lo3 this past Wednesday and it makes sense. EG couldn't dedicate the money needed for two great up and coming players. I would honestly be shocked if they get any new players that live at the lair. Those two weren't cut or released or fired. Their contracts were not renewed. It happens, but I know they both will bounce back!
SEA KarMa
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia452 Posts
January 21 2012 07:37 GMT
#914
dont think they were good enough to bear the EG title. they didnt perform up to par with what EG expects.
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ChrysaliS_
Profile Joined January 2011
United States261 Posts
January 21 2012 07:41 GMT
#915
So at this point only Demuslim, Machine, and iNcontroL are living at the EG house with Demuslim and iNc potentially going to Korea sooner or later? Seems a bit silly to me.
Chrysalis.145
-Cyrus-
Profile Joined June 2011
United States318 Posts
January 21 2012 10:30 GMT
#916
On January 21 2012 06:13 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 04:57 SC2NeCro wrote:
On January 21 2012 04:53 corpuscle wrote:
On January 21 2012 04:51 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:

Suppose a situation came up in which EG had to decide whether to keep Incontrol or Idra/Huk. Do you really think EG would keep Incontrol over either of those two? So no, he's not as valuable to EG compared to those two.


I agree that they wouldn't keep Geoff over IdrA or HuK, but I doubt Greg or Chris would want to be on a team with only the two of them, and I think that EG would cut literally everyone else on the roster before Geoff.


EG wouldn't cut Puma, JYP before Incontrol. That's ludicrous to suggest. He does stuff for the community, but it's not as compelling as strong tournament results. EG aren't the ambassadors of SC2, they are a top-level team that was made with the intention to compete.

EG would easily cut Puma and JYP before InControl (not saying that it will happen, but if the choice was on the table). One of the major reasons why EG even has money to hire big name players is because of the level of community and sponsorship work that InControl does to get eyes on the organization.

Puma and JYP are easily the better players, by an uncomparable margin, but InControl is easily the bigger money maker for EG.


Very well said.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 21 2012 10:37 GMT
#917
Everyone forgets to mention that LZgamer is a sexy beast, and that alone should be the only reason to keep him on EG. Everything else is a bonus.
liftlift > tsm
EUNiNJA
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden8 Posts
January 21 2012 12:04 GMT
#918
im not really suprised :-/

gl to axslav and strifecro tho <3
sup son
FLuE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1012 Posts
January 21 2012 13:00 GMT
#919
I'm impressed how everyone in this thread knows the inner workings of EG, their financial structures, player contracts, overall business plan, model, and vision for the future and just general business practices.

Where did everyone read up on that? I'd love to read up on it as well if someone could point me to where everyone is getting their information.

Or is it just all made up assumptions by people that really have no idea at all about anything they are talking about?
danteafk
Profile Joined May 2011
307 Posts
January 21 2012 15:10 GMT
#920
so what is doing lzgamer, machine and incontroll still there?

no reason to keep them if following that scheme
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