EPTPurely conjecture, but I'm willing to bet these two players just didn't get enough exposure, through tournament wins or otherwise. And now we have the rest of the NA EG with a fire under their butts, trying to attract as many eyes as possible.
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darkscream
Canada2310 Posts
Purely conjecture, but I'm willing to bet these two players just didn't get enough exposure, through tournament wins or otherwise. And now we have the rest of the NA EG with a fire under their butts, trying to attract as many eyes as possible. | ||
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CallousCarter
United Kingdom81 Posts
I guess it makes sense. I see Geoff "the personality" Robinson dodged the cut. Hopefully this season he can perform well in tournaments and become more of a pro-player rather than just an entertaining community member. | ||
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Hulavuta
United States1252 Posts
Also to anyone who is wondering why they're still in the house well....they're still friends, it's not like they're going to kick them out of the house to live in the streets or something...... | ||
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Canada505 Posts
On January 20 2012 19:51 darkscream wrote: You'll notice that right before this was announced, the remaining EG players started to stream a lot more/get in the public eye more. These practice sessions are getting a lot of viewers, too. Purely conjecture, but I'm willing to bet these two players just didn't get enough exposure, through tournament wins or otherwise. And now we have the rest of the NA EG with a fire under their butts, trying to attract as many eyes as possible. That's weird. You'd figure that if Axslav taught them anything, it should be that having an amazing stream with a lot of viewers doesn't make a difference in the end. | ||
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drgoats
United States310 Posts
On January 20 2012 19:51 darkscream wrote: You'll notice that right before this was announced, the remaining EG players started to stream a lot more/get in the public eye more. These practice sessions are getting a lot of viewers, too. Purely conjecture, but I'm willing to bet these two players just didn't get enough exposure, through tournament wins or otherwise. And now we have the rest of the NA EG with a fire under their butts, trying to attract as many eyes as possible. This is an interesting point. It is possible that their sponsors spoke up about how much revenue the team is generating for them. They wanted to keep the biggest names, release the lesser knowns and increase stream viewership. I could see something like this occurring from a business standpoint. | ||
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Substandard
Italy270 Posts
On January 20 2012 22:57 drgoats wrote: This is an interesting point. It is possible that their sponsors spoke up about how much revenue the team is generating for them. They wanted to keep the biggest names, release the lesser knowns and increase stream viewership. I could see something like this occurring from a business standpoint. They have all but come out and said that they didn't cut Axslav at all. They aknowledged that he was getting better. While he wasn't putting himself out there as much as Incontrol he had a group of followers. What it came down to is that he asked for something more than EG was willing to give him, either a bigger salary or more appearences in lan tourneys. If youre EG it's kinda hard to justify flying Axslav to a tourney instead of Idra, Huk, Puma, JYP or even Demuslim. As far as I understand Axslav found another team where he is higher placed in the internal ranking which will probably give him more chances to play in tournaments as well as a higher salary. | ||
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tombola
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DDie
Brazil2369 Posts
On January 20 2012 14:27 LuckoftheIrish wrote: Watch the EG practice streams. He has a ton of value beyond his community face. EG obviously is sticking with A-teamers only (HuK, Idra, Puma, JYP), and even if you believe Incontrol is good/talented, his teammates are on a how different level. For now, his ''community face'' is the only thing that will allow him to stay with EG. | ||
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Qwix
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aderum
Sweden1459 Posts
On January 20 2012 23:36 DDie wrote: EG obviously is sticking with A-teamers only (HuK, Idra, Puma, JYP), and even if you believe Incontrol is good/talented, his teammates are on a how different level. For now, his ''community face'' is the only thing that will allow him to stay with EG. Inc has a lot of RTS experience and is also the coach of EG. Saying that the only reason he stays is because of his "community face" is downplaying him a bit. I personally think after watching the streaming session EG have done lately that Inc is an awesome coach to have, even if he cant execute just as well lately. And we should not forget that he just beat thorzain in a bo3 in HomeStoryCup just the other week. | ||
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j9akim
Sweden1 Post
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MrCash
United States1504 Posts
On January 20 2012 23:49 j9akim wrote: EG practiced with Golden last night. Maybe EG is recruiting him? Golden has no team and he has stated that he is looking for a foreign team. To be honest, I'm truly hoping they will continue to try and get more foreign players. For one, I believe there is a great reputation to build there in growing foreign eSports. This can both be used to benefit EG and foreign scene in general, which is basically investing into their own future x2. That being said, they also have to get some return on whichever player they obtain. My point is, in direct player -> return ratio most Korean players will be a much safer bet than a great deal of foreign players, but considering other factors I hope EG can justify making a truly powerhouse foreign team. | ||
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TheAntZ
Israel6248 Posts
On January 20 2012 23:46 aderum wrote: I personally think after watching the streaming session EG have done lately that Inc is an awesome coach to have, even if he cant execute just as well lately. Do you know if there are VODs of this? If so could you please link it if its not too much trouble | ||
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resilve
United Kingdom678 Posts
This is especially given the fact that EG's roster has been so stable for so long, ina team house, with access to any and all tournaments: and the only players who can bring in wins are those they purchase already capable of doing so. I disliked EG for throwing so much money around while having such a deadweight roster outside the korean-based aspect of the team, but at least they have the business sense to make this needed change. | ||
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CallousCarter
United Kingdom81 Posts
On January 21 2012 01:03 resilve wrote: The amount of money sunk into that team compared to the quality and quantity of results returned is hilarious. This is especially given the fact that EG's roster has been so stable for so long, ina team house, with access to any and all tournaments: and the only players who can bring in wins are those they purchase already capable of doing so. I disliked EG for throwing so much money around while having such a deadweight roster outside the korean-based aspect of the team, but at least they have the business sense to make this needed change. The thing is any tournament worthy of noting has players from Korean teams who have the same if not better training set up as EG competing in them. If their players were just playing against other foreign teams with players who were just practising from home then I'd agree they should be winning a lot more but they aren't and they still have Huks winning MLGs, Puma winning/nearly winning NASL and dreamhack and Idra winning the auss rog invite and placing relatively well at MLGs. I'd say their results are pretty good. They only get so much stick because of they're so visible in the foreign community with all the content their players put out. | ||
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xsilenciox
United States1 Post
On January 20 2012 19:51 darkscream wrote: You'll notice that right before this was announced, the remaining EG players started to stream a lot more/get in the public eye more. These practice sessions are getting a lot of viewers, too. Purely conjecture, but I'm willing to bet these two players just didn't get enough exposure, through tournament wins or otherwise. And now we have the rest of the NA EG with a fire under their butts, trying to attract as many eyes as possible. This was actually because of what I remember being a chat between EGMachine and Liquid'Sheth. Sheth brought up the "good ol' days" when they used to have big team practices while playing BW. Then Machine said he was going to talk to the rest of the team about starting it up again. 2 days later they began streaming practice sessions. | ||
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starrrrlight
Denmark18 Posts
On January 19 2012 08:54 VPVanek wrote: Kind of tired of EG, they kick off players they have no more use for. yeah dude, its called practising a viable business plan :D | ||
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Twiggs
United States600 Posts
On January 20 2012 23:36 DDie wrote: EG obviously is sticking with A-teamers only (HuK, Idra, Puma, JYP), and even if you believe Incontrol is good/talented, his teammates are on a how different level. For now, his ''community face'' is the only thing that will allow him to stay with EG. He's a natural leader too and a good coach to his teammates as seen on stream. | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
On January 21 2012 00:55 TheAntZ wrote: Do you know if there are VODs of this? If so could you please link it if its not too much trouble There are definitely VODs as Machine, Incontrol, Demuslim and occasionally LzGamer have been streaming them. Any of their Twitch.tv accounts should have them. This is the most recent one from Incontrol's archives with, I think, Machine, Incontrol, Demuslim, StrifeCro, LzGamer, Spades, vVvRocker and evoli. | ||
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-stOpSKY-
Canada498 Posts
On January 20 2012 20:07 CallousCarter wrote: Such a tippy-toe statement. They managed to avoid outright giving us a reason they didn't give them another contract and try and sell their organisation to us at the same time. I guess it makes sense. I see Geoff "the personality" Robinson dodged the cut. Hopefully this season he can perform well in tournaments and become more of a pro-player rather than just an entertaining community member. I didnt know EG had to give you a reason for releasing two players? Hell I didnt even know EG had to give the community notice that they DID release two players..... oh wait... I did it again. -_- | ||
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