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vinsky
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland48 Posts
January 11 2012 23:38 GMT
#221
i think everybody r underestimating diestar, but we shall see
Nerchio - MVP - Mana - MKP | Flash
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
January 11 2012 23:38 GMT
#222
I thought yang won the SEA qualifier?
Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 23:39:35
January 11 2012 23:39 GMT
#223
MMA is several leagues better than anyone else in this tournament but he's a little shaky vs Protoss and most of his competition here play Protoss.

Still he's an S Class player in a sea of foreigners and mid-low A Teamers.
Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, MC, Oz, Jjakji!
Leifish
Profile Joined July 2011
851 Posts
January 11 2012 23:40 GMT
#224
Rooting endlessly for MMA!
Wivyx
Profile Joined May 2009
Norway624 Posts
January 11 2012 23:41 GMT
#225
On January 12 2012 00:49 TargA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 00:41 iaguz wrote:
MMA and 2 Protoss.

Yea fuck that I think I'll stay in Australia. GL though TargA


ez pz, gonna win the group

Yes please!
TheTurk
Profile Joined January 2011
United States732 Posts
January 11 2012 23:41 GMT
#226
No Stephano.
Starcraft is a lifestyle.
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
January 11 2012 23:41 GMT
#227
I hope MMA wins this. I think it's nice to have tournaments be a bit more predictable and have the strongest players come out on top, instead of endless upsets.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
January 11 2012 23:43 GMT
#228
On January 12 2012 08:38 Ruscour wrote:
I thought yang won the SEA qualifier?


yes, but most SEA player are not willing to come (can someone tell me why they even play the qualifier then?)
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Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
January 11 2012 23:47 GMT
#229
On January 12 2012 08:43 KalWarkov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 08:38 Ruscour wrote:
I thought yang won the SEA qualifier?


yes, but most SEA player are not willing to come (can someone tell me why they even play the qualifier then?)


So if Moonglade wins, he can attend
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
colate
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway121 Posts
January 11 2012 23:50 GMT
#230
i would love to see TargA advance from the group stage (Norwegian bais)
Nazeron
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1046 Posts
January 12 2012 00:01 GMT
#231
cool, looking forward to this!
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Icekommander
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada483 Posts
January 12 2012 00:06 GMT
#232
Praying for qxc, I think Naniwa or Kas will win it, but if I was betting I would bet on MMA.
Time Flies like an arrow. Fruit Flies like a banana.
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
January 12 2012 00:18 GMT
#233
On January 12 2012 06:07 The Final Boss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 05:44 Yonnua wrote:
Naniwa should definitely be getting out of his group. He's the best player there, and the others are mid tier pros for the large part. His vZ is still quite weak, so I can see KilleR taking a game or two theoretically, depending on how well he got to learn Naniwa's style while Nani was on dignitas. In theory Nani should clean out the group without a loss and it'll be between beasty and Killer to see who goes through. Killer seems to be good at upsets in tournaments, but the safer bet is on beastyqt. If he prepares for Killers roach-heavy style, he should come out of the group.

If Grubby plays like he did at Homestory, he should break from his group. Kas is good, and he'll probably get out of the group as well, but if Grubby does well, I could see him taking Kas out. Zenio hasn't had much coverage lately, but Grubby and Kas both have pretty good vZ so I don't see him getting out this time. Diestar is very much an unknown quantity. He could do well, but he's unlikely to take out the far more successful players he is up against.

In group C, Hasu and MMA should get out of the group. Once again, it'll come down to how mainstream the styles of Pomi and Targa are. If they have unique styles and MMA and Hasu aren't used to them, they could do badly. Hasu wasn't at his best at HSC, so I don't see him taking down MMA, but he should clear Pomi and Targa. MMa almost certainly takes the group, depending on how much focus he gives to preparing. He has a GSL match only three days before, so he's not likely to be preparing for these opponents. When compared to people like Hasu who have until the event to prepare for him specifically, there could be an upset.

Hero will probably escape group D, but he'll need to beat DIMAGA and qxc. He should take out feast, who isn't such a massive player, but qxc in particular could give him a lot of trouble. On the other hand, he could well beat DIMAGA, who wasn't really on form at Homestory. Qxc will probably take out DIMAGA, but this is definitely the closest group. A three way tie is very much possible, but it's probably going to be qxc and Hero.

NaNiwa has come so far since he was on Dignitas that I doubt KiLLeR's knowledge will have much impact on the game and NaNiwa's PvZ is super good. Maybe you missed MLG Providence where he beat NesTea in two Bo3s.... But if not look at his games against Zergs. On the first page, the only "weak" player listed there is Ciara, the other players are all ridiculously good and many are Koreans + Show Spoiler +
(Z)DRG, (Z)Sheth, (Z)Ciara (Z)Stephano, (Z)Leenock, (Z)NesTea, (Z)Ret, (Z)Sen, (Z)DIMAGA, (Z)HayprO with ~60% W/L ratio
and he has a pretty positive record on that page too. If KiLLeR can make a game against NaNiwa look close I'd be surprised.

I'm not sure that Diestar is really unknown because we continuously see him in tournaments, but he never goes anywhere. I doubt he'll do anything here either. His play always seems weak from what I've seen, so I agree with you that he has very little chance of escaping a group that talented.

I don't think that Qxc stands much of a chance, sadly. To the best of my knowledge he's been studying at school recently, so I don't really see how he can be as well prepared, which is something he'll need against players like HerO and DIMAGA.


Naniwa's repeatedly said that vZ is his weakest match-up. If he only had to play vT and vP, he'd be doing a LOT better than he is now. He did well at providence against every race, that doesn't mean PvZ isn't his weakest matchup.
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aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
January 12 2012 00:22 GMT
#234
mma time to win.
Fighter
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1531 Posts
January 12 2012 00:24 GMT
#235
Naniwa is taking this one. Humorously though, I'd be more worried about Zenio presenting a threat for him than MMA.
For Aiur???
amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
January 12 2012 00:37 GMT
#236
guess MMA wants some of that free money MC is always winning abroad vP is MMA's worst MU but I really don't think the foreigner P's will pose a problem here; only worried about Hero overseas: He's a bonjwa at the international events, a dud in GSL.
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
January 12 2012 00:39 GMT
#237
On January 12 2012 09:37 amazingoopah wrote:
guess MMA wants some of that free money MC is always winning abroad vP is MMA's worst MU but I really don't think the foreigner P's will pose a problem here; only worried about Hero overseas: He's a bonjwa at the international events, a dud in GSL.

wat? He's won just a single tournament.
TearsOfTheSun
Profile Joined March 2006
Canada995 Posts
January 12 2012 00:50 GMT
#238
ok guys.

group A:
NaNi - killer

group B:
zenio - kas

group C:
MMA - pomi

group D:
dimaga - hero
Dixer_ca^^ | Polt | Byun | MKP | DRG | White-Ra | Beastyqt | Maru | Creator
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 00:52:06
January 12 2012 00:51 GMT
#239
eh lame they invited MMA. No point even watching this we all know he's going to win.

edit: just noticed Naniwa is going too. I guess he has a decent shot. I wouln't be surprised if he got eliminated prematurely though.
MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
January 12 2012 00:52 GMT
#240
Really want to see MMA vs Zenio finals
Players: MMA, Boxer, Ryung, Life, TaeJa, Squirtle, Brown, Dark,
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