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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
January 18 2012 21:19 GMT
#401
MMA's TvP is relatively bad, in comparison to his TvZ and his TvT, both of which are incredibly good. That being said, MMA's TvP winrate in international tournaments is 82% percent. Granted, the sample size for his international TvP is not especially large (11 games total), but it still reveals that MMA's relatively poor TvP comes from playing top Korean protosses such as MC, Puzzle, Oz and Sage.

Basically what I am trying to say is that MMA's TvP is relatively weak, yes, but he is not JYP in the sense that he has a huge achilles heel. His record against foreign protosses is still very solid. Hero, Naniwa and Hasuobs are the three protosses that have the best chance of an upset, but since Hero and Naniwa will only meet MMA in Bo5 or Bo7, the chance of an upset is even smaller.

It is going to be hard to stop MMA this tournament.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
January 18 2012 21:24 GMT
#402
Group A

Strelok
Killer
NaNiwa
TitaN


Group B

NightEnD
Grubby
Kas

Zenio

Group C

HasuObs
MMA
Pomi

TargA

Group D

DIMAGA

Feast
HerO
qxc
Live and Let Die!
rolfe
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
January 18 2012 22:11 GMT
#403
On January 19 2012 06:19 Bagration wrote:
MMA's TvP is relatively bad, in comparison to his TvZ and his TvT, both of which are incredibly good. That being said, MMA's TvP winrate in international tournaments is 82% percent. Granted, the sample size for his international TvP is not especially large (11 games total), but it still reveals that MMA's relatively poor TvP comes from playing top Korean protosses such as MC, Puzzle, Oz and Sage.

Basically what I am trying to say is that MMA's TvP is relatively weak, yes, but he is not JYP in the sense that he has a huge achilles heel. His record against foreign protosses is still very solid. Hero, Naniwa and Hasuobs are the three protosses that have the best chance of an upset, but since Hero and Naniwa will only meet MMA in Bo5 or Bo7, the chance of an upset is even smaller.

It is going to be hard to stop MMA this tournament.

nice analysis, i completely agree.
life will not be contained. Life breaks free, it expands to new territories and crashes through barriers, painfully, maybe even dangerously but there it is. Life finds a way
Ryncol
Profile Joined July 2011
United States980 Posts
January 19 2012 00:09 GMT
#404
I'm really bad with time zones and was wondering exactly how many hours until this begins. Liquipedia says that the tournament will run from the 19th to the 22nd http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IEM_Season_VI_-_Global_Challenge_Kiev ; but it isn't on the TL upcoming events bar... does anyone have an ETA?
Rinrun
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada3509 Posts
January 19 2012 03:37 GMT
#405
Interesting, Whitera in for killer, looks like viewership just shot up.
MBC/Liquid/TSM always.
zeromajor01
Profile Joined June 2011
United States17 Posts
January 19 2012 03:39 GMT
#406
On January 12 2012 00:40 Carmac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 00:35 Morale wrote:
Gunna be intressting to see if Kas can do well! Correct me i im wrong, but this is his first big offline event? Will be cheering for Nani tho, he could win it all.


Kas has played two Intel Extreme Masters events before (Kiev 2011, Cologne 2011).



OWNED! LOL.. sorry couldn't help it.
Mrvoodoochild1
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1439 Posts
January 19 2012 03:39 GMT
#407
MMA is by far the best player in this tournament and should take it easily.
"let your freak flag fly"
imEnex
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada500 Posts
January 19 2012 03:39 GMT
#408
Gl Grubby, my favourite protoss!
Program yourself to Success
Engore
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1916 Posts
January 19 2012 03:41 GMT
#409
qxc fighting! Lets do it bandana man.
EG | Liquid | Dignitas | FXO | SlayerS | TSL | iS | Fan of pretty much all players ^_^ | SeleCT <3 forever! Axslav <3
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
January 19 2012 03:47 GMT
#410
Wow. Top-quality last-minute replacements. <3 Kiev.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
Wpcwe
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Russian Federation126 Posts
January 22 2012 06:23 GMT
#411
haha i said
group c - pomi :DD
everybody hates wpcwe*
DashedHopes
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada414 Posts
January 22 2012 06:26 GMT
#412
I wish white Ra couldve put on some more interesting games, they were just stupid and drawn out macro games. " Lets mass up, then determine the whole game ona boring a move battle
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