EPTI still think Killer's consistency puts him ahead of Titan and Strelok, but Strelok is a nightmare to predict, and Titan is more than capable of performing better.
NightEnd has his work cut out for him, but I'll be cheering!
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LunaSaint
United Kingdom620 Posts
I still think Killer's consistency puts him ahead of Titan and Strelok, but Strelok is a nightmare to predict, and Titan is more than capable of performing better. NightEnd has his work cut out for him, but I'll be cheering! | ||
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cyclone25
Romania3344 Posts
On January 17 2012 02:45 LunaSaint wrote: With Strelok replacing Beastyqt, group A looks even closer than ever (for second place, at least :p ). I still think Killer's consistency puts him ahead of Titan and Strelok, but Strelok is a nightmare to predict, and Titan is more than capable of performing better. NightEnd has his work cut out for him, but I'll be cheering! NightEnD beat Kas 2-0 at DreamHack, vs Grubby it will be a close match, and Zenio probably didn't practiced much ZvP because of his GSL group. I think NightEnD can go through if he plays well. | ||
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RPR_Tempest
Australia7798 Posts
But here's my picks for top 3. 1st: Quantic.NaNiwa 2nd: LiquidHerO 3rd: LiquidZenio MMA is let down by his less than stellar TvP. | ||
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chadissilent
Canada1187 Posts
Znow made it further than both NightEnD and Strelok in the winner's bracket (losing to Beastyqt) and as far as them in the loser's bracket (losing to DieStar). ESL did not e-mail him regarding the substitutions to be made and AFTER the announcement, they notified him that the other two players "reacted faster" and therefore were slotted in the tournament. If this is actually true that ESL made no attempt to contact Znow about the replacements then it seems like there is some serious bias present in the ESL administration. These politics should not be allowed to continue if the ESL would like to continually showcase the best European talent, not just the most famous. This might not mean anything to many of you, but for any player trying to break into the scene this is a travesty. How can you break into the scene when players are undeservedly being seeded ahead of you because of their name? This would put an end to the vileIllusions, the coL.TriMasters -- the extremely skilled players that just need a chance. What about the up and coming teams that just need the chance to showcase their talent in order to attract sponsors? I know my team's managers would kill for a chance to get a player in a tournament like this, thereby giving us a chance to showcase our talent in an effort to land a sponsor or two. If this doesn't happen, no new teams will emerge and we'll just be stuck with the status quo. http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season6/kiev/news/182298/ (In the comments section. I have since contacted Znow and he has received absolutely no e-mails from ESL regarding IEM substitutions, only their weekly newsletters). | ||
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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
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FishStix
United States425 Posts
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TensaiSakuragi
Croatia224 Posts
 On January 17 2012 04:04 chadissilent wrote: Znow made it further than both NightEnD and Strelok in the winner's bracket (losing to Beastyqt) and as far as them in the loser's bracket (losing to DieStar). ESL did not e-mail him regarding the substitutions to be made and AFTER the announcement, they notified him that the other two players "reacted faster" and therefore were slotted in the tournament. The Winner Bracket doesnt mean Jack. So he won more games in the winner bracket but both NightEnd and Strelok managed to win more games at the lower bracket. On January 17 2012 04:04 chadissilent wrote: If this is actually true that ESL made no attempt to contact Znow about the replacements then it seems like there is some serious bias present in the ESL administration. These politics should not be allowed to continue if the ESL would like to continually showcase the best European talent, not just the most famous. How dare you call out IEM to be biased towards big names? They're the organization which gives away the most spots via qualifiers. They always distance themselves from inviting big names and give New Hot Shots a chance. Znow made it as far as the other two. The reason why he fucked up his email is unfortunate but its not like it was HIS spot in the first place. Really... | ||
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Shebuha
Canada1335 Posts
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chadissilent
Canada1187 Posts
On January 17 2012 04:24 TensaiSakuragi wrote: Nice, now Kiev will be even greater The Winner Bracket doesnt mean Jack. So he won more games in the winner bracket but both NightEnd and Strelok managed to win more games at the lower bracket. Znow lost to Beastyqt in the WB and DieStar in the LB. Look who dropped out. How dare you call out IEM to be biased towards big names? They're the organization which gives away the most spots via qualifiers. They always distance themselves from inviting big names and give New Hot Shots a chance. Znow made it as far as the other two. The reason why he fucked up his email is unfortunate but its not like it was HIS spot in the first place. Really... I didn't call them out, I said if the information was in fact true then ESL's actions are suspect. I don't understand how you say "he fucked up his email," he receives emails from ESL but never received one about the substitutions. | ||
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
2) Hero 3) Zenio clearly no bias here | ||
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gullberg
Sweden1301 Posts
On January 17 2012 02:59 RPR_Tempest wrote: Group A is extremely close. I think KiLLer, Strelok and TitaN will all go 1-2... But here's my picks for top 3. 1st: Quantic.NaNiwa 2nd: LiquidHerO 3rd: LiquidZenio MMA is let down by his less than stellar TvP. I think you're underestimating his TvP, while it may not be the best he has beaten Naniwa before and Naniwa is the best PvTer there. So I definitely think that MMA have an insanely good shot at #1 | ||
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Sabre
United Kingdom1086 Posts
On January 17 2012 04:42 gullberg wrote: I think you're underestimating his TvP, while it may not be the best he has beaten Naniwa before and Naniwa is the best PvTer there. So I definitely think that MMA have an insanely good shot at #1 I dont know, TitaN has pretty sick PvT... anyways, my predictions  TitaN NaNiwa Kas Zenio MMA Pomi (Heard it here first) HerO Dimaga | ||
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GreeN__
Romania67 Posts
Beastyqt NaNiwa Group B NightEnD Grubby Group C HasuObs MMA Group D DIMAGA HerO I`ll be cheering for NightEnD , but he said he was just informed he will attend so he didn`t had enough time to practice.. But he 2-0`ed kas at dreamhack , and recently did good in pvp beating MaNa and SaSe 2-0.. so he`s like so in this.. | ||
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FrozenG
United States60 Posts
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Shawngood
Germany473 Posts
On January 17 2012 04:04 chadissilent wrote: Hmmm... something seems fishy with ESL right now. Znow made it further than both NightEnD and Strelok in the winner's bracket (losing to Beastyqt) and as far as them in the loser's bracket (losing to DieStar). ESL did not e-mail him regarding the substitutions to be made and AFTER the announcement, they notified him that the other two players "reacted faster" and therefore were slotted in the tournament. If this is actually true that ESL made no attempt to contact Znow about the replacements then it seems like there is some serious bias present in the ESL administration. These politics should not be allowed to continue if the ESL would like to continually showcase the best European talent, not just the most famous. This might not mean anything to many of you, but for any player trying to break into the scene this is a travesty. How can you break into the scene when players are undeservedly being seeded ahead of you because of their name? This would put an end to the vileIllusions, the coL.TriMasters -- the extremely skilled players that just need a chance. What about the up and coming teams that just need the chance to showcase their talent in order to attract sponsors? I know my team's managers would kill for a chance to get a player in a tournament like this, thereby giving us a chance to showcase our talent in an effort to land a sponsor or two. If this doesn't happen, no new teams will emerge and we'll just be stuck with the status quo. http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season6/kiev/news/182298/ (In the comments section. I have since contacted Znow and he has received absolutely no e-mails from ESL regarding IEM substitutions, only their weekly newsletters). See, I don't understand postings like these. Everything regarding this was explained in the comments on the IEM website. Still you come here and post rumours and accusations of being biased towards certain players. No, Znow did not make it farther than LoWeLy, Strelok or NightEnD. That's why they were all asked to step in, when it became clear that DieStar would not be able to come. Strelok actually approached me weeks ago about a chance to get into the tournament in case a player drops out. He was messaging me about it every other day and was the first to react when it became appearent that we would need a substitute for DieStar. Beastyqt cancelled even later (on Saturday) and I was glad that NightEnD was available and willing to book his flight right away. Everything being so short notice didn't leave enough time to run a decider tournament or something like that so it was basically a "first come, first served"-situation between the four. Coming up now to say "hey, I deserve that slot" when everything is fixed but not answering an email or being available to talk to via Skype, MSN or IRC is a bit weak. I am truely sorry for Znow as I would have loved to see him in a LAN tournament (especially after ToD claimed him to be a maphacker after he lost to him) but I don't see how I could have handled this any different with the tournament coming up in only a handful of days. | ||
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Sweden10 Posts
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Canada1187 Posts
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United States2382 Posts
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Canada7276 Posts
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