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On January 17 2012 11:53 Doomwish wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 09:31 m3rciless wrote:On January 17 2012 09:30 dAPhREAk wrote:On January 17 2012 09:28 Lolli92 wrote:
I really hope Idra will not get into that IPL Showmatch..
This is worse than what Naniwa did. Seems that 400$ aren't worth anything for him. him playing poorly is worse than naniwa throwing away a game intentionally? what planet are you from? At least Naniwa is actually good at this game. That buys him a lot of leeway in my humble opinion. And what the fuck has naniwa won in korea? educate me on this. keep that opinion nice and humble. What do you expect..koreans are just ahead of foriegners ...ALL foriegners, not just Idra. Stephano, Huk, Jinro, Idra, Naniwa... and many others all have tried. and so far aside from some marginal success have failed.
HuK has been in Korea for a long time and he was able to maintain consistent play in Code S. Sure, he's not doing as well anymore, but the format changed and Code S is tougher than its ever been so its not surprising to see him drop off.
As far as I know, no other non-Korean has been in Korea nearly as long as HuK. I think it would be unreasonable not to give Naniwa some more time before discussing the quality of his results.
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On January 17 2012 12:06 NegativeSC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 12:02 Pwnographics wrote:
Didn't IdrA say his ZvT was phenomenal just a couple days before?
What happened? You realize this showmatch happened when he just got to Korea, right?
Christ, really one guy posts it and the 40 pages afterwards everybody tries to get rid of this inaccurate statement.
The game of tonight was 3 days old.
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On January 17 2012 12:09 Vul wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 11:53 Doomwish wrote:On January 17 2012 09:31 m3rciless wrote:On January 17 2012 09:30 dAPhREAk wrote:On January 17 2012 09:28 Lolli92 wrote:
I really hope Idra will not get into that IPL Showmatch..
This is worse than what Naniwa did. Seems that 400$ aren't worth anything for him. him playing poorly is worse than naniwa throwing away a game intentionally? what planet are you from? At least Naniwa is actually good at this game. That buys him a lot of leeway in my humble opinion. And what the fuck has naniwa won in korea? educate me on this. keep that opinion nice and humble. What do you expect..koreans are just ahead of foriegners ...ALL foriegners, not just Idra. Stephano, Huk, Jinro, Idra, Naniwa... and many others all have tried. and so far aside from some marginal success have failed. HuK has been in Korea for a long time and he was able to maintain consistent play in Code S. Sure, he's not doing as well anymore, but the format changed and Code S is tougher than its ever been so its not surprising to see him drop off. As far as I know, no other non-Korean has been in Korea nearly as long as HuK. I think it would be unreasonable not to give Naniwa some more time before discussing the quality of his results.
Jinro?
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Holy crap the poll is dead even.
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On January 17 2012 12:10 Loxley wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 12:06 NegativeSC wrote:On January 17 2012 12:02 Pwnographics wrote:
Didn't IdrA say his ZvT was phenomenal just a couple days before?
What happened? You realize this showmatch happened when he just got to Korea, right? Christ, really one guy posts it and the 40 pages afterwards everybody tries to get rid of this inaccurate statement. The game of tonight was 3 days old.
People repeated it because Demuslim said it on his stream since he was providing commentary on it. It was irresponsible for him to say without being 100% certain since it is now seen as gospel.
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On January 17 2012 11:39 Newbistic wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 11:29 Oreo7 wrote:
Idra has been hyped up to beyond reasonable expectations. He's not on the top foreigner level occupied by Nani/Huk/Stephano and maybe Sase. But he does have a massive hype machine behind him. What a terrible quantification of "top foreigner level". Idra, Naniwa, Huk, and Sase have all had their ups and downs. Sase hasn't shown nearly the amount of results Idra has. Naniwa didn't win a single game at Blizzard Cup and for most of 2011 didn't show any results. HuK also had his up and down moments. Stephano has been fairly consistent. You completely omitted Thorzain. Idra currently isn't performing as well as he's capable of. He fell out of Code S and lost this showmatch, all in the span of a short period of time. But when he's in form he's easily a top foreigner. If you're truly capable of seeing past the "massive hype machine" as you seem to be implying that you can, you'd realize this.
The fuck? Nani has been one of the most consistent foreigners outside of GSL.
TSL3, all MLGs + invitational, Blizzcon, both Homestory cups
I agree that Idra is overrated. People only see the good macro/mechanic player in him, but don't recognize that he is too vulnerable in the early game and too predictable because of this. So his losses are downtalked.
If you look at Idras win percentage or better his ELO rankings (sc2charts.net has a more accurate than TL), Idra was seldomly among the top5 foreigners throughout the year.
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On January 17 2012 12:10 Loxley wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 12:06 NegativeSC wrote:On January 17 2012 12:02 Pwnographics wrote:
Didn't IdrA say his ZvT was phenomenal just a couple days before?
What happened? You realize this showmatch happened when he just got to Korea, right? Christ, really one guy posts it and the 40 pages afterwards everybody tries to get rid of this inaccurate statement. The game of tonight was 3 days old.
No it wasn't.
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On January 17 2012 12:08 magnaflow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 12:03 PanN wrote:On January 17 2012 12:01 magnaflow wrote:On January 17 2012 11:56 ronpaul012 wrote:
It is was showmatch, and it was against somebody that he's been living with for the past few months. I think a lot of people are reading way to much into this. I don't think so. Idra played 2 base muta/ling/bling.. that shit is so 6 months ago. Even gold level players take faster 3rds. Edit: Need to fix account settings, my b-day isn't till July lol Edit 2: Guess I can't. 6 months ago...? Doesn't leenock play exclusively with this style? Leenock, nuff said
Not really, your argument is pretty damn poor...
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Think about it this way guys, the upgrade difference between the two players was huge. I reckon that if there was a timing for faster upgrades for Zerg, MutaLingBling might still work. Or am I just kinda insane?
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On January 17 2012 12:24 IntoTheheart wrote:
Think about it this way guys, the upgrade difference between the two players was huge. I reckon that if there was a timing for faster upgrades for Zerg, MutaLingBling might still work. Or am I just kinda insane?
I don't think you're giving taeja's talent enough credit-there was the part where he was 0-0 against 2-0 for idra but managed to split so well that he only lost like 8 marines max...
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On January 17 2012 12:13 SC2NeCro wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 12:10 Loxley wrote:On January 17 2012 12:06 NegativeSC wrote:On January 17 2012 12:02 Pwnographics wrote:
Didn't IdrA say his ZvT was phenomenal just a couple days before?
What happened? You realize this showmatch happened when he just got to Korea, right? Christ, really one guy posts it and the 40 pages afterwards everybody tries to get rid of this inaccurate statement. The game of tonight was 3 days old. No it wasn't.
Well the General Manager of team EG thinks otherwise:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=13165557
Why am I trying to correct someone on the internet.. Haven't I learned enough.. 
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On January 17 2012 12:06 NegativeSC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 12:02 Pwnographics wrote:
Didn't IdrA say his ZvT was phenomenal just a couple days before?
What happened? You realize this showmatch happened when he just got to Korea, right?
...
EG manager says otherwise.
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On January 17 2012 12:31 Pwnographics wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 12:06 NegativeSC wrote:On January 17 2012 12:02 Pwnographics wrote:
Didn't IdrA say his ZvT was phenomenal just a couple days before?
What happened? You realize this showmatch happened when he just got to Korea, right? ... EG manager says otherwise.
ESV guys said it was 3 days ago or so.
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The games happened right when he got there.
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Idra was on top of his play. great games! keep them coming!
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Omg close this thread now, Orb maybe colorblind but the idra fans (well those like the one above: rabbet) are utterly ignorant and blind for clear text.
3 Posts, with a link to an official post from EG and the direct response: ignorance.
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On January 17 2012 12:42 Rabbet wrote:
The games happened right when he got there.
You couldn't read any of the 3 posts directly above yours to see that what you said isn't true?
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..........the games were played on Saturday. Why are people so stupid?? Learn to read. T_T
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On January 17 2012 06:17 Diamond wrote:Very very recently.
Quoting this again.
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On January 17 2012 12:42 Rabbet wrote:
The games happened right when he got there.
The games were played Saturday, January 14th 2012
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EPT
