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On January 04 2012 08:00 Choboo wrote:
I wouldn't count too much on GOMTV's guarantees regarding GSL seeds but oh well. GL to Xigua and Macsed, two incredibly good players!
Heh this is true. I'll say that they're really good players, but probably on par with mid-tier Koreans at best. While that is really good, it isn't Koreans. Still, I think the Chinese teams are being a bit irrational only putting their players in Korean-based tournaments and not non-Chinese foreign tournaments as well :S. At least they'd have a good shot at winning stuff.
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On January 05 2012 07:15 Eee wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 06:13 Mandalor wrote:On January 05 2012 06:06 Eee wrote:On January 05 2012 05:51 eXigent. wrote:On January 05 2012 04:01 Eee wrote:On January 05 2012 03:27 OPL3SA2 wrote:On January 04 2012 08:01 RacerX wrote:
I still really don't like the get in free cards for foreign players, they should have to practice and perform as well as the koreans and show it through the qualifiers. If they want to qualify they go through the qualifiers like everyone else. Doesn't make sense. They don't live in korea Well how in the hell are you going to play in the GSL if you dont live in Korea? By receiving a code A spot.... haven't you been reading? And by receiving a Code A spot you'll have to live in Korea, so then it dosent even matter? if you live in Korea you can participate in the qualifiers. Haven't you been reading? Why would anyone in their right mind pay the flight to korea with the off-chance of qualifing through a ridiculously hard qualifier? Even if you're one of the favorites to advance, your chances are slim. There aren't a lot of people who would do the qualifiers even though they might have the skill to compete in Code A. The financial hurdle is just way too big. Also I guess there aren't many korean teams that would let you live at their house if you're not in the GSL. I, for one, welcome this. I like some diversity in the GSL and look forward to seeing both of them. GL Xigua/MacSed! Thorzain, Sjow, Select, Grubby etc. (The Majority of the players that have been in Korea) didnt even go there to participate in the GSL, they went there to train. (Thorzain said this in an interview and so did SjoW in an interview, Select also stated that the he was going to Korea anyway it wasnt because of the GSL). Dignitas BlinG didnt have an invite but was supposed to stay in Korea (to bad he didnt find a place to stay). LastShadow, Major, Cytoplasm, SloG, ToD and nearly all other players besides Idra, HuK, Naniwa are there to PRACTICE not drop out of Code A through an unfair qualifying system (getting top1000 at MLG). Seriously that argument of yours was so stupid, since the majority of the players who go to Korea go there mainly to become good not show of sponsors in ro32 and then drop out and go home.
No you have the wrong argument here. And most people including GomTV agree which is why they give out the invites to a select few foreigners. I honestly don't see why anyone is complaining about this.
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On January 05 2012 10:25 Rarak wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 07:15 Eee wrote:On January 05 2012 06:13 Mandalor wrote:On January 05 2012 06:06 Eee wrote:On January 05 2012 05:51 eXigent. wrote:On January 05 2012 04:01 Eee wrote:On January 05 2012 03:27 OPL3SA2 wrote:On January 04 2012 08:01 RacerX wrote:
I still really don't like the get in free cards for foreign players, they should have to practice and perform as well as the koreans and show it through the qualifiers. If they want to qualify they go through the qualifiers like everyone else. Doesn't make sense. They don't live in korea Well how in the hell are you going to play in the GSL if you dont live in Korea? By receiving a code A spot.... haven't you been reading? And by receiving a Code A spot you'll have to live in Korea, so then it dosent even matter? if you live in Korea you can participate in the qualifiers. Haven't you been reading? Why would anyone in their right mind pay the flight to korea with the off-chance of qualifing through a ridiculously hard qualifier? Even if you're one of the favorites to advance, your chances are slim. There aren't a lot of people who would do the qualifiers even though they might have the skill to compete in Code A. The financial hurdle is just way too big. Also I guess there aren't many korean teams that would let you live at their house if you're not in the GSL. I, for one, welcome this. I like some diversity in the GSL and look forward to seeing both of them. GL Xigua/MacSed! Thorzain, Sjow, Select, Grubby etc. (The Majority of the players that have been in Korea) didnt even go there to participate in the GSL, they went there to train. (Thorzain said this in an interview and so did SjoW in an interview, Select also stated that the he was going to Korea anyway it wasnt because of the GSL). Dignitas BlinG didnt have an invite but was supposed to stay in Korea (to bad he didnt find a place to stay). LastShadow, Major, Cytoplasm, SloG, ToD and nearly all other players besides Idra, HuK, Naniwa are there to PRACTICE not drop out of Code A through an unfair qualifying system (getting top1000 at MLG). Seriously that argument of yours was so stupid, since the majority of the players who go to Korea go there mainly to become good not show of sponsors in ro32 and then drop out and go home. No you have the wrong argument here. And most people including GomTV agree which is why they give out the invites to a select few foreigners. I honestly don't see why anyone is complaining about this.
The way foreigners used to qualify was unfair that was why gom changed it (I still consider it unfair, and really fucked up), they got a lot of critique for it by Koreans and foreigners like Huk and Jinro.
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i'm so happy for this. awesome!!
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On January 05 2012 10:57 Eee wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 10:25 Rarak wrote:On January 05 2012 07:15 Eee wrote:On January 05 2012 06:13 Mandalor wrote:On January 05 2012 06:06 Eee wrote:On January 05 2012 05:51 eXigent. wrote:On January 05 2012 04:01 Eee wrote:On January 05 2012 03:27 OPL3SA2 wrote:On January 04 2012 08:01 RacerX wrote:
I still really don't like the get in free cards for foreign players, they should have to practice and perform as well as the koreans and show it through the qualifiers. If they want to qualify they go through the qualifiers like everyone else. Doesn't make sense. They don't live in korea Well how in the hell are you going to play in the GSL if you dont live in Korea? By receiving a code A spot.... haven't you been reading? And by receiving a Code A spot you'll have to live in Korea, so then it dosent even matter? if you live in Korea you can participate in the qualifiers. Haven't you been reading? Why would anyone in their right mind pay the flight to korea with the off-chance of qualifing through a ridiculously hard qualifier? Even if you're one of the favorites to advance, your chances are slim. There aren't a lot of people who would do the qualifiers even though they might have the skill to compete in Code A. The financial hurdle is just way too big. Also I guess there aren't many korean teams that would let you live at their house if you're not in the GSL. I, for one, welcome this. I like some diversity in the GSL and look forward to seeing both of them. GL Xigua/MacSed! Thorzain, Sjow, Select, Grubby etc. (The Majority of the players that have been in Korea) didnt even go there to participate in the GSL, they went there to train. (Thorzain said this in an interview and so did SjoW in an interview, Select also stated that the he was going to Korea anyway it wasnt because of the GSL). Dignitas BlinG didnt have an invite but was supposed to stay in Korea (to bad he didnt find a place to stay). LastShadow, Major, Cytoplasm, SloG, ToD and nearly all other players besides Idra, HuK, Naniwa are there to PRACTICE not drop out of Code A through an unfair qualifying system (getting top1000 at MLG). Seriously that argument of yours was so stupid, since the majority of the players who go to Korea go there mainly to become good not show of sponsors in ro32 and then drop out and go home. No you have the wrong argument here. And most people including GomTV agree which is why they give out the invites to a select few foreigners. I honestly don't see why anyone is complaining about this. The way foreigners used to qualify was unfair that was why gom changed it (I still consider it unfair, and really fucked up), they got a lot of critique for it by Koreans and foreigners like Huk and Jinro.
As good as Huk was in GSL he was also invited into GSL.
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An interview with iG.Edison is added, they will go to Korea on 30th Jan for GSL Code A Season One!
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On January 04 2012 09:06 setzer wrote:
GOM is turning into congress with the amount of free handouts they are giving lately. I just can't anymore get myself to root for a foreigner than doesn't actually qualify. History has not been kind to non-Koreans in Code-A and until people actually prove through themselves though qualification I don't believe they truly belong there.
Foreigners qualifying is a lot more impressive than a Korean qualifying. For a foreigner to attempt it they first have to somehow get sponsored enough money to fly to Korea and live there, will be separated from friends/family for as long as they stay, probably don't speak/understand the language, will probably have worse practice partners (or at best practice partners they have difficulty communicating with), etc. You just can't expect GOM to NOT give the foreigners a seed, if they don't deserve it they'll get knocked out pretty quickly due to the new GSL format.
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did anyone know XiGua means watermellon lol?
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I do hope loveTT——a paralleled player with Xigua, even better——could join the gsl game as well
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On January 08 2012 12:30 triarii wrote:
did anyone know XiGua means watermellon lol?
Yeah, haha. It's pretty funny :p not many people would pick their favourite fruit as their online handle.
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Xigua Vs FruitSeller
hum.....
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待到秋来九月八，我花开时百花杀。冲天香阵透长安，满城尽带黄金甲
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Sry, for bumping this, but what happened with the iG-FXO thing?
Wolf said in Code A after the conclusion of XiGua vs Killer that it fell into the water and that there is a thread about it, but somehow I am unable to find it.
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On February 16 2012 05:23 JustPassingBy wrote:
Sry, for bumping this, but what happened with the iG-FXO thing?
Wolf said in Code A after the conclusion of XiGua vs Killer that it fell into the water and that there is a thread about it, but somehow I am unable to find it.
Well, I just read the some story from EdIsOn, the coach of XiGua and MacSed, after they finish their first GSL tournament, where he gave the explanation on the cooperation.
Translation are given as follows: (I am still learning English. Please feel free to correct me if you find any error in grammar or something : )
Note that the 1st section are devoted to their difficulty in getting the visa this time, which they have not encountered before. They experienced really strict and complex procedure regarding documents required this time.
2. On the [Korean] cooperative club
At first I admit that there was consensus with Fxo which would not be official until the agreement was signed. However, we have to defer signing the agreement multiple times due to the visa issue. We were afraid that the agreement would be, in case we could not get our visa, hype for ourselves ,or deception on our partner and fans. (I am not sure what he originally means as the literal translation of what he said is "It would be that we slap our face if we sign the agreement before getting the visa") I have informed the issue on visa to the man who were in charge of this in Fxo. However, It never rains but it pours. Just because of the delay of our visa, they had to friendly tell us that it has been a long time, we have to find some other clubs for potential partnership.
It was on Feb, 7th that I received the email, resulting us on the horns of a dilemma. (He said they finally got their visa on Feb, 4th) Fortunately, GerradPrime happened to send a MSN message to me at the moment, saying "Hi". That just met our very urgent needs at the right time. I talked with right away about the cooperation. Since we have the experience last year and communicated with each other during the WCG, along with our friendship and trustfulness we have established before, we managed to settled down our partnership on the very same day. Now in the practising house of Prime, I just typed these words with emotion. They are really friendly, providing us enormous help. In particular, it is the professionalism of the people here that have stunned XiGua and MacSed. "I will be practising as many as MarinKing does from now on," these were the most words they (XiGua and MacSed) said after today's games. (Both of them got eliminated today in the first round of Code A.)
Text in Chinese:
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2：关于合作俱乐部
首先我得说明的是之前是说和Fxo达成合作的共识，但是要合作是需要签署相关协议的。而因为签证的问题，我们一直在拖这份协议，因为我们怕我们如果因为签证不能到韩国的话，那么签了这份协议就是在自己扇自己嘴巴。所谓的祸不单行，正是因为签证的时间过长，尽管我提前给Fxo的负责人打了招呼，并且说明了签证情况，但是因为种种原因把，最后他们还是友好的告诉我们，现在等待的时间太长了，你们还是去寻找另外家俱乐部合作把。
当时收到这个邮件的时候是2月7号，立马我就进入了尴尬境地。这时Prime的Gerrard适时的在MSN给我发来的“Hi”让我茅塞顿开。紧接着和他谈关于合作方面的事宜，因为有过去年的经验和WCG时关于联队的交流，再加上我们之间早已建立起的朋友间的信任，所以当天就谈妥了我们和Prime的合作。现在在Prime的宿舍了打下这段文字，心中很多感慨。他们对我们真的非常的友善，在练习中也给予了我们很大的帮助，最关键的是他们的专业性真正的震撼到了XiGua和MacSed。他们今天输比赛以后说的最多一句话就是“之后山包练多久，我就练多久”。
Source: http://s.163.com/12/0215/10/7QA2R15R00314D0E_3.html
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