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Desert Fox
Profile Joined August 2011
United States352 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 15:02:16
December 31 2011 14:52 GMT
#841
On December 31 2011 19:26 ToastieNL wrote:
Wow, I got like, the GREATEST idea ever on how Gomtv could sell more tickets:

Let the people pay by players in Code S. You Terran? You get twice as many games as P/Z for the same money. That's unfair. It'd be cooler if Gom sold tickets that allowed you to watch one races video's + Semi's and finals. And than, give a discount of 30% for Z/P in case half the games are Terran.
In fact, I find that a whole lot more fair, I have nothing to gain from wathcing Tvt time and time again, it takes long, is boring, Idon't care about tank wars, I don't understand their shit, so actually, I pay for bs?


This is such a stupid post, good lord. Do you even read what you're typing before you press the button? This is a game between players that play different races. If you don't fucking like it, find a game where there isn't that dynamic. People whine about such stupid shit.

Edit: And just in fucking general, who fucking cares if there's more people of one race? It's cool you have a race but stop fucking threatening an organization that puts out premium content that is there for the fucking community day in and day out--all over something so ever-changing as the number of slots taken by certain races in a given season. GSL has edited their maps, modified the process by which players qualify and worked diligently to make certain Protoss and Zerg players have a chance. The last two GSL products have been phenomenal with two championship series that were the to-date premier series in StarCraft 2--both TvZs.

Stop talking about Protoss. Stop talking about Zerg. Stop talking about Terran. Start talking about StarCraft 2. 99.9% of the people who post here aren't even on the level to discuss imbalance in a meaningful way, wouldn't know what to change without ruining the game and are your typical whiny person who can't approach things without tearing something down.

Finally: If the 10 best players mechanically, mentally and competitively all play Terran and it could be identified (herp why these discussions are retarded) , would tournaments need to make it so only 3 of those top 10 spots were occupied by Terran?

That's the problem. You don't know that these people aren't just the better players. You really fucking don't. All you see is the race and assume. Balance is not derived from 50/50% match-ups, nor are they derived from an equal split of participants. Until you can grasp that simple reality, you're going to be making stupid posts.
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power-overwhelming
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada306 Posts
December 31 2011 14:56 GMT
#842
On December 31 2011 15:06 mtn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 15:03 power-overwhelming wrote:
Did that guy really say Lucky is better than MC or Supernova?


Did you see Lucky's play lately? ( well... Since IPL).

MC and Supernova are slucking pretty hard. MC getting outplayed in every single tournament really.

Supernova isn't all that good eaither anymore.

New blood comes in. You like it or not, here it comes.


Lmao. When you say "lately" you refer to IPL. Speaking of lately, let's refer to Code S, and Blizzcup. Yea Lucky is "better" alright lol.Supernova not that good? Oh I guess you really don't know what you're talking about lol. No point arguing with you when you couldn't be any more wrong.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 31 2011 14:58 GMT
#843
On December 31 2011 19:42 ToastieNL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 19:37 acrimoneyius wrote:
On December 31 2011 19:26 ToastieNL wrote:
Wow, I got like, the GREATEST idea ever on how Gomtv could sell more tickets:

Let the people pay by players in Code S. You Terran? You get twice as many games as P/Z for the same money. That's unfair. It'd be cooler if Gom sold tickets that allowed you to watch one races video's + Semi's and finals. And than, give a discount of 30% for Z/P in case half the games are Terran.
In fact, I find that a whole lot more fair, I have nothing to gain from wathcing Tvt time and time again, it takes long, is boring, Idon't care about tank wars, I don't understand their shit, so actually, I pay for bs?


No...just no...that would be such a huge convoluted mess of planning and payment options. Just learn to enjoy TvT or don't watch it..pretty simple.

No, it wouldn't.
You sort all games in 4 groups:
All
Terran
Protoss
Zerg
Now, you give people the option to buy either.
All: 100% cost
Terran: 50% + (15/32*50)% cost
Zerg: 50% + (8/32*50)% cost
Protoss: 50% + (9/32*50)%cost
This way, you still pay the 50% equal (organising, just basic cost + finals) and the second 50% is based on the amount of players your race has in Code S Group Stages. I think it might actually sell a lot more tickets because people that won't pay for TvTs they won't watch, will buy the tickets now.

By the way, how should I 'learn' to enjoy TvT. Why should I learn too? Because I HAVE to pay for it if I want to watch the GSL? That's nonsense. utter and total nonsense.

Makes no sense financially. It's much better for GSL to force people to buy whole-season tickets instead of letting them only watch the games they care about for less money. Especially as those people would buy the full ticket anyway for the matches they want to watch anyway. If anything when you get to choose which matchups you want to watch, the total cost is supposed to be much higher.

Also, TvT is amazing, just be happy it's not ZvZ or PvP.
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Severian
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2052 Posts
December 31 2011 15:03 GMT
#844
I would imagine that people would be delighted if 90% of their selected race got knocked out in the first round, and they're unable to use their ticket to watch more than a couple of games for the rest of the season.
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
December 31 2011 16:13 GMT
#845
Idra with a really rough group. How to see some good games.
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
December 31 2011 16:15 GMT
#846
epic fail by leenocl picking forgg. right up there with mc picking mvp.
MC for president
ninjamyst
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1903 Posts
December 31 2011 16:26 GMT
#847
On January 01 2012 01:15 tdt wrote:
epic fail by leenocl picking forgg. right up there with mc picking mvp.


group selection for Ro32 is random....
majloon
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden122 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 16:30:02
December 31 2011 16:29 GMT
#848
On January 01 2012 01:26 ninjamyst wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 01:15 tdt wrote:
epic fail by leenocl picking forgg. right up there with mc picking mvp.


group selection for Ro32 is random....

Not for leenock and jjakji, they both got to pick 1 person each from the lowest seeds.
FlyingDike
Profile Joined December 2011
United States221 Posts
December 31 2011 16:29 GMT
#849
On January 01 2012 01:26 ninjamyst wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 01:15 tdt wrote:
epic fail by leenocl picking forgg. right up there with mc picking mvp.


group selection for Ro32 is random....

leenock picked forgg since he was runner up last gsl.. the others are random
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 31 2011 17:38 GMT
#850
Hey guys we all know ForGG was the easiest possible opponent for Leenock so obviously it was a good move, he knows ForGG can only cheese and as it's the style he's familiar with it should be an easy victory

+ Show Spoiler +
Some people probably actually think that o_O Nahh he dug his own grave with this one~
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diophan
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1018 Posts
December 31 2011 17:40 GMT
#851
On January 01 2012 01:15 tdt wrote:
epic fail by leenocl picking forgg. right up there with mc picking mvp.


Lennock: Yeah I'll pick this Fin guy I've never heard of him he must be bad.
Someone later: Fin is ForGG.
Leenock: Oh sh*t.
ChoDing
Profile Joined November 2009
United States740 Posts
December 31 2011 18:42 GMT
#852
Go Fin or ForGG! This is your year!

P.S. Bye Grack! LOL
관광 since 2008. Master of Cheese. God of Heartbreak Ridge.
KiZZeMiZZ
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden9 Posts
December 31 2011 18:49 GMT
#853
ST*U EVERY BODDY............ all groups are hard. I wuld come last in all of them and im SILVER!!!???
"Im ALWAYS right" -me
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
December 31 2011 18:54 GMT
#854
On December 31 2011 19:47 ToastieNL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 19:43 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On December 31 2011 19:37 acrimoneyius wrote:
On December 31 2011 19:26 ToastieNL wrote:
Wow, I got like, the GREATEST idea ever on how Gomtv could sell more tickets:

Let the people pay by players in Code S. You Terran? You get twice as many games as P/Z for the same money. That's unfair. It'd be cooler if Gom sold tickets that allowed you to watch one races video's + Semi's and finals. And than, give a discount of 30% for Z/P in case half the games are Terran.
In fact, I find that a whole lot more fair, I have nothing to gain from wathcing Tvt time and time again, it takes long, is boring, Idon't care about tank wars, I don't understand their shit, so actually, I pay for bs?


No...just no...that would be such a huge convoluted mess of planning and payment options. Just learn to enjoy TvT or don't watch it..pretty simple.


TvT is an amazing match up, honestly. I'm hoping some of the people who hate it today aren't not hating it simply because they've stopped watching all TvT ever since it was just tank viking back in the beta, because it has evolved very quickly into a really exciting match up. That would be a pity.


On that note, I've been wondering. What if two terrans both play [pure] bio? I don't think I've ever seen this, even outside the GSL? It would be funny because it would be like a "normal" match up, haha.

Well, I watch the occasional TvT, but the differense between TvT and PP/ZZ is... It's just much slower. TvTs can easily stretch 40 minutes and while that might be interesting for some: I don't give a fuck about Terran.
I agree some matches are very interessting and highly paced, but some others happen to leave the casters to fill in 30 minutes of time because nothin interesting happens.
That is bad.
That is boring.
That, I dont watch....

I think TvT is pretty amazing, but I see what you're saying ... sometimes it takes forever to kill your opponent even if you're significantly ahead and/or have better macro. You see games where someone gets the advantage five minutes in, and the game still stretches out for 30+ minutes, because the guy with the advantage just can't close it up. It does offer more chances for comebacks though, which is pretty exciting.
FlyingDike
Profile Joined December 2011
United States221 Posts
December 31 2011 18:58 GMT
#855
On January 01 2012 02:38 Shikyo wrote:
Hey guys we all know ForGG was the easiest possible opponent for Leenock so obviously it was a good move, he knows ForGG can only cheese and as it's the style he's familiar with it should be an easy victory

+ Show Spoiler +
Some people probably actually think that o_O Nahh he dug his own grave with this one~

Nice...He's called "The Pretender" for a reason. I heard he mindfucked polt by going bio against him on ladder but switching to mech in the gsl. Polt probably practiced more for bio, which is partly why he got dominated. Go fOrGG!
Agnosthar
Profile Joined August 2010
631 Posts
December 31 2011 19:05 GMT
#856
RELEASE THE GRA... oh my lord, that group!

Great group for NaDa though, I'm hoping this GSL he can have another deep run, NaDa in the finals would be perfect.

Like everyone else I can't wait to see how ForGG does in his debut season of code S.
ForeverSleep
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada920 Posts
December 31 2011 19:13 GMT
#857
idra is so screwed lol. And leenock picking Forgg...ouchies
"Life is what happens to you while you’re busy making other plans" - John Lennon
GodOfWar
Profile Joined December 2011
870 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 19:20:03
December 31 2011 19:18 GMT
#858
All you ForGG hypers gonna be shut down when hes up against T-Rex just eating him alive

2012 will be the year of the new God of War to shine.
Mvp Moon Squirtle
mtn
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
729 Posts
December 31 2011 19:26 GMT
#859
On December 31 2011 23:56 power-overwhelming wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 15:06 mtn wrote:
On December 31 2011 15:03 power-overwhelming wrote:
Did that guy really say Lucky is better than MC or Supernova?


Did you see Lucky's play lately? ( well... Since IPL).

MC and Supernova are slucking pretty hard. MC getting outplayed in every single tournament really.

Supernova isn't all that good eaither anymore.

New blood comes in. You like it or not, here it comes.


Lmao. When you say "lately" you refer to IPL. Speaking of lately, let's refer to Code S, and Blizzcup. Yea Lucky is "better" alright lol.Supernova not that good? Oh I guess you really don't know what you're talking about lol. No point arguing with you when you couldn't be any more wrong.


Compare Lucky's and Supernova's results.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
December 31 2011 19:33 GMT
#860
On January 01 2012 04:26 mtn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 23:56 power-overwhelming wrote:
On December 31 2011 15:06 mtn wrote:
On December 31 2011 15:03 power-overwhelming wrote:
Did that guy really say Lucky is better than MC or Supernova?


Did you see Lucky's play lately? ( well... Since IPL).

MC and Supernova are slucking pretty hard. MC getting outplayed in every single tournament really.

Supernova isn't all that good eaither anymore.

New blood comes in. You like it or not, here it comes.


Lmao. When you say "lately" you refer to IPL. Speaking of lately, let's refer to Code S, and Blizzcup. Yea Lucky is "better" alright lol.Supernova not that good? Oh I guess you really don't know what you're talking about lol. No point arguing with you when you couldn't be any more wrong.


Compare Lucky's and Supernova's results.


Compare Lucky's and MC's results.
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