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Sanz
Profile Joined December 2010
150 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-29 21:03:03
December 29 2011 21:01 GMT
#181
On December 30 2011 02:25 Primadog wrote:
http://www.studcraft2.com/players


The list is getting better and better - nada climbed to 7.

This site= hot hot hot

Keen for #1! gogo
QxGRockEr
Profile Joined July 2011
United States191 Posts
December 29 2011 21:01 GMT
#182
On December 30 2011 05:54 CaptainTwig wrote:
The Only foreign progamers that are good looking and have a good understanding of fashion would be;

(P)BlinG
and possibly..
(P)SaSe


I can't think of another progamer that comes close to these two. I'm always suprised when I see how progamers dress, People like TLO, Destiny, Ret, Incontrol etc come across as normal down to earth people but when I see how they dress is makes me think otherwise.


how does their dress make them not "down to earth" or "normal" wtf?

lol
LighTeSports
PopcornColonel
Profile Joined March 2011
United States769 Posts
December 29 2011 21:03 GMT
#183
Other than a few exceptions I can't think of that many players being "unhealthy and unattractive"...
Zerg delenda est.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
December 29 2011 21:04 GMT
#184
On December 30 2011 02:25 Primadog wrote:
http://www.studcraft2.com/players


No lzgamer and no Mr.bitter? Shame.

@OP, I agree that one day this will matter but I don't think that day is today. Esports isn't big enough. You could argue it would make it bigger, but I think atm it is more important that teams focus on playing better. I'm glad that EG house works out together tho.
stOrpse
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States175 Posts
December 29 2011 21:05 GMT
#185
Why is DayFly on StudCraft? wtffffff
effervescent
Profile Joined May 2011
United States47 Posts
December 29 2011 21:07 GMT
#186
On December 30 2011 06:04 On_Slaught wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2011 02:25 Primadog wrote:
http://www.studcraft2.com/players


No lzgamer and no Mr.bitter? Shame.

@OP, I agree that one day this will matter but I don't think that day is today. Esports isn't big enough. You could argue it would make it bigger, but I think atm it is more important that teams focus on playing better. I'm glad that EG house works out together tho.

I've gotten Lzgamer twice so he's in there. Although I feel guilty because he has a girlfriend... Lol.

I think nerds should try to eat healthily and exercise just because it's good for you. I think people just have difficulty with time management and working out isn't very appealing to many people, so that's why they don't do it. I don't really know how to fix the perspective of progamers Westerners have, I guess it really just starts with individuals wanting to change people's perceptions of them.
kill or be killed.
Ubenn
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada114 Posts
December 29 2011 21:08 GMT
#187
On December 30 2011 05:54 TerlocSG wrote:
I agree with the OP, there is no attraction to gamers by non-gamers in the Western mindset. I don't know how to do it, but South Korea definitely did it and gamers there are much more popular there. I think we honestly just have to get lucky and wait for someone that looks like David Beckham to start playing SC2

EDIT: No offense to ANY pro or amateur players, you're all beautiful.

Some of you are so delusional. Do you honestly think that just one some random day in S Korea everyone just decided that programers would become popular and people would just become fans and put them into the public eye? There are a ton of factors of why SC/BW is as popular as it is/was in S Korea and has nothing to do with "get lucky and wait for someone that looks like David Beckham to start playing SC2 " I hope for your sake you're 14 and don't know that S Korea culture is unlike any other in the world and programers are put onto a pedestal. They have TV stations dedicated to such things. Stop living in your fantasy worlds.
effervescent
Profile Joined May 2011
United States47 Posts
December 29 2011 21:08 GMT
#188
Also, Studcraft pics need to be updated... :/ I think HuK's new hair makes him look muchhh more attractive. <3
kill or be killed.
sechkie
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States334 Posts
December 29 2011 21:11 GMT
#189
On December 30 2011 05:54 TerlocSG wrote:
I agree with the OP, there is no attraction to gamers by non-gamers in the Western mindset. I don't know how to do it, but South Korea definitely did it and gamers there are much more popular there. I think we honestly just have to get lucky and wait for someone that looks like David Beckham to start playing SC2

EDIT: No offense to ANY pro or amateur players, you're all beautiful.


honestly this is why boxer is tthe creator of korean starcraft esports. Boxer has everything, skills, looks, and charisma to lead the scene. The foreign esports scene doesn't really have someone that can hold that mantle,

looks/style? Sase, tasteless(not a progamer),

charisma? Day 9, maybe incontrol

skills: well here there are a few, huk, idra, thorzain, etc.

But look at these three main categories, which foreign progamer can embrace all of these categories and drive the scene forward? This problem is further complicated by the different senses of style from different regions, europeans in general have a metro style (I personally like this style; I'm Korean). Americans have generally poor sense of style (still too much baggy clothes, but is admittely improving).

Also, people must remember that the Korean SC2 scene has not taken off like broodwar has. I think a large part of this is due to the mantle of someone that must drive the scene. This is why boxer received all that sponsorship money when he first switched, had he been successful then it's possible that the scene would have exploded. These successful top tier players all lack in some area.
Nestea: Not good looking
Dongraegu: IMO, not good looking, but he hasn't had the success to make it anyways.
Leenock: Probably too chubby to become the mantle.
MVP: The closest imo, he doesn't have the charisma that boxer has.
MMA: On the rise, but he has a big weakness in his height.
MC: Charisma check, skill check, looks ... not there

I only did a small list but the korean scene also needs a leader, someone who can draw in the crowds and sponsorships in order to flourish like BW has and did.
CaptainTwig
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom532 Posts
December 29 2011 21:11 GMT
#190
On December 30 2011 06:01 QxGRockEr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2011 05:54 CaptainTwig wrote:
The Only foreign progamers that are good looking and have a good understanding of fashion would be;

(P)BlinG
and possibly..
(P)SaSe


I can't think of another progamer that comes close to these two. I'm always suprised when I see how progamers dress, People like TLO, Destiny, Ret, Incontrol etc come across as normal down to earth people but when I see how they dress is makes me think otherwise.


how does their dress make them not "down to earth" or "normal" wtf?

lol


Well I guess it just comes across as strange to me, they are people with their finger on the pulse, yet when it comes dressing they appear (to me) like they don't have a clue what I means to be stylish. Maybe my attitude is a bit too judgemental as I live in South London, where most high streets are like catwalks.
sereniity
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Sweden1159 Posts
December 29 2011 21:15 GMT
#191
On December 30 2011 02:51 The Void wrote:
TBH the Korean scene looks just gay (nothing gainst the sexual orientation) and all look the same like they have all the same parents

the western scene looks... there is no one look! all different - like that more.


hahaha that smily in relation to what you just said made me lol hard...
"I am Day9, Holy shit!"
GeneticToss
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada188 Posts
December 29 2011 21:17 GMT
#192
I don't get how people can think this is a bad idea. I think people are reading this the wrong way, OP didn't mean that programers should dress in a metrosexual way. More likely he just meant that it can't be a bad idea to make conscious efforts to try and get rid of the prejudice that associates gaming with unhealthinessr. Sure this game isn't aimed towards preteen girls, but the whole community is trying to get SC2 to be more mainstream and reaching towards non-traditional demographics is part of that. Of course fans will get hooked for the same reasons we all love the game - > it's great, but before that, there has to be initial contact made and mass appeal helps get more exposure.

At least that's my opinion.

nFo on KGS
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
December 29 2011 21:23 GMT
#193
On December 30 2011 06:11 CaptainTwig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2011 06:01 QxGRockEr wrote:
On December 30 2011 05:54 CaptainTwig wrote:
The Only foreign progamers that are good looking and have a good understanding of fashion would be;

(P)BlinG
and possibly..
(P)SaSe


I can't think of another progamer that comes close to these two. I'm always suprised when I see how progamers dress, People like TLO, Destiny, Ret, Incontrol etc come across as normal down to earth people but when I see how they dress is makes me think otherwise.


how does their dress make them not "down to earth" or "normal" wtf?

lol


Well I guess it just comes across as strange to me, they are people with their finger on the pulse, yet when it comes dressing they appear (to me) like they don't have a clue what I means to be stylish. Maybe my attitude is a bit too judgemental as I live in South London, where most high streets are like catwalks.


I kinda agree with what you say, but not how you articulated it. I wouldn't say what they wear changes if they are down to earth or not. But it's true that there's very few stylish pro-gamers. The Koreans are actually way more stylish when it comes to clothes at least.

Not many look terrible, but their clothing is a bit geekish still. Or ordinary. I wouldn't expect Starcraft nerds that are concentrating most of their time on playing to be with the current fashion trends though tbh, or to care.

I'm from England too though, so maybe it's an American/European thing? I dunno.
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
December 29 2011 21:25 GMT
#194
KEEN #1
Klondikebar
Profile Joined October 2011
United States2227 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-29 21:26:38
December 29 2011 21:26 GMT
#195
On December 30 2011 06:23 TheHova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2011 06:11 CaptainTwig wrote:
On December 30 2011 06:01 QxGRockEr wrote:
On December 30 2011 05:54 CaptainTwig wrote:
The Only foreign progamers that are good looking and have a good understanding of fashion would be;

(P)BlinG
and possibly..
(P)SaSe


I can't think of another progamer that comes close to these two. I'm always suprised when I see how progamers dress, People like TLO, Destiny, Ret, Incontrol etc come across as normal down to earth people but when I see how they dress is makes me think otherwise.


how does their dress make them not "down to earth" or "normal" wtf?

lol


Well I guess it just comes across as strange to me, they are people with their finger on the pulse, yet when it comes dressing they appear (to me) like they don't have a clue what I means to be stylish. Maybe my attitude is a bit too judgemental as I live in South London, where most high streets are like catwalks.


I kinda agree with what you say, but not how you articulated it. I wouldn't say what they wear changes if they are down to earth or not. But it's true that there's very few stylish pro-gamers. The Koreans are actually way more stylish when it comes to clothes at least.

Not many look terrible, but their clothing is a bit geekish still. Or ordinary. I wouldn't expect Starcraft nerds that are concentrating most of their time on playing to be with the current fashion trends though tbh, or to care.

I'm from England too though, so maybe it's an American/European thing? I dunno.


To be fair to most of those progamers, they're probably required to wear their team jersey's when they appear in any sort of SC2 public thingy which is why we mostly see them wearing those shirts and little else. They could have fitted team shirts, but it's kinda hard to feel comfortable in them and you always feel like you have to suck in your stomach.

I will admit that European players do tend to dress better than American ones.
#2throwed
Carlin
Profile Joined February 2011
Norway52 Posts
December 29 2011 21:28 GMT
#196
On December 30 2011 03:19 FrankWalls wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2011 03:08 Doc.Rivers wrote:
On December 30 2011 03:01 Bojas wrote:
On December 30 2011 02:58 Doc.Rivers wrote:
On December 30 2011 02:52 Klondikebar wrote:
On December 30 2011 02:48 bbm wrote:
On December 30 2011 02:22 FrayzZeUsher wrote:
The western idea of hardcore gamers being unnatractive and unhealthy is true for the most part! Likely the reason why there are so few female fans in the foreigner scene compared to the asian scene.

The question is, should there be a concious effort to improve the appearance of western pro gamers? let's talk.


why the fuck do we want fans who are only fans for demuslim's hot sexy body? if we want more sc2 fans, i want them to think of the games first, the glistening pecs 2nd


So let me get this straight...you DON'T want a bunch of hot girls getting incredibly randy around you at an SC2 tournament? I mean, DeMuslim already has a very attractive girlfriend...he's not going to take them. They're there for you



What makes you think there will be "a bunch of hot girls getting incredibly randy around you" if a couple pro gamers go jogging some more? You are probably the kind of nerd who screams "OMG SHE'S SO HOT" every time you see any girl affiliated with a video game.

Looking better isn't only good for girls, better looking people get more exposure then ugly people. So look at the bigger picture. You're most likely not gonna become world ESPORT stars looking like the south park guy in the OP.




Name 5 western progamers who are overweight. What's that, you can only name one or two? Oh, so this entire thread is retarded? Thought so.

well to be fair a lot of the players would probably be considered "overweight" by medical standards. obese or unhealthily overweight though you are probably right

sheth, TT1, totalbiscuit.. Who else?
"hurpa derp, I am logical".
hytonight
Profile Joined April 2011
303 Posts
December 29 2011 21:28 GMT
#197
we've got demuslim and tlo......i have no idea how much more you expect to get.
when in rome...eat the romans.
TheLOLas
Profile Joined May 2011
United States646 Posts
December 29 2011 21:28 GMT
#198
On December 30 2011 02:23 Naniwa wrote:
im up for photoshoot any time.

HA! This made me die laughing. I think the western image issue is not with the eSports community, rather the issue is with the general populace that believes in the gaming stereotypes of poor people who live in their mothers basement. Change their opinions and then we are all set.
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
December 29 2011 21:29 GMT
#199
umm go check me out, so sexy just saying ^_^
JD, need I say more? :D
alwaid
Profile Joined October 2010
United States96 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-30 09:45:42
December 29 2011 21:33 GMT
#200
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