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[VoDs] Leenock's 39 Games at MLG Providence Cast - Page 2
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Alejandrisha
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Silky
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InternalSync
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EDIT: forgot to add, you're funny too, love the lings jokes! ![]() | ||
Lobotomist
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You have quite the caster voice. Kind of a hybrid caster/boxing announcer vibe to it, which is awesome. | ||
ohshiznits
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i've been offracing as zerg and learning from some of the replays i found of leenock in mlg providence but since theres only a couple i've found, this would be helpful too | ||
Sealgoarparp
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SCNobody
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Fruscainte
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ePLocust
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ZhevZS2oM
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FrodoAndTheSlobStix
United States158 Posts
![]() Leenock did superhuman things and just .....would....not.....lose. Magical and he holds the record for the best workers split, let alone split of all time. | ||
Wein
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SCNobody
United States15 Posts
On December 29 2011 13:48 Locustrockz wrote: Hey so you know that slog guy... yea he's another player ![]() Hahaha, oh goodness. Yaaaa, I'm still going to stand by my statements. I feel a little worse about them now, but "Slog"? I mean come on! That's like someone calling themselves Nobody! | ||
VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On December 29 2011 13:33 Fruscainte wrote: Very nice videos, watched ~5 of them so far. My only criticism is this: You seem comfortable on the mic, which is a huge bonus that a lot of "new" commentators don't seem to have, however, you do lose track and stumble a bit at times, or there are some awkward moments of silence. Perhaps previewing games on x4/x8 and taking some small notes before casting so you can have some benchmarks and stay on track? It's a very small criticism, as these are far and few inbetween, but I'm loving this shit. Thank you for casting these games! I disagree. Do NOT pre-watch replays, even if you know the eventual victor. | ||
Fruscainte
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On December 29 2011 14:14 VirgilSC2 wrote: I disagree. Do NOT pre-watch replays, even if you know the eventual victor. What's wrong with it? Yes, you lose certain excitement and emotion that comes with seeing it for the first time -- but it allows for a much smoother and solid commentary on the flip side and who says you can't be excited for something even though you've seen it before? I'd personally prefer a significantly more smooth commentary with a lot more flow to it rather than a bit more excitement. That's just me though, I know plenty disagree ![]() | ||
VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On December 29 2011 14:22 Fruscainte wrote: What's wrong with it? Yes, you lose certain excitement and emotion that comes with seeing it for the first time -- but it allows for a much smoother and solid commentary on the flip side and who says you can't be excited for something even though you've seen it before? I'd personally prefer a significantly more smooth commentary with a lot more flow to it rather than a bit more excitement. That's just me though, I know plenty disagree ![]() Pre-watching replays and then casting them, especially after taking notes about the game would be like pre-watching a football game and then pretending to be an expert analyst before every play. Part of the skill required behind casting is knowing the signs of certain builds or playstyles, which becomes cheapened when you actually know what happens beforehand, much like part of the skill behind being a football commentator is knowing the signs of certain plays. | ||
Fruscainte
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On December 29 2011 14:25 VirgilSC2 wrote: Pre-watching replays and then casting them, especially after taking notes about the game would be like pre-watching a football game and then pretending to be an expert analyst before every play. Part of the skill required behind casting is knowing the signs of certain builds or playstyles, which becomes cheapened when you actually know what happens beforehand, much like part of the skill behind being a football commentator is knowing the signs of certain plays. The only way to become a football "expert" in the first place is to watch tape over and over again and learn the ins and outs. You don't start out as a pro football analyst, you start out much lower and work your way up with the knowledge and social skills needed to do such on national television. I think it's the same thing with Starcraft. Yes, ideally, you get someone like Artosis, Tasteless, Day9, Husky, CatzPajamas, HD, Khaldor, whatever who can do all that shit easily. However, not everyone can mimic that same flow as effectively whilst keeping meaningful commentary up. So I think, at least for a time, perhaps reviewing replays for a short time could be extremely beneficial in the longrun as long as they are not clung too for long. Again, not taking away from this guy. I'm 8 videos in and I'm loving this shit OP. | ||
VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On December 29 2011 14:30 Fruscainte wrote: The only way to become a football "expert" in the first place is to watch tape over and over again and learn the ins and outs. You don't start out as a pro football analyst, you start out much lower and work your way up with the knowledge and social skills needed to do such on national television. I think it's the same thing with Starcraft. Yes, ideally, you get someone like Artosis, Tasteless, Day9, Husky, CatzPajamas, HD, Khaldor, whatever who can do all that shit easily. However, not everyone can mimic that same flow as effectively whilst keeping meaningful commentary up. So I think, at least for a time, perhaps reviewing replays for a short time could be extremely beneficial in the longrun as long as they are not clung too for long. Again, not taking away from this guy. I'm 8 videos in and I'm loving this shit OP. You have a point, but you're implementing it the wrong way. Ideally our OP would spend time cold-casting different replays in order to improve, or to watch other casters and note what they do correctly or incorrectly. Football analysts become experts at live-commentary by practicing live commentary, not travelling to the future, obtaining film of the game they're about to cast, and then practicing it before going back in time to, as Bill O'Reilly would say "do it live" | ||
Fruscainte
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On December 29 2011 14:36 VirgilSC2 wrote: You have a point, but you're implementing it the wrong way. Ideally our OP would spend time cold-casting different replays in order to improve, or to watch other casters and note what they do correctly or incorrectly. Football analysts become experts at live-commentary by practicing live commentary, not travelling to the future, obtaining film of the game they're about to cast, and then practicing it before going back in time to, as Bill O'Reilly would say "do it live" Very true, you have a nice point. To each his own, I suppose. I'll simply respectfully disagree as to not fill up the thread with our banter further. ![]() | ||
SCNobody
United States15 Posts
On December 29 2011 14:36 VirgilSC2 wrote: You have a point, but you're implementing it the wrong way. Ideally our OP would spend time cold-casting different replays in order to improve, or to watch other casters and note what they do correctly or incorrectly. Football analysts become experts at live-commentary by practicing live commentary, not travelling to the future, obtaining film of the game they're about to cast, and then practicing it before going back in time to, as Bill O'Reilly would say "do it live" Ya, I have been trying to find a happy medium between both of these. I did some of the games seeing them for the first time, and some with pre-watching. As I get better, I plan to move almost solely to casting without pre-watching. But keeping a good consistent analytical/entertaining commentary while catching everything that happens by yourself is rather rough. I certainly see both sides to the discussion and will continue working towards casting as though it's live, while keeping good commentary in the background. P.S. I chuckled at the Bill O'Reilly reference ^_^. Edit: Sorry, I took to long to put this up, but I saw your last message too Fruscainte. Glad you guys could come to respectable end. "Nobody" will try to appease all the fans of SC2 as best he can. (Referring to myself in 3rd person for that joke was totally worth it even if it was extremely lame.) | ||
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