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On December 26 2011 14:26 Kieofire wrote:Seems to be DRG according to twitter. Show nested quote +@ottersareneat
alexander garfield
grrr, @MVPDongRaeGu, you ruined the surprise T_T. we weren't going to announce until friday. @SirScoots, what do we do now?
They're obviously trolling...
Wouldn't have made a comment @'tting 2 people otherwise.
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On December 26 2011 14:29 CygnusAres wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2011 14:24 Ruscour wrote:On December 26 2011 14:04 tdt wrote:On December 26 2011 12:58 Catatonic wrote:On December 26 2011 12:05 sekritzzz wrote:On December 26 2011 12:01 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 26 2011 11:48 VirgilSC2 wrote:On December 26 2011 11:45 KevinIX wrote:On December 26 2011 11:44 VirgilSC2 wrote:On December 26 2011 11:41 SafeAsCheese wrote:
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Today I learned that if Player A goes to Team B, then it's always stealing, and a gross violation of morals and ethics.
Thanks Virgil.
Well, there's a huge difference between negotiating a trade between a player who wants to be on a foreign team (Like Sleep) versus throwing piles of cash at a player that likes his current team environment and has risen to stardom on that team. I'm not an EG anti-fan for any reason, but coercing DRG away from MvP is just bad taste no matter how I look at it. I don't see why it would be bad taste? DRG needs the money. EG needs the players. Everyone wins. Neither party actually NEEDS those things. Sure, they may want them, but it's not a necessity. EG could have had a much better business deal signing JYP or Sleep for much less than they would have had to offer DRG to leave MvP. Short and simple, EG likes to sign great players because they can't develop them. EDIT: This is all simply theoretical. I still think JYP is going to EG, not DRG. Lol EG cant develop players? Seriously just knock it off. Just because they have signed great players doesnt mean they cant develop players. People should be happy for the new recruit because it means this player is getting paid good money and will have every opportunity to play in tournaments worldwide. Everyone agrees players need to be treated better. Guess what? EG treats their players great. They support them as much as any team, if not more. EG has yet to develop a single player.... I don't see whats wrong with his comment. If anything ever since players joined EG they seemed to get relatively worst, hence why I don't support EG as a team either. Right so Huk maintaining GSL, IdrA getting invited to Code S, and DeMuslim getting invited to Code A is getting worse an not better? Ummm I think you're rather wrong there man seeing as how IdrA was a Code S level player before leaving Korea an now going back still is means he's about the same an DeMuslim not even being GSL worthy before going to EG now is must say something about their ability to develope and maintain players :l Huk was legitimately via merit in S when he switched to EG. Is he even in Code A now? IdrA was legitimately via merit in Code S now is given a gift spot I think most of us know he won't hold S for even one season. PuMa still languishing in Code B Way I see EG players are getting worse. PuMa has not tried to qualify since joining EG...he is not "languishing", he is winning foreign tournaments... PuMa did try to qualify almost every GSL seasons, you can check liquidpedia for that.
Wrong. He has only tried to qualify once since joining EG.
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hahah xD
i guess we all know already
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So we can cross off DRG, Polt and Jinro :D
JYP or Moon then?
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On December 26 2011 14:29 CygnusAres wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2011 14:24 Ruscour wrote:On December 26 2011 14:04 tdt wrote:On December 26 2011 12:58 Catatonic wrote:On December 26 2011 12:05 sekritzzz wrote:On December 26 2011 12:01 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 26 2011 11:48 VirgilSC2 wrote:On December 26 2011 11:45 KevinIX wrote:On December 26 2011 11:44 VirgilSC2 wrote:On December 26 2011 11:41 SafeAsCheese wrote:
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Today I learned that if Player A goes to Team B, then it's always stealing, and a gross violation of morals and ethics.
Thanks Virgil.
Well, there's a huge difference between negotiating a trade between a player who wants to be on a foreign team (Like Sleep) versus throwing piles of cash at a player that likes his current team environment and has risen to stardom on that team. I'm not an EG anti-fan for any reason, but coercing DRG away from MvP is just bad taste no matter how I look at it. I don't see why it would be bad taste? DRG needs the money. EG needs the players. Everyone wins. Neither party actually NEEDS those things. Sure, they may want them, but it's not a necessity. EG could have had a much better business deal signing JYP or Sleep for much less than they would have had to offer DRG to leave MvP. Short and simple, EG likes to sign great players because they can't develop them. EDIT: This is all simply theoretical. I still think JYP is going to EG, not DRG. Lol EG cant develop players? Seriously just knock it off. Just because they have signed great players doesnt mean they cant develop players. People should be happy for the new recruit because it means this player is getting paid good money and will have every opportunity to play in tournaments worldwide. Everyone agrees players need to be treated better. Guess what? EG treats their players great. They support them as much as any team, if not more. EG has yet to develop a single player.... I don't see whats wrong with his comment. If anything ever since players joined EG they seemed to get relatively worst, hence why I don't support EG as a team either. Right so Huk maintaining GSL, IdrA getting invited to Code S, and DeMuslim getting invited to Code A is getting worse an not better? Ummm I think you're rather wrong there man seeing as how IdrA was a Code S level player before leaving Korea an now going back still is means he's about the same an DeMuslim not even being GSL worthy before going to EG now is must say something about their ability to develope and maintain players :l Huk was legitimately via merit in S when he switched to EG. Is he even in Code A now? IdrA was legitimately via merit in Code S now is given a gift spot I think most of us know he won't hold S for even one season. PuMa still languishing in Code B Way I see EG players are getting worse. PuMa has not tried to qualify since joining EG...he is not "languishing", he is winning foreign tournaments... PuMa did try to qualify almost every GSL seasons, you can check liquidpedia for that.
I think he's only tried it once (November) since he joined EG? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Also, to be fair, he was traveling a whole lot before the November qualifier (Guangzhou [DH] to Philadelphia [IPL] to Arizona to Orlando [MLG] back to Korea) and flew back to Korea only a few days before the preliminaries. I know that fatigue and stress were definitely getting to him. It was also when he just moved into the SlayerS house and was getting himself settled in there.
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Guys, I guess the secret is out....It's me.
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weren't you with like.. clash or something ?
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On December 26 2011 14:45 VirgilSC2 wrote:Guys, I guess the secret is out....It's me.
Traitor!
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On December 26 2011 14:45 VirgilSC2 wrote:Guys, I guess the secret is out....It's me.
who are u?
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On December 26 2011 14:52 Xeris wrote:
weren't you with like.. clash or something ?
Yeah, I was. EG offered me a contract I couldn't refuse.
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On December 26 2011 14:44 Sein wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2011 14:29 CygnusAres wrote:On December 26 2011 14:24 Ruscour wrote:On December 26 2011 14:04 tdt wrote:On December 26 2011 12:58 Catatonic wrote:On December 26 2011 12:05 sekritzzz wrote:On December 26 2011 12:01 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 26 2011 11:48 VirgilSC2 wrote:On December 26 2011 11:45 KevinIX wrote:On December 26 2011 11:44 VirgilSC2 wrote:
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Well, there's a huge difference between negotiating a trade between a player who wants to be on a foreign team (Like Sleep) versus throwing piles of cash at a player that likes his current team environment and has risen to stardom on that team.
I'm not an EG anti-fan for any reason, but coercing DRG away from MvP is just bad taste no matter how I look at it. I don't see why it would be bad taste? DRG needs the money. EG needs the players. Everyone wins. Neither party actually NEEDS those things. Sure, they may want them, but it's not a necessity. EG could have had a much better business deal signing JYP or Sleep for much less than they would have had to offer DRG to leave MvP. Short and simple, EG likes to sign great players because they can't develop them. EDIT: This is all simply theoretical. I still think JYP is going to EG, not DRG. Lol EG cant develop players? Seriously just knock it off. Just because they have signed great players doesnt mean they cant develop players. People should be happy for the new recruit because it means this player is getting paid good money and will have every opportunity to play in tournaments worldwide. Everyone agrees players need to be treated better. Guess what? EG treats their players great. They support them as much as any team, if not more. EG has yet to develop a single player.... I don't see whats wrong with his comment. If anything ever since players joined EG they seemed to get relatively worst, hence why I don't support EG as a team either. Right so Huk maintaining GSL, IdrA getting invited to Code S, and DeMuslim getting invited to Code A is getting worse an not better? Ummm I think you're rather wrong there man seeing as how IdrA was a Code S level player before leaving Korea an now going back still is means he's about the same an DeMuslim not even being GSL worthy before going to EG now is must say something about their ability to develope and maintain players :l Huk was legitimately via merit in S when he switched to EG. Is he even in Code A now? IdrA was legitimately via merit in Code S now is given a gift spot I think most of us know he won't hold S for even one season. PuMa still languishing in Code B Way I see EG players are getting worse. PuMa has not tried to qualify since joining EG...he is not "languishing", he is winning foreign tournaments... PuMa did try to qualify almost every GSL seasons, you can check liquidpedia for that. I think he's only tried it once (November) since he joined EG? Please correct me if I'm wrong. Also, to be fair, he was traveling a whole lot before the November qualifier (Guangzhou [DH] to Philadelphia [IPL] to Arizona to Orlando [MLG] back to Korea) and flew back to Korea only a few days before the preliminaries. I know that fatigue and stress were definitely getting to him. It was also when he just moved into the SlayerS house and was getting himself settled in there.
People need to cut it out with the BS excuse of traveling. It is not a big deal and anyone who travels will tell you that.
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On December 26 2011 12:05 sekritzzz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2011 12:01 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 26 2011 11:48 VirgilSC2 wrote:On December 26 2011 11:45 KevinIX wrote:On December 26 2011 11:44 VirgilSC2 wrote:On December 26 2011 11:41 SafeAsCheese wrote:On December 26 2011 11:40 VirgilSC2 wrote:On December 26 2011 11:37 LEEKsc wrote:http://i.imgur.com/risGO.pngfound this on reddit, so props to whoever posted it! (http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/nqqcn/mvpdrgs_twitter_changed_to_egdrg/) apparently his ID was changed for a couple of minutes, but now its back to MVPDongRaeGu... if it is drg that would be amazing for EG! God, I hope DRG was just trolling. Stealing DRG from MvP is like the worst thing EG could do short of stealing HerO from TeamLiquid. Today I learned that if Player A goes to Team B, then it's always stealing, and a gross violation of morals and ethics. Thanks Virgil. Well, there's a huge difference between negotiating a trade between a player who wants to be on a foreign team (Like Sleep) versus throwing piles of cash at a player that likes his current team environment and has risen to stardom on that team. I'm not an EG anti-fan for any reason, but coercing DRG away from MvP is just bad taste no matter how I look at it. I don't see why it would be bad taste? DRG needs the money. EG needs the players. Everyone wins. Neither party actually NEEDS those things. Sure, they may want them, but it's not a necessity. EG could have had a much better business deal signing JYP or Sleep for much less than they would have had to offer DRG to leave MvP. Short and simple, EG likes to sign great players because they can't develop them. EDIT: This is all simply theoretical. I still think JYP is going to EG, not DRG. Lol EG cant develop players? Seriously just knock it off. Just because they have signed great players doesnt mean they cant develop players. People should be happy for the new recruit because it means this player is getting paid good money and will have every opportunity to play in tournaments worldwide. Everyone agrees players need to be treated better. Guess what? EG treats their players great. They support them as much as any team, if not more. EG has yet to develop a single player.... I don't see whats wrong with his comment. If anything ever since players joined EG they seemed to get relatively worst, hence why I don't support EG as a team either.
DISCLAIMER: Not saying here that EG is the best at developing players (Is anyone besides Korean teams anyway?) but I'm just going to point out some things that counter your argument
Demuslim I'd say was developed as a player, he went from relative obscurity (largely due to the broken are...oh and the other broken arm...) to placing very well at an MLG, and in that placing barely fell to NaDa, and I don't think anyone can argue that that's a bad person to lose to. (Especially since it was a 2-1 series, not even a roflstomp)
Axslav and Strifecro as well have done much much more since being on EG. They both qualified for IEM New York, Axslav made it to playoffs at ESWC. And through the first several weeks of NASL Season 2, Axslav showed some great play, his losses in the early season at least (I couldn't watch many of his games later in the season) were just heartbreakingly close.
On December 26 2011 14:54 RQShatter wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2011 14:44 Sein wrote:On December 26 2011 14:29 CygnusAres wrote:On December 26 2011 14:24 Ruscour wrote:On December 26 2011 14:04 tdt wrote:On December 26 2011 12:58 Catatonic wrote:On December 26 2011 12:05 sekritzzz wrote:On December 26 2011 12:01 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 26 2011 11:48 VirgilSC2 wrote:On December 26 2011 11:45 KevinIX wrote:
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I don't see why it would be bad taste? DRG needs the money. EG needs the players. Everyone wins. Neither party actually NEEDS those things. Sure, they may want them, but it's not a necessity. EG could have had a much better business deal signing JYP or Sleep for much less than they would have had to offer DRG to leave MvP. Short and simple, EG likes to sign great players because they can't develop them. EDIT: This is all simply theoretical. I still think JYP is going to EG, not DRG. Lol EG cant develop players? Seriously just knock it off. Just because they have signed great players doesnt mean they cant develop players. People should be happy for the new recruit because it means this player is getting paid good money and will have every opportunity to play in tournaments worldwide. Everyone agrees players need to be treated better. Guess what? EG treats their players great. They support them as much as any team, if not more. EG has yet to develop a single player.... I don't see whats wrong with his comment. If anything ever since players joined EG they seemed to get relatively worst, hence why I don't support EG as a team either. Right so Huk maintaining GSL, IdrA getting invited to Code S, and DeMuslim getting invited to Code A is getting worse an not better? Ummm I think you're rather wrong there man seeing as how IdrA was a Code S level player before leaving Korea an now going back still is means he's about the same an DeMuslim not even being GSL worthy before going to EG now is must say something about their ability to develope and maintain players :l Huk was legitimately via merit in S when he switched to EG. Is he even in Code A now? IdrA was legitimately via merit in Code S now is given a gift spot I think most of us know he won't hold S for even one season. PuMa still languishing in Code B Way I see EG players are getting worse. PuMa has not tried to qualify since joining EG...he is not "languishing", he is winning foreign tournaments... PuMa did try to qualify almost every GSL seasons, you can check liquidpedia for that. I think he's only tried it once (November) since he joined EG? Please correct me if I'm wrong. Also, to be fair, he was traveling a whole lot before the November qualifier (Guangzhou [DH] to Philadelphia [IPL] to Arizona to Orlando [MLG] back to Korea) and flew back to Korea only a few days before the preliminaries. I know that fatigue and stress were definitely getting to him. It was also when he just moved into the SlayerS house and was getting himself settled in there. People need to cut it out with the BS excuse of traveling. It is not a big deal and anyone who travels will tell you that.
Some deal with travelling better than others, it's certainly not easy on the body. And even if it doesn't affect the mental state so much, if you're jetting around that much you're going to wind up not practicing as much. (They should probably attend fewer tournaments if that's the case, but it's just how it all works out)
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On December 26 2011 14:54 RQShatter wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2011 14:44 Sein wrote:On December 26 2011 14:29 CygnusAres wrote:On December 26 2011 14:24 Ruscour wrote:On December 26 2011 14:04 tdt wrote:On December 26 2011 12:58 Catatonic wrote:On December 26 2011 12:05 sekritzzz wrote:On December 26 2011 12:01 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 26 2011 11:48 VirgilSC2 wrote:On December 26 2011 11:45 KevinIX wrote:
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I don't see why it would be bad taste? DRG needs the money. EG needs the players. Everyone wins. Neither party actually NEEDS those things. Sure, they may want them, but it's not a necessity. EG could have had a much better business deal signing JYP or Sleep for much less than they would have had to offer DRG to leave MvP. Short and simple, EG likes to sign great players because they can't develop them. EDIT: This is all simply theoretical. I still think JYP is going to EG, not DRG. Lol EG cant develop players? Seriously just knock it off. Just because they have signed great players doesnt mean they cant develop players. People should be happy for the new recruit because it means this player is getting paid good money and will have every opportunity to play in tournaments worldwide. Everyone agrees players need to be treated better. Guess what? EG treats their players great. They support them as much as any team, if not more. EG has yet to develop a single player.... I don't see whats wrong with his comment. If anything ever since players joined EG they seemed to get relatively worst, hence why I don't support EG as a team either. Right so Huk maintaining GSL, IdrA getting invited to Code S, and DeMuslim getting invited to Code A is getting worse an not better? Ummm I think you're rather wrong there man seeing as how IdrA was a Code S level player before leaving Korea an now going back still is means he's about the same an DeMuslim not even being GSL worthy before going to EG now is must say something about their ability to develope and maintain players :l Huk was legitimately via merit in S when he switched to EG. Is he even in Code A now? IdrA was legitimately via merit in Code S now is given a gift spot I think most of us know he won't hold S for even one season. PuMa still languishing in Code B Way I see EG players are getting worse. PuMa has not tried to qualify since joining EG...he is not "languishing", he is winning foreign tournaments... PuMa did try to qualify almost every GSL seasons, you can check liquidpedia for that. I think he's only tried it once (November) since he joined EG? Please correct me if I'm wrong. Also, to be fair, he was traveling a whole lot before the November qualifier (Guangzhou [DH] to Philadelphia [IPL] to Arizona to Orlando [MLG] back to Korea) and flew back to Korea only a few days before the preliminaries. I know that fatigue and stress were definitely getting to him. It was also when he just moved into the SlayerS house and was getting himself settled in there. People need to cut it out with the BS excuse of traveling. It is not a big deal and anyone who travels will tell you that.
Lol wut? Pretty sure every pro who travels will tell you the opposite.
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On December 26 2011 14:54 RQShatter wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2011 14:44 Sein wrote:On December 26 2011 14:29 CygnusAres wrote:On December 26 2011 14:24 Ruscour wrote:On December 26 2011 14:04 tdt wrote:On December 26 2011 12:58 Catatonic wrote:On December 26 2011 12:05 sekritzzz wrote:On December 26 2011 12:01 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 26 2011 11:48 VirgilSC2 wrote:On December 26 2011 11:45 KevinIX wrote:
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I don't see why it would be bad taste? DRG needs the money. EG needs the players. Everyone wins. Neither party actually NEEDS those things. Sure, they may want them, but it's not a necessity. EG could have had a much better business deal signing JYP or Sleep for much less than they would have had to offer DRG to leave MvP. Short and simple, EG likes to sign great players because they can't develop them. EDIT: This is all simply theoretical. I still think JYP is going to EG, not DRG. Lol EG cant develop players? Seriously just knock it off. Just because they have signed great players doesnt mean they cant develop players. People should be happy for the new recruit because it means this player is getting paid good money and will have every opportunity to play in tournaments worldwide. Everyone agrees players need to be treated better. Guess what? EG treats their players great. They support them as much as any team, if not more. EG has yet to develop a single player.... I don't see whats wrong with his comment. If anything ever since players joined EG they seemed to get relatively worst, hence why I don't support EG as a team either. Right so Huk maintaining GSL, IdrA getting invited to Code S, and DeMuslim getting invited to Code A is getting worse an not better? Ummm I think you're rather wrong there man seeing as how IdrA was a Code S level player before leaving Korea an now going back still is means he's about the same an DeMuslim not even being GSL worthy before going to EG now is must say something about their ability to develope and maintain players :l Huk was legitimately via merit in S when he switched to EG. Is he even in Code A now? IdrA was legitimately via merit in Code S now is given a gift spot I think most of us know he won't hold S for even one season. PuMa still languishing in Code B Way I see EG players are getting worse. PuMa has not tried to qualify since joining EG...he is not "languishing", he is winning foreign tournaments... PuMa did try to qualify almost every GSL seasons, you can check liquidpedia for that. I think he's only tried it once (November) since he joined EG? Please correct me if I'm wrong. Also, to be fair, he was traveling a whole lot before the November qualifier (Guangzhou [DH] to Philadelphia [IPL] to Arizona to Orlando [MLG] back to Korea) and flew back to Korea only a few days before the preliminaries. I know that fatigue and stress were definitely getting to him. It was also when he just moved into the SlayerS house and was getting himself settled in there. People need to cut it out with the BS excuse of traveling. It is not a big deal and anyone who travels will tell you that.
I'm sorry, but not everyone deals with it perfectly like you apparently can...
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On December 26 2011 14:54 RQShatter wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2011 14:44 Sein wrote:On December 26 2011 14:29 CygnusAres wrote:On December 26 2011 14:24 Ruscour wrote:On December 26 2011 14:04 tdt wrote:On December 26 2011 12:58 Catatonic wrote:On December 26 2011 12:05 sekritzzz wrote:On December 26 2011 12:01 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 26 2011 11:48 VirgilSC2 wrote:On December 26 2011 11:45 KevinIX wrote:
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I don't see why it would be bad taste? DRG needs the money. EG needs the players. Everyone wins. Neither party actually NEEDS those things. Sure, they may want them, but it's not a necessity. EG could have had a much better business deal signing JYP or Sleep for much less than they would have had to offer DRG to leave MvP. Short and simple, EG likes to sign great players because they can't develop them. EDIT: This is all simply theoretical. I still think JYP is going to EG, not DRG. Lol EG cant develop players? Seriously just knock it off. Just because they have signed great players doesnt mean they cant develop players. People should be happy for the new recruit because it means this player is getting paid good money and will have every opportunity to play in tournaments worldwide. Everyone agrees players need to be treated better. Guess what? EG treats their players great. They support them as much as any team, if not more. EG has yet to develop a single player.... I don't see whats wrong with his comment. If anything ever since players joined EG they seemed to get relatively worst, hence why I don't support EG as a team either. Right so Huk maintaining GSL, IdrA getting invited to Code S, and DeMuslim getting invited to Code A is getting worse an not better? Ummm I think you're rather wrong there man seeing as how IdrA was a Code S level player before leaving Korea an now going back still is means he's about the same an DeMuslim not even being GSL worthy before going to EG now is must say something about their ability to develope and maintain players :l Huk was legitimately via merit in S when he switched to EG. Is he even in Code A now? IdrA was legitimately via merit in Code S now is given a gift spot I think most of us know he won't hold S for even one season. PuMa still languishing in Code B Way I see EG players are getting worse. PuMa has not tried to qualify since joining EG...he is not "languishing", he is winning foreign tournaments... PuMa did try to qualify almost every GSL seasons, you can check liquidpedia for that. I think he's only tried it once (November) since he joined EG? Please correct me if I'm wrong. Also, to be fair, he was traveling a whole lot before the November qualifier (Guangzhou [DH] to Philadelphia [IPL] to Arizona to Orlando [MLG] back to Korea) and flew back to Korea only a few days before the preliminaries. I know that fatigue and stress were definitely getting to him. It was also when he just moved into the SlayerS house and was getting himself settled in there. People need to cut it out with the BS excuse of traveling. It is not a big deal and anyone who travels will tell you that.
You obviously don't know what your talking about, players who attend major LAN's back to back almost always mention how they are fatigued or jet lagged. Not to mention you spend many days traveling getting no practice in. That is why some players do not play in everything, they prefer to be more prepared.
Traveling in general is very tiring, doing it a multiple times in a month or 2 is rough. I've only been to a single MLG and I can tell you I had issues from being tired. Not to mention that 2 days prior to the event I didn't get to play at all.
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On December 26 2011 15:02 PhiliBiRD wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2011 14:54 RQShatter wrote:On December 26 2011 14:44 Sein wrote:On December 26 2011 14:29 CygnusAres wrote:On December 26 2011 14:24 Ruscour wrote:On December 26 2011 14:04 tdt wrote:On December 26 2011 12:58 Catatonic wrote:On December 26 2011 12:05 sekritzzz wrote:On December 26 2011 12:01 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 26 2011 11:48 VirgilSC2 wrote:
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Neither party actually NEEDS those things. Sure, they may want them, but it's not a necessity. EG could have had a much better business deal signing JYP or Sleep for much less than they would have had to offer DRG to leave MvP.
Short and simple, EG likes to sign great players because they can't develop them.
EDIT: This is all simply theoretical. I still think JYP is going to EG, not DRG. Lol EG cant develop players? Seriously just knock it off. Just because they have signed great players doesnt mean they cant develop players. People should be happy for the new recruit because it means this player is getting paid good money and will have every opportunity to play in tournaments worldwide. Everyone agrees players need to be treated better. Guess what? EG treats their players great. They support them as much as any team, if not more. EG has yet to develop a single player.... I don't see whats wrong with his comment. If anything ever since players joined EG they seemed to get relatively worst, hence why I don't support EG as a team either. Right so Huk maintaining GSL, IdrA getting invited to Code S, and DeMuslim getting invited to Code A is getting worse an not better? Ummm I think you're rather wrong there man seeing as how IdrA was a Code S level player before leaving Korea an now going back still is means he's about the same an DeMuslim not even being GSL worthy before going to EG now is must say something about their ability to develope and maintain players :l Huk was legitimately via merit in S when he switched to EG. Is he even in Code A now? IdrA was legitimately via merit in Code S now is given a gift spot I think most of us know he won't hold S for even one season. PuMa still languishing in Code B Way I see EG players are getting worse. PuMa has not tried to qualify since joining EG...he is not "languishing", he is winning foreign tournaments... PuMa did try to qualify almost every GSL seasons, you can check liquidpedia for that. I think he's only tried it once (November) since he joined EG? Please correct me if I'm wrong. Also, to be fair, he was traveling a whole lot before the November qualifier (Guangzhou [DH] to Philadelphia [IPL] to Arizona to Orlando [MLG] back to Korea) and flew back to Korea only a few days before the preliminaries. I know that fatigue and stress were definitely getting to him. It was also when he just moved into the SlayerS house and was getting himself settled in there. People need to cut it out with the BS excuse of traveling. It is not a big deal and anyone who travels will tell you that. You obviously don't know what your talking about, players who attend major LAN's back to back almost always mention how they are fatigued or jet lagged. Not to mention you spend many days traveling getting no practice in. That is why some players do not play in everything, they prefer to be more prepared. Traveling in general is very tiring, doing it a multiple times in a month or 2 is rough. I've only been to a single MLG and I can tell you I had issues from being tired. Not to mention that 2 days prior to the event I didn't get to play at all.
Yes but who is forcing them to travel? Def. not us.
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On December 26 2011 15:02 PhiliBiRD wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2011 14:54 RQShatter wrote:On December 26 2011 14:44 Sein wrote:On December 26 2011 14:29 CygnusAres wrote:On December 26 2011 14:24 Ruscour wrote:On December 26 2011 14:04 tdt wrote:On December 26 2011 12:58 Catatonic wrote:On December 26 2011 12:05 sekritzzz wrote:On December 26 2011 12:01 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 26 2011 11:48 VirgilSC2 wrote:
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Neither party actually NEEDS those things. Sure, they may want them, but it's not a necessity. EG could have had a much better business deal signing JYP or Sleep for much less than they would have had to offer DRG to leave MvP.
Short and simple, EG likes to sign great players because they can't develop them.
EDIT: This is all simply theoretical. I still think JYP is going to EG, not DRG. Lol EG cant develop players? Seriously just knock it off. Just because they have signed great players doesnt mean they cant develop players. People should be happy for the new recruit because it means this player is getting paid good money and will have every opportunity to play in tournaments worldwide. Everyone agrees players need to be treated better. Guess what? EG treats their players great. They support them as much as any team, if not more. EG has yet to develop a single player.... I don't see whats wrong with his comment. If anything ever since players joined EG they seemed to get relatively worst, hence why I don't support EG as a team either. Right so Huk maintaining GSL, IdrA getting invited to Code S, and DeMuslim getting invited to Code A is getting worse an not better? Ummm I think you're rather wrong there man seeing as how IdrA was a Code S level player before leaving Korea an now going back still is means he's about the same an DeMuslim not even being GSL worthy before going to EG now is must say something about their ability to develope and maintain players :l Huk was legitimately via merit in S when he switched to EG. Is he even in Code A now? IdrA was legitimately via merit in Code S now is given a gift spot I think most of us know he won't hold S for even one season. PuMa still languishing in Code B Way I see EG players are getting worse. PuMa has not tried to qualify since joining EG...he is not "languishing", he is winning foreign tournaments... PuMa did try to qualify almost every GSL seasons, you can check liquidpedia for that. I think he's only tried it once (November) since he joined EG? Please correct me if I'm wrong. Also, to be fair, he was traveling a whole lot before the November qualifier (Guangzhou [DH] to Philadelphia [IPL] to Arizona to Orlando [MLG] back to Korea) and flew back to Korea only a few days before the preliminaries. I know that fatigue and stress were definitely getting to him. It was also when he just moved into the SlayerS house and was getting himself settled in there. People need to cut it out with the BS excuse of traveling. It is not a big deal and anyone who travels will tell you that. You obviously don't know what your talking about, players who attend major LAN's back to back almost always mention how they are fatigued or jet lagged. Not to mention you spend many days traveling getting no practice in. That is why some players do not play in everything, they prefer to be more prepared. Traveling in general is very tiring, doing it a multiple times in a month or 2 is rough. I've only been to a single MLG and I can tell you I had issues from being tired. Not to mention that 2 days prior to the event I didn't get to play at all.
While I agree that traveling can be exhausting, let's be realistic here. Professional tennis players don't blame losses on jet lag or being tired, and they play grueling 2-3 hour long tennis matches. If they want to avoid "jet lag" they can arrive a few days earlier and reduce jet lag. Saying people are exhausted from travel when all they have to do is sit down at a computer for a couple of hours, and yet professional sports players don't say anything about jet lag is absurd. If SC2 is to become an "e-sport" we need to stop babying and protecting players for something that isn't as bad as other sports have it.
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