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MMA, GSL Tour Prize income exceeds over $100,000
The Little Emperor,  MMA (SlayerS) is about to have a very happy holidays after winning over $100,000 from GSL Tour overall.
On the 17th in Seoul, the 2011 GSL Blizzard Cup was held between MMA and  DongRaeGu (coLMVP) where MMA won after a very close game 4:3.
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From the Blizzard Cup, MMA has won 40,000,000 Won (approximately $34527.)
Before the Blizzard Cup, MMA was ranked 7th with having won 86,200,000 Won (approx. $74406) from GSL Tour. But by winning the 2011 GSL Blizzard Cup, MMA has now won total of 126,200,000 Won ($108933) from the GSL becoming 4th in the GSL Tour Prize Income Ranking. MMA has now joined the 100 Million Won club, which consists of FruitDealer, NesTea (IM),  MC (oGs), MVP (IM), Polt (TSL).
On the other hand, DongRaeGu was hoping to win for the first time in GSL tour had to settle for the second place and settle with the 10,000,000 Won ($8631) and is now ranked 30th in the GSL Tour Prize Income Ranking.
GSL Tour Prize Income Ranking
1. NesTea 223,800,000 Won ($193180)
2. MC 176,000,000 Won ($151920)
3. MVP 167,500,000 Won ($144583)
4. MMA 126,200,000 Won ($108933)
5. Polt 119,800,000 Won ($103409)
6. FruitDealer 112,000,000 Won ($96676.7200)
7. MarineKing 87,500,000 Won ($75528)
8. Jjakji 52,400,000 Won ($45230)
9. RainBOw 45,700,000 Won ($39447)
10. TOP 41,700,000 Won ($35994)
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Way to fucking spoil the game for everyone, just by the stupid title. UGH.
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come on man and I was just getting ready to watch the entire series.. ffs
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so much moneys....
and yea major spoiler
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Considering how the prize pool difference between 1st and 2nd place is huge, this is sort of spoiling the results indirectly.
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On December 18 2011 09:02 daxile wrote:
come on man and I was just getting ready to watch the entire series.. ffs
Then why the hell do you read news on STARCAFT website.
Why are people always surprised about finding spoilers on biggest website of SC. This always bugs me.
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On December 18 2011 09:01 pm_squad wrote:
Way to fucking spoil the game for everyone, just by the stupid title. UGH.
Way to fucking go on the biggest STARCRAFT TWO SITE in the english speaking world if you're not wanting spoilers for the BIGGEST STARCRAFT TWO GAME OF THE MONTH.
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On December 18 2011 09:01 pm_squad wrote:
Way to fucking spoil the game for everyone, just by the stupid title. UGH.
On December 18 2011 09:02 daxile wrote:
come on man and I was just getting ready to watch the entire series.. ffs
actually, the second place gets prize money too, or do u know how much each player has made all the time lol? :p
just ppl waiting for the sligthest chacne to whine about spoilers. you are probably lying too
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On December 18 2011 09:04 mtn wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 09:02 daxile wrote:
come on man and I was just getting ready to watch the entire series.. ffs Then why the hell do you read news on STARCAFT website. Why are people always surprised about finding spoilers on biggest website of SC. This always bugs me.
It doesn't matter, I didn't WANT to read starcraft news, TL just so happens to be my homepage and when my eyes look to the side and under SC2 General I see something like this title, it becomes fairly obvious who won the blizz cup..
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You should of posted this as GSL prize income rankings or something along this sort, and a spoiler in the op.
Welp, good job spoiling those around here.
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Needs spoiler alert, but congratulations to MMA!
lol FruitDealer was so close...
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lololol
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On December 18 2011 09:06 daxile wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 09:04 mtn wrote:On December 18 2011 09:02 daxile wrote:
come on man and I was just getting ready to watch the entire series.. ffs Then why the hell do you read news on STARCAFT website. Why are people always surprised about finding spoilers on biggest website of SC. This always bugs me. It doesn't matter, I didn't WANT to read starcraft news, TL just so happens to be my homepage and when my eyes look to the side and under SC2 General I see something like this title, it becomes fairly obvious who won the blizz cup..
The title was meaningless without the content, you came here looking to be spoiled.
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Wow reading the title, I first thought MMA left slayers and joined an other team
Gratz to MMA
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On December 18 2011 09:01 pm_squad wrote:
Way to fucking spoil the game for everyone, just by the stupid title. UGH.
Get off TL until you watch the games if you don't want to get spoiled.
Also, unless you're keeping very close track of MMA's winnings, 2nd place was possibly enough for him to exceed $100k. How do you know for sure that you were spoiled?
Oh, you clicked on the tread like an idiot. Good job.
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How does MC have more money than MVP? That is weird seeing as how MVP has won more championships.
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nice write up but would of been better tommorow
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Everyone knows TL is the biggest sc2 website in the world. If you've been here before, you know that there is always a spoiler thread after every major event, and if you didn't know that, you should expect there to be one, come on, this is THE BIGGEST sc2 website in the world. If you still come here before watching the match, it's your fault.
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On December 18 2011 09:01 pm_squad wrote:
Way to fucking spoil the game for everyone, just by the stupid title. UGH.
how stupid can u be to go to TL before watching the matches comon i watched then today when i got up think i went browsing TL first?
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On December 18 2011 09:06 daxile wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 09:04 mtn wrote:On December 18 2011 09:02 daxile wrote:
come on man and I was just getting ready to watch the entire series.. ffs Then why the hell do you read news on STARCAFT website. Why are people always surprised about finding spoilers on biggest website of SC. This always bugs me. It doesn't matter, I didn't WANT to read starcraft news, TL just so happens to be my homepage and when my eyes look to the side and under SC2 General I see something like this title, it becomes fairly obvious who won the blizz cup..
Ok, then change your home page.
Any other problems I can assist you with today?
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On December 18 2011 09:09 Kieofire wrote:
How does MC have more money than MVP? That is weird seeing as how MVP has won more championships.
More foreign tournies.
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On December 18 2011 09:01 pm_squad wrote:
Way to fucking spoil the game for everyone, just by the stupid title. UGH.
Don't come to TL if you don't like spoilers. Honestly, the games were good enough anyway where the spoils don't matter. Spoilers haven't mattered in any other "sport" either. Please stop crying over spilled milk.
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The title doesn't directly spoil the finals, MMA has won a GSL before and has placed highly in numerous other GSLs. You guys need to stop fucking bitching about spoilers when you are the ones who clicked on the thread.
Also, gratz to MMA and thanks for all the translations that you do ^^
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ooops my apologizes. i am somewhat new to this and i did not know people are this sensitive to spoilers.. ill be careful next time and try to get it fixed asap. my apologies.
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On December 18 2011 09:10 musai wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 09:09 Kieofire wrote:
How does MC have more money than MVP? That is weird seeing as how MVP has won more championships. More foreign tournies.
But this is the GSL prize money, not all tournaments.
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guys I turned on espn and they spoiled every nfl game result from last week. I was so mad. Who do they think they are?
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Congrats to MMA it's amazing some of these #s are so high. Just from GSL too, crazy.
Everyone else needs to stop complaining about spoilers. Honestly, what do you expect after the series is finished. Will continue to confuse and blow my mind q_q~
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On December 18 2011 09:09 Kieofire wrote:
How does MC have more money than MVP? That is weird seeing as how MVP has won more championships.
MC and Nestea won an open season
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On December 18 2011 09:11 yoonstar91 wrote:
ooops my apologizes. i am somewhat new to this and i did not know people are this sensitive to spoilers.. ill be careful next time and try to get it fixed asap. my apologies.
Don't be sorry. If this spoils the result for someone, it's completely their fault!
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On December 18 2011 09:09 Kieofire wrote:
How does MC have more money than MVP? That is weird seeing as how MVP has won more championships.
he won an open season
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On December 18 2011 09:11 Kieofire wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 09:10 musai wrote:On December 18 2011 09:09 Kieofire wrote:
How does MC have more money than MVP? That is weird seeing as how MVP has won more championships. More foreign tournies. But this is the GSL prize money, not all tournaments.
One of MC's wins was in the open season, which had a lot more prize money than Code S seasons do.
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On December 18 2011 09:09 Kieofire wrote:
How does MC have more money than MVP? That is weird seeing as how MVP has won more championships.
MC won one of the higher prize pool ones a long time ago (almost 100k)
He is actually lower though due to other tourney
http://sc2earnings.com/
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On December 18 2011 09:11 yoonstar91 wrote:
ooops my apologizes. i am somewhat new to this and i did not know people are this sensitive to spoilers.. ill be careful next time and try to get it fixed asap. my apologies.
Nice article, I wouldn't worry about it. I bet 90%+ of people who cry about spoilers enjoy playing the victim role and are actually looking to get spoiled results so that they can then make posts of e-outrage. It's seriously like the e-sports version of Munchausen's syndrome.
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lol, I knew when I saw this. Someone would be spoiled by the title. It's too easy to come to that conclusion.
Btw, these are just GSL money rankings.
For a more accurate worldwide money ranking, try this: http://www.sc2earnings.com
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Ah alright thanks everyone for telling me that it is because of the open season.
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On December 18 2011 09:11 cvt wrote:
guys I turned on espn and they spoiled every nfl game result from last week. I was so mad. Who do they think they are?
i know right? people have got to stop whining about spoilers when they come to this site a day after a huge tournament finals. It wasn't even featured or spotlighted, it's just down in the sidebar! if you don't want your game to be spoiled, avoid ANY PLACE where starcraft 2 is discussed until you've watched the games. i thought that was common sense?
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Change the title, I'm not one of the unlucky ones as I've seen the games already but still. It's never fun to get spoiled 
Awesome for MMA, he moved pass Puma too
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On December 18 2011 09:11 zyzq wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 09:09 Kieofire wrote:
How does MC have more money than MVP? That is weird seeing as how MVP has won more championships. MC and Nestea won an open season
Not only that, MVP won GSL WC, which had a much lower prize pool even when compared to the normal seasons.
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On December 18 2011 09:16 JoeAWESOME wrote:Change the title, I'm not one of the unlucky ones as I've seen the games already but still. It's never fun to get spoiled Awesome for MMA, he moved pass Puma too
Don't come to TL if you don't like spoilers. Honestly, the games were good enough anyway where the spoils don't matter. Spoilers haven't mattered in any other "sport" either. Please stop crying over spilled milk. Have some self control.
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On December 18 2011 09:10 Frozenhelfire wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 09:01 pm_squad wrote:
Way to fucking spoil the game for everyone, just by the stupid title. UGH. Don't come to TL if you don't like spoilers. Honestly, the games were good enough anyway where the spoils don't matter. Spoilers haven't mattered in any other "sport" either. Please stop crying over spilled milk.
It does kinda ruin the anticipation at the end of the last game though. But yeah, you shouldn't be coming to TL if you don't want to be spoiled.
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On December 18 2011 09:14 fuzzy_panda wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 09:11 cvt wrote:
guys I turned on espn and they spoiled every nfl game result from last week. I was so mad. Who do they think they are? i know right? people have got to stop whining about spoilers when they come to this site a day after a huge tournament finals. It wasn't even featured or spotlighted, it's just down in the sidebar! if you don't want your game to be spoiled, avoid ANY PLACE where starcraft 2 is discussed until you've watched the games. i thought that was common sense?
Common sense is not that common in the internet.
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On December 18 2011 09:01 pm_squad wrote:
Way to fucking spoil the game for everyone, just by the stupid title. UGH.
Why do people read SC2 news websites when they dont want to get spoilered..... Its like reading the newspaper and compain about it containing spoilers what happened yesterday..
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There is a lot of money there and yes for ppl who don't get spoiled GO WATCH IT, before coming here to TL. It's time to end this meaningless spoilers... we suffered more than enough.
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Man that is quite the year for Nestea
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On December 18 2011 09:11 cvt wrote:
guys I turned on espn and they spoiled every nfl game result from last week. I was so mad. Who do they think they are?
ESPN doesn't have a rule about spoiling games in thread titles. Read the rules before you post on forums:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=17883
TL.Net Ten Commandments2. THOU SHALL OBSERVE FORUM ETIQUETTE- Don't be an attention whore and give away the results of games, sporting events, movie endings, etc. in the title of the thread/post. Also, if you're going to reveal stuff in the body of your post, then be decent enough to use the + Show Spoiler +
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Are people seriously bitching about spoilers on a Starcraft 2 site? Are you fucking serious?
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On December 18 2011 09:19 pdd wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 09:10 Frozenhelfire wrote:On December 18 2011 09:01 pm_squad wrote:
Way to fucking spoil the game for everyone, just by the stupid title. UGH. Don't come to TL if you don't like spoilers. Honestly, the games were good enough anyway where the spoils don't matter. Spoilers haven't mattered in any other "sport" either. Please stop crying over spilled milk. It does kinda ruin the anticipation at the end of the last game though. But yeah, you shouldn't be coming to TL if you don't want to be spoiled.
Besides, it's not like it says "MMA joins the $100,000 GSL Tour Prize Income Club by winning Blizzard Cup 2011". It's not a true spoiler unless you've been keeping close track of how much MMA has made in the GSL. Second gets a good chunk of prize money too.
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Nice one spoiling the game for everyone that hasn't seen it...
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On December 18 2011 09:16 JoeAWESOME wrote:Change the title, I'm not one of the unlucky ones as I've seen the games already but still. It's never fun to get spoiled Awesome for MMA, he moved pass Puma too
how exactly does the title spoil ?
and puma hasnt won shit from gsl.
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The spoiler thing sort of confuses me. I mean, I understand the sentiment just not how many people share it. When I'm not home and the Man U game is on I ask what's the score. When the Carl Froch and Andre Ward fight is over tonight and I'm not home I'm gonna ask who won and how did it go. I don't think it's the tournament factor, either... the world cup isn't like this. Just interesting to me. : )
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Title is fine. We had a big poll about this not too long ago, and I seem to remember it being massively in favour if ending the spoiler hysteria. If you want to avoid Starcraft 2 spoilers that much, don't go to the biggest Starcraft 2 site.
And even if you don't agree with that, how does this thread title spoil anything? The only way it does is if you for some reason know exactly how much MMA has made, and that it wouldn't put him over with a second place finish. And anyway, if you actually click on the thread and read the OP, you deserve to be spoiled.
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People whining about spoilers are starting to get really out of hand. You know well enough that you're greatly increasing the chances of the results being spoiled if you come to a site like this so why would you do it and then complain about it? The world doesn't move on your personal schedule. If you care that much about avoiding spoilers take up the responsibility yourself to avoid them rather than bitch about people not catering to you.
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On December 18 2011 09:02 daxile wrote:
come on man and I was just getting ready to watch the entire series.. ffs
Stop browsing TL before watching a major series, what the hell happened to common sense.
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... everyone saying thanks for spoiling it...
1. Why haven't you watched it yet
2. if we want E-Sports to grow we are going to need to realize that spoilers won't exist just like in other professional sports. Does ESPN or any other sports show/magazine/newspaper ever have spoilers? No. They tell you straight up because that is how it is.
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On December 18 2011 09:23 Gentso wrote:
The spoiler thing sort of confuses me. I mean, I understand the sentiment just not how many people share it. When I'm not home and the Man U game is on I ask what's the score. When the Carl Froch and Andre Ward fight is over tonight and I'm not home I'm gonna ask who won and how did it go. I don't think it's the tournament factor, either... the world cup isn't like this. Just interesting to me. : )
Thats how i feel, if i know its live somewhere(or it already happened), i need to know the score. I've never been able to stay away from a LR thread if for example GSL is going on.
What confuses me is that people complain about spoilers when they visit a starcraft 2 news website.......
Maybe teamliquid.net needs to announce a policy of their stance on the whole spoiler thing.
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On December 18 2011 09:19 Frozenhelfire wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 09:16 JoeAWESOME wrote:Change the title, I'm not one of the unlucky ones as I've seen the games already but still. It's never fun to get spoiled Awesome for MMA, he moved pass Puma too Don't come to TL if you don't like spoilers. Honestly, the games were good enough anyway where the spoils don't matter. Spoilers haven't mattered in any other "sport" either. Please stop crying over spilled milk. Have some self control.
hm its not like you would watch the recording of a soccer game even if you didnt know the results so its kinda silly to complare sc2 to real sports in this regard
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It's like people walk into a minefield and when their legs are blown off they yell out "don't plant mines here!"
Spoiler alert:
TL is full of spoilers.
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On December 18 2011 09:22 sopas wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 09:16 JoeAWESOME wrote:Change the title, I'm not one of the unlucky ones as I've seen the games already but still. It's never fun to get spoiled Awesome for MMA, he moved pass Puma too how exactly does the title spoil ? and puma hasnt won shit from gsl.
Counting all tournaments worldwide, MMA has just overtaken the 4th top earner spot from Puma.
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On December 18 2011 09:11 cvt wrote:
guys I turned on espn and they spoiled every nfl game result from last week. I was so mad. Who do they think they are?
OH GOD. SUE THEM. TAKE THEM DOWN.
THOSE INSENSITIVE JERKS
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Just curious, what is the rule for when results of finals are no longer spoiler-able? Or is there no rule? Just people complaining? Genuinely curious, not trolling...
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And THIS is why you dont come to a site like TL if you're so bloody delicate about spoilers...
Get over it, or avoid the site when there are big matches going on that you arent able to watch live... It's not hard.
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On December 18 2011 09:26 sVnteen wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 09:19 Frozenhelfire wrote:On December 18 2011 09:16 JoeAWESOME wrote:Change the title, I'm not one of the unlucky ones as I've seen the games already but still. It's never fun to get spoiled Awesome for MMA, he moved pass Puma too Don't come to TL if you don't like spoilers. Honestly, the games were good enough anyway where the spoils don't matter. Spoilers haven't mattered in any other "sport" either. Please stop crying over spilled milk. Have some self control. hm its not like you would watch the recording of a soccer game even if you didnt know the results so its kinda silly to complare sc2 to real sports in this regard
That is just your opinion but for me and I would assume a lot of other people if they heard the outcome of Barcelona vs Real Madrid they would still watch it because it is bound to be one of the best games of all time.
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Congrats to MMA, we're dangerously close to having an all-Korean Top 10 all-time SC2 tournament winning earners.
On December 18 2011 09:26 sVnteen wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 09:19 Frozenhelfire wrote:On December 18 2011 09:16 JoeAWESOME wrote:Change the title, I'm not one of the unlucky ones as I've seen the games already but still. It's never fun to get spoiled Awesome for MMA, he moved pass Puma too Don't come to TL if you don't like spoilers. Honestly, the games were good enough anyway where the spoils don't matter. Spoilers haven't mattered in any other "sport" either. Please stop crying over spilled milk. Have some self control. hm its not like you would watch the recording of a soccer game even if you didnt know the results so its kinda silly to complare sc2 to real sports in this regard
You'll still want to watch the weekly highlights of the league, so it's the exact same situation. Browsing the biggest Starcraft 2 news site in the world before having watched the finals of one of the major tournaments... I have no sympathies for people who are that careless/dumb.
Complaining about spoilers just makes people look obnoxious and stupid. Doesn't reflect well on you if you can't keep away from relevant sites for the couple hours it takes you to watch the series.
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On December 18 2011 09:29 FallDownMarigold wrote:
Just curious, what is the rule for when results of finals are no longer spoiler-able? Or is there no rule? Just people complaining? Genuinely curious, not trolling...
use common sense. the next day; probably not a good idea. a few days later; probably okay. give people in different time zones some time to watch before you spoil it.
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talk about a top-heavy pricepool distribution...
though probably couldn't do much considering that the tournament started with the ro10.
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On December 18 2011 09:26 Chargelot wrote:
It's like people walk into a minefield and when their legs are blown off they yell out "don't plant mines here!"
Spoiler alert:
TL is full of spoilers.
Actually it's more like walking into McDonalds and pressing charges against someone who shot you in the knee. It's illegal to do that, just like it is against the rules to post spoilers here.
Spoiler alert:
Read the fucking rules.
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I think the mods and admins need to decide on a firm spoiler stance. That way news threads can be news threads and not disputes over spoilers.
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To all the people who are complaining abot spoilers. DONT FUCKING COME TO TL IF YOU DONT WANT TO GET SPOILED. its like going to espn after the superbowl, its obviously going to be on there.
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On December 18 2011 09:06 daxile wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 09:04 mtn wrote:On December 18 2011 09:02 daxile wrote:
come on man and I was just getting ready to watch the entire series.. ffs Then why the hell do you read news on STARCAFT website. Why are people always surprised about finding spoilers on biggest website of SC. This always bugs me. It doesn't matter, I didn't WANT to read starcraft news, TL just so happens to be my homepage and when my eyes look to the side and under SC2 General I see something like this title, it becomes fairly obvious who won the blizz cup..
I don't see how it becomes obv. considering that both players will win prize money...
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lol @ the spoiler QQ. Kids should know not to go on damn starcraft websites if they don't want spoilers.
Unbelievable how dumb some people can be.
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by the way, is the title really that much of a spoiler? I mean MMA was really close to the 100m anyways, the second place would've almost been sufficient (only lacking 4m or so).
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On December 18 2011 09:01 pm_squad wrote:
Way to fucking spoil the game for everyone, just by the stupid title. UGH.
Lmfao, that's like getting mad at ESPN for posting scores on their home page.
If you don't want spoilers, stay away from TL until you watch the games.
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On December 18 2011 09:33 OldManZerg wrote:We can certainly debate the wisdom of people wandering onto TL when they don't want an epic match spoiled. But we all agreed to abide by certain rules when registering for accounts on Team Liquid. And posting blatant spoilers like this breaks them. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=17883#cmd02See #2.
What's the spoiler?
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This is the exact reason I sucked it up and stayed up all night watching the finals. I already had the round of 4 spoiled for me :/
To some people, like myself, TL is more than just about SC news, I come here for community everything - for general chat, sports & games, and blogs. Just because ESPN posts results right away out in the open, doesn't mean we have to (without spoiler tags). Are some of you seriously trying to justify not showing a little courtesy?
Some people can't even watch streams live due to poor internet or Gom player issues (like myself for quite a while). They shouldn't have to have their results ruined because they are obligated to watch vods.
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god this spoiler shit is so annoying if you dont want to be spoiled dont come here until you watch the games, every1 does that when they REALLY dont want to be spoiled.
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The title doesn't really spoil anything you know. Unless you knew MMA's prize winnings prior to the match, in which I doubt many people would've known. It does heavily imply that MMA won, but you can't confirm it till you click the thread, which is stupid if you're looking to avoid spoilers.
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yeah this is pretty dumb founded and obvious....spoilers..
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lol @ ppl complaining about spoilers
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uhmm, MMA would get into the 100k even if he has lost, so no it wasn't a spoiler.
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I guess a lot of people in this thread have never been to TL before. TL has a policy on no spoilers on the homepage for 2 days after an event, which includes no spoilers in topics of threads. They view themselves as a portal to access VODs and LR threads for info. This is why they have a spoiler free policy.
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hmmm spoiler tag would be nice ^_^ even though i was spoilered a bit ago
edit: On December 18 2011 09:37 pdd wrote:
The title doesn't really spoil anything you know. Unless you knew MMA's prize winnings prior to the match, in which I doubt many people would've known. It does heavily imply that MMA won, but you can't confirm it till you click the thread, which is stupid if you're looking to avoid spoilers.
anybody with a freakin brain can figure out mma won blizzcup yesterday
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On December 18 2011 09:09 Kieofire wrote:
How does MC have more money than MVP? That is weird seeing as how MVP has won more championships.
MC won the open season 2 which had a bigger prize pool than the GSL now
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I force myself to stay away from Twitter and TL until after I've seen a series if I don't want it spoiled T_T It's not that hard. Any website you'd go to for sports news would have spoilers up the second the game is over, don't whinge about it here.
Anyways, way to go MMA. Definitely deserves the $$$.
Hope MC can take over Nestea next year! Gogo Protoss xD
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I find it really amusing people get so bitter over spoilers. Unless you live under a rock, you knew the results to that damn series.
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On December 18 2011 09:05 Niick wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 09:01 pm_squad wrote:
Way to fucking spoil the game for everyone, just by the stupid title. UGH. BIGGEST STARCRAFT TWO GAME OF THE MONTH.
oh no!
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This thread has been awfully derailed by people complaining about quasi-spoilers.
On topic, I think Nestea has made a ridiculous amount of money. I wonder if anyone will be able to catch him with the smaller prize pools and better competition these days. I kinda doubt it O.o
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On December 18 2011 09:11 Kieofire wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 09:10 musai wrote:On December 18 2011 09:09 Kieofire wrote:
How does MC have more money than MVP? That is weird seeing as how MVP has won more championships. More foreign tournies. But this is the GSL prize money, not all tournaments.
GSL open 1, 2 ,3 all had 100 mil won prize, MC and nestea won one of those, which accounts for the large gap in prize money.
all GSL now have max 50 mil won prize
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On December 18 2011 09:39 Mainland wrote:
I guess a lot of people in this thread have never been to TL before. TL has a policy on no spoilers on the homepage for 2 days after an event, which includes no spoilers in topics of threads. They view themselves as a portal to access VODs and LR threads for info. This is why they have a spoiler free policy.
This is why they should not have a spoiler policy, because when there are spoilers the thread gets derailed to hell.
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Lol at people complaining about spoilers.
If I miss a series I really want to see, I force myself to avoid TeamLiquid until I've watched it. Maybe you guys should do the same.
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this spoiler whine is so annoying...sheesh.
Anyways the gsl pays out quite well if you are a top player.
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On December 18 2011 09:43 Deathmanbob wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 09:11 Kieofire wrote:On December 18 2011 09:10 musai wrote:On December 18 2011 09:09 Kieofire wrote:
How does MC have more money than MVP? That is weird seeing as how MVP has won more championships. More foreign tournies. But this is the GSL prize money, not all tournaments. GSL open 1, 2 ,3 all had 100 mil won prize, MC and nestea won one of those, which accounts for the large gap in prize money. all GSL now have max 50 mil won prize
Yeap... and it's also the reason Fruitdealer is still up there.
It's kinda sad that GOM halfed the prize pool in an even more competitive and higher-level setting of SC2. It's also kinda sad that they're not upping the prize money next year even though they have less events.
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On December 18 2011 09:40 Mortal wrote:
I find it really amusing people get so bitter over spoilers. Unless you live under a rock, you knew the results to that damn series.
You just contradicted yourself. You ask why people are bitter about spoilers, then right after that you go on to say how there's spoilers everywhere.
Although I'm not quite sure how not knowing about the game would constitute "living under a rock." People in my every day life sure don't talk about the last GSL game.
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On December 18 2011 09:45 pdd wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 09:43 Deathmanbob wrote:On December 18 2011 09:11 Kieofire wrote:On December 18 2011 09:10 musai wrote:On December 18 2011 09:09 Kieofire wrote:
How does MC have more money than MVP? That is weird seeing as how MVP has won more championships. More foreign tournies. But this is the GSL prize money, not all tournaments. GSL open 1, 2 ,3 all had 100 mil won prize, MC and nestea won one of those, which accounts for the large gap in prize money. all GSL now have max 50 mil won prize Yeap... and it's also the reason Fruitdealer is still up there. It's kinda sad that GOM halfed the prize pool in an even more competitive and higher-level setting of SC2. It's also kinda sad that they're not upping the prize money next year even though they have less events.
the reason the open season was 100k because there was only 3 for that year also starcraft 2 was just released they wanted to create sort of a hype around it with the large prize.
Even if they aren`t upping the prize money they far and away have tons more prize money than any other sc2 league out there.
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Yes.. I accidentally hit a spoiler for the MMA vs DRG game on TL and reddit (I was tired and didn't think before I opened either site), but I just sighed at my tired fail and watched the games anyway.
I didn't post on either place to vent my rage at a spoiler title.
Major congratulations to MMA, and not forgetting a major congratulations to DRG either. Both of them played spectacularly.
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On December 18 2011 09:44 Kieofire wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 09:39 Mainland wrote:
I guess a lot of people in this thread have never been to TL before. TL has a policy on no spoilers on the homepage for 2 days after an event, which includes no spoilers in topics of threads. They view themselves as a portal to access VODs and LR threads for info. This is why they have a spoiler free policy. This is why they should not have a spoiler policy, because when there are spoilers the thread gets derailed to hell.
Or maybe people should just read the damn rules before they post on a forum.
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Exactly what was spoiled? He didn't say who won in the title...he just says that someone broke 100k in GSL earnings. People need to stop being overly sensitive about spoilers when there was no spoiler to be had. You had an inference.....it just happened to be correct.
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Allot of people that doesn't know the TL Ten Commandments I see:
THOU SHALL OBSERVE FORUM ETIQUETTE that can be found at: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=17883 clearly states that:
[*] Don't be an attention whore and give away the results of games, sporting events, movie endings, etc. in the title of the thread/post. Also, if you're going to reveal stuff in the body of your post, then be decent enough to use the [spoiler]spoiler code.[/spoiler]
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Congrats to MMA.
To everyone complaining about spoilers: don't browse the internet if you don't want to be spoiled. seriously, just don't, go directly to the vods and starting watching. The rest of us want to see ESPORTS be glorified across the internet.
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wtf MVP made 70k in 2 days at Blizzcon and GSL final and he's still behind MC now???
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This is just ridiculous. Citing a rule on TL in defense of being so needlessly anal that they themselves are attention whoring. My god. It says news right there in the header.
-_- depressing internet whine about everything.
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Spoiler Fear is killing E-Sports.
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They're only accounting GSL tournaments
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On December 18 2011 09:53 tuho12345 wrote:
wtf MVP made 70k in 2 days at Blizzcon and GSL final and he's still behind MC now???
Blizzcon doesn't count toward the GSL.
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Stop being so fucking afraid of spoilers, if you are on a starcraft-site. You should be ready to see some results of games
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Why would people even browse TL or Reddit when they don't want any sort of spoilers ?
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On December 18 2011 09:06 daxile wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 09:04 mtn wrote:On December 18 2011 09:02 daxile wrote:
come on man and I was just getting ready to watch the entire series.. ffs Then why the hell do you read news on STARCAFT website. Why are people always surprised about finding spoilers on biggest website of SC. This always bugs me. It doesn't matter, I didn't WANT to read starcraft news, TL just so happens to be my homepage and when my eyes look to the side and under SC2 General I see something like this title, it becomes fairly obvious who won the blizz cup..
Make espn.com your homepage and complain when you see the superbowl results?
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does anyone check a football website before watching an important football game?
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On December 18 2011 09:58 OutlaW- wrote:
does anyone check a football website before watching an important football game?
That's different because nobody watches NFL VODs.
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On December 18 2011 09:06 daxile wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 09:04 mtn wrote:On December 18 2011 09:02 daxile wrote:
come on man and I was just getting ready to watch the entire series.. ffs Then why the hell do you read news on STARCAFT website. Why are people always surprised about finding spoilers on biggest website of SC. This always bugs me. It doesn't matter, I didn't WANT to read starcraft news, TL just so happens to be my homepage and when my eyes look to the side and under SC2 General I see something like this title, it becomes fairly obvious who won the blizz cup..
Sorry, but that's just stupid on your half.
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Spoilers are seriously overrated. Come on, grow up people.
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On December 18 2011 09:14 fuzzy_panda wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 09:11 cvt wrote:
guys I turned on espn and they spoiled every nfl game result from last week. I was so mad. Who do they think they are? i know right? people have got to stop whining about spoilers when they come to this site a day after a huge tournament finals. It wasn't even featured or spotlighted, it's just down in the sidebar! if you don't want your game to be spoiled, avoid ANY PLACE where starcraft 2 is discussed until you've watched the games. i thought that was common sense?
I agree, I was also about to add the Chicago Bulls beat the Pacers last night, but the ESPN comment was better.
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dont come to a starcraft site if you dont want starcraft news derp
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I laugh at all the people whining about spoilers
Getting ready to watch GSL VOD?, well, resist the urge to come on TL.
They'll learn their lessons someday. If not, well, tough luck, enjoy getting spoiled. again 
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Should this just be about if you spoiled or not?
I'm kindda shocked they're actually making so much money.
They have a team sallery on the side right? The non-winning players's got to make a living aswell
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really interesting writeup, i'm curious how MC got so high up there...
oh, and MKP should be terran, not protoss.
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I wonder if nestea will break 100k next year...hmm..
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On December 18 2011 10:06 taoito wrote:I laugh at all the people whining about spoilers Getting ready to watch GSL VOD?, well, resist the urge to come on TL. They'll learn their lessons someday. If not, well, tough luck, enjoy getting spoiled. again
Perfectly said
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On December 18 2011 10:07 Mentalizor wrote:
Should this just be about if you spoiled or not?
I'm kindda shocked they're actually making so much money.
They have a team sallery on the side right? The non-winning players's got to make a living aswell
A lot of Korean's don't really get salary. Perhaps the top players in richer teams (ST, TSL, SlayerS, IM and oGs) do, but it's been said that most Korean pro's don't get a salary.
On December 18 2011 10:08 ObliviousNA wrote:
really interesting writeup, i'm curious how MC got so high up there...
oh, and MKP should be terran, not protoss.
Noticed how Fruitdealer is pretty high and Nestea is WAYY ahead of everyone else? Yeah, that's the Open Season's 100M won winner's prize for you.
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On December 18 2011 10:07 Mentalizor wrote:
Should this just be about if you spoiled or not?
I'm kindda shocked they're actually making so much money.
They have a team sallery on the side right? The non-winning players's got to make a living aswell
ya team salaries plus what they have made outside the GSL
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Why would you even come to this website if you were afraid of spoilers... =/
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On December 18 2011 10:00 Condor Hero wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 09:58 OutlaW- wrote:
does anyone check a football website before watching an important football game? That's different because nobody watches NFL VODs.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=274690¤tpage=47#932 although I suppose it was DVR instead of "internet VODs"...
on topic. I think it's awesome how much some of these players have been able to earn. I'm curious how much went to teams, how much the players earned from their teams and possible individual sponsorships. Also, I still think it would be better if the prize money was more spread out (there's a serious drop off after MKP @#7 - why is he listed as  ?).
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Nice list, good to see how much they all got just from GSL (I think the info at other sites is their combined prize winning). This spoiler whining is pathetic, if you don't want to be spoiled exercise a modicum of fucking self control and don't got to the biggest esports news site before watching it.
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Yea cmon dont spoil for others >.<
Anyways, sort of sucks the 1st and 2nd place prize is so different, I wonder if they wanted to do that to give them more pressure to get 1st place? I would have expected something more like 35,000 and 15,000, perhaps they didn't want to lower the first place prize because 40k is already a lot less than the usual 50k ?
Poor DRG he almost won haha. But I'm an MMA fan and even though DRG lost at least he didn't lose 4-0. He showed great games.
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I can't believe people think their enjoyment of a series is going to be ruined if they know the score. I can still enjoy a football match if I know who already won, or whatever
People need to man the fuck up or get the fuck off a major SC2 forum that is known for discussing the most recent SC2 news
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lol you expect to go on an sc2 website without having spoilers? christ
people do watch vods of sports , btw. they record it if they can't watch it. they put in THEIR OWN effort to avoid the spoiler, not to have people cover it up for them.
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On December 18 2011 10:20 shawster wrote:
lol you expect to go on an sc2 website without having spoilers? christ
people do watch vods of sports , btw. they record it if they can't watch it. they put in THEIR OWN effort to avoid the spoiler, not to have people cover it up for them.
considering its tl.net's rules that you arent allowed to spoil recent results, yes, i expect the website not to have spoilers. i apologize for expecting people to follow the rules.
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I seriously don't understand why people read forums when they don't want to be spoiled. People who watch sports like soccer, football, etc don't get to have newpapers and television censored for them.
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On December 18 2011 10:23 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 10:20 shawster wrote:
lol you expect to go on an sc2 website without having spoilers? christ
people do watch vods of sports , btw. they record it if they can't watch it. they put in THEIR OWN effort to avoid the spoiler, not to have people cover it up for them. considering its tl.net's rules that you arent allowed to spoiler recent results, yes, i expect the website not to have spoilers. i apologize for expecting people to follow the rules.
Well this thread is not closed yet so it appears the mods do not share your sentiments.
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Was the topic title changed? If no, I'm wondering how
>MMA joins the $100,000 GSL Tour Prize Income Club
can be seen as "MMA has won the Blizzard Cup"
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On December 18 2011 10:23 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 10:20 shawster wrote:
lol you expect to go on an sc2 website without having spoilers? christ
people do watch vods of sports , btw. they record it if they can't watch it. they put in THEIR OWN effort to avoid the spoiler, not to have people cover it up for them. considering its tl.net's rules that you arent allowed to spoil recent results, yes, i expect the website not to have spoilers. i apologize for expecting people to follow the rules.
apparently this thread doesn't spoil anything unless you're naive enough to click on it one day after the final
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Yeah but look, I didnt watch the GSL Blizzcup finals either. But I decided to stay away from Teamliquid because it will flat out spoil it just looking at the TLDP rankings. I guess youre silly if you look at team liquid at all.
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On December 18 2011 10:26 wOrD yO wrote:
Yeah but look, I didnt watch the GSL Blizzcup finals either. But I decided to stay away from Teamliquid because it will flat out spoil it just looking at the TLDP rankings. I guess youre silly if you look at team liquid at all.
this man speaks the truth
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On December 18 2011 10:25 DoNotDisturb wrote:
Was the topic title changed? If no, I'm wondering how
>MMA joins the $100,000 GSL Tour Prize Income Club
can be seen as "MMA has won the Blizzard Cup"
or it can been seen as him having 90,000 prize already and the 20,000 prize pushed him over the requirement to be part of the club, depending on how closely you memorize the current earnings already.
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On December 18 2011 10:18 bbm wrote:
I can't believe people think their enjoyment of a series is going to be ruined if they know the score. I can still enjoy a football match if I know who already won, or whatever
People need to man the fuck up or get the fuck off a major SC2 forum that is known for discussing the most recent SC2 news
Even though I agree with you in that people should not visit TL if they don't want to be spoiled, I completely disagree with your first point.
Knowing the results to last nights games would almost completely ruin the whole thing.
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On December 18 2011 10:24 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 10:23 dAPhREAk wrote:On December 18 2011 10:20 shawster wrote:
lol you expect to go on an sc2 website without having spoilers? christ
people do watch vods of sports , btw. they record it if they can't watch it. they put in THEIR OWN effort to avoid the spoiler, not to have people cover it up for them. considering its tl.net's rules that you arent allowed to spoiler recent results, yes, i expect the website not to have spoilers. i apologize for expecting people to follow the rules. Well this thread is not closed yet so it appears the mods do not share your sentiments.
i didnt say this thread spoiled the results. just commenting on the people's thoughts that spoilers in general are appropriate.
On December 18 2011 10:26 wOrD yO wrote:
Yeah but look, I didnt watch the GSL Blizzcup finals either. But I decided to stay away from Teamliquid because it will flat out spoil it just looking at the TLDP rankings. I guess youre silly if you look at team liquid at all.
MMA was #1 before the blizzup finals if i remember correctly.
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Guys it is 'would have'. Not 'would of'. Ever.
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Lol @ all the spoiler crybabies. If you don't want to be spoiled, either watch the game soon after it was held (if not live) or simply put, don't visit SC2 NEWS Websites. How pathetic.
As for the OP. Cool, so now the top sc2 players earn approx 1/4th of the top sc1 players's base salary (flash & co salaries were roughly 400k USD a year no?)
Still a long way to go but getting closer!
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You've got the BW MarineKing, someone please fix it.
It scared me T_T
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On December 18 2011 10:32 Suvorov wrote:
Lol @ all the spoiler crybabies. If you don't want to be spoiled, either watch the game soon after it was held (if not live) or simply put, don't visit SC2 NEWS Websites. How pathetic.
As for the OP. Cool, so now the top sc2 players earn approx 1/4th of the top sc1 players's base salary (flash & co salaries were roughly 400k USD a year no?)
Still a long way to go but getting closer!
Well said dawg! Some people... -___-'
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On December 18 2011 10:30 Sarang wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 10:18 bbm wrote:
I can't believe people think their enjoyment of a series is going to be ruined if they know the score. I can still enjoy a football match if I know who already won, or whatever
People need to man the fuck up or get the fuck off a major SC2 forum that is known for discussing the most recent SC2 news Even though I agree with you in that people should not visit TL if they don't want to be spoiled, I completely disagree with your first point. Knowing the results to last nights games would almost completely ruin the whole thing.
well it's certainly a discussion point, i mean, this thread all you know is that MMA won, you don't know whether it was a 4-0 sweep or a really close 4-3 knife-edge series. But knowing the outcome doesn't spoil the adventure. I knew that anakin was going to turn to the dark side at the end of episode 3, but I still thought it was an acceptable movie....
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People complaining about spoilers being against the commandments, so is having 8 pages of off-topic crying bullshit. Quit it. This thread is about MMA and his success.
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MMA has grown up so much. I remember his early days in GSTL.
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Thanks. you spoiled the results.
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The only non-terrans are Nestea, FD, and MC. While Nestea and MC are pretty consistent FD has completely disappeared.
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If you don't want to be spoiled,get out of the internet.Geesh.
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It is nice to see this information, but www.sc2earnings.com provides results for all tournaments not just GSL which is more useful.
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On December 18 2011 10:32 Suvorov wrote:
Lol @ all the spoiler crybabies. If you don't want to be spoiled, either watch the game soon after it was held (if not live) or simply put, don't visit SC2 NEWS Websites. How pathetic.
As for the OP. Cool, so now the top sc2 players earn approx 1/4th of the top sc1 players's base salary (flash & co salaries were roughly 400k USD a year no?)
Still a long way to go but getting closer!
Flash earns $400k USD on a good year. That's including salary, prize money, and endorsements. As for "& co", if you mean Jaedong, Bisu and Stork then maybe, other Class A players, doubtful.
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When someone PVR's a major sports game, they don't listen to the radio, watch tv, or go to most websites. Why is SC2 treated differently? Snape kills Dumbledore. And Dumbledore told him to do it.
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I think people complain just for the sake of complaining.
If you are worried about the results of a major tournament being spoiled then why the hell are you browsing the forums of a website that covers competitive and professional Starcraft?
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I can see Ryung becoming the Sith of the SlayerS team and MMA being a Jedi if this continues. MMA eventually starts his own team, Ryung his...and these two teams will battle it out for thousands of years until....
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Whenever I want to catch up on games. I always make sure not to log on TL, Twitter, FB, or Reddit before I watch the VoDs. I don't understand how people can be THAT upset if they don't take those precautionary measures.
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People who complain about spoilers don't go far enough out of their way to avoid spoilers. Unless it's the rare exception like Harry Potter, where people were walking out of stores the night the last book released shouting spoilers at the crowds, you need to take it upon yourself not to get spoiled. For the past 10 years I've had only 1 game spoiled for me BECAUSE I WENT TO THAT GAME'S OFFICIAL FORUMS, have only had SC games spoiled when I go to reddit/twitter/TL/ESFI. I've never had a TV show spoiled for me and I usually only start watching shows once they're either over or have 4+ seasons finished. On rare occasions I have a friend who is a dick yell a spoiler for a movie at me.
Point is, if you don't want to be spoiled, the burden is on YOU to avoid it, not the community. Didn't catch it live? Avoid SC news/community sites until you've seen it.
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On December 18 2011 09:09 Kieofire wrote:
How does MC have more money than MVP? That is weird seeing as how MVP has won more championships.
Same reason NesTea has more won then MVP.
Open seasons had like double price pool.
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SC2 is officially big!
Money in ESPORTS now guys
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Christ, people do not realize that whether MMA won or lost, he would still have over 100,000 dollars, so this doesn't spoil anything.
Gratz to him, I remember when SlayerS was a bunch of code B nobodies, and everyone knew that boxer could find hidden talent. Now they're the scariest team around. I love how fruitdealer and rainbow are still up there, considering that they havent won anything in forever.
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On December 18 2011 11:46 13_Doomblaze_37 wrote:
Christ, people do not realize that whether MMA won or lost, he would still have over 100,000 dollars, so this doesn't spoil anything.
Gratz to him, I remember when SlayerS was a bunch of code B nobodies, and everyone knew that boxer could find hidden talent. Now they're the scariest team around. I love how fruitdealer and rainbow are still up there, considering that they havent won anything in forever.
Actually he wouldn't.
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On December 18 2011 10:36 bbm wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 10:30 Sarang wrote:On December 18 2011 10:18 bbm wrote:
I can't believe people think their enjoyment of a series is going to be ruined if they know the score. I can still enjoy a football match if I know who already won, or whatever
People need to man the fuck up or get the fuck off a major SC2 forum that is known for discussing the most recent SC2 news Even though I agree with you in that people should not visit TL if they don't want to be spoiled, I completely disagree with your first point. Knowing the results to last nights games would almost completely ruin the whole thing. well it's certainly a discussion point, i mean, this thread all you know is that MMA won, you don't know whether it was a 4-0 sweep or a really close 4-3 knife-edge series. But knowing the outcome doesn't spoil the adventure. I knew that anakin was going to turn to the dark side at the end of episode 3, but I still thought it was an acceptable movie....
That's fair enough. You're able to watch a series like last night's and enjoy it even though you know the results - I'd watch it and be constantly thinking "FUCK this would be so much better if I didn't know DRG wins the next 3 games and lost an epic game 7."
I think the main thing for me is that Game 7 was so insane and back-and-forth, if I knew before the game started that MMA won, it'd kill it for me.
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This is fucking stupid, people need to avoid reddit, teamliquid, and whatever other sites if they don't want to be fucking spoiled. It's honestly really irritating reading a nice article, then having 10 people complain because they're idiotic enough to go on the biggest SC site and expect not to get spoiled. Shit happens, deal with it.
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10th place only raked in 37k...that should give a pretty good picture of what progamers worse than that make
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i dont get why people are whining about spoilers...
If you don't want any spoilers, you shouldnt check TL SC2 General Discussion anyway.....
zzzzzzzz
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MMA is pretty amazing, I hope the best for him to reach the #1 spot!
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What's with the complaining about spoilers on the first page?
People keep going "I WANT SC2 TO BE CONSIDERED A SPORT", but you don't want any official articles on the subject for like, X amount of days after release? After football/hockey games they are discussing the results EVERYWHERE. After the NBA playoffs, newpapers are talking about it and regular news channels are on it minutes after. The fact is, you just need to suck it up. What makes competitive sports amazing is the casting and information and records broken behind them. The sooner we can get beyond this silly concept of "spoiling" results even after they have been broadcasted, the sooner we can be legitimized more. If you don't want to "spoil" yourself, then don't go on the freaking websites dedicated to SC2 news.
Very well damn done by MMA, nonetheless. A great accomplishment.
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That makes the GSL look retarded top heavy. $35k for first and $8k for second? Keeping an attractive first place prize isn't really needed anymore, look after the players Mr Chae =(
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On December 18 2011 09:06 daxile wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 09:04 mtn wrote:On December 18 2011 09:02 daxile wrote:
come on man and I was just getting ready to watch the entire series.. ffs Then why the hell do you read news on STARCAFT website. Why are people always surprised about finding spoilers on biggest website of SC. This always bugs me. It doesn't matter, I didn't WANT to read starcraft news, TL just so happens to be my homepage and when my eyes look to the side and under SC2 General I see something like this title, it becomes fairly obvious who won the blizz cup..
You can't possibly be serious.
Let me get this straight: You're pissed because TL.net HAPPENS to be your homepage (which happens to be easily fixed), and thus, upon opening your browser, you HAPPEN to look at the SC2 sidebar (which happens to be customizable), and thus you HAPPEN to be spoiled about an event which you HAPPEN to know has ended recently?
Well, I sincerely happen to hope, that you won't happen to take offense. if I happen to think, that you happen to be mentally challenged.
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On December 18 2011 11:48 Roe wrote:
10th place only raked in 37k...that should give a pretty good picture of what progamers worse than that make
This is only for GSL. MVP and MC have made way more than is listed there.
http://www.sc2earnings.com/
Still, anything under about 20th isn't a great amount of money for a year. In fact the earnings here are basically for a year and a half yeah? =/
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Spoiler complaints are so dumb. Watch the games, then head to TL if you're actually concerned about being spoiled. Can you imagine? "What the hell! The Mavericks beat the Heat last night? YOU ARE AN ASS, I DIDN'T GET TO WATCH THE GAME YET!" Honestly if someone said that to me, as an NBA fan, I would just look at him as if he was stupid. Anyways, congrats MMA! One of my favorite players.
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On December 18 2011 10:00 Condor Hero wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 09:58 OutlaW- wrote:
does anyone check a football website before watching an important football game? That's different because nobody watches NFL VODs.
Yes they do, its called Ti-vo......
And people who watch them dont even answer their phones if they are that serious about not seing the results.
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On December 18 2011 09:35 Cham wrote:
To some people, like myself, TL is more than just about SC news, I come here for community everything - for general chat, sports & games, and blogs. Just because ESPN posts results right away out in the open, doesn't mean we have to (without spoiler tags). Are some of you seriously trying to justify not showing a little courtesy?
Laugh Out Loud. What do you think the community of a Starcraft 2 website is going to be discussing after a huge year-end tournament just finished? Why are you going to the sports & games forum? Are you going to check results? Are you going to engage in conversation on past games? You enjoy the blog section, that's great, so don't minimize the forum sidebar along with all the sidebars you should already have minimized when trying to avoid spoilers.
FYI: People keep citing ESPN with the intention of affording clarity to others that "other sports do it". The point that we should be making regarding ESPN is that there are so many MORE people that WANT the results upfront, that they can dedicate entire CHANNELS to bringing the results to the masses.
On your last point about our justifications, you've got the wrong impression on what courtesy actually is. It's discourteous to think that 5,000 cars should stop and park on the shoulder of a highway so that YOU can get home quickly. It's discourteous to think that the minority should dictate what the majority does because it benefits the minority.
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On December 18 2011 12:25 soulostar wrote:
Spoiler complaints are so dumb. Watch the games, then head to TL if you're actually concerned about being spoiled. Can you imagine? "What the hell! The Mavericks beat the Heat last night? YOU ARE AN ASS, I DIDN'T GET TO WATCH THE GAME YET!" Honestly if someone said that to me, as an NBA fan, I would just look at him as if he was stupid. Anyways, congrats MMA! One of my favorite players.
On December 18 2011 12:41 Desirous wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 09:35 Cham wrote:
To some people, like myself, TL is more than just about SC news, I come here for community everything - for general chat, sports & games, and blogs. Just because ESPN posts results right away out in the open, doesn't mean we have to (without spoiler tags). Are some of you seriously trying to justify not showing a little courtesy? Laugh Out Loud. What do you think the community of a Starcraft 2 website is going to be discussing after a huge year-end tournament just finished? Why are you going to the sports & games forum? Are you going to check results? Are you going to engage in conversation on past games? You enjoy the blog section, that's great, so don't minimize the forum sidebar along with all the sidebars you should already have minimized when trying to avoid spoilers. FYI: People keep citing ESPN with the intention of affording clarity to others that "other sports do it". The point that we should be making regarding ESPN is that there are so many MORE people that WANT the results upfront, that they can dedicate entire CHANNEL S to bringing the results to the masses. On your last point about our justifications, you've got the wrong impression on what courtesy actually is. It's discourteous to think that 5,000 cars should stop and park on the shoulder of a highway so that YOU can get home quickly. It's discourteous to think that the minority should dictate what the majority does because it benefits the minority.
As all the TL news are spoiler free, TL have decided to be spoiler-free and therefor the forum should be it aswell.
If TL would post all the winners in the news section then I feel like the page itself is saying: We are not going to post matchresult in the news section: Notice how all the news are titled: Interview with Blizzard cup finalist. They dont say:
Interview with DRG and MMA, the blizzcon finalists.
That's why I feel that the forum should be as spoiler free as possible. I'm hiding the Fan clubs cause I know that people will write in them after an event, if I see that the MMA fanclub is active then I know that he most likely won.
TL DR; I feel like the forum should be as spoiler free as possible because TL themself are not giving away spoilers in the news so they want people to use the webpage even though an event is going on / is completed.
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The races are mixed up on the list. Actually everybody plays terran except for MC, Fruitdealer and Nestea.
And I can't believe Fruitdealer and Rainbow are on that list. Those beta tournaments must have paid lots of money.
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Your problem Joe, is that you don't understand why it's like the way it is right now. Originally, there was no rule against it. The foreign BW scene was small, and chalk-full of eccentric members who complained enough, and eventually got a few pro-spoiler alert people into admin positions @ tl.net, and that's why it became the way it is now. The problem though, is that they're using that model and fitting it to the new SC2 focused tl.net that's infused with a lot more people who DON'T want spoiler tags. It's like forcing kids in today's society to be in a school with a 1940's curriculum/attitude/model.
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To the people saying spoilers are fine:
1. Paid VODs are a significant part of SC2, SC2 is also a global game so you cannot expect even the majority of viewers to watch it live. These two factors make any comparisons to NFL etc invalid.
2. We can have both. People aren't asking you not to post news, they are asking you to put a spoiler tag and avoid spoiling in the title. If you did this we'd have news and people could remain unspoiled, everyone wins.
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On December 18 2011 09:34 forsooth wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 09:01 pm_squad wrote:
Way to fucking spoil the game for everyone, just by the stupid title. UGH. Lmfao, that's like getting mad at ESPN for posting scores on their home page. If you don't want spoilers, stay away from TL until you watch the games.
During the Olympics, ESPN analysts, along with those from other sports networks, will make a statement saying "If you don't want the results spoiled, turn the channel for a few minutes RIGHT NOW" before showing scores, they dont just go ahead and start posting results without warning. So yeah, ESPN avoids spoilers unless its for the four major sports (football, basketball, hockey, baseball) because most people wont be in a weird timezone when the game is on, and most people wont bother recording an NFL or NHL game so they can watch it later.
Its cool that MMA broke the 100k club in what may have been the best SC2 series played to date.
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you retard thanks for spoiling
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Lol it's funny how this became a mass thread of the spoiler problem.. Not to be shooing people away from TL but just don't set it as your home page.
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On December 18 2011 12:55 Desirous wrote:
Your problem Joe, is that you don't understand why it's like the way it is right now. Originally, there was no rule against it. The foreign BW scene was small, and chalk-full of eccentric members who complained enough, and eventually got a few pro-spoiler alert people into admin positions @ tl.net, and that's why it became the way it is now. The problem though, is that they're using that model and fitting it to the new SC2 focused tl.net that's infused with a lot more people who DON'T want spoiler tags. It's like forcing kids in today's society to be in a school with a 1940's curriculum/attitude/model.
Well what I feel is:
Either you make TL Spoiler free by having it spoiler free or you post all the results in all the news and forum threads. The problem then is that TL would look like reddit. "MMA WON Blizzcon invitational", EPIC FINAL that MMA WON, DISCUSS IT HERE
Another thing you could do is that when you make a thread you select if it contains spoilers. If you select that it contains spoilers then people who have selected not to see "spoiler threads" can't see your thread. I have no idea if it's hard or not to implement this feature but I think it would solve it. A lot of people, including myself browse through TL at work / school or w/e, they check TL at times when they can't view the VoDs.
And yes I understand what you are saying and I agree but I feel that it can't be midway. Sometimes there's spoilers but most likely you will be safe so that's what I feel. Normally you dont get spoiled at TL and that is why it sucks when you do.
I personally have a GOMTV subscribtion and all I do is watch the Vods. Often the same day and it sucks when you know the result beforehand
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I find this spoiler fear ridiculous. TL is a news + community page at the same time.
Do you go to a soccer news site expecting them to not show the latest results? So they should cover up their whole page or not update at all so people who are looking for the latest news have to look really hard to find it?
Is it so difficult to just avoid TL and go straight to gomtv to just watch the freaking set? I find this whole uproar about this a joke.
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I'm sure MVP has won more than MC/Nestea. If i'm not wrong, this earnings only are earnings based off GSL tournaments?
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If you havn't watched the latest games and don't want to be 'spoiled' it's incumbent upon you to avoid sites that discuss them. People on here have a right to discuss the latest games without having people who think the world revolves around them shushing them up because they're lazy and havn't watched the games. I don't think I've ever seen another sports website in the world that tells people they need to spoiler discussion of the latest games to protect a minority who want to browse the site and havn't got around to it yet, it's ridiculous.
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On December 18 2011 13:05 poorcloud wrote:
I find this spoiler fear ridiculous. TL is a news + community page at the same time.
Do you go to a soccer news site expecting them to not show the latest results? So they should cover up their whole page or not update at all so people who are looking for the latest news have to look really hard to find it?
Is it so difficult to just avoid TL and go straight to gomtv to just watch the freaking set? I find this whole uproar about this a joke.
Check the news, do they announce spoilers in the headline? No, they dont. TL have decided to keep it spoiler free. The easiest thing is just to avoid all spoilers in the headlines. Sometimes you see spoilers written by people but if I for instance browse through the Sc2 General forum I dont want to get spoiled, if I read through threads that can contain info about a recent tournament win then I'm atleast aware of the possiblity of spoilers
Again, the best way would just to have a feature that allows people to select if the thread that they are making contains spoilers.
Then people have an option to hide all the threads that people have selected as "SPOILER CONTAINING"
Then the people who like to browse through the forum without spoilers can select that they dont want show threads that contains spoilers. Then when they have watched the final then they can unselect this feature and happily discuss the recent event winner or w/e
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GSL Tour Prize Income Ranking1. NesTea 223,800,000 Won ($193180) 2. MC 176,000,000 Won ($151920) 3. MVP 167,500,000 Won ($144583) 4. MMA 126,200,000 Won ($108933) 5. Polt 119,800,000 Won ($103409) 6. FruitDealer 112,000,000 Won ($96676.7200) 7. MarineKing 87,500,000 Won ($75528) 8. Jjakji 52,400,000 Won ($45230) 9. RainBOw 45,700,000 Won ($39447) 10. TOP 41,700,000 Won ($35994)
MarineKing isn't a Protoss 
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On December 18 2011 13:16 Clbull wrote:Show nested quote +GSL Tour Prize Income Ranking1. NesTea 223,800,000 Won ($193180) 2. MC 176,000,000 Won ($151920) 3. MVP 167,500,000 Won ($144583) 4. MMA 126,200,000 Won ($108933) 5. Polt 119,800,000 Won ($103409) 6. FruitDealer 112,000,000 Won ($96676.7200) 7. MarineKing 87,500,000 Won ($75528) 8. Jjakji 52,400,000 Won ($45230) 9. RainBOw 45,700,000 Won ($39447) 10. TOP 41,700,000 Won ($35994) MarineKing isn't a Protoss
It's the old BW TLPD that's showing MKP as toss as he played it in BW
On December 18 2011 13:05 poorcloud wrote:
I find this spoiler fear ridiculous. TL is a news + community page at the same time.
Do you go to a soccer news site expecting them to not show the latest results? So they should cover up their whole page or not update at all so people who are looking for the latest news have to look really hard to find it?
Is it so difficult to just avoid TL and go straight to gomtv to just watch the freaking set? I find this whole uproar about this a joke.
Some people might be at work / school, a place were they can't watch it but they have some down-time to just browse through the internet. Also TL themself are trying to avoid spoiling result, they are saying that we're not going to spoil results for you. Therefor you might expect the whole page to be like that. Most of the times you can check through TL without spoilers just that when you do get spoiled. it hurts so bad, especially when the final was this epic!
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On December 18 2011 09:13 RaiKageRyu wrote:lol, I knew when I saw this. Someone would be spoiled by the title. It's too easy to come to that conclusion. Btw, these are just GSL money rankings. For a more accurate worldwide money ranking, try this: http://www.sc2earnings.com
It's astonishing when one looks at that site and realizes there's only 8 players that have made a 'decent' living the past 2 years.
As for the rest of the SC2 players, without teams/sponsors, no idea how they'd get by. In particular this applies to Korean players, since everything is terribly more expensive in Korea than in the US (by in the US, I mean southern Californian metropolises, one of the most expensive regions in the country), ESPECIALLY in the big cities (eg. Seoul). If they didn't have 10+ guys living in a flat with major sponsorships backing them, they wouldn't be sitting too pretty, to say the least .
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On December 18 2011 13:11 JoeAWESOME wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 13:05 poorcloud wrote:
I find this spoiler fear ridiculous. TL is a news + community page at the same time.
Do you go to a soccer news site expecting them to not show the latest results? So they should cover up their whole page or not update at all so people who are looking for the latest news have to look really hard to find it?
Is it so difficult to just avoid TL and go straight to gomtv to just watch the freaking set? I find this whole uproar about this a joke. Check the news, do they announce spoilers in the headline? No, they dont. TL have decided to keep it spoiler free. The easiest thing is just to avoid all spoilers in the headlines. Sometimes you see spoilers written by people but if I for instance browse through the Sc2 General forum I dont want to get spoiled, if I read through threads that can contain info about a recent tournament win then I'm atleast aware of the possiblity of spoilers Again, the best way would just to have a feature that allows people to select if the thread that they are making contains spoilers. Then people have an option to hide all the threads that people have selected as "SPOILER CONTAINING" Then the people who like to browse through the forum without spoilers can select that they dont want show threads that contains spoilers. Then when they have watched the final then they can unselect this feature and happily discuss the recent event winner or w/e
Now i don't know what news site you refer to. I'm going to talk about football sites for example. Just go to soccernet,com, you see the latest results splashed all over the front page with big images. I sure as hell don't see all their headlines containing 0 spoilers.
This is ridiculous because everybody has their own catch-up rate to catch the vods. So what if this guy takes 3 days to watch the vods, do we continue to spoiler everything for him? Do we continue to make it seem like an entitlement to these people when honestly imo, it should be more of a privilege. Perhaps there should be a cut-off time, or like you said, the spoilers option. However, all these are really added administrative hassles which can be avoided if this community was not so anal about spoilers all the time.
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On December 18 2011 09:09 TrickyGilligan wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 09:01 pm_squad wrote:
Way to fucking spoil the game for everyone, just by the stupid title. UGH. Get off TL until you watch the games if you don't want to get spoiled. Also, unless you're keeping very close track of MMA's winnings, 2nd place was possibly enough for him to exceed $100k. How do you know for sure that you were spoiled? Oh, you clicked on the tread like an idiot. Good job.
THIS!
When I want to watch a GSL match and I don't want to be spoiled... I don't get on a Starcraft site lol. Of course this is what everyone will be talking about.
MMA is a great player. I can't wait to base some plays off of his incredible game style.
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On December 18 2011 13:20 poorcloud wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 13:11 JoeAWESOME wrote:On December 18 2011 13:05 poorcloud wrote:
I find this spoiler fear ridiculous. TL is a news + community page at the same time.
Do you go to a soccer news site expecting them to not show the latest results? So they should cover up their whole page or not update at all so people who are looking for the latest news have to look really hard to find it?
Is it so difficult to just avoid TL and go straight to gomtv to just watch the freaking set? I find this whole uproar about this a joke. Check the news, do they announce spoilers in the headline? No, they dont. TL have decided to keep it spoiler free. The easiest thing is just to avoid all spoilers in the headlines. Sometimes you see spoilers written by people but if I for instance browse through the Sc2 General forum I dont want to get spoiled, if I read through threads that can contain info about a recent tournament win then I'm atleast aware of the possiblity of spoilers Again, the best way would just to have a feature that allows people to select if the thread that they are making contains spoilers. Then people have an option to hide all the threads that people have selected as "SPOILER CONTAINING" Then the people who like to browse through the forum without spoilers can select that they dont want show threads that contains spoilers. Then when they have watched the final then they can unselect this feature and happily discuss the recent event winner or w/e Now i don't know what news site you refer to. I'm going to talk about football sites for example. Just go to soccernet,com, you see the latest results splashed all over the front page with big images. I sure as hell don't see all their headlines containing 0 spoilers. This is ridiculous because everybody has their own catch-up rate to catch the vods. So what if this guy takes 3 days to watch the vods, do we continue to spoiler everything for him? Do we continue to make it seem like an entitlement to these people when honestly imo, it should be more of a privilege. Perhaps there should be a cut-off time, or like you said, the spoilers option. However, all these are really added administrative hassles which can be avoided if this community was not so anal about spoilers all the time.
I'm talking about TL deciding not to have spoilers in their news headlines. Therefor the people behind TL have decided that we are not going to spoil the recent results for you. Also TL have been a spoiler free enviroment and my problem is that TL have decided to not have spoilers but sometimes, not all the time, you get spoiled. So it's midwayish.
You dont get most of the recent result spoiled but 1/10 times (just a random estimation) you do and I find that a bit odd, if TL would gladly have spoilers in their headlines and post news like : "MMA won blizzard cup 2011" then people know that you should not visit TL cause they are posting all the results in the headlines but now TL is hiding spoilers and most of the community members are too, but 1/10 times (just a random estimation) you get spoiled from threads like this one.
And to answer your question about time then as you may know, the TL webpage does not post the result in the headlines and most of the forum threads do the same. This thread could be named:
The $100,000 GSL Tour Prize Income Club and it would all be fine. If people clicked and read the thread they could have said in the start. This thread may or may not contain recent GSL spoilers.
And about the time issue, it would get solved if you do it like this cause then people visit certain forum threads knowing that it can contain spoilers
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I do admit this isn't very fair to people wanting to avoid spoilers, simply since TL hasn't announced anything official on the matter. We should see to rectifying this.
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On December 18 2011 13:27 Plexa wrote:
I do admit this isn't very fair to people wanting to avoid spoilers, simply since TL hasn't announced anything official on the matter. We should see to rectifying this.
Yes, it is very unclear as TL is not spoiling in the news so I feel that the norm is not to spoil but there is no clear rule regarding the issue so it would be awesome if you brought that up!
Also you can rename the headline to : The $100,000 GSL Tour Prize Income Club and it would solve most of the problem. It is a small change that matters so much for some people, including myself sometimes!
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A very nice chunk of income for him. I wonder if SlayerS pays him a salary to play for them.
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Its kind of sad how much money Fruitdealer made seeing how bad his performance is of late -_-. I don't know if it was that he just got lucky or that he just stop taking SC2 seriously.
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On December 18 2011 09:05 Niick wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 09:01 pm_squad wrote:
Way to fucking spoil the game for everyone, just by the stupid title. UGH. Way to fucking go on the biggest STARCRAFT TWO SITE in the english speaking world if you're not wanting spoilers for the BIGGEST STARCRAFT TWO GAME OF THE MONTH.
LMAO. :D
If you guys whine about spoilers, when you go on Team Liquid right after the GSL finals ... try watching this, and learn something: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0933496/
Fun post man I liked it! Guess Nestea can rename himself BordeauxChateuLafite with those prize winnings.
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On December 18 2011 13:27 Plexa wrote:
I do admit this isn't very fair to people wanting to avoid spoilers, simply since TL hasn't announced anything official on the matter. We should see to rectifying this.
Agreed!
Especially since in the "Spoiler fear killing esports thread" there is an overwhelming vote to have TL display major tournament results on the front page.
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There is actually a little drop down button next to each forum catagory that you can click to hide or show the threads
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This is just stupid. You did nothing but confirm even more that mma won.
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Lol, I love how the spoiler tag in the title makes it even worse.
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Lol it goes SPOILER then MMA.
Not very spoiler hidden
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Troll mod edit best mod edit.
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On December 18 2011 13:31 JoeAWESOME wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 13:27 Plexa wrote:
I do admit this isn't very fair to people wanting to avoid spoilers, simply since TL hasn't announced anything official on the matter. We should see to rectifying this. Yes, it is very unclear as TL is not spoiling in the news so I feel that the norm is not to spoil but there is no clear rule regarding the issue so it would be awesome if you brought that up! Also you can rename the headline to : The $100,000 GSL Tour Prize Income Club and it would solve most of the problem. It is a small change that matters so much for some people, including myself sometimes!
Lolz that title looks more like regular general sc2 thread than this title, you know. If this title makes 70% people got spoiled, that title will make like 100% people got spoiled.
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I'm not sure about this spoiler policy but isn't the "Liquid Team News" section itself is a massive spoiler? Such as "Sheth finally falls in..." etc.
We should either remove it completely or not at all, i for once want to remove this spoiler policy because hey, if you don't want to be spoiled don't read the news at all.
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I'm sick of people complaining about results spoilers. It's gotten to the point where it's simply ridiculous.
Anyway, I'm surprised Polt and Fruit Dealer have made that much money! Poor MKP.... I guess 2nd place just doesn't bring home the dough.
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On December 18 2011 13:18 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 09:13 RaiKageRyu wrote:lol, I knew when I saw this. Someone would be spoiled by the title. It's too easy to come to that conclusion. Btw, these are just GSL money rankings. For a more accurate worldwide money ranking, try this: http://www.sc2earnings.com It's astonishing when one looks at that site and realizes there's only 8 players that have made a 'decent' living the past 2 years. As for the rest of the SC2 players, without teams/sponsors, no idea how they'd get by. In particular this applies to Korean players, since everything is terribly more expensive in Korea than in the US (by in the US, I mean southern Californian metropolises, one of the most expensive regions in the country), ESPECIALLY in the big cities (eg. Seoul). If they didn't have 10+ guys living in a flat with major sponsorships backing them, they wouldn't be sitting too pretty, to say the least .
I don't think any progamer plans to live off of prize earnings. They make most of their money from sponsorships and such.
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nice. i dident know mma won. but its kool. nice to see money rankings for once. tryed to find that everywhere
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To people saying "Don't visit an SC2 News Site": TeamLiquid is more than a news site. It is a community of people who discuss the game itself. Not just recent results. This is NOT the news section of the forums, so I don't see why news should be posted here. If that is your argument, then people should not post their own news at all, and rely on the admins of TL to post it. If you do want other people to post news: it's not that hard to put a [Spoiler] in the title of the thread and make it ambiguous.
All of this discussion could have been avoided if the title was something a little less obvious, ie: [Spoiler] Update on financial standings of GSL Participants.
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On December 18 2011 13:52 Warlock40 wrote:
I'm sick of people complaining about results spoilers. It's gotten to the point where it's simply ridiculous.
Anyway, I'm surprised Polt and Fruit Dealer have made that much money! Poor MKP.... I guess 2nd place just doesn't bring home the dough.
I disagree. This one is a major spoiler and should not be a thread title.
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nice title :D i agree that spoiler rage is too much, dont go on tl before u watch the game then-.-
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Excellent thread title change.
On December 18 2011 13:58 Macabre wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 13:52 Warlock40 wrote:
I'm sick of people complaining about results spoilers. It's gotten to the point where it's simply ridiculous.
Anyway, I'm surprised Polt and Fruit Dealer have made that much money! Poor MKP.... I guess 2nd place just doesn't bring home the dough. I disagree. This one is a major spoiler and should not be a thread title.
It's not, except if you knew by heart that getting second place would not have been enough to get MMA over the 100k mark. And in that case, you're probably hardcore enough to have watched the game in the first place. :p
Looking over the thread the ratio seems to be about 2 spoiler complainers to 8 complainers about spoiler complainers. And I'm with the latter. Don't go to a SC2 news site if you are afraid of getting spoiled.
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shouldn't it at least block out the words after MMA? (the title)
but anyway does TL even have a rule regarding spoilers?
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lol at the new "SPOILER MMA $" thread title.
Why not "[SPOILER] New player joins the..." instead of saying MMA in the title?
Oh well.
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Stupid people in this thread. How is SC2 going to grow as an e-sport if half the world has to shut their mouths for a few days after a huge tournament?
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On December 18 2011 13:47 OldManZerg wrote:
Lol, I love how the spoiler tag in the title makes it even worse.
Yeah, that's the best part ;D
Probably a mod I guess.
Fortunately, I already watched 5 games and was kinda expected MMA to take it, so I just have to suck it up and enjoy the rest of the games without suspense or anything, just for their beautiful gosuness (which is already enough, I'm sure ^^)
And I know that I'm not supposed to browse TL if I don't want to get spoiled, but you know how it works, I opened randomly a new tab in my browser while writing my fucking paper, and clicked on TL like a brainless zombie, haha.
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On December 18 2011 14:10 ambrosiaa wrote:
Stupid people in this thread. How is SC2 going to grow as an e-sport if half the world has to shut their mouths for a few days after a huge tournament?
QFT.
Not much more to say than what ambrosiaa said. Don't go on TL if you don't want spoilers... forums are made for discussion. Why can't we discuss some matches that happened recently because some people haven't seen it yet?
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On December 18 2011 14:10 ambrosiaa wrote:
Stupid people in this thread. How is SC2 going to grow as an e-sport if half the world has to shut their mouths for a few days after a huge tournament?
No one is saying the post couldn't be made. The title of the thread should have been more ambiguous. If that concept is too difficult for you to grasp, you shouldn't be making news threads here to begin with.
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On December 18 2011 14:10 ambrosiaa wrote:
Stupid people in this thread. How is SC2 going to grow as an e-sport if half the world has to shut their mouths for a few days after a huge tournament?
actually its only for 48 hours and only applies to normal forum posts, the News section can post as much as it wants to. And since I don't have a reason to watch the match anymore; Congrats to MMA! I'm happy for you.
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I agree that results should not be arbitrarily spoiled. And what was even the point of the thread in the first place? Many people who are interested will look at sc2earnings and check on their favorites.
But to the people who got spoiled, it's not that hard to train yourself to stay away. TL is my homepage, but when there's a major tournament, I know I run the risk of spoiling myself, whether it be my own curiosity, a fan club that's getting bumped, or seeing a thread like this pop up. Advice from a famed wizard: "Keep it secret. Keep it safe."
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EDIT: Off topic, going offline to cool down for a while.
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this man deserves a translator icon >.<
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Glad I found this after I watched the games ^_^ I can't believe MVP is 3rd, hasn't he won the most? O_o?
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On December 18 2011 14:15 Integra wrote:
EDIT: Off topic, going offline to cool down for a while.
Sad, your post was actually accurate before you edited it, and it is what people saying "ZOMG DONT VISIT NEWS SITES LOLOL" don't understand.
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EDIT: Nvm title change actually does help....
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You almost had a point there, almost.
Let's start with the fact that teamliquid.net consistently reports everything LATE to begin with. Which means if you actually want the results of a tourney that finished 30 seconds ago, or 3 days ago, you go to an LR/results thread, located in your second link.
Then, let's look at what your second link actually is, which is supposed to make us all look like idiots. Oh, hey, it's the Starcraft 2 forum. A place where it so happens that you're guaranteed, yes I can say that confidently, guaranteed, to run into topics regarding Starcraft 2. If you're not looking to get spoiled regarding Starcraft 2 events during your 15 minute work break while you browse the Diablo 3 forum, you're the person that shouldn't be here.
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Thank you for the title change!
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lol, the title is finally ambiguous after several hours of raging.
Also, this article wasn't too newsworthy after reflection. I guess it just hypes MMA up more success wise.
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On December 18 2011 14:21 RaiKageRyu wrote:
lol, the title is finally ambiguous after several hours of raging.
Also, this article wasn't too newsworthy after reflection. I guess it just hypes MMA up more success wise.
it's not really THAT ambiguous if you know who's won GSL in the past and know a little math :x
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On December 18 2011 14:10 ambrosiaa wrote:
Stupid people in this thread. How is SC2 going to grow as an e-sport if half the world has to shut their mouths for a few days after a huge tournament?
...or people could use spoiler tags properly when they post news?
(Sorry, I'm talking crazy.)
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On December 18 2011 14:12 Okiesmokie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 14:10 ambrosiaa wrote:
Stupid people in this thread. How is SC2 going to grow as an e-sport if half the world has to shut their mouths for a few days after a huge tournament? No one is saying the post couldn't be made. The title of the thread should have been more ambiguous. If that concept is too difficult for you to grasp, you shouldn't be making news threads here to begin with.
Why should it have been more ambiguous? The thread is about MMA's prize money, the title should reflect that.
This type of stuff is definitely hurting esports.
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On December 18 2011 14:11 Juviax wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 14:10 ambrosiaa wrote:
Stupid people in this thread. How is SC2 going to grow as an e-sport if half the world has to shut their mouths for a few days after a huge tournament? QFT. Not much more to say than what ambrosiaa said. Don't go on TL if you don't want spoilers... forums are made for discussion. Why can't we discuss some matches that happened recently because some people haven't seen it yet?
Do you happen to have the read the forum rules of the site you are posting on atm?
As long as the rules are in people have the right to complain about it.
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On December 18 2011 14:31 Assirra wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 14:11 Juviax wrote:On December 18 2011 14:10 ambrosiaa wrote:
Stupid people in this thread. How is SC2 going to grow as an e-sport if half the world has to shut their mouths for a few days after a huge tournament? QFT. Not much more to say than what ambrosiaa said. Don't go on TL if you don't want spoilers... forums are made for discussion. Why can't we discuss some matches that happened recently because some people haven't seen it yet? Do you happen to have the read the forum rules of the site you are posting on atm? As long as the rules are in people have the right to complain about it.
There is also a rule about being off topic.
More than 50% of the posts in this thread are off-topic, it could be considered that it deserves to be closed because people can't control their urge to cry about spoilers.
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Really MODS? if you're going to protect the precious egg's, your thread title now is a spoiler.. it's pretty obvious DRG isn't who this thread is about.. given MMA has won... before.. ugh.. why do I bother... back to neogaf...
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On December 18 2011 14:44 Niick wrote:
Really MODS? if you're going to protect the precious egg's, your thread title now is a spoiler.. it's pretty obvious DRG isn't who this thread is about.. given MMA has won... before.. ugh.. why do I bother... back to neogaf...
Go back to your rock of a spoiler-free life.
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$100K a year is a dec living.
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fuck the guys complaining about spoilers, if you wanted to watch the whole series that bad, then why would you go on teamliquid???
dumb fucks
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Actually on topic:
I didn't realise how much more prize money was given for the first 3 seasons of GSL compared to the 2011 Code S seasons.
85k USD for first place in open seasons vs 45k USD for the Code S.
So I guess fruitdealer's 2 good tournament placings are enough to put him in the 100k club because they were in 2010.
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Only 1 USA player in top 10 earnings....
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On December 18 2011 15:21 mrKamiya wrote:
Only 1 USA player in top 10 earnings....
they're all korean?
BTW, the title is still a spoiler, the only possible addition to the 100,000 gsl earning club is MMA (if he won). Since even if DRG had won, he would still not make it into the 100,000. CHANGE IT PLSSSS!!!!!
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If you care so much about spoilers why the hell did you come to arguably one of the biggest news sites on starcraft? Of course there is going to be a few un-spoilered titles after such an amazing finals, if you can that much just dont come here until you have watched the vod lol...
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On December 18 2011 09:09 Kieofire wrote:
How does MC have more money than MVP? That is weird seeing as how MVP has won more championships.
MC and NesTea both won in the open seasons, which was a much bigger prize than the regular seasons
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Damn ESPN spoiling the Dallas game for me.
But really, I do like to read how the games went, and watch them if I get a chance. I don't visit TL if I really do not want to know the outcome of the games.
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Why the hell are people complaining about seeing results of a major event on a major sc2 news site? MAKES NO SENSE. GET OFF THE SITE if you don't want to see discussion about it.
Very cool to see, didn't realize FD had made so much... I guess the first GSL got him a lot.... nice thread
PS: an approximation shouldn't be exact
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On December 18 2011 15:24 brachester wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 15:21 mrKamiya wrote:
Only 1 USA player in top 10 earnings.... they're all korean? BTW, the title is still a spoiler, the only possible addition to the 100,000 gsl earning club is MMA (if he won). Since even if DRG had won, he would still not make it into the 100,000. CHANGE IT PLSSSS!!!!!
No, I mean in overall sc2 earnings.
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Ugh why the title change? So fucking unnecessary.
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On December 18 2011 16:29 Hall0wed wrote:
Ugh why the title change? So fucking unnecessary.
still a spoiler too
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Lol. This title sort of spoils too xD
but I guess it's hard to give it a title that is ambiguous and still be able to give you an idea of what the topic is about
Edit: nvm i see that the $ sign is cut off in the preview, so no problem
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On December 18 2011 16:35 brachester wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 16:29 Hall0wed wrote:
Ugh why the title change? So fucking unnecessary. still a spoiler too
I honestly don't see the point of calling this a spoiler. If you plan on watching a recent series you don't surf around on TL/Reddit until you've seen it. It's just common sense.
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On December 18 2011 15:24 brachester wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 15:21 mrKamiya wrote:
Only 1 USA player in top 10 earnings.... they're all korean? BTW, the title is still a spoiler, the only possible addition to the 100,000 gsl earning club is MMA (if he won). Since even if DRG had won, he would still not make it into the 100,000. CHANGE IT PLSSSS!!!!!
dont go on news sites if you dont want to be spoiled, as is it doesn't spoil anything in the side bar.
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On December 18 2011 21:56 Denzil wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 15:24 brachester wrote:On December 18 2011 15:21 mrKamiya wrote:
Only 1 USA player in top 10 earnings.... they're all korean? BTW, the title is still a spoiler, the only possible addition to the 100,000 gsl earning club is MMA (if he won). Since even if DRG had won, he would still not make it into the 100,000. CHANGE IT PLSSSS!!!!! dont go on news sites if you dont want to be spoiled, as is it doesn't spoil anything in the side bar.
i was being sarcastic if you haven't noticed yet -_-
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On December 18 2011 21:58 brachester wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 21:56 Denzil wrote:On December 18 2011 15:24 brachester wrote:On December 18 2011 15:21 mrKamiya wrote:
Only 1 USA player in top 10 earnings.... they're all korean? BTW, the title is still a spoiler, the only possible addition to the 100,000 gsl earning club is MMA (if he won). Since even if DRG had won, he would still not make it into the 100,000. CHANGE IT PLSSSS!!!!! dont go on news sites if you dont want to be spoiled, as is it doesn't spoil anything in the side bar. i was being sarcastic if you haven't noticed yet -_-
it is really hard to notice.
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Sick Nestea making like 250,000 bucks in a year. He should use that money and go into poker, with some dedication, he'll soon find himself being a multi million dollar guy.
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EPT
