• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 16:02
CET 22:02
KST 06:02
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3
Community News
[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage0Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win62025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!10BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION3
StarCraft 2
General
TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting RSL S3 Round of 16 RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" [TLCH] Mission 7: Last Stand Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Monday Nights Weeklies SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia $3,500 WardiTV Korean Royale S4 Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review RSL S3 ro16 [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions SnOw on 'Experimental' Nonstandard Maps in ASL Finding world war 2 allied hope / final players?
Tourneys
BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION [ASL20] Grand Finals Small VOD Thread 2.0 The Casual Games of the Week Thread
Strategy
Current Meta How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread ZeroSpace Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Dating: How's your luck? Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
AI is so fuckin funny
Peanutsc
Challenge: Maths isn't all…
Hildegard
Career Paths and Skills for …
TrAiDoS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1307 users

China Union Team to attend GSTL? - Page 11

Forum Index > SC2 General
270 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 14 Next All
oni_link
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany165 Posts
December 17 2011 03:06 GMT
#201
fenix all killing IM and other foreigner sucesses in GSTL prove you wrong, they may not be a finals candidate but definetely make up for good games.
?:O
winthrop
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Hong Kong956 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 03:16:53
December 17 2011 03:16 GMT
#202
they spread empty checks.
(P)xiaOt said he would participate in gsl 2011 tour.
and now it's time for edison.
Incredible Miracle
EricFartman
Profile Joined April 2010
China76 Posts
December 17 2011 03:19 GMT
#203
the big problem in China. SC2 is not really more ppl love it. they love Dota, LOL, CrossFire or MMO, so sad to me. Even no one play sc2 in public Netbar. Netbar is most important way for spreading sc2 in China. BLZ and Netease do nothing on it.
onedayclose
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1145 Posts
December 17 2011 03:29 GMT
#204
I really hope China gets to give it a try. Hopefully 5 players would be a starting point. I could definately see them picking up more players as they go. I just don't see how these Chinese teams would let their players go for such a long period of time. Might as well set up some sort of tenative loan deal. Who knows these players might end up qualifying for GSL further down the road or want to switch over to a Korean team to further extend their stay. Also I hope to see foreigner players return and try to make the GSTL roster for their respective Korean teams.
GSTL hype!!!! It will always be my favorite team league to watch!
onedayclose
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1145 Posts
December 17 2011 03:32 GMT
#205
On December 17 2011 12:19 EricFartman wrote:
the big problem in China. SC2 is not really more ppl love it. they love Dota, LOL, CrossFire or MMO, so sad to me. Even no one play sc2 in public Netbar. Netbar is most important way for spreading sc2 in China. BLZ and Netease do nothing on it.


Perhaps if these Netbars hosted more SC2 tournaments and/or barcraft events people would see what the game actually is. I can't imagine the BroodWar scene there has just disappeared.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44999 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 03:34:41
December 17 2011 03:34 GMT
#206
On December 17 2011 12:06 oni_link wrote:
fenix all killing IM and other foreigner sucesses in GSTL prove you wrong, they may not be a finals candidate but definetely make up for good games.


When did Fenix all-kill IM? Or do you mean qxc? (I think it's him.) Fenix is on IM.

Regardless, your point still stands.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Le French
Profile Joined December 2011
France782 Posts
December 17 2011 03:38 GMT
#207
What do the Chinese want? This is pretty exciting
Ca va?
.Aar
Profile Joined September 2010
2177 Posts
December 17 2011 04:06 GMT
#208
Wow, very exciting news indeed. I hope they do well!
now run into the setting sun, and suffer, but don't mess up your hair.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
December 17 2011 04:14 GMT
#209
On December 17 2011 12:32 onedayclose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 12:19 EricFartman wrote:
the big problem in China. SC2 is not really more ppl love it. they love Dota, LOL, CrossFire or MMO, so sad to me. Even no one play sc2 in public Netbar. Netbar is most important way for spreading sc2 in China. BLZ and Netease do nothing on it.


Perhaps if these Netbars hosted more SC2 tournaments and/or barcraft events people would see what the game actually is. I can't imagine the BroodWar scene there has just disappeared.


blizzard has done an awful job at promoting sc2 in asia from what i hear.
Jongl0
Profile Joined June 2011
631 Posts
December 17 2011 04:58 GMT
#210
This would be great, we see too little of these players from the outside.
brbwinning
Profile Joined June 2011
United States7 Posts
December 17 2011 05:58 GMT
#211
I highly doubt we'll be seeing sen as a part of this team. He is TAIWANESE, not CHINESE. Yes, there's a big difference if you're familiar with the two...
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
December 17 2011 06:06 GMT
#212
On December 17 2011 14:58 brbwinning wrote:
I highly doubt we'll be seeing sen as a part of this team. He is TAIWANESE, not CHINESE. Yes, there's a big difference if you're familiar with the two...


Believe me, Taiwanese are ethnically Chinese. Taiwan is just not part of PRC.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 17 2011 06:08 GMT
#213
This would be really cool if it happens. Can't wait! Always happy to see more people join GSL/GSTL
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
fish83814
Profile Joined July 2010
Taiwan98 Posts
December 17 2011 06:18 GMT
#214
On December 17 2011 15:06 ElephantBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 14:58 brbwinning wrote:
I highly doubt we'll be seeing sen as a part of this team. He is TAIWANESE, not CHINESE. Yes, there's a big difference if you're familiar with the two...


Believe me, Taiwanese are ethnically Chinese. Taiwan is just not part of PRC.



this is the most confusing part....sigh.....
why does English have to use the exact same word for so many different meaning??
you can never explain this clearly in English when language, nationality, race are all sharing an identical vocabulary

Taiwanese speaks Chinese(Mandarin)
Taiwanese are mostly Chinese(ethnically)
Taiwan is not a part of "People Republic of China"
Taiwan is also known as "Republic of China" or "Chinese Taipei" or "Separate Customs Territory of Taiwan, Penghu, Kinmen and Matsu"(this long stupid name is what we are forced to use to enter WTO)

hope this is clear enough for everybody and not cause any more confusion
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 07:27:45
December 17 2011 07:27 GMT
#215
On December 17 2011 12:32 onedayclose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 12:19 EricFartman wrote:
the big problem in China. SC2 is not really more ppl love it. they love Dota, LOL, CrossFire or MMO, so sad to me. Even no one play sc2 in public Netbar. Netbar is most important way for spreading sc2 in China. BLZ and Netease do nothing on it.


Perhaps if these Netbars hosted more SC2 tournaments and/or barcraft events people would see what the game actually is. I can't imagine the BroodWar scene there has just disappeared.

China had a BW scene? I didn't know that. I do know however that Warcraft 3 >> SC2 in China, just within the RTS genre.
chenchen
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1136 Posts
December 17 2011 07:32 GMT
#216
On December 17 2011 16:27 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 12:32 onedayclose wrote:
On December 17 2011 12:19 EricFartman wrote:
the big problem in China. SC2 is not really more ppl love it. they love Dota, LOL, CrossFire or MMO, so sad to me. Even no one play sc2 in public Netbar. Netbar is most important way for spreading sc2 in China. BLZ and Netease do nothing on it.


Perhaps if these Netbars hosted more SC2 tournaments and/or barcraft events people would see what the game actually is. I can't imagine the BroodWar scene there has just disappeared.

China had a BW scene? I didn't know that. I do know however that Warcraft 3 >> SC2 in China, just within the RTS genre.


Lol Brood War is probably currently bigger than SC2 right now in China.

With players like Pj and Lx, China was probably the second strongest BW country, but that really doesn't say much because Korea was so so far ahead of everyone else, in the sense that if you picked the one hundred best BW players in the world, they'd more likely than not be all Korean.
powerade = dragoon blood
twndomn
Profile Joined September 2010
401 Posts
December 17 2011 08:04 GMT
#217
On December 17 2011 15:06 ElephantBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 14:58 brbwinning wrote:
I highly doubt we'll be seeing sen as a part of this team. He is TAIWANESE, not CHINESE. Yes, there's a big difference if you're familiar with the two...


Believe me, Taiwanese are ethnically Chinese. Taiwan is just not part of PRC.


By your logic, Americans are ethnically British. US is just not part of Great Britain.
"If MC wins this, his name would not be SK MC, it would be ST MC, ST for Saint, performing miracles." - Artosis.
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 08:18:39
December 17 2011 08:12 GMT
#218
On December 17 2011 17:04 twndomn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 15:06 ElephantBaby wrote:
On December 17 2011 14:58 brbwinning wrote:
I highly doubt we'll be seeing sen as a part of this team. He is TAIWANESE, not CHINESE. Yes, there's a big difference if you're familiar with the two...


Believe me, Taiwanese are ethnically Chinese. Taiwan is just not part of PRC.


By your logic, Americans are ethnically British. US is just not part of Great Britain.


British is not a race, it is a nationality. And you can't even say Americans are Caucasian. Too many people in US are not white. If you are not from PRC or Taiwan, I definitely know better than you on that issue.
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
December 17 2011 08:59 GMT
#219
On December 17 2011 16:32 chenchen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 16:27 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
On December 17 2011 12:32 onedayclose wrote:
On December 17 2011 12:19 EricFartman wrote:
the big problem in China. SC2 is not really more ppl love it. they love Dota, LOL, CrossFire or MMO, so sad to me. Even no one play sc2 in public Netbar. Netbar is most important way for spreading sc2 in China. BLZ and Netease do nothing on it.


Perhaps if these Netbars hosted more SC2 tournaments and/or barcraft events people would see what the game actually is. I can't imagine the BroodWar scene there has just disappeared.

China had a BW scene? I didn't know that. I do know however that Warcraft 3 >> SC2 in China, just within the RTS genre.


Lol Brood War is probably currently bigger than SC2 right now in China.

With players like Pj and Lx, China was probably the second strongest BW country, but that really doesn't say much because Korea was so so far ahead of everyone else, in the sense that if you picked the one hundred best BW players in the world, they'd more likely than not be all Korean.

Quite interesting. Well, if and when Chinese BW converts to SC2, and by some ungodly miracle War3 switches to SC2 as well, I have little doubt China could also be the second best SC2 country.

In regards to the huge BW gap between Korea and everyone else, we'll probably see just the same if and when BW in Korea switches over to SC2. Keep your eyes on Kespa, boyo. Some BW teams are already playing SC2. Within a year or two, who knows, Kespa and the teams could decide it is time to switch to SC2. Surely then, Oblivion will open.
MildSeven
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada311 Posts
December 17 2011 09:43 GMT
#220
Chinese players could gain a lot by having more Korean experience, their style is too secluded to their region, they will be much stronger through constant competitions with international scene. Without much exposure to international scene, they are already better than 90% of the foreigners, with more exposure to int scene, learning of more styles and such will make them much stronger.
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 14 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
LAN Event
18:00
Merivale 8: Swiss Groups Day 1
SteadfastSC382
IndyStarCraft 264
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SteadfastSC 382
IndyStarCraft 264
White-Ra 245
UpATreeSC 87
JuggernautJason50
Railgan 40
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 674
NaDa 26
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps983
Foxcn175
Super Smash Bros
Liquid`Ken20
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu475
Other Games
Grubby2325
Beastyqt924
FrodaN553
Mlord466
mouzStarbuck308
Fuzer 188
Pyrionflax144
ArmadaUGS105
C9.Mang098
Trikslyr44
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL233
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 33
• Adnapsc2 19
• Reevou 3
• Dystopia_ 2
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 30
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• Ler90
League of Legends
• TFBlade1419
Other Games
• imaqtpie1219
• WagamamaTV321
• Shiphtur70
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Monday
3h 58m
Replay Cast
11h 58m
WardiTV Korean Royale
14h 58m
LAN Event
17h 58m
OSC
1d 1h
The PondCast
1d 12h
LAN Event
1d 17h
Replay Cast
2 days
LAN Event
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
LAN Event
3 days
IPSL
3 days
dxtr13 vs OldBoy
Napoleon vs Doodle
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
LAN Event
4 days
IPSL
4 days
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025

Upcoming

BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
META Madness #9
LHT Stage 1
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.