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ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
December 14 2011 21:35 GMT
#241
On December 15 2011 06:33 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote:
So nani manned up and apologized for his mistakes now gom needs to apologize for theirs.


They would first have to qualify it as a mistake. I doubt they see it that way, although I'm sure it won't take them long to forget all about this incident.
senty
Profile Joined June 2011
62 Posts
December 14 2011 21:35 GMT
#242
great statement, at first, what naniwa did made alot of sense to me, since i know pretty much how he thinks and acts after he loses games, especially when they are so close as they were, I can understand why he just wanted to get it over with, since it wasent more to the game than just playing it out and fight for the win, if not for himself then for his fans etc.

He learned his lesson, Lets move on from this and leave it behind as an example of what not to do.
<3 Naniwa
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 21:37:40
December 14 2011 21:35 GMT
#243
Naniwa just co-casts with khaldor, he doesnt seem to be too mad

€: great statements, seems to be alright now. What bothers me more is that idra and sen get free code S spot for technically nothing (i dont say they are bad or they had bad results at all, especially sen deserves it. but what qualifies idra over stephano for expample?). It feels like a christmas present :/
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Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
December 14 2011 21:36 GMT
#244
On December 15 2011 06:27 jazzyjazz wrote:
Hey Quantic Gaming,

Organize a bo5 or bo7 showmatch pitting Naniwa against Nestea. Put up a $1000 prize pool, have of the prize pool goes to the winner while the other half goes to the winner's choice of charity.

This would give the fans the "rival match" that was "stolen" from them and it would be good PR. This would also help mend the relationship between Naniwa/Quantic and the e-sport community.


That'd be cool! Why not make it the 850$ (right?) nani was payed from the tourney, and put all of it to charity.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 14 2011 21:36 GMT
#245
Can you guys take the redundant arguments to the other threads?
InFi.asc
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany518 Posts
December 14 2011 21:36 GMT
#246
thank you for the statement.

I always appreciate players/teams/organisations reacting to those situations and giving a response '!
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SnowfaLL
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada730 Posts
December 14 2011 21:36 GMT
#247
Naniwa will always have my support. I truely think all the "misunderstandings" that happens with him are exactly that; misunderstandings and cultural differences that are things Naniwa seriously doesnt consider before it happens, because he has one goal and thats to be #1 at every tournament.
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grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
December 14 2011 21:36 GMT
#248
On December 15 2011 06:34 Hubris wrote:
Wow. This thread has taught me some Naniwa supporters will go to any length to defend him, even going as far to dismiss his own appology...


I don't understand, are you implying that the people that doubt his apology are actually Naniwa fans and not his haters?
We make signature, then defense it.
BrassMonkey
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada84 Posts
December 14 2011 21:37 GMT
#249
I swear my like/hate naniwa meter swings so violently its like the stock market
TOO EZ
Jacuzzi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States528 Posts
December 14 2011 21:37 GMT
#250
That's a nice PC statement that Quantic wrote up and Nani signed on to save his ass - only AFTER his spot from Code S was forfeited.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 21:38:22
December 14 2011 21:37 GMT
#251
On December 15 2011 06:22 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 06:19 twndomn wrote:
It's really a cultural gap. Not even IdrA would dare to do what Naniwa has done, while IN Korea. IdrA spent years in Korea to understand Korean culture (perhaps respect, status quo... etc) and then to get some respects from the Koreans. Naniwa has yet to do that.

I think it's a cultural gap both ways. I think if Sundance was in Mr. Chae's position, you'd see the league taking responsibility for the format and not punishing the player this harshly. Both parties have been disrespectful and acted inappropriately. One has apologized and taken responsibility and now the other ought to.


I agree there is a cultural gap. Naniwa called MLG a joke tournament live on stage for all to see. It doesn't get anymore disrespectful than dissing the tournament you're currently participating in live on stage. What did sundance do? Absolutely nothing. That shows me that MLG doesn't mind players crapping on their tourney at all. Gom will not stand for similar actions, nor should they. They have nothing to apologize for here and only need to accept quantic's and naniwa's apology. Case closed and time to move on.
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Mannekino
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands15 Posts
December 14 2011 21:37 GMT
#252
Hey NaNiwa,

I did not like what you did at MLG and your ceremony after winning the game against NesTea was really awkward. I was angry yesterday after you did that. I actually stopped watching the vods after that game. But I have an idea for you. This is the last tournament of the year for GSL. Why don't you offer to close the year with a great game?

Head over to NesTea and the guys at GOMTV and offer to play a best BO5 series to close the year out. It can be casted by Khaldor and Wolf and it doesn't even have to be in the studio; but that would be great.

Just offer it, say you are available at ANY TIME and make it clear that you want to provide the fans and viewers with awesome games. And whatever the result; shake the hand of NesTea afterwards with a slight bow. And make it clear to the viewers you will be "a better gamer" next year bye showing it with your actions not your words!

Make It Happen!
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
December 14 2011 21:37 GMT
#253
On December 15 2011 06:36 Cascade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 06:27 jazzyjazz wrote:
Hey Quantic Gaming,

Organize a bo5 or bo7 showmatch pitting Naniwa against Nestea. Put up a $1000 prize pool, have of the prize pool goes to the winner while the other half goes to the winner's choice of charity.

This would give the fans the "rival match" that was "stolen" from them and it would be good PR. This would also help mend the relationship between Naniwa/Quantic and the e-sport community.


That'd be cool! Why not make it the 850$ (right?) nani was payed from the tourney, and put all of it to charity.


This sounds like an amazing idea. It would also give high level starcraft over the brake
Mashmed
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden198 Posts
December 14 2011 21:37 GMT
#254
On December 15 2011 06:16 Skwid1g wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 06:09 KAkos MAgos wrote:
well dont apologize. idra ragequits and is badmannered too and no one says something.
GOMTV is being sillly with its descision. comon. ITS A GAME WTF. thank go we are not like the koreans and take that whole gaming thing so seriously.


Idra never bm'd in the GSL for a reason. Idra knows how to keep his composure when it counts, which is what seperates him from Naniwa.

And yes, it's a game. A game that Mr. Chae has put a HUGE amount of time and money into and one that a lot of people are, you know, MAKING THEIR LIVING off of. I'm pretty sure Naniwa takes "that whole gaming thing" pretty seriously himself.

Idra has years of experience with crazy koreans... he was more than prepared for his sc2 career in korea. He has said some bad shit in broodwar... There was a video a while back with a commentator ranting about idra not being a real programer because of how he acted so.. Idra made the mistake and learned a lesson. Which is why he wouldnt do it again not because he is somehow more mature than naniwa by default..
Gosh Digglydarnit
HandleTaken
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden81 Posts
December 14 2011 21:37 GMT
#255
Great statement. I hope Naniwa is sincere with his apology.

While I don't defend what Naniwa did I'm still waiting on a longer statement from GOM.
Although GOM runs it's tournaments anyway they please they have some responsibility in blowing this incident way out of proportion.

(They could have given Naniwa a warning and/or a fine. Instead they threw him out of code S.)
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
December 14 2011 21:37 GMT
#256
On December 15 2011 06:36 Cascade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 06:27 jazzyjazz wrote:
Hey Quantic Gaming,

Organize a bo5 or bo7 showmatch pitting Naniwa against Nestea. Put up a $1000 prize pool, have of the prize pool goes to the winner while the other half goes to the winner's choice of charity.

This would give the fans the "rival match" that was "stolen" from them and it would be good PR. This would also help mend the relationship between Naniwa/Quantic and the e-sport community.

That'd be cool! Why not make it the 850$ (right?) nani was payed from the tourney, and put all of it to charity.

I would donate to this prize pool.
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milky_muh
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden38 Posts
December 14 2011 21:37 GMT
#257
This is why I love naniwa!!!!!!!!!!!! <3
PolskaGora
Profile Joined May 2011
United States547 Posts
December 14 2011 21:38 GMT
#258
I don't buy it. There have simply been too many incidents in the past with Naniwa to make me believe that one incident will change his outlook on his career. People don't change so quickly. He may feel bad about it but only because the consequences of his actions affected him directly. It is well known Naniwa plays only for himself, so an apology targeted mainly at his fans is something quite out of the ordinary for him. He only apologized because he has to if he wants to remain on good terms with tournament organizers.

Props to GOMTV for maintaining a standard of sportsmanship, respect, and courtesy. Keep up the good work!
Tracking treasure down
itsjustatank
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Hong Kong9154 Posts
December 14 2011 21:38 GMT
#259
On December 15 2011 06:37 Jacuzzi wrote:
That's a nice PC statement that Quantic wrote up and Nani signed on to save his ass - only AFTER his spot from Code S was forfeited.


Because that was a completely predictable outcome to playing out a meaningless game with a 6 probe rush, right?
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Legio
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden235 Posts
December 14 2011 21:38 GMT
#260
Clearly, this is damage control written by some Quantic PR guy. Naniwas english isn't that good. However, the message is directed towards GSL and Korea.. I think Naniwa already knows that 95% of the western audience has his back on this issue.

Will be interesting to see how this affects Naniwa in the future. We know he is an emotional guy. Will this give him a need for revenge to prove the koreans wrong, or will he instead focus his play on the western tournaments this season, as he is not bound by weekly GSL matches anymore.
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