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khaosis
Canada96 Posts
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ChowChillaCharlie
Sweden677 Posts
On December 15 2011 06:27 Fjodorov wrote: Pretty painfull to see a honest guy like Naniwa have to do this ceromonial dance to please the community. All he wants to do is play his game, when he loses he wants to gtfo and prepare for the next competition. The world is what it is, ppl need their drama, acting, and fake games. I would have to agree with this... But in any case, i think it's for the best if we just get past this whole incident, the sooner the better. | ||
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TheBB
Switzerland5133 Posts
On December 15 2011 06:29 Sbrubbles wrote: A well written apology by Quantic and Naniwa. I just find this part a bit strange: Isn't implore too strong of a word? Nah, it's fine. Well written statement (for once, in this matter). I'm done with this now. So should the rest of you be...  | ||
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Scrandom
Canada2819 Posts
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TissTuss
Sweden33 Posts
On December 15 2011 06:30 chadissilent wrote: That apology wasn't written by NaNiwa, Quantic PR wrote it up for him. Good thing you know mate. | ||
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cscarfo1
United States307 Posts
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CuddlyCuteKitten
Sweden2895 Posts
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Derez
Netherlands6068 Posts
Also, Quantic is a professional team and I'm sure they've spoken to the GSL management about this. They aren't pulling him out of code A for no reason for a full season. They're obviously trying to create a solution where Nani repents with a nice holiday in January (god knows he has the cash ;p) and then gets seeded into the second code S in the season. Which would be the optimal solution in my opinion. | ||
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Jono7272
United Kingdom6330 Posts
On December 15 2011 06:30 chadissilent wrote: That apology wasn't written by NaNiwa, Quantic PR wrote it up for him. Of course.. But its so much better than nothing. Hopefully GOM accept the apology and we can move on from the topic now. | ||
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Russano
United States434 Posts
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Waah
United States120 Posts
On December 15 2011 06:28 Wicelo wrote: This whole story is pathetic Naniwa did nothing wrong by probe rushing it's the tournament format that is fucked up. I'm disapointed that Naniwa apologized though he should assume his acts proudly not surrendering to those silly pieces of shit. Sometimes, one has to be willing to yield. Conflicts only escalate further when both sides have excessive pride. Whether you perceive this statement to be sincere or insincere, it's better than risking a career just because of pride. | ||
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Hubris
United States113 Posts
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IAmSpooner
Sweden111 Posts
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chosenkerrigan
858 Posts
On December 15 2011 06:32 Mashmed wrote: Thank god not everyone thinks like you do. The entire world would be north korea where doing anything that isnt ok by the leaders will get you hung. Pretty sure it wouldn't, but whatever | ||
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-y0shi-
Germany994 Posts
On December 15 2011 06:30 Eurekastreet wrote: Not entirely related but, on Khaldor stream, while watching Goody play a few minutes ago, Nani said he once played goody and only had 5 probes left vs 30 of Goody and stayed in the game because "well, it's goody". And then he added "I should have 5 probe rushed him". Anyone who can appreciate his extremely dry humor and arrogance should turn to it right now, it's gold. For the others, it's probably better to just do sthg else. I'm dreaming of a Khaldor+Idra+Naniwa casting evening in Korea in the near future. This was after khaldor said "you couldnt even 7 probe rush him" -.- Why do people put stuff out of context | ||
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pookadin
Australia422 Posts
EDIT: Reading over these responses, all the naniwa supporters dismissing Naniwas' own apology? WTF.. | ||
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CajunMan
United States823 Posts
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Angel_
United States1617 Posts
On December 15 2011 06:22 Liquid`Tyler wrote: I think it's a cultural gap both ways. I think if Sundance was in Mr. Chae's position, you'd see the league taking responsibility for the format and not punishing the player this harshly. Both parties have been disrespectful and acted inappropriately. One has apologized and taken responsibility and now the other ought to. But can you really say given other possible punishments that it's THAT severe? Yes players are human. Yes personally I would like a universal "all players are White-ra and Boxer and will play no matter how emotionally broken they are and give it 110%". But at the same time yes I realize that that isn't realistic. But there are other options than simply clearly throwing a game. I won't advocate "4 gate and pretend"; but straight GG-ing would be a better option than blatant disrespect. Gom should own up for the fact that the tournament structure was flawed. Regardless of that though I cannot and will not justify any argument that it's okay that he acted in that way "because there was no rule against it." I'm not pretending to put words in your mouth specifically and imply that you've made any sort of argument that it's "okay" that he did either. Yes errors were made on both sides. I don't think that's a cultural issue though. I don't think saying to a player, "hey don't be unprofessional" is a cultural phenomenon, at least I really hope it isn't, because it would absolutely depress me if that's what "Westerners" have devolved to. I think the only possible culture piece involved comes from Gom not apologizing. I can see a culture argument in that the organization has no flaw and players have a very distinct place and standard, and the organization can do no wrong. But if that's the argument that's being made about cultural differences it needs to be that. It needs to be Korea takes it's esports very very seriously and demands respect for it's organizations (which frankly should be something all esports organizations do for the sake of the legitimacy of esports and sc2), but in Korea as a player you will always be at the mercy of the ones in charge, because you are just a player, as opposed to more Western ideas where management can be flawed and in some cases more....lax in response to behavior because of it. | ||
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[17]Purple
United Kingdom3489 Posts
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JustPassingBy
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