Lmfao

Have you not watched him in the last 6 months?

He cheeses protoss 30-40% of the time, doing hatch cancel roach all-ins, hydra/nydus timing, roach drops etc.

Agaisnt T, he rarely does roach/ling all-ins, but why should he if his muta play is extremely powerful?

They just usually lose becuase zerg cheese is shitty unless the protoss plays ultimate greedy like Naniwa did vs Leenock with 1 cannon nexus first.

Interesting.

I only saw idra stream a couple days ago and he didnt appear to do so well in any of the MU. Probably due to the recent move to korea, or just because I watched a relatively small sample of his games.

Based on what you say, I retract my reasoning; however, I retain my skepticism

wei2coolman

United States60033 Posts

December 20 2011 02:42 GMT

#1583

Idra will do good, as long as he avoids protoss in GSL.

Alpha Plague

Canada23 Posts

December 20 2011 05:16 GMT

#1584

It's not as thought Idra doesn't deserve Code S. When he left Korea he was in Code S, if memory serves me correctly he was actually the most stable foreign player in the GSL. Top 16-8 each season he was there. Wonder if he'll be able to make a run into top 4? All that time in America may not have helped his play, but maybe it was the psyche that was failing him?

storm44

1293 Posts

December 20 2011 05:18 GMT

#1585

code s back then is like code b now

tdt

United States3179 Posts

December 20 2011 05:50 GMT

#1586

On December 20 2011 14:18 storm44 wrote:
code s back then is like code b now

Exactly. They will be flushed quick for those worried about this. Don't fret purity guys. 1-2 seasons max

psychotics

United States184 Posts

December 20 2011 07:28 GMT

#1587

I think a lot of you that are saying that Idra or Sen don't deserve their spots should reconsider. Idra has performed very well in the past gsl's when he was in code S, has had many recent strong finishes in foreign tournaments. Sen has had very strong consistent performances for just as long. Everyone that is jumping on the stephano band wagon is doesn't seem to understand that at a professional level consistent play is more important then winning a few tournaments. That is my opinion on why Idra and Sen deserve these spots

Keyboard Warrior

United States1178 Posts

December 20 2011 07:32 GMT

#1588

On December 20 2011 14:50 tdt wrote:

Show nested quote +

Exactly. They will be flushed quick for those worried about this. Don't fret purity guys. 1-2 seasons max

How can we be so sure? Give them some slack

KillAudio

1364 Posts

December 20 2011 12:41 GMT

#1589

edit: wrong thread wtf.

Ravnemesteren

224 Posts

December 20 2011 13:22 GMT

#1590

On December 20 2011 14:18 storm44 wrote:
code s back then is like code b now

I never understood this argument. Yeah, everyone was worse back then. So what? Its not like the skill level of everyone outside of GSL stood still ... I am not arguing if IdrA and Sen are code S level or not, I just dont see the logic in your argument.

KeksX

Germany3634 Posts

December 20 2011 13:31 GMT

#1591

On December 20 2011 14:18 storm44 wrote:
code s back then is like code b now

Thats why Code S players always win vs everyone in the world and they never lose and are so over the top that they win every tournament they enter.

Oh wait, they don't.

GSL is no isolated universe where players are just different. They are still playing the same game and they lose in tournaments outside of GSL and people that didn't play in the GSL all year long are capable of doing well in GSL Code S.

twndomn

401 Posts

December 20 2011 21:23 GMT

#1592

The focus should Not be whether Sen & Idra qualify or not, should be setting a realistic expectation for both of them. I highly doubt they would get into round of 16.
Keep in mind that Sen has been practicing on KR+TW ladder for at least a year, while Idra only start doing so in the past couple weeks.

Yaki

France4234 Posts

December 20 2011 21:27 GMT

#1593

On December 21 2011 06:23 twndomn wrote:
The focus should Not be whether Sen & Idra qualify or not, should be setting a realistic expectation for both of them. I highly doubt they would get into round of 16.
Keep in mind that Sen has been practicing on KR+TW ladder for at least a year, while Idra only start doing so in the past couple weeks.

It all depends on which race they will get to play against and which opponents of course but I don't see them making it to the ro16 neither.

KimJongChill

United States6429 Posts

December 20 2011 21:30 GMT

#1594

They are two of the best foreigner code s zergs, but I'm afraid they might have a difficult time in code s, which as we've seen in recent days is becoming increasingly selective. I'd pin stephano as the only foreigner zerg who could do well in code s, although I'm sure sen and idra could hold their own.

twndomn

401 Posts

January 04 2012 23:42 GMT

#1595

Well..., after the grouping came out, all is moot. IdrA got screwed by having NesTea And MVP in the same group. Sen had to play against 3 Terrans (not a big surprise).

CeriseCherries

6170 Posts

January 04 2012 23:53 GMT

#1596

On January 05 2012 08:42 twndomn wrote:
Well..., after the grouping came out, all is moot. IdrA got screwed by having NesTea And MVP in the same group. Sen had to play against 3 Terrans (not a big surprise).

-.- honestly its a pretty damn good excuse to lose and have the reason be "I played Nestea and MVP"... geez only 6 GSL titles? what a paltry amount

theMiNUS

United States333 Posts

January 05 2012 00:08 GMT

#1597

because of time constraints, i usually only watch my favorites and foreigners in GSL... and recently, there hasn't been deep foreigner runs... hope IdrA and/or Sen can change this!