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Please discuss IdrA and Sen in Code S January in this thread.
llKenZyll
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States853 Posts
December 20 2011 02:24 GMT
#1581
Go idra go!!!
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/nd6nd/tang_in_his_natural_habitat/
Roxy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada753 Posts
December 20 2011 02:33 GMT
#1582
On December 20 2011 10:15 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 09:40 Roxy wrote:
I think idra and sen are underqualified for code S

dont get me wrong, they are both spectacular players, but they have critical flaws

Idra needs to cheese more so that people will play honest against him. All to often you will see someone getting an edge on him because htey are playing against idra, not becaus ehtey are playing against a zerg that has every zerg strategy at their disposal.

Sen has a critical flaw in the sense that he falls apart late game. I have seen him take a commanding lead on a ton of games only to throw it away in the mid-late game by not expanding or takign advantage of his situation.

Hopefulyl i am wrong about this, and hopefully they just dont get right down to code a (where I think they belong), but that is my guess as to how this will end up.



Lmfao

Have you not watched him in the last 6 months?

He cheeses protoss 30-40% of the time, doing hatch cancel roach all-ins, hydra/nydus timing, roach drops etc.

Agaisnt T, he rarely does roach/ling all-ins, but why should he if his muta play is extremely powerful?

They just usually lose becuase zerg cheese is shitty unless the protoss plays ultimate greedy like Naniwa did vs Leenock with 1 cannon nexus first.


Interesting.

I only saw idra stream a couple days ago and he didnt appear to do so well in any of the MU. Probably due to the recent move to korea, or just because I watched a relatively small sample of his games.

Based on what you say, I retract my reasoning; however, I retain my skepticism
http://sc2ranks.com/us/941824/Roxy - Masters Protoss: "Respect my authoritai"
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 20 2011 02:42 GMT
#1583
Idra will do good, as long as he avoids protoss in GSL.
liftlift > tsm
Alpha Plague
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada23 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 05:16:48
December 20 2011 05:16 GMT
#1584
It's not as thought Idra doesn't deserve Code S. When he left Korea he was in Code S, if memory serves me correctly he was actually the most stable foreign player in the GSL. Top 16-8 each season he was there. Wonder if he'll be able to make a run into top 4? All that time in America may not have helped his play, but maybe it was the psyche that was failing him?
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should...
storm44
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1293 Posts
December 20 2011 05:18 GMT
#1585
code s back then is like code b now
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 05:50:43
December 20 2011 05:50 GMT
#1586
On December 20 2011 14:18 storm44 wrote:
code s back then is like code b now

Exactly. They will be flushed quick for those worried about this. Don't fret purity guys. 1-2 seasons max
MC for president
psychotics
Profile Joined July 2011
United States184 Posts
December 20 2011 07:28 GMT
#1587
I think a lot of you that are saying that Idra or Sen don't deserve their spots should reconsider. Idra has performed very well in the past gsl's when he was in code S, has had many recent strong finishes in foreign tournaments. Sen has had very strong consistent performances for just as long. Everyone that is jumping on the stephano band wagon is doesn't seem to understand that at a professional level consistent play is more important then winning a few tournaments. That is my opinion on why Idra and Sen deserve these spots
Keyboard Warrior
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1178 Posts
December 20 2011 07:32 GMT
#1588
On December 20 2011 14:50 tdt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 14:18 storm44 wrote:
code s back then is like code b now

Exactly. They will be flushed quick for those worried about this. Don't fret purity guys. 1-2 seasons max

How can we be so sure? Give them some slack
Not your regular Keyboard Warrior ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
KillAudio
Profile Joined October 2010
1364 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 15:10:25
December 20 2011 12:41 GMT
#1589
edit: wrong thread wtf.
From a scale of sheth to idra, how mad are you?
Ravnemesteren
Profile Joined May 2011
224 Posts
December 20 2011 13:22 GMT
#1590
On December 20 2011 14:18 storm44 wrote:
code s back then is like code b now


I never understood this argument. Yeah, everyone was worse back then. So what? Its not like the skill level of everyone outside of GSL stood still ... I am not arguing if IdrA and Sen are code S level or not, I just dont see the logic in your argument.

KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 13:32:26
December 20 2011 13:31 GMT
#1591
On December 20 2011 14:18 storm44 wrote:
code s back then is like code b now

Thats why Code S players always win vs everyone in the world and they never lose and are so over the top that they win every tournament they enter.

Oh wait, they don't.

GSL is no isolated universe where players are just different. They are still playing the same game and they lose in tournaments outside of GSL and people that didn't play in the GSL all year long are capable of doing well in GSL Code S.
twndomn
Profile Joined September 2010
401 Posts
December 20 2011 21:23 GMT
#1592
The focus should Not be whether Sen & Idra qualify or not, should be setting a realistic expectation for both of them. I highly doubt they would get into round of 16.
Keep in mind that Sen has been practicing on KR+TW ladder for at least a year, while Idra only start doing so in the past couple weeks.

"If MC wins this, his name would not be SK MC, it would be ST MC, ST for Saint, performing miracles." - Artosis.
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
December 20 2011 21:27 GMT
#1593
On December 21 2011 06:23 twndomn wrote:
The focus should Not be whether Sen & Idra qualify or not, should be setting a realistic expectation for both of them. I highly doubt they would get into round of 16.
Keep in mind that Sen has been practicing on KR+TW ladder for at least a year, while Idra only start doing so in the past couple weeks.


It all depends on which race they will get to play against and which opponents of course but I don't see them making it to the ro16 neither.
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
December 20 2011 21:30 GMT
#1594
They are two of the best foreigner code s zergs, but I'm afraid they might have a difficult time in code s, which as we've seen in recent days is becoming increasingly selective. I'd pin stephano as the only foreigner zerg who could do well in code s, although I'm sure sen and idra could hold their own.
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
twndomn
Profile Joined September 2010
401 Posts
January 04 2012 23:42 GMT
#1595
Well..., after the grouping came out, all is moot. IdrA got screwed by having NesTea And MVP in the same group. Sen had to play against 3 Terrans (not a big surprise).
"If MC wins this, his name would not be SK MC, it would be ST MC, ST for Saint, performing miracles." - Artosis.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
January 04 2012 23:53 GMT
#1596
On January 05 2012 08:42 twndomn wrote:
Well..., after the grouping came out, all is moot. IdrA got screwed by having NesTea And MVP in the same group. Sen had to play against 3 Terrans (not a big surprise).


-.- honestly its a pretty damn good excuse to lose and have the reason be "I played Nestea and MVP"... geez only 6 GSL titles? what a paltry amount
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
theMiNUS
Profile Joined January 2011
United States333 Posts
January 05 2012 00:08 GMT
#1597
because of time constraints, i usually only watch my favorites and foreigners in GSL... and recently, there hasn't been deep foreigner runs... hope IdrA and/or Sen can change this!
not idly do the leaves of lorien fall...
willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
January 05 2012 00:10 GMT
#1598
On December 20 2011 22:22 Ravnemesteren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 14:18 storm44 wrote:
code s back then is like code b now


I never understood this argument. Yeah, everyone was worse back then. So what? Its not like the skill level of everyone outside of GSL stood still ... I am not arguing if IdrA and Sen are code S level or not, I just dont see the logic in your argument.



I think what he meant is saying "he used to be in Code S when he left' has no validity anymore since Code S back THEN is Code B NOW.
Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid!
ZergX
Profile Joined October 2010
France436 Posts
January 08 2012 20:30 GMT
#1599
Sen fighting ! C'mon Sen ! gogogo !
Nestea fightingg ! DRG fightingggg !! Sen fightinggg ! July fighting ! SoO fighting !
Synergy
Profile Joined October 2010
United States90 Posts
January 10 2012 04:56 GMT
#1600
Are they both playing tonight?
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