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tnud
Sweden2233 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:50 Tofugrinder wrote: actually no. He may or may not loose but one thing is for certain, he will _NOT_ get raped. Raping a very serious crime and should _NEVER_ be used in terms of "he will loose". ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/QmsBN.jpg) You mean like this? People are so sensitive about certain words nowadays. | ||
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Ace.Xile
United States286 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:43 Ghanburighan wrote: Let me quote myself and others from the thread: "Players should play their hearts out!" For elaboration, search back in the thread (or any other thread). I'm not your slave that needs to personally deliver each post that you choose to ignore. I could go back again and again and answer this, but it straight comes down to, why should professional competitors play their hearts out when they are no longer essentially competing. They aren't there to entertain audiences (inherently at least), they aren't there to do anything but compete, once the real competition has ended, which it had, the game just turns into entertainment which isn't what competitive players are there for. This situation is almost identical to what happens in the NFL every year at the end of the season, teams put in their 3rd string players for multiple reasons, the biggest being that the games don't matter and it's more beneficial for them to put in their 3rd string players. Yes you can argue that those 3rd string players are playing their heart out, but thats an entirely different situation, the discussion should be about the team and the game in general. The overall play and quality of the games is much worse than it would be with the 1st string team in, and the team as a whole isn't even a fraction of what it could be. NFL teams putting in significantly worse players at the end of the season which result in a very poor game quality is no different than Naniwa using a horrible strategy that ends in a very poor game, they both might as well be forfeiting because the games are meaningless. | ||
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MandoRelease
France374 Posts
Good luck to both of them, I can't wait to see them play ! | ||
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Benjef
United Kingdom6921 Posts
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
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Gigaschatten
Germany79 Posts
These guys are earning money with it! I hope most of them will understand that they also have to react that way. There is more to it than just playing a game, this also includes behaviour in general, professionalism and much more. I disliked the thumbs down action from Naniwa a lot. In which other sports do you see this? The Gracken e.g. is a great player, but he has to work on his approach to winning a game when he is behind. He is not playing for himself but for his fans too. Right decision from GomTV! Keep up the good work. | ||
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Clazziquai10
Singapore1949 Posts
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Asmodeusz
193 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:35 EdouarKiLL wrote: A high master with a 50% winratio dont have his place in codeS. Cmon ! Idra is nowere near the code S level. He will get raped. They should have invited huk, sase, or stephano instead (they are in korea). I laughed hard. You really think few days of ladder in new environment represents players capability? I bet you are one of those people that call anyone "best player in the world" after they win 1 tournament. | ||
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StUfF
Australia1437 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:57 Clazziquai10 wrote: Booting out someone who worked hard to earn his code S spot because of a childish mistake and replacing him with someone who did nothing to earn it. Really nice logic there, GOMTV. Sen/Idra did the exact same thing as Naniwa. Place highly in a foreign tournamnet. | ||
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iglocska
Norway589 Posts
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arfyron
518 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:56 Benjef wrote: Go Sen he can compete easily with the top Koreans. But I don't see Idra doing well, Naniwa would have done much better. Yeah you aren't biased at all. I'm sure naniwa who has never won a gsl game will do so much better than idra | ||
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Benjef
United Kingdom6921 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:00 StUfF wrote: Sen/Idra did the exact same thing as Naniwa. Place highly in a foreign tournamnet. Idra hasn't really.... Sase/Naniwa/Stephano/Sen would all be much more deserving of the place. All having placed high in some recent tournaments (Sase got 2nd in some chinese tournament a while back afaik.) Idra did litterally nothing, and is even more BM.... On December 14 2011 21:01 arfyron wrote: Yeah you aren't biased at all. I'm sure naniwa who has never won a gsl game will do so much better than idra Naniwa beats Koreans on a much more regular basis that Idra does in other tournaments. | ||
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
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twndomn
401 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:00 StUfF wrote: Sen/Idra did the exact same thing as Naniwa. Place highly in a foreign tournamnet. Except Sen actually play on KR/TW server; hence higher quality of practice opponents. GOM's logic is simple; it wants Idra and US subscribers. Naniwa doesn't really bring out the European subscriptions does he? | ||
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tnud
Sweden2233 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:05 twndomn wrote: Except Sen actually play on KR/TW server; hence higher quality of practice opponents. GOM's logic is simple; it wants Idra and US subscribers. Naniwa doesn't really bring out the European subscriptions does he? Sweden is the third biggest watcher after USA and Canada. | ||
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StUfF
Australia1437 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:02 Benjef wrote: Idra hasn't really.... Sase/Naniwa/Stephano/Sen would all be much more deserving of the place. All having placed high in some recent tournaments (Sase got 2nd in some chinese tournament a while back afaik.) Idra did litterally nothing, and is even more BM.... Naniwa beats Koreans on a much more regular basis that Idra does in other tournaments. Idra won IEM china, placed highly in multiple MLGs (same thing as Naniwa did to earn his spots). | ||
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Fatalize
France5210 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:02 Benjef wrote: Idra hasn't really.... Sase/Naniwa/Stephano/Sen would all be much more deserving of the place. All having placed high in some recent tournaments (Sase got 2nd in some chinese tournament a while back afaik.) Idra did litterally nothing, and is even more BM.... Sase got 2nd in some chinese tournament a while back ? IdrA won IEM Guangzhou | ||
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nutnut
Norway29 Posts
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Adamcakez
Australia12 Posts
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Ace.Xile
United States286 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:02 Benjef wrote: Idra hasn't really.... Sase/Naniwa/Stephano/Sen would all be much more deserving of the place. All having placed high in some recent tournaments (Sase got 2nd in some chinese tournament a while back afaik.) Idra did litterally nothing, and is even more BM.... Naniwa beats Koreans on a much more regular basis that Idra does in other tournaments. For the record, Sase's done almost nothing this year, the most he's done is get into the top 20 of Code A. and top 3 at the ipl uk qual. Naniwa and Idra are borderline even on achievements, Naniwa just gets a shit ton of hype because his past not even month of performances. In terms of overall achievement i'd still put Idra over all of them if you consider everything he's done this year. | ||
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