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Please discuss IdrA and Sen in Code S January in this thread.
Alkro
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden88 Posts
December 14 2011 11:18 GMT
#901
So how exactley does Sen qualify for a code S invite?
Executor1
Profile Joined April 2011
1353 Posts
December 14 2011 11:18 GMT
#902
On December 14 2011 18:07 Olinimm wrote:
So it's not enough foreigners get a direct seed into up/downs now Idra get's a free Code S spot? I don't know I think there would have been much more fair ways of giving the spot but of course they just want to use Idra's popularity.

well considering idra never dropped down fromm code s its slightly more appropriate i think.
BoBiNoU
Profile Joined March 2011
France181 Posts
December 14 2011 11:18 GMT
#903
On December 14 2011 20:17 aebriol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 20:15 BoBiNoU wrote:
This is a strategy game and there is nothing worse IMO to ban players for doing a bad strat ( maybe for bad reasons ).
If you start with this, you will never know where they stop.

They banned him for forfeiting the game.

I don't understand why people are arguing it's 'a cheese' or 'a bad strat' ... he forfeited, and admitted it. He didn't even try to argue that it had a chance to win. It had 0% chance to win. He lost it in the quickest way possible except just typing gg and leaving.

You can argue that punishing him for forfeiting the game is wrong, but arguing that it's 'a bad strat' is just stupid.


What are your thoughts on 6pooling then ?
go m00
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37120 Posts
December 14 2011 11:18 GMT
#904
On December 14 2011 20:15 ballasdontcry wrote:
so who is the 2nd person that dropped out of code S to make room for Sen?


GOM already stated that GSL was already set to invite 2 players to Code S. SEn replaced Naniwa, IdrA was invited. As far as I know, this is correct, but I could be wrong.
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Dr.Dragoon
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1241 Posts
December 14 2011 11:19 GMT
#905
On December 14 2011 20:18 BoBiNoU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 20:17 aebriol wrote:
On December 14 2011 20:15 BoBiNoU wrote:
This is a strategy game and there is nothing worse IMO to ban players for doing a bad strat ( maybe for bad reasons ).
If you start with this, you will never know where they stop.

They banned him for forfeiting the game.

I don't understand why people are arguing it's 'a cheese' or 'a bad strat' ... he forfeited, and admitted it. He didn't even try to argue that it had a chance to win. It had 0% chance to win. He lost it in the quickest way possible except just typing gg and leaving.

You can argue that punishing him for forfeiting the game is wrong, but arguing that it's 'a bad strat' is just stupid.


What are your thoughts on 6pooling then ?

didn't someone get to gm by 6pooling?
~o~ I have returned
OMGKEI
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia590 Posts
December 14 2011 11:19 GMT
#906
Wow he lost his seed 100%
Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
December 14 2011 11:19 GMT
#907
On December 14 2011 20:18 Alkro wrote:
So how exactley does Sen qualify for a code S invite?


Blizzcon third place.
alot = a lot (TWO WORDS)
twndomn
Profile Joined September 2010
401 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 11:23:03
December 14 2011 11:20 GMT
#908
On December 14 2011 20:18 Alkro wrote:
So how exactley does Sen qualify for a code S invite?


Sen didn't qualify. He just replace Naniwa's spot.
If you actually look into Sen's accomplishment, defeating Naniwa at BlizzCon for 3rd place, NASL season 1 3rd place, NASL season 2 3rd place.

This has been confirmed by Artosis. Naniwa should just go back to Sweden since he can't participate, no point staying in KR.
"If MC wins this, his name would not be SK MC, it would be ST MC, ST for Saint, performing miracles." - Artosis.
Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
December 14 2011 11:21 GMT
#909
Artosis just announced on the GSL stream that Naniwas seed was revoked and that his spot will be given to Sen because he placed third at BlizzCon.

I like Sen's play, but this is a bit of an arbitrary qualification.
Such flammable little insects!
ScareCrow`
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada88 Posts
December 14 2011 11:21 GMT
#910
Artosis just said during the cast that Sen got his spot through Naniwa's removal and because he placed 3rd at blizzcon.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
December 14 2011 11:22 GMT
#911
On December 14 2011 18:25 Jibba wrote:
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On December 14 2011 18:22 Lysanias wrote:
Idra in code S would love it if he actualy played for it and earned it.

Did he not do that when he made it to the Ro16 of Code S?


Sorry for the late reply but yes he did, however he left on his own accord giving away his spot.
I do not feel it's fair for any other player that he get's his spot back almost a year later.

At times i like Idra's play and i love a foreigner in code S but it should be fought for and only then can we really feel proud as a foreign community.
Ace.Xile
Profile Joined June 2011
United States286 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 11:26:28
December 14 2011 11:22 GMT
#912
On December 14 2011 20:18 poorcloud wrote:
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On December 14 2011 20:07 Ace.Xile wrote:
On December 14 2011 20:05 MrSexington wrote:
On December 14 2011 20:03 BoBiNoU wrote:
GSL just banned probe rush ?

hope their next move will be to ban 6pool and 2rax


They banned a-move probe rush with no micro and a self-admission of "throwing the game."

(Not sure if I just got trolled.)

>_<



If you want to get serious about it. They essentially banned a player who refused to entertain when his main job was to compete. There was literally nothing to compete for between Naniwa and Nestea, the game was pointless, and GOM was pretty much just pissed that Naniwa wouldn't play along and act as an entertainer. Kind of mildly dumb.


Its not just about entertainment, but also about professionalism, sportsmanship and maintaining the integrity of the competition at all times. So what do you think about all the professional athletes who play on even in meaningless league games? You think its okay for them to just fuck the match up in the most obvious way? I assure you that most sports fans and professional bodies will have an equally huge reaction.

We want SC2 to be considered a legitimate sport, lets try and help enforce a higher level of professionalism.


I don't in anyway consider it to be beneficial to a sport that people expect 100% professionals to forgo competition for entertainment. When you start asking and expecting people to start entertaining it becomes a very weird line where your fighting between whether these players and in some cases athletes, are competitors or just someone whos out there to entertain, which seems almost anti professional competition. Professional competitors don't enter tournaments to cater to the audience, they do it to compete. Like pure entertainment is borderline a mockery of cut throat competition that happens to be entertaining. If entertainment was the point of competitive sc2, games like leenock vs naniwa (mlg prov final) and almost every GSL final would not happen because although they were at the peak of competition they were abysmally un-entertaining.
Lobo2me
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway1213 Posts
December 14 2011 11:22 GMT
#913
On December 14 2011 20:15 ballasdontcry wrote:
so who is the 2nd person that dropped out of code S to make room for Sen?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=279855

The format allows for 2 seeded players into Code S every season, along with 2 international seeds into up/down matches. The MLG winner (or highest finisher in top 3 without code S) would normally be one of the 2 seeded code S players, I don't know what they had planned for the other spot.

Naniwa was one of the Code S seeds through MLG, there was still another one that was unknown. So after removing Naniwa's seed, they had two Code S seeds to fill (without anyone in Code S leaving).
Bad manners are better than no manners at all.
Weemoed
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands741 Posts
December 14 2011 11:22 GMT
#914
On December 14 2011 20:20 twndomn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 20:18 Alkro wrote:
So how exactley does Sen qualify for a code S invite?


Sen didn't qualify. He just replace Naniwa's spot. This has been confirmed by Artosis. Naniwa should just go back to Sweden since he can't participate, no point staying in KR.


Stephano isn't going to participate in GSL either.
Bring me to space, and let me wander there forever
MrSexington
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1768 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 11:23:47
December 14 2011 11:23 GMT
#915
On December 14 2011 20:15 BoBiNoU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 20:05 MrSexington wrote:
On December 14 2011 20:03 BoBiNoU wrote:
GSL just banned probe rush ?

hope their next move will be to ban 6pool and 2rax


They banned a-move probe rush with no micro and a self-admission of "throwing the game."

(Not sure if I just got trolled.)

>_<


This is a strategy game and there is nothing worse IMO to ban players for doing a bad strat ( maybe for bad reasons ).
If they start with this, you will never know where they will stop.

What if they want games that last more than 12 min ? they will ban other strats that are shorter than this ?
Anyway it's their tournament so they do whatever they want. But it sends signal about it "being a joke tournament" ( meaning they re breaking general unspoken rules ).
If the player ( nani ) had deliberately said before/in-game/after ( i'm going to throw this game away ) then the sanction would have been justified.

Anyway it gives another shot at Idra and an interesting one at Sen.


A probe rush while trying to win the game versus a probe rush with no micro are very different things.

This wasn't a "bad strat" it was a non-strat.

Stop defending it.
lknockoutl
Profile Joined November 2010
Italy15 Posts
December 14 2011 11:23 GMT
#916
I really want IdrA to reach something like Ro8+ because I always get excited when he plays on big tourneys
subl1me
Profile Joined November 2011
Chile60 Posts
December 14 2011 11:23 GMT
#917
I think you all have to understand that the korean -asian- culture is different and the way that they see things is different.
Fatze
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1342 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 11:23:34
December 14 2011 11:23 GMT
#918
Welcome IdrA, bye Nani -.-
Comfort from bottles, cheers from beers the guitars are our weapons and we know how to kill!
Nate.F
Profile Joined April 2011
918 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 11:24:08
December 14 2011 11:23 GMT
#919
On December 14 2011 20:18 Alkro wrote:
So how exactley does Sen qualify for a code S invite?

he got 3rd at an event i think

edit: it was NASL S2.

i guess they chose him due to recent performance or smth
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
December 14 2011 11:24 GMT
#920
On December 14 2011 20:22 Weemoed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 20:20 twndomn wrote:
On December 14 2011 20:18 Alkro wrote:
So how exactley does Sen qualify for a code S invite?


Sen didn't qualify. He just replace Naniwa's spot. This has been confirmed by Artosis. Naniwa should just go back to Sweden since he can't participate, no point staying in KR.


Stephano isn't going to participate in GSL either.


Also he's not banned for life now is he ?
So he still can go for the GSL in March.
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