EPTSen.....why?
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
Sen.....why? | ||
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krews
United States1308 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:45 Goibon wrote: Ahh ok so it's official. Well, this GSL thing was fun while it lasted. it will continue to be the best and most prestigious tournament of starcraft 2. | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:46 Goldfish wrote: If there was a rule that stated it, it can be enforced and we all have to agree with that (though we need to know what the rule states specifically). However if there was no rule it would be "unprofessional" for GOMTV themselves to ban Naniwa on the spot like that instead of giving a warning. And it would be even more unprofessional to ban the player and then replace him by handing out some random invites for the spots players are supposed to qualify for. | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:46 nam nam wrote: There are other punishements you can do without removing his seed. like what? It's a tournament, there's not much they CAN do. | ||
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Hammer442
Australia749 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:46 phantaxx wrote: This is completely rediculous for Naniwa to be kicked out of Code s...He earned that spot by training 8+ hours a day for, and for succeeding in MLG, and all that is taken away by GOM for an insignificant moral issue...and judging from the tone of the announcement, that they are replacing him with a "professional" player rather than a "prize-hunter", it seems like their decision was affected simply by their dislike of him. Not giving someone their hard earned Code S spot because you don't like him has no place in professional competition...I really hope there is some sort of uproar and GOM reverts their action. Not likely, Koreans obviously hold their players up to a higher standard than can be comprehended by foreigners. It is their country, their league. | ||
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Derity
Germany2952 Posts
I agree with giving Naniwa a warning or a technical foul (reducing prize money or sth else). But disqualification for a thing which isn't even covered in the rules... no way. | ||
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Headnoob
Australia2108 Posts
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Swede
New Zealand853 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:45 Ace.Xile wrote: LOL, i'm guessing you've never seen any professional sport, because i can name literally thousands of professional athletes that make millions that act significantly worse than Nani did. Acting like a professional and having the title of professional are different. I'm surprised by the number of people who don't understand that. It's not hard. Besides, this thread isn't about Naniwa. There are already enough threads for that whole debacle. This is about IdrA getting Code S. Personally I believe he thoroughly deserves it. | ||
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Gh86
646 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:42 iky43210 wrote: they're not even the same scenario, and choya is banned from GSL for 3 seasons. If his team didn't do it, gom would have. Choya was only banned for the GSTL1, way back, you are thinking of Rain that was suspended for 3 seasons for dropping out of code S on the day of group selections itself. On topic, Naniwa deserved it as far as I am concerned. I'm just disappointed that code S slots are handed out for something that is not at least due to tournament results/partnerships like that. It sort of devalues the value of being a code S player. | ||
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TheBanana
Norway2183 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:27 TheHova wrote: If Naniwa is out, i'm cancelling my subscription. I can't let my money support decisions like that. My thoughts exactly. | ||
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OMGKEI
Australia590 Posts
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Torpedo.Vegas
United States1890 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:45 nam nam wrote: So what if they can? That doesn't mean we have to agree with it. They have a vested business interest to display as many high quality games as possible. They are using Naniwa as an example to set a precedent for future pros. I am sure there will be some clause or aspect in the 2012 sign-ups/contract things, that more or less highlight sportsmanship as a factor in maintaining competitive status. | ||
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baoluvboa
743 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:46 Goldfish wrote: If there was a rule that stated it, it can be enforced and we all have to agree with that (though we need to know what the rule states specifically). However if there was no rule it would be "unprofessional" for GOMTV themselves to ban Naniwa on the spot like that instead of giving a warning. Being a progamer in Korea carries a different set of values and professionalism since Brood War. Thus although the rule may not be state explicitly, they demanded a certain conduct from progamers in Korea in a major tournament. | ||
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Grettin
42417 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:48 Derity wrote: If all this Naniwa-stuff is true, GOM makes just only itself look bad. I agree with giving Naniwa a warning or a technical foul (reducing prize money or sth else). But disqualification for a thing which isn't even covered in the rules... no way. It's lose-lose situation either way. IMO this is very good comment about the situation. "No, this is common for Korea culture. They take respect and pride as much as Japanese. If they don't do this, there is no way they can explain to Korean audiences." | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:46 JoeSchmoe wrote: you mean like the same way they didn't agree with naniwa's unprofessional conduct? What does that have anything to do with what I wrote? People have the right to disagree, saying "GOM can enforce their rules however they please, give me a break" as the person I responded to is idiotic. Just because you have a rule doesn't mean you can't express your opinion about a ruling. | ||
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Termit
Sweden3466 Posts
GL IdrA & Sen. | ||
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Vandalman
United States66 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:45 Ace.Xile wrote: LOL, i'm guessing you've never seen any professional sport, because i can name literally thousands of professional athletes that make millions that act significantly worse than Nani did. I can tell you that very few professionals throw their game like Nani did. I can think of a few and guess what they all got severely punished. You cant throw a game like that in a professional environment. | ||
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iky43210
United States2099 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:47 mordk wrote: GOM have secured one buyer in me. Some will leave, some will join  I'm actually quite impressed by GOM's decisions and stick to their standard to not let people make a fool out of their tourney. They will get ticket from me next season | ||
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Ace.Xile
United States286 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:47 krews wrote: it will continue to be the best and most prestigious tournament of starcraft 2. Sweet, still won't change the fact that this will be one of the stupidest thing i've seen done in E-sports yet. Other sc2 pros have done things much worse, and ironically enough Naniwa get's the worst treatment for not giving it his all in a game that didn't mean shit. at all. | ||
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jjhchsc2
Korea (South)2393 Posts
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