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Please discuss IdrA and Sen in Code S January in this thread.
Ponchey
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden89 Posts
December 14 2011 09:41 GMT
#421
On December 14 2011 18:36 babo213 wrote:
I laugh at all these people posting they're boycotting GSL, we all know you'll end up watching anyway.


Uhm, no? With Naniwa in Code S, I would have bought a season ticket. Now, not so much. I don't expect that GOM will care that much about me not watching, but I still think it's a mistake on their part to ban him.
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
December 14 2011 09:42 GMT
#422
The difference between Major and Naniwa is that Naniwa is actually good.
Vardant
Profile Joined November 2010
Czech Republic620 Posts
December 14 2011 09:42 GMT
#423
On December 14 2011 18:39 Toppp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 18:35 Snowen wrote:
On December 14 2011 18:32 qke wrote:
Boycotting GOM / GSL it is.


Totally agree. We need to set up a petition or some kind of community rally to make some noise at least to how ridiculous GOM is acting in this. They have a terrible format with no rules stating probe rush isnt allowed, then ban a player who follows their shitty rules? Unbelievable really.


A petion for what? Are you fucking serious? GOM can enforce their rules however they please, give me a break.

Except there is no rule...retarded move from GOM.
wetmustard
Profile Joined July 2011
United States16 Posts
December 14 2011 09:42 GMT
#424
Did everyone forget that Idra won IEM- Guangzhou. Not the best tournament but one that could be considered major[image loading]
In this format explanation 2 code S seeds will be given out(most likely for foreign tournament results)
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
December 14 2011 09:42 GMT
#425
On December 14 2011 18:40 LimitSEA wrote:
IdrA and Sen both get spots so aside from Naniwa, so someone else dropped out?


There was always a second invite spot. People suggested it might go to the highest ranked non-Code S player in the Blizzard Cup, but they just gave it to Idra cause...you know, he's Idra.
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baoluvboa
Profile Joined December 2010
743 Posts
December 14 2011 09:42 GMT
#426
On December 14 2011 18:41 integral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 18:39 iky43210 wrote:
On December 14 2011 18:34 Jehct wrote:
GOM kicking Naniwa might be the worst response to this possible. If his 'offense' wasn't covered in the rules then it's a matter for the team to take up; this makes all parties look unprofessional and hurts the scene even more =/ No way I'll be buying another ticket if it's true.


no, what Gom did was the perfect response and I applaud them for taking such action. Starcraft is a professional game and we don't need attitudes and disrespect from people like Naniwa.

Just be glad he's not banned for life, as he would if he pulled the same stunt in any Esport in Korea aka sc1

this is wildly ignorant


This statement is ignorant since you don't explain your view/opinion at all.

His opinion is back up with legitimate viewpoints.
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
December 14 2011 09:42 GMT
#427
On December 14 2011 18:37 KeksX wrote:
So let me get this straight...

If you try to cheat/exploit the system to get into the GSL like Choya did, you basically have to apologize and eveything is fine.
If you matchfix in games that actually matters for GSL, you get a "temp ban" by your team, not by the league.
And if you proberush in a game that had no other purpose than to take place in a tournament not directly related to the GSL, you lose your whole progress in the GSL and get punished by the league in the hardest way possible

Sorry GOMTV, as much as I respect you, but I think you made the wrong decision.

@Bolded part: Choya was actually banned from the first GSTL, after his ladder shenanigans.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
December 14 2011 09:42 GMT
#428
I don't this, GSL said that they wanted code S to be for the best of the best, and I feel that it's really unfair to give a direct code S, i know sen and idra will attract a lot of viewers, but I feel like gsl is loosing some credibility by doing so.
On the other hand it's also sad that two code S players are dropping out...
Adr4melecH
Profile Joined March 2010
Thailand667 Posts
December 14 2011 09:42 GMT
#429
So,is it actually confirmed that nani is banned? I've never been a fan of naniwa and I don't like what he did yesterday but this is way too extreme on gom's part if they decided to kick him for his game vs nestea.
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 09:42:58
December 14 2011 09:42 GMT
#430
On December 14 2011 18:39 larzurus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 18:37 KeksX wrote:
So let me get this straight...

If you try to cheat/exploit the system to get into the GSL like Choya did, you basically have to apologize and eveything is fine.
If you matchfix in games that actually matters for GSL, you get a "temp ban" by your team, not by the league.
And if you proberush in a game that had no other purpose than to take place in a tournament not directly related to the GSL, you lose your whole progress in the GSL and get punished by the league in the hardest way possible

Sorry GOMTV, as much as I respect you, but I think you made the wrong decision.


This is exactly how I feel. I can't believe I'm actually legitimately upset over this but I am. Can't wait for Live on 3 tomorrow though for Scoots' take on it though


they're not even the same scenario, and choya is banned from GSL for 3 seasons. If his team didn't do it, gom would have.
meskito
Profile Joined December 2011
Portugal22 Posts
December 14 2011 09:42 GMT
#431
Gom giving away a code s stop to Idra is probably a marketing move to get more foreign views. It would make more sense if they made another qualifier spot.

If Naniwa is out, its sad for him. Really warsh from Gom but it isnt like he didnt deserve it.
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
December 14 2011 09:42 GMT
#432
On December 14 2011 18:36 babo213 wrote:
I laugh at all these people posting they're boycotting GSL, we all know you'll end up watching anyway.

I will watch the free stream yes. They can forget about me paying for anything.
Ace.Xile
Profile Joined June 2011
United States286 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 09:44:01
December 14 2011 09:43 GMT
#433
On December 14 2011 18:40 baoluvboa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 18:37 KeksX wrote:
So let me get this straight...

If you try to cheat/exploit the system to get into the GSL like Choya did, you basically have to apologize and eveything is fine.
If you matchfix in games that actually matters for GSL, you get a "temp ban" by your team, not by the league.
And if you proberush in a game that had no other purpose than to take place in a tournament not directly related to the GSL, you lose your whole progress in the GSL and get punished by the league in the hardest way possible

Sorry GOMTV, as much as I respect you, but I think you made the wrong decision.


Choya did it on ladder to get back to his real MMR fast. He also got banned from GSTL.
Coca's punishment was harsh and how do you know that GOM wouldn't have kicked him out if Slayers didnt?
And Naniwa's situation is a matter of respect, not rules. Nestea played for real, and other players would have too, foreigners or not including even Idra.


Don't even try to act like Nani not trying his hardest 1 game in an utterly pointless game deserves a ban from the GSL, when there were literally nothing bad done by Gom to choya and coca. The only bad thing that happened was choya was banned from GSTL which is almost nothing compared to a ban from GSL
eot
Profile Joined April 2011
146 Posts
December 14 2011 09:43 GMT
#434
Haha, wow
I thought what Naniwa did was dickish but taking away his spot is equally dickish
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37107 Posts
December 14 2011 09:43 GMT
#435
On December 14 2011 18:41 andeh wrote:
I just feel terrible for quantic, holy crap

naniwa turning into major


Naniwa doesn't have 10+ aliases
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KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 09:43:48
December 14 2011 09:43 GMT
#436
On December 14 2011 18:40 baoluvboa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 18:37 KeksX wrote:
So let me get this straight...

If you try to cheat/exploit the system to get into the GSL like Choya did, you basically have to apologize and eveything is fine.
If you matchfix in games that actually matters for GSL, you get a "temp ban" by your team, not by the league.
And if you proberush in a game that had no other purpose than to take place in a tournament not directly related to the GSL, you lose your whole progress in the GSL and get punished by the league in the hardest way possible

Sorry GOMTV, as much as I respect you, but I think you made the wrong decision.


Choya did it on ladder to get back to his real MMR fast. He also got banned from GSTL.
Coca's punishment was harsh and how do you know that GOM wouldn't have kicked him out if Slayers didnt?
And Naniwa's situation is a matter of respect, not rules. Nestea played for real, and other players would have too, foreigners or not including even Idra.


No, you're misinformed about Choya. To qualify for GSL qualifiers, you had to get a certain amount of ladder points(KR ladder). Choya figured out it is more effective to just mass games and get about a 50% winratio which was achieved by playing rock paper scissors instead of playing real games.

(And also @NuclearJudas):
Okay, I forgot the GSTL thing, but being banned from the GSTL is not that big of a deal compared to losing your Code S spot imho.

Coca's punishment was harsh because he actually DID serious matchfixing there.

And you are absolutely correct about Naniwa's situation: It's a matter of respect. People have been disrespectful all the time, why Naniwa is treated in such a way is beyond me.
Azhrei16
Profile Joined August 2011
United States284 Posts
December 14 2011 09:43 GMT
#437
Should really wait for an official statement from GOM before cursing their name for the next 100 pages of this thread. Probably has nothing to do with Naniwa and everyone here is overreacting (as usual).
Designakrobat
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany558 Posts
December 14 2011 09:43 GMT
#438
Smart move by gom to give idra a free entry. their subscriptions will go through the roof with him participating...
Lets face it, he is the foreign player that attracts the most attention of all, that includes fans who are willing to pay for good quality streamed tournament games....ringing a bell here?
"Immortal/Roach is pretty good against Stalkers" -IdrA
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
December 14 2011 09:43 GMT
#439
On December 14 2011 18:41 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 18:39 Arceus wrote:
On December 14 2011 18:33 Ponchey wrote:
I'm not against Idra getting a free code S seed, but if this is actually meaning Naniwa lost his EARNED seed, then GomTV just lost a viewer, like... forever.

GOM may lose a lots of Korean viewers and at least one foreigner viewer in me if they dont do anything about naniwa

That is ridiculous and you know it.


Actually from what I gathered Koreans are really pist at Naniwa for what he did.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 14 2011 09:43 GMT
#440
Rule or not, there's obvious shit you shouldn't do like MAKE GOM LOOK BAD ON TV.

What if another player shit talks or is disrespectful to someone from GOM or just another player? You think they'd stand by that whether a rule is in place or not? He spit on the organization and was disrespectful, and he got kicked out. It's called having common decency.
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