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eSahara adds female player MaddeLisk! - Page 2
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archonOOid
1983 Posts
I won't because I'm a class act. LOL | ||
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Railgan
Switzerland1507 Posts
300 points pretty medicore mostly added because of her gender and not her skills but whatever goodluck | ||
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Zandar
Netherlands1541 Posts
 Hope she does well, this community needs more female gamers | ||
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masterbreti
Korea (South)2711 Posts
anyways. Maybe we will see some sort of resurgence in women sc2 players. Though once the Koreans get notice of this. Its over | ||
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Sawofhackness
Afghanistan183 Posts
On December 14 2011 01:44 GreEny K wrote: She's a Masters Zerg who just joined a pro team... I think she'll be good in a few months, that's the benefit of having good teammates. I don't think they picked her because they think she has a chance at winning GSL I'm going with looks and mascot here too. | ||
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tztztz
Germany314 Posts
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
Right now the number of females who take playing / improving very seriously is probably pretty low, so the field for female gamers is wide-open for someone to take it. | ||
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Grovbolle
Denmark3807 Posts
*Puts on sunglasses* Picked ud a pretty hot chick.... YEAH!!!!!!!!!!! Edit: No disrespect, she could probably own me from now till eternity since I suck at 1v1 :D | ||
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lessQQmorePEWPEW
Jamaica921 Posts
slayers eve and startale girl... dont see them anywhere anymore! There needs to be some sort of marketing pull for these girls amiright? | ||
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JOJOsc2news
3000 Posts
I think that what is essential positive discrimination or how some people word it 'token girls' is damaging. I think this in fact promotes and reinforces the already rather strong sexism in the scene. Some ones gender should not even be considered... I would not expect to recieve an email at work saying 'Publicity department has a new member of staff (she is a girl)' because that would be ridiculous. I just think if she is a really talented player who does well in tournaments etc her gender is neither important or relevant. However if she is bad (as some people here are suggesting) then putting her on the team is a publicity stunt and is damaging. I cringed when I saw the thread title "girl player". (it's sexist) | ||
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GizmoPT
Portugal3040 Posts
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MichaelEU
Netherlands816 Posts
On December 14 2011 01:45 Sclol wrote: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/889705/1/MaddeLisk/ladder/60675#current-rank 300 points pretty medicore mostly added because of her gender and not her skills but whatever goodluck If you look at her match history, you'll see a ton of custom games. | ||
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Catatonic
United States699 Posts
On December 14 2011 01:43 MonkeyMaan wrote: According to her sc2ranks profile, she is low masters with a negative win/loss ratio, which doesn't really bode well in the first place. Calling her a team mascot really isn't that much off from the truth in my opinion. The only other use for her that I can see is if girls-only league is going to be created in which case picking up a female player is a good idea. But I highly doubt it. An being on a pro team with really good practice partners wont help her improve at all which in turn would reverse that negitive win/loss ratio at all? I think you're assuming quite alot here man cause it does take a good amount of skill to get into masters/gm league (unless you cheese the whole way which I havnt seen or heard of too much) so the definate raw skills are likely there. She might just need some help smoothing out the rough edges that are potentially losing her games. Which being on a team has the very high chance of doing thus in turn making her a far better player then she was entering into the team. So really all iv gotta say is just dont assume anything really cause things have a good chance of changing rather drastically. | ||
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Otolia
France5805 Posts
Well it's time to post this : ![[image loading]](http://satwcomic.com/art/Women-s-Rights.jpg) Credits go to salle[] & satwcomic. User was warned for this post | ||
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Gurafity
Luxembourg20 Posts
To people who don't know eSahara, it's a big french team with great players like Naama, Verdi and Satiini | ||
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Kevan
Sweden2303 Posts
On December 14 2011 01:49 Grovbolle wrote: I guess you could say that eSahara *Puts on sunglasses* Picked ud a pretty hot chick.... YEAH!!!!!!!!!!! Edit: No disrespect, she could probably own me from now till eternity since I suck at 1v1 :D I guess you could say that *Puts on sunglasses* it was a dry joke..... YEAH!!! Edit: Good luck to Madde | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
Girl gets/does something eSports related. Bunch of guys bring up "it's only because she is an attractive female." Bunch of guys defend her by showing that other people are worse, do worse or she is legit. Several pages of this goes back and forth. If we could just be happy for her and the opportunity it'd be great. Unrealistic but great. "BUT INCONTROL, A MORE DESERVING MALE COULD HAVE GOTTEN THAT SPOT! It isn't right that she gets stuff because she is a girl!" I then make the argument about marketing, the real world blah blah blah... someday maybe. | ||
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Saiton
Sweden467 Posts
Congrats and i hope she does eSahara justice! On December 14 2011 02:02 Cyro wrote: Its not about that iNcontroL, i am just confused as to why they write "eSahara adds girl player" as the thread title, and have a picture like that in the OP. It is degrading female players, not helping them. Quoting posts that are after mine ftw. How is it in any way degrading to post a picture of the person you just added to your team? I can promise you, look up another similar thread for another team and you'll definitely see a picture. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20309 Posts
On December 14 2011 01:59 iNcontroL wrote: always the same on TL Girl gets/does something eSports related. Bunch of guys bring up "it's only because she is an attractive female." Bunch of guys defend her by showing that other people are worse, do worse or she is legit. Several pages of this goes back and forth. If we could just be happy for her and the opportunity it'd be great. Unrealistic but great. "BUT INCONTROL, A MORE DESERVING MALE COULD HAVE GOTTEN THAT SPOT! It isn't right that she gets stuff because she is a girl!" I then make the argument about marketing, the real world blah blah blah... someday maybe. Its not about that iNcontroL, i am just confused as to why they write "eSahara adds girl player" as the thread title, and have a picture like that in the OP. It is degrading female players, not helping them. | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
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