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Naniwa Interview - Blizzard Cup Group B - Page 11

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Ergho
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden13 Posts
December 13 2011 15:30 GMT
#201
Don't see why people are going to whine wether he worker rushes or what ever... If he had 4-gated it's just the same thing but taking a little more time... But you'd still whine if he did that... So whats the point of bothering with the whining people anyway...
iG.Forever
Profile Joined February 2004
Korea (South)148 Posts
December 13 2011 15:30 GMT
#202
thats why hes not goin to get invited to many tournaments becuz if he has no chance to win, hes gonna throw the game no matter if the opponent has a chance to advance or not.
IU <3
Fafel
Profile Joined August 2011
Poland3 Posts
December 13 2011 15:31 GMT
#203
Shame that he wasn't more badass and did mentioned 4gate, success with it and gg before Nestea. Still probe rush - badassness 8/10. Naniwa fighting!
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
December 13 2011 15:31 GMT
#204
On December 14 2011 00:17 SDream wrote:
Show nested quote +
People are just hating because it's me who did it.


Naniwa, why do you think people hate on you? It's a fact, they hate on you. But I'd like you to think about the reasons. It's something you do or it's some random hating? It's not random man, think your acts.


There are more then enough similar cases by different players throwing matches that did actually matter and no other time has the community blown up similarly to this time. Who remembers FXOz proxy-2 gating half heartedly game 4 on daybreak in the last GSL Code A finals, whilst being 3 games down. It was pretty obvious that Oz was mentally spent and basically admitted defeat and did some half-assed cheese to just get the series over with. It was a terrible game for the spectators. Nobody ever talked about it, or even remembers it, yet it was for a Code S seed and a whole bunch of money. Was that wrong by Oz? No, i don't think so. Starcraft 2 is primarily a mental game and if you are mentally spent then you will only end up embarassing yourself in a long game. Trying to avoid this is only natural.

So why is this such a big deal then?I think it's fair to say that people just love to hate on NaNi, for whatever stupid reason that may be. Double standards exist in every community i guess.
Eurekastreet
Profile Joined November 2010
1308 Posts
December 13 2011 15:32 GMT
#205
On December 14 2011 00:15 Lillpapps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 00:13 ReboundEU wrote:
http://twitter.com/#!/idrajit/status/146608080761790464

Nuff said! What was the point of having a match between 2 players who were already out in the first place?

To earn money from the sponsors? To be able to profit from hosting a tournament. To be able to host more tournaments in the future.


Can't wait for the "He is killing e-sports" bit.
"2 cannons, it's not one cannons" - White-Ra
haegN
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway533 Posts
December 13 2011 15:32 GMT
#206
I agree, people are making a big deal out of everything that has to do with Naniwa, I am getting pretty tired of the bias..

Well, shut out the haters nani, a lot of people respect you for who you are, and dont get too far down because of a bad day.. Keep on practising - good days will come

None can give you skills, ubermicro, wins or anything. If you are man - you take it!
MistraL958
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Switzerland100 Posts
December 13 2011 15:32 GMT
#207
he could have pretended he cares even if he didn't. That's all. Understandable mindset tho... and also true that all this hate towards Naniwa is a huge biais when judging such behaviour... but well...
MooLen
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany501 Posts
December 13 2011 15:32 GMT
#208
Sounds legit.
Samahoj
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden109 Posts
December 13 2011 15:33 GMT
#209
On December 13 2011 23:55 Smile[PaiN] wrote:
Dissapointed in Naniwa.

i'm not, go naniwa! see how pointless that was?
MORROW, NANIWA, SASE, THORZAIN, SORTOF | NTH, PULSE, LGD.INT
DBHErazor
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden181 Posts
December 13 2011 15:33 GMT
#210
Naniwa is a boss, tellin it like it is to this pompous arselicking community. Get a grip, it´s just 1 pointless game. Who gives a f*ck?

User was temp banned for this post.
Madder
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia427 Posts
December 13 2011 15:33 GMT
#211
On December 14 2011 00:30 iG.Forever wrote:
thats why hes not goin to get invited to many tournaments becuz if he has no chance to win, hes gonna throw the game no matter if the opponent has a chance to advance or not.

You deserve a temp ban for that post. Have you not been following the shitstorm carefully, at all?
iG.Forever
Profile Joined February 2004
Korea (South)148 Posts
December 13 2011 15:33 GMT
#212
maybe... just maybe its becuz probe rush = no chance in hell to win, whereas at least some cheese = some % of win
IU <3
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
December 13 2011 15:33 GMT
#213
On December 14 2011 00:33 DBHErazor wrote:
Naniwa is a boss, tellin it like it is to this pompous arselicking community. Get a grip, it´s just 1 pointless game. Who gives a f*ck?

coca vs byun was 1 pointless game.

many people gave many fucks. why should naniwa be any different?
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
Coca Cola Classic
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
266 Posts
December 13 2011 15:34 GMT
#214
On December 14 2011 00:11 Jeramus wrote:
I don't understand the comparisons to professional sports. I have seen plenty of games near the end of a season with no playoff implications where a team will play their B team players. No one cares because the games don't matter. I think if Naniwa wanted to forfeit they should have let him. I guess that option wasn't available before the game so he basically forfeited in the game.


B team players playing can be akin to trying out a new build, new unit combinations. It doesn't signify flat out not trying.
안녕하세요~~
Cocacooh
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1510 Posts
December 13 2011 15:34 GMT
#215
On December 14 2011 00:30 iG.Forever wrote:
thats why hes not goin to get invited to many tournaments becuz if he has no chance to win, hes gonna throw the game no matter if the opponent has a chance to advance or not.

I don't think thats true, if nestea could advance by winning against nani I'm pretty sure he would try to crush him.
Mackguy
Profile Joined May 2011
France40 Posts
December 13 2011 15:34 GMT
#216
Naniwa has disrespected Nestea, several times :

during MLG,
during the pre interview of blizzard cup
and now by throwing the game...

taking a game from nestea would have stayed, it should be motivation only to face the zerg god. Hell, anyone would be honored to play him... It reminds me of NASL and Painuser letting Boxer wait forever, and never showed up.

Respect for your opponent, teams, sponsors, fans and viewers, that's all we ask.

its not like it was a BO7...
Day did Not tell me to do it, but I do it anyway
JimPanzer
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany339 Posts
December 13 2011 15:34 GMT
#217
"People are just hating because it's me who did it."

well, yes. but why is that so? he just managed to annoy alot of people in the past, he shouldn't be too astonished to see some rage...
haegN
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway533 Posts
December 13 2011 15:35 GMT
#218
On December 14 2011 00:32 Eurekastreet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 00:15 Lillpapps wrote:
On December 14 2011 00:13 ReboundEU wrote:
http://twitter.com/#!/idrajit/status/146608080761790464

Nuff said! What was the point of having a match between 2 players who were already out in the first place?

To earn money from the sponsors? To be able to profit from hosting a tournament. To be able to host more tournaments in the future.


Can't wait for the "He is killing e-sports" bit.


I have to agree with Idra here, meaningsless matches should not be played - Showmatches should be seperated from real tournament matches...

And the koreans should get off their high horses.. seems like they dont like the fact that Naniwa beat their best players in MLG.
None can give you skills, ubermicro, wins or anything. If you are man - you take it!
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
December 13 2011 15:35 GMT
#219
I am personnally completely fine with him forfeiting that game.

However, what I cannot understand is that Naniwa didnt predicted what would happen if he did that. It's so obvious that many people would get very upset about it. He really lacks social skills.
FluXxxx
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany57 Posts
December 13 2011 15:35 GMT
#220
it actually was an awesome opportunity to show that he can pull off crazy strats or whatever that he is not as bm as people think
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