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The first interview
+ Show Spoiler +MVP.DRG![[image loading]](http://file.thisisgame.com/board/files/0/img/20111212214201_a69cf943.jpg) Q: You advanced into the semi-finals with the first place in the group. I feel really really good. I will be able to get into the finals if I win a series in the semi-finals. I wanted to play in the finals in a big event and I finally got my chance. I won't miss-out on it and will get into the finals. Q : You turned the game around against MVP and won. (As he gets surprised) A come back? Was I really that behind? I didn't think I was behind at all throughout the whole game. I didn't lose anything from the Hellion rush. I lost my third hatchery but I killed all his hellions and also killed a command centre, from that point I thought I couldn't lose. Q : You could have also taken a game against Stephano I over-extended too much. I expected him to take a hatchery at the natural and used a build against it. I spent too many Zerglings trying to destroy his Spine Crawlers and that made me lose. Q : How do you feel about Stephano after playing against him? I think he is a good player but his style is rather simple. His opponent can easily make a counter build-order against him. If players face Stephano bit more and take time to analyse his style, he should be a comfortable opponent. But his mechanics are solid. Q : In the last game, if you would win you would come out as the first but if you lost you would be disqualified. When I found about that before the game, I started a mind-game to MC. But MC didn't fall for any of that and didn't intend to lose at all. He played so hard I thought I was going to lose. I was thinking about getting him a nice dinner but that was a mistake. Q : Who do you think your opponent would be? You could meet MC again. I think Nestea and Leenock should come out from Group B as the 1st and 2nd. Whoever it might be, whether it's MC or ZvZ it will be a hard game. I wish to play a Terran player but the map pools disfavour Terrans so I doubt it. Q : You really haven't made made a clear result from GSL except for winning IEM. That is why this is such a good opportunity. I want this tournament to be my turning point so I can happily spend the new years. Many people tells me that I am a bubble that I am overrated and I am now horrible against both Terran and Protoss. I want to kick away all these perceptions by winning this tournament. Q : Any last words? I thank my team-mates who helped me to practice. Now I have a chance I will show my fans that I can also get into the finals. As for the last words.. I have seen the winners prediction poll on Teamliquid, I thought I would be at least in the mid-way but only 2% voted for me. I was shocked. I got more determined to get win the tournament after looking at the poll. So keep an out eye.
The second interview
+ Show Spoiler +IMMvp![[image loading]](http://file.thisisgame.com/board/files/0/img/20111212210442_535f3667.jpg) Q : How do you feel about advancing into the next round? To be honest, my goal that I set up on the way to the studio was 3rd placement. I couldn't practice much and manage my conditions well enough. But I am happy that I am still in. I will try my best to manage my condition to show better games. Q : You played four games today. I know they were all tough but which one was the toughest? There weren't games that were too hard because all games were finished relatively early. But I feel pity about losing to DRG. I had a chance to win but I lost my concentration as the game shifted to the late game phase. I got impatient and went for a rush when I shouldn't. Losing a game that I could possibly win is always pitiful. Q : How are you physically and mentally right now? My stamina actually improved as I travel to many tournaments. It's not as tiring as before. But I still can't manage my concentration well enough, I need to figure out how I can control my concentration level. Q : There was Media Day at 1PM. You could've practised bit more if it wasn't for that. When I heard about Media Day, I thought it was going to be tough. But WCG and Blizzcup are two separate events. It wouldn't make any sense if I ranted about a tournament process. But I might have made a compliant if they were organized by the same organization. But Media Day is the opportunity to meet all other players and greet them so I gladly participated. Q : You won total six times from various tournaments in 2011. You could win another tournament and end 2011. Blizzcup is the one of the big tournaments but the championship from Blizzcup is most meaningful title. The title is the best player of 2011 and I really want that. I really want to win, I also recently got a hobby of collecting trophies and having another one in my collection would make me happy. Q : The tournament gathered around players who got a championship from other tournaments. Did this tournament feel any different to you? Playing in different leagues makes players aware of play styles of other players. Even today, there were builds intending to finish the game early and sniping build orders could be seen. Players who won a tournament played many games and they are well aware of other players' style. You can't be relaxed in this tournament. Q : Who would you want to avoid before the finals? Of course I want to avoid Nestea. He is in the same team so I want to avoid him as much as possible. This means that I want to see him in the finals with me. Q : How do you feel about Stephano? After the first game was over, I watched his game. It was against Hero and I thought he was very good. I was even emotionally touched with his play. If he participates in a GSL Code A qualifier, I am sure he has a really high chance of getting into Code S. As far as I know he is the first player who used Infestor build, playing against him did tell me that he has a distinctive style. He has got a good game sense with his own unique style. Q : Anything else that you want to add on? There are other things than a championship that I can also earn from the winning. I have won 99 games in my record so far and winning another game will give me 100 victories. I also will exceed 300,000,000 KRW for the prize money. But I also want the title of the best player of 2011. I will prepare well for my other games and will try to win. Coaching KANG (Dong-Hoon KANG) is exhausted as he came down to Busan with me. I hope he gets a good rest once Blizzcup is over. Also it was his wedding anniversary yesterday which I bless the couple for. I thank my mum,dad and sister who always cheer for me even from home. I also thank sponsors for supporting the team. While I was in Busan, My girlfriend helped me to win against Stephano, well she recorded Stephano's stream with her phone and sent it to me (laughs)
The third interview + Show Spoiler +oGsMC![[image loading]](http://file.thisisgame.com/board/files/0/img/20111212213321_129e61da.jpg) Q : You advance into the next rounds with the third placement. How do you feel? When MVP won the last game and it was determined already, I stopped being nervous. But I also couldn't concentrate well and lost a game to DRG. Q : I bet advancing as a third player is not what you were aiming for? I wanted to be the first from the group. 2nd and 3rd are the same in my opinion. When I knew that there was no way I could be the first in the group I was bit disappointed. But I still didn't want to lose but knowing that I am ready advancing made me wanting to end the game quickly. I think I was very impatient. Q : Do you find Blizzcup different from other tournaments? It's like being in GSL up/down matches (laughs). Because it is BO1 and the full-league format. I personally find the format bit disappointing. Strong players getting knocked out easily doesn't seem to be a good thing. I think they should have made it dual-elimination format. Q : Unfortunately, you won against players who live in the same team house. When I was coming into the studio with Hero we were telling each other 'Please let's not meet each other with 1L written on our names'. I feel bad. But we are on a different team even though we live in the same house (laughs). I am representing oGs and I wish to win. In the rounds of 6, I want to face MMA on the Calm before the storms. Q : Are you saying you want to meet MMA as your next opponent? Well, not MMA necessarily but a Terran player. I want to avoid Naniwa. One less Protoss in the tournament would be sad for the race. Well, I don't really care if Naniwa gets knocked out but if he advances, I hope he is not in the second in his group. Q : What do you think about the possibility of winning for you? If I make into the finals and face MVP, it will be very tough. I am confident about getting into the finals though. I also got more confidence in PvZ so meeting DRG in the semi-finals shouldn't be a problem. Q : What is the meaning of Blizzcup to you? Fireworks of resurrection? I try not to find the tournament too burdensome but when I actually started to play in games I couldn't do that well. I was very nervous today. Q : Any last words? My girlfriend brought me an energy drink so I want to thank her. Hero got knocked out after losing four times and I hope he isn't too upset about it, I hope he does well in up/down matches. Stephano might misunderstood from the last game but I NEVER lost on purpose because DRG is Korea. I was not nervous at all and lost focus too much. I really didn't want to lose at all so I hope he doesn't misunderstand that game if he did. I haven't been into the finals for a long time. I hope I can get into the finals in Blizzcup and communicate with many fans at the finals.
Original articles can be found: http://www.thisisgame.com/board/list.php?category=13439
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I have seen the winners prediction poll on Teamliquid, I thought I would be at least in the mid-way but only 2% voted for me. I was shocked. I got more determined to get win the tournament after looking at the poll. So keep an out eye.
Shame on you teamliquid.
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Nice one, DRG looking strong, where can I find that winner prediction thing btw :o? If anyone could PM me it'd be awesome!
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On December 12 2011 22:17 sereniity wrote: Nice one, DRG looking strong, where can I find that winner prediction thing btw :o? If anyone could PM me it'd be awesome!
Check the homepage below the "Store" box.
DRG staying strong. Hilarious reaction to the MVP game. xD
Edit: Or click Blizzard Cup Poll
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Wait, how did DRG find a poll and I can't find it? ;o
Or was it the poll in the LR thread?
Where ARE the polls anyway? I don't see them on the sidebar atm.
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On December 12 2011 22:19 Talin wrote: Wait, how did DRG find a poll and I can't find it? ;o
Or was it the poll in the LR thread?
Where ARE the polls anyway? I don't see them on the sidebar atm.
I dont think there has been any polls.
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Q : How do you feel about Stephano after playing against him?
I think he is a good player but his style is rather simple. His opponent can easily make a counter build-order against him. If players face Stephano bit more and take time to analyse his style, he should be a comfortable opponent. But his mechanics are solid.
sums it up i think. i think drg weakest is zvz by far.
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On December 12 2011 22:19 Talin wrote: Wait, how did DRG find a poll and I can't find it? ;o
Or was it the poll in the LR thread?
Where ARE the polls anyway? I don't see them on the sidebar atm.
I can't find them either... 
Looks like DRG is a better TLer than I am.
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DRG losing to other, nice.
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Q : In the last game, if you would win you would come out as the first but if you lost you would be disqualified.
When I found about that before the game, I started a mind-game to MC. But MC didn't fall for any of that and didn't intend to lose at all. He played so hard I thought I was going to lose. I was thinking about getting him a nice dinner but that was a mistake.
Mabye it is poor phrasing, but it sounds like he tried to get MC to loose on purpose before the game and buy him a dinner afterwards? Probably not, but still glad MC put up a good fight!
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On December 12 2011 22:31 SarcasmMonster wrote:DRG losing to other, nice.
Too much bias in that poll XD
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The second interview is now updated. The final interview is coming.
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dam Mvp GF > Stephano haha
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On December 12 2011 22:14 CryingPoo wrote:
Q : You won total six times from various tournaments in 2011. You could win another tournament and end 2011. Blizzcup is the one of the big tournaments but the championship from Blizzcup is most meaningful title. The title is the best player of 2011 and I really want that. I really want to win, I also recently got a hobby of collecting trophies and having another one in my collection would make me happy.
The IM house is going to need a bigger trophy cabinet.
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On December 12 2011 22:41 parazice wrote: dam Mvp GF > Stephano haha LOL
I had a feeling something like that was gonna happen. Didn't expect it to be his gf
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All fully updated but haven't proof read them so pardon me if there are any spelling errors.
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On December 12 2011 22:26 NMx.StyX wrote: Q : How do you feel about Stephano after playing against him?
I think he is a good player but his style is rather simple. His opponent can easily make a counter build-order against him. If players face Stephano bit more and take time to analyse his style, he should be a comfortable opponent. But his mechanics are solid.
sums it up i think. i think drg weakest is zvz by far.
Look what MVP said about Stephano, balances it out though dont you think?
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Damn, great interviews! Thanks for the interviews!
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oh stephano. its fun your in korean ladder though
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I like the 'agreement' between DRG and MVP on Stephano's style
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I will tweet to him that ; )
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I saw it ! Dont worry Thx Mattchew that believe me LOL
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On December 12 2011 23:04 DRGpros wrote:I saw it ! Dont worry Thx Mattchew that believe me LOL 
와우 : ) 칼답장 ! 축하드려요 ! 화이팅 ! (Wow, thats a fast reply! congrats ! Fighting!)
DRG so mannered <3
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^That is seriously cool! Now DRG has me cheering for him too XD
(sorry leenock and nestea)
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On December 12 2011 23:04 DRGpros wrote:I saw it ! Dont worry Thx Mattchew that believe me LOL  I expected DRG to make it 1st too LOL
Very good ZvP and ZvT, and good ZvZ. 2 more to go!! DRG deserves a big win this year
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"I also recently got a hobby of collecting trophies and having another one in my collection would make me happy." MVP
Haha. MVP winning for the sake of collecting trophies as a hobbie.
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I have seen the winners prediction poll on Teamliquid, I thought I would be at least in the mid-way but only 2% voted for me. I was shocked. I got more determined to get win the tournament after looking at the poll.
Had not voted previous to this, but now I did. I shall be the 2%.
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I think it's cool that MVP's girlfriend helped him by recording stephano's stream, it's seriously not safe for players with distinctive playstyles to stream if they don't want to be studied to death.
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On December 12 2011 23:13 ladyumbra wrote: I think it's cool that MVP's girlfriend helped him by recording stephano's stream, it's seriously not safe for players with distinctive playstyles to stream if they don't want to be studied to death.
True, but sooner or later you will be analyzed. Personally, I think sooner is better because all professional players will need a wide variety of styles if they want to maintain dominance in the scene. That's one of the main things people always compliment MVP on.
"I NEVER lost on purpose because DRG is Korea. I was not nervous at all and lost focus too much. I really didn't want to lose at all so I hope he doesn't misunderstand that game if he did. I haven't been into the finals for a long time. I hope I can get into the finals in Blizzcup and communicate with many fans at the finals."
Shame on you Team Liquid for even suggesting that MC lost on purpose to DRG. I believe MC truly meant what he said. He's always been there for the foreign players and fans so it's disgusting how quickly some people can snub him and accuse him cheating for the sake of national pride.
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On December 12 2011 23:13 ladyumbra wrote: I think it's cool that MVP's girlfriend helped him by recording stephano's stream, it's seriously not safe for players with distinctive playstyles to stream if they don't want to be studied to death. Yeah, forgg better watch out as he's been using the same distinctive builds. If he uses them in GSL I would seriously be like wtf were you thinking
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Happy to see MVP got so high regards of Stephano however im still gonna support Nestea:D
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On December 12 2011 23:16 MayorITC wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 23:13 ladyumbra wrote: I think it's cool that MVP's girlfriend helped him by recording stephano's stream, it's seriously not safe for players with distinctive playstyles to stream if they don't want to be studied to death. True, but sooner or later you will be analyzed. Personally, I think sooner is better because all professional players will need a wide variety of styles if they want to maintain dominance in the scene. That's one of the main things people always compliment MVP on. "I NEVER lost on purpose because DRG is Korea. I was not nervous at all and lost focus too much. I really didn't want to lose at all so I hope he doesn't misunderstand that game if he did. I haven't been into the finals for a long time. I hope I can get into the finals in Blizzcup and communicate with many fans at the finals." Shame on you Team Liquid for even suggesting that MC lost on purpose to DRG. I believe MC truly meant what he said. He's always been there for the foreign players and fans so it's disgusting how quickly some people can snub him and accuse him cheating for the sake of national pride.
I don't think anyone was openly accusing MC of throwing the game... it was more just despair that a 3rd party's outcome is decided by a match between two unrelated players
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While I was in Busan, My girlfriend helped me to win against Stephano, well she recorded Stephano's stream with her phone and sent it to me (laughs)
This is both awesome and hilarious haha.
Also a good reason people don't stream and play a distinctive style almost exclusively in one match up.
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On December 12 2011 23:22 bbm wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 23:16 MayorITC wrote:On December 12 2011 23:13 ladyumbra wrote: I think it's cool that MVP's girlfriend helped him by recording stephano's stream, it's seriously not safe for players with distinctive playstyles to stream if they don't want to be studied to death. True, but sooner or later you will be analyzed. Personally, I think sooner is better because all professional players will need a wide variety of styles if they want to maintain dominance in the scene. That's one of the main things people always compliment MVP on. "I NEVER lost on purpose because DRG is Korea. I was not nervous at all and lost focus too much. I really didn't want to lose at all so I hope he doesn't misunderstand that game if he did. I haven't been into the finals for a long time. I hope I can get into the finals in Blizzcup and communicate with many fans at the finals." Shame on you Team Liquid for even suggesting that MC lost on purpose to DRG. I believe MC truly meant what he said. He's always been there for the foreign players and fans so it's disgusting how quickly some people can snub him and accuse him cheating for the sake of national pride. I don't think anyone was openly accusing MC of throwing the game... it was more just despair that a 3rd party's outcome is decided by a match between two unrelated players
On December 12 2011 20:47 ambrosiaa wrote: im sure mc will let drg win so that the top 3 will be koreans.
On December 12 2011 20:47 BBMorti wrote: Of course MC will lose no matter what now, Koreans will help each others go on tbh.
On December 12 2011 20:56 asdads wrote: MC hates stephano imo he will purposely lose so another korean makes it through. Thats why stephano is so tense. IMO.
On December 12 2011 21:18 NHY wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 21:15 Goibon wrote:On December 12 2011 21:14 MrCash wrote: Not sure why, but the last game felt like watching a "pro-wrestling" match. I know what you mean. Hard to explain it though. Not hard to explain. You two think MC threw that game on purpose. Nice try.
On December 12 2011 21:20 Holdinga wrote: Dont hate on MC for losing the match, no Korean will F!@# over another Korean in these cases, it is absolutely normal. hate on the rules. It shouldnt have been head to head record, there should have been a final tie breaker, so loser plays versus Stephano
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"Blizzcup Group A Winners" would be a better title, I missed the cup today and I thought it was a 1-day tournament after seeing the title. I was sad until I realized it wasn't...
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On December 12 2011 22:17 Itsmedudeman wrote: I have seen the winners prediction poll on Teamliquid, I thought I would be at least in the mid-way but only 2% voted for me. I was shocked. I got more determined to get win the tournament after looking at the poll. So keep an out eye.
Shame on you teamliquid.
Sorry, I voted for you now DRG :p, you already are at 3%!
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I agree with MVP on Stephano. Yay my favourite T acknowledged my favourite Z.
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what a year to make money in sc2... mvp made over 300k this year... 300K, over three hundred thousand dollars... thats like what flash made last year jesus
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On December 12 2011 23:26 Ivanov wrote: "Blizzcup Group A Winners" would be a better title, I missed the cup today and I thought it was a 1-day tournament after seeing the title. I was sad until I realized it wasn't...
: ) Thank you for the suggestion. Unfortunately I do not have a permission to change the title once it is posted. So when I posted new interviews tomorrow, I will do that : )
thank you
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lol MVP's gf knows about teamliquid streams
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On December 12 2011 23:39 zyzq wrote: lol MVP's gf knows about teamliquid streams
Why not? It is the best site for quality entertainment:D
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MVP is so incredibly easy to like. He seems so meek and unassuming, always in a somewhat fragile physical state--always gracious, whether in victory or defeat--but completely destroys people in-game, and mercilessly so. People who say he has a boring personality are crazy--his persona is almost straight out of an anime or Chinese folk story. He's the Badass Adorable Terran. ^^
Anyway, poor Hero. Everyone except him came out of the group looking great. Even though Stephano didn't make it out, he really proved himself to the community with his performance (no doubt he's turned many doubters into admirers); in contrast, judging from his lack of mention in the interviews, Hero might as well not have participated.
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MC if you read this you shouldn't all-in so much, in my opinion when we see you in macro games you shine the most! :D
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It's funny how DRG calls Stephano's style simple while MVP calls it unique.
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On December 12 2011 23:56 Kinky wrote: It's funny how DRG calls Stephano's style simple while MVP calls it unique. DeMusliM said "its impossible to studying players like Stephano,he is unpredictable and playing with a lot of styles baneling/ling/muta,ling/muta,infestor/baneling etc.
DRG jelly stephano's unique style or DRG jelly because stephano gets more attention than him.
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On December 12 2011 23:26 MayorITC wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 23:22 bbm wrote:On December 12 2011 23:16 MayorITC wrote:On December 12 2011 23:13 ladyumbra wrote: I think it's cool that MVP's girlfriend helped him by recording stephano's stream, it's seriously not safe for players with distinctive playstyles to stream if they don't want to be studied to death. True, but sooner or later you will be analyzed. Personally, I think sooner is better because all professional players will need a wide variety of styles if they want to maintain dominance in the scene. That's one of the main things people always compliment MVP on. "I NEVER lost on purpose because DRG is Korea. I was not nervous at all and lost focus too much. I really didn't want to lose at all so I hope he doesn't misunderstand that game if he did. I haven't been into the finals for a long time. I hope I can get into the finals in Blizzcup and communicate with many fans at the finals." Shame on you Team Liquid for even suggesting that MC lost on purpose to DRG. I believe MC truly meant what he said. He's always been there for the foreign players and fans so it's disgusting how quickly some people can snub him and accuse him cheating for the sake of national pride. I don't think anyone was openly accusing MC of throwing the game... it was more just despair that a 3rd party's outcome is decided by a match between two unrelated players + Show Spoiler [proving me wrong] +On December 12 2011 20:47 ambrosiaa wrote: im sure mc will let drg win so that the top 3 will be koreans. On December 12 2011 20:47 BBMorti wrote: Of course MC will lose no matter what now, Koreans will help each others go on tbh. On December 12 2011 20:56 asdads wrote: MC hates stephano imo he will purposely lose so another korean makes it through. Thats why stephano is so tense. IMO. On December 12 2011 21:18 NHY wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 21:15 Goibon wrote:On December 12 2011 21:14 MrCash wrote: Not sure why, but the last game felt like watching a "pro-wrestling" match. I know what you mean. Hard to explain it though. Not hard to explain. You two think MC threw that game on purpose. Nice try. On December 12 2011 21:20 Holdinga wrote: Dont hate on MC for losing the match, no Korean will F!@# over another Korean in these cases, it is absolutely normal. hate on the rules. It shouldnt have been head to head record, there should have been a final tie breaker, so loser plays versus Stephano
I stand corrected. And thoroughly ashamed and disappointed in a few members of teamliquid.
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On December 12 2011 23:56 Kinky wrote: It's funny how DRG calls Stephano's style simple while MVP calls it unique.
i think DRG was talking about how Stephano does not use various builds.
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How was MC, who prepared a perfect ani-muta build, throwing the game away against DRG? And second, you usually perform better while relaxed than nervous, how many games did hero lose because of that? At least hero and mc didn't have to worry about anyting while playing him, their loses were legit. DRG has too many haters these days.
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On December 12 2011 23:56 Kinky wrote: It's funny how DRG calls Stephano's style simple while MVP calls it unique.
hm perhpahs he only saw stephano doing mass roaches vs HerO and MC and never saw other games from him.
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I believe it's how Stephano doesn't indulge in mind games and quite often times over react to what he scouted.
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On December 13 2011 00:00 MuK_x wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 23:56 Kinky wrote: It's funny how DRG calls Stephano's style simple while MVP calls it unique. DeMusliM said "its impossible to studying players like Stephano,he is unpredictable and playing with a lot of styles baneling/ling/muta,ling/muta,infestor/baneling etc. DRG jelly stephano's unique style  or DRG jelly because stephano gets more attention than him.
He is proberly not very pleased he lost that ZvZ and was exstremly lucky to even make it out he should really thx the great sc 2 gods that Hero had nothing to play for and that MC got the worst map ever
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On December 12 2011 23:56 Kinky wrote: It's funny how DRG calls Stephano's style simple while MVP calls it unique.
Unique and simple aren't opposites. DRG may believe that Stephano's style is simple (composition, playstyle, or whatever) since he plays zerg and would have a better insight into timings, composition, build, and positioning. MVP may believe it is unique because no korean zerg do what Stephano does.
DRG believes that Stephano has good mechanics but his style can be figured out. MVP believes that Stephano can do well in Code A and get to Code S. Looking between both players comments, I would think that they both are very accurate, speak a bit into the mindset of korean players, and give us an insight into why Stephano does well.
(he plays well.)
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Hahaha this is why you shouldn't stream so much before a major competition. Players in the tournament stopped streaming a while back, and everyone was saying how koreans were going to be all over Stephano's stream.
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On December 13 2011 00:26 JinDesu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 23:56 Kinky wrote: It's funny how DRG calls Stephano's style simple while MVP calls it unique. Unique and simple aren't opposites. DRG may believe that Stephano's style is simple (composition, playstyle, or whatever) since he plays zerg and would have a better insight into timings, composition, build, and positioning. MVP may believe it is unique because no korean zerg do what Stephano does. DRG believes that Stephano has good mechanics but his style can be figured out. MVP believes that Stephano can do well in Code A and get to Code S. Looking between both players comments, I would think that they both are very accurate, speak a bit into the mindset of korean players, and give us an insight into why Stephano does well. (he plays well.)
haha, well put
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On December 13 2011 00:01 bbm wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 23:26 MayorITC wrote:On December 12 2011 23:22 bbm wrote:On December 12 2011 23:16 MayorITC wrote:On December 12 2011 23:13 ladyumbra wrote: I think it's cool that MVP's girlfriend helped him by recording stephano's stream, it's seriously not safe for players with distinctive playstyles to stream if they don't want to be studied to death. True, but sooner or later you will be analyzed. Personally, I think sooner is better because all professional players will need a wide variety of styles if they want to maintain dominance in the scene. That's one of the main things people always compliment MVP on. "I NEVER lost on purpose because DRG is Korea. I was not nervous at all and lost focus too much. I really didn't want to lose at all so I hope he doesn't misunderstand that game if he did. I haven't been into the finals for a long time. I hope I can get into the finals in Blizzcup and communicate with many fans at the finals." Shame on you Team Liquid for even suggesting that MC lost on purpose to DRG. I believe MC truly meant what he said. He's always been there for the foreign players and fans so it's disgusting how quickly some people can snub him and accuse him cheating for the sake of national pride. I don't think anyone was openly accusing MC of throwing the game... it was more just despair that a 3rd party's outcome is decided by a match between two unrelated players + Show Spoiler [proving me wrong] +On December 12 2011 20:47 ambrosiaa wrote: im sure mc will let drg win so that the top 3 will be koreans. On December 12 2011 20:47 BBMorti wrote: Of course MC will lose no matter what now, Koreans will help each others go on tbh. On December 12 2011 20:56 asdads wrote: MC hates stephano imo he will purposely lose so another korean makes it through. Thats why stephano is so tense. IMO. On December 12 2011 21:18 NHY wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 21:15 Goibon wrote:On December 12 2011 21:14 MrCash wrote: Not sure why, but the last game felt like watching a "pro-wrestling" match. I know what you mean. Hard to explain it though. Not hard to explain. You two think MC threw that game on purpose. Nice try. On December 12 2011 21:20 Holdinga wrote: Dont hate on MC for losing the match, no Korean will F!@# over another Korean in these cases, it is absolutely normal. hate on the rules. It shouldnt have been head to head record, there should have been a final tie breaker, so loser plays versus Stephano
I stand corrected. And thoroughly ashamed and disappointed in a few members of teamliquid.
MC didn't throw the game at all but he did play less well then he usually does. The problem with having games that don't matter anymore for someone is that even though one player doesn't throw the game on purpose they are less motivated and will often play less well. You can see very well that games where one player doesn't care as much they tend to play impatiently and want to finish it early. Hero vs DRG is a good example of this, where Hero tried various 2-base timings/tricks and MC vs DRG, MC was impatient as well. I just don't get why the format wasn't some form of double elimation, it's a MUCH MUCH better format as all the games are always relevant for both players.. you'll never get to see games where one or even both players don't care anymore which is more fun for the audience and doesn't result in these silly scenario's where MC is basically playing on behalf of DRG.
It's also much better for the players as I can imagine it to be tricky to behave well in those games. Sometimes they have to do their best even if they don't care much because being blamed for match throwing is pretty huge in korea.. Also showing gratitude for one playing doing well or bad can be misinterpreted very easily.
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Thanks for the translations! I renamed it according to that guy's suggestion, PM me if you wanted something else Jun.
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On December 12 2011 23:56 Kinky wrote: It's funny how DRG calls Stephano's style simple while MVP calls it unique.
Well to be completely fair, they were talking about different matchups. MVP was actually talking about Stephano's unique ZvP if I read that right.
Edit: Nevermind. MVP started talking about Stephano's ZvP but then mentioned his ZvT and all-around style in the last two sentences.
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Hail to the victors!
Oh dear, DRG seems miffed that TL underestimated him so much. I guess this win is like a huge slap in the face to everyone who voted against him.
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I didn't even see that poll for the winner of the Blizzard Cup. Great interviews, MC lost to DRG just cause I wanted him to have better seeding, but really wanted DRG through, so best of both worlds for me really :D
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On December 12 2011 23:26 MayorITC wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 23:22 bbm wrote:On December 12 2011 23:16 MayorITC wrote:On December 12 2011 23:13 ladyumbra wrote: I think it's cool that MVP's girlfriend helped him by recording stephano's stream, it's seriously not safe for players with distinctive playstyles to stream if they don't want to be studied to death. True, but sooner or later you will be analyzed. Personally, I think sooner is better because all professional players will need a wide variety of styles if they want to maintain dominance in the scene. That's one of the main things people always compliment MVP on. "I NEVER lost on purpose because DRG is Korea. I was not nervous at all and lost focus too much. I really didn't want to lose at all so I hope he doesn't misunderstand that game if he did. I haven't been into the finals for a long time. I hope I can get into the finals in Blizzcup and communicate with many fans at the finals." Shame on you Team Liquid for even suggesting that MC lost on purpose to DRG. I believe MC truly meant what he said. He's always been there for the foreign players and fans so it's disgusting how quickly some people can snub him and accuse him cheating for the sake of national pride. I don't think anyone was openly accusing MC of throwing the game... it was more just despair that a 3rd party's outcome is decided by a match between two unrelated players Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 20:47 ambrosiaa wrote: im sure mc will let drg win so that the top 3 will be koreans. Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 20:47 BBMorti wrote: Of course MC will lose no matter what now, Koreans will help each others go on tbh. Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 20:56 asdads wrote: MC hates stephano imo he will purposely lose so another korean makes it through. Thats why stephano is so tense. IMO. Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 21:18 NHY wrote:On December 12 2011 21:15 Goibon wrote:On December 12 2011 21:14 MrCash wrote: Not sure why, but the last game felt like watching a "pro-wrestling" match. I know what you mean. Hard to explain it though. Not hard to explain. You two think MC threw that game on purpose. Nice try. Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 21:20 Holdinga wrote: Dont hate on MC for losing the match, no Korean will F!@# over another Korean in these cases, it is absolutely normal. hate on the rules. It shouldnt have been head to head record, there should have been a final tie breaker, so loser plays versus Stephano
this is so disgusting...
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On December 13 2011 00:47 Flowjo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 23:26 MayorITC wrote:On December 12 2011 23:22 bbm wrote:On December 12 2011 23:16 MayorITC wrote:On December 12 2011 23:13 ladyumbra wrote: I think it's cool that MVP's girlfriend helped him by recording stephano's stream, it's seriously not safe for players with distinctive playstyles to stream if they don't want to be studied to death. True, but sooner or later you will be analyzed. Personally, I think sooner is better because all professional players will need a wide variety of styles if they want to maintain dominance in the scene. That's one of the main things people always compliment MVP on. "I NEVER lost on purpose because DRG is Korea. I was not nervous at all and lost focus too much. I really didn't want to lose at all so I hope he doesn't misunderstand that game if he did. I haven't been into the finals for a long time. I hope I can get into the finals in Blizzcup and communicate with many fans at the finals." Shame on you Team Liquid for even suggesting that MC lost on purpose to DRG. I believe MC truly meant what he said. He's always been there for the foreign players and fans so it's disgusting how quickly some people can snub him and accuse him cheating for the sake of national pride. I don't think anyone was openly accusing MC of throwing the game... it was more just despair that a 3rd party's outcome is decided by a match between two unrelated players On December 12 2011 20:47 ambrosiaa wrote: im sure mc will let drg win so that the top 3 will be koreans. On December 12 2011 20:47 BBMorti wrote: Of course MC will lose no matter what now, Koreans will help each others go on tbh. On December 12 2011 20:56 asdads wrote: MC hates stephano imo he will purposely lose so another korean makes it through. Thats why stephano is so tense. IMO. On December 12 2011 21:18 NHY wrote:On December 12 2011 21:15 Goibon wrote:On December 12 2011 21:14 MrCash wrote: Not sure why, but the last game felt like watching a "pro-wrestling" match. I know what you mean. Hard to explain it though. Not hard to explain. You two think MC threw that game on purpose. Nice try. On December 12 2011 21:20 Holdinga wrote: Dont hate on MC for losing the match, no Korean will F!@# over another Korean in these cases, it is absolutely normal. hate on the rules. It shouldnt have been head to head record, there should have been a final tie breaker, so loser plays versus Stephano
this is so disgusting...
Yes. Also if you watched the game you saw that MC hung in there for ages after having half the supply of drg. I may quote Wolf here ' He made way more than cost efficient trades at the end '. Why would he fight til the very end if he was to lose on purpose? cant explain that.
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It's really hard for me to like MVP when 90% of his interview starts out with some sort of excuse. "I was in bad condition" etc. I think he's only one of the few korean pros that actually use that in his interviews. MC has never used that as an excuse despite traveling the most among programers in 2011.
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On December 13 2011 02:58 power-overwhelming wrote: It's really hard for me to like MVP when 90% of his interview starts out with some sort of excuse. "I was in bad condition" etc. I think he's only one of the few korean pros that actually use that in his interviews. MC has never used that as an excuse despite traveling the most among programers in 2011.
Reallly.........The dude was participating in WCG the day before this happened. Of course that's going to affect his play
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On December 13 2011 02:58 power-overwhelming wrote: It's really hard for me to like MVP when 90% of his interview starts out with some sort of excuse. "I was in bad condition" etc. I think he's only one of the few korean pros that actually use that in his interviews. MC has never used that as an excuse despite traveling the most among programers in 2011.
MVP and MC have very different mentallities. Both are out to win it, but MVP is always guaging his play and thinking analytically about reasons for win/loss, at least in interviews, while MC is just a total BOSS.
I love these players so much. <3 Starcraft.
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On December 12 2011 22:33 Ysellian wrote:Too much bias in that poll XD
Yea, Stephano being 2nd and Hero being 3rd pretty much shows how valid that poll really is. Though if you remove all the foreigners it looks pretty legit.
On December 13 2011 02:58 power-overwhelming wrote: It's really hard for me to like MVP when 90% of his interview starts out with some sort of excuse. "I was in bad condition" etc. I think he's only one of the few korean pros that actually use that in his interviews. MC has never used that as an excuse despite traveling the most among programers in 2011.
90%? More like the last two or three... when he actually did have different tournaments, sometimes in different places either the day before or the day of. You're crazy. Mvp always gives great interviews. Mvp always being extremely manner, truthful, and oftentimes funny makes it hard to like him?
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On December 13 2011 02:58 power-overwhelming wrote: It's really hard for me to like MVP when 90% of his interview starts out with some sort of excuse. "I was in bad condition" etc. I think he's only one of the few korean pros that actually use that in his interviews. MC has never used that as an excuse despite traveling the most among programers in 2011. Not sure if you've just never travelled and don't know about jetlag, or you're just trolling.
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No because I know for a fact if he had lost, then the LR thread would be filled with excuses of him being jetlagged. When Bomber fell out of group play after he had just travelled people threw the slump word around, same with Nestea. WCG was in Busan anyway, it's not like he had to fly different timezones to get back home. If he partied after he won then that's his fault.
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On December 13 2011 02:58 power-overwhelming wrote: It's really hard for me to like MVP when 90% of his interview starts out with some sort of excuse. "I was in bad condition" etc. I think he's only one of the few korean pros that actually use that in his interviews. MC has never used that as an excuse despite traveling the most among programers in 2011.
It was not an excuse. It was a fact. Mc said that too sometimes and Mc did not really complain anything. They are both great players.
It was true that mvp did not have time to prepare so he was a bit worried. But in the end he was good enough and I think the maps help him also.
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I like MVP more and more after every interview. Seems very genuine.
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On December 13 2011 00:14 HappyChris wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 00:00 MuK_x wrote:On December 12 2011 23:56 Kinky wrote: It's funny how DRG calls Stephano's style simple while MVP calls it unique. DeMusliM said "its impossible to studying players like Stephano,he is unpredictable and playing with a lot of styles baneling/ling/muta,ling/muta,infestor/baneling etc. DRG jelly stephano's unique style  or DRG jelly because stephano gets more attention than him. He is proberly not very pleased he lost that ZvZ and was exstremly lucky to even make it out he should really thx the great sc 2 gods that Hero had nothing to play for and that MC got the worst map ever
Yeah DRG was extremely lucky to even make it out. Stephano was extremely unlucky to not make it out. No doubt.
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On December 12 2011 23:18 HappyChris wrote: Happy to see MVP got so high regards of Stephano however im still gonna support Nestea:D
Stephano #1!!!!
Hopefully Naniwa can show some foreigner life!!!!!!!!!!
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On December 13 2011 02:58 power-overwhelming wrote: It's really hard for me to like MVP when 90% of his interview starts out with some sort of excuse. "I was in bad condition" etc. I think he's only one of the few korean pros that actually use that in his interviews. MC has never used that as an excuse despite traveling the most among programers in 2011. because MVP has carpal tunnel,its really hurts when you nonstop practice and traveling tournament to tournament.
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On December 13 2011 02:58 power-overwhelming wrote: It's really hard for me to like MVP when 90% of his interview starts out with some sort of excuse. "I was in bad condition" etc. I think he's only one of the few korean pros that actually use that in his interviews. MC has never used that as an excuse despite traveling the most among programers in 2011.
He still won despite his medical conditions and with his excuses. I don't see why you are putting him down when he actually 'won'. It's usually when bad players make excuses that look bad
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On December 13 2011 03:13 power-overwhelming wrote: No because I know for a fact if he had lost, then the LR thread would be filled with excuses of him being jetlagged. When Bomber fell out of group play after he had just travelled people threw the slump word around, same with Nestea. WCG was in Busan anyway, it's not like he had to fly different timezones to get back home. If he partied after he won then that's his fault.
Sadly you're probably right. I'm sure the fans would have stuck up for him.
But still, that doesn't change the fact thatt you can't deny that going through a whole tournament literally right before this one, especially going into a tournament that has a large component of study the players, in which the WCG surely cut into that time, would have an effect on anyone. MVP wins a lot, so he travels a lot. . . it's expected for him to be tired.
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Hmm different angles on stephano
MVP + Show Spoiler +Q : How do you feel about Stephano?
After the first game was over, I watched his game. It was against Hero and I thought he was very good. I was even emotionally touched with his play. If he participates in a GSL Code A qualifier, I am sure he has a really high chance of getting into Code S. As far as I know he is the first player who used Infestor build, playing against him did tell me that he has a distinctive style. He has got a good game sense with his own unique style.
DRG + Show Spoiler +Q : How do you feel about Stephano after playing against him?
I think he is a good player but his style is rather simple. His opponent can easily make a counter build-order against him. If players face Stephano bit more and take time to analyse his style, he should be a comfortable opponent. But his mechanics are solid.
Kinda funny to see the different feelings. You can tell MVP studied Stephano and had a clear build prepared for him
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IdrA said the exact same thing as DRG about Stephano's play. I wonder if other pro's feel the same way.
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On December 13 2011 00:00 MuK_x wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 23:56 Kinky wrote: It's funny how DRG calls Stephano's style simple while MVP calls it unique. DeMusliM said "its impossible to studying players like Stephano,he is unpredictable and playing with a lot of styles baneling/ling/muta,ling/muta,infestor/baneling etc. DRG jelly stephano's unique style  or DRG jelly because stephano gets more attention than him. Both DRG and MVP could be correct, of course.
For example, DRG may be referring specifically to Stephano's ZvZ, while MVP might be referring to his ZvT, etc.
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cool interview
hints of DRG persuading MC to not try so hard against him so that he can be first in the group. DRG saying he won't buy MC dinner because MC was actually trying hard to win. Then in MC's interview, he assured stephano that was indeed trying to win even though there was nothing on the line for him.
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On December 13 2011 05:35 Trsjnica wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 00:00 MuK_x wrote:On December 12 2011 23:56 Kinky wrote: It's funny how DRG calls Stephano's style simple while MVP calls it unique. DeMusliM said "its impossible to studying players like Stephano,he is unpredictable and playing with a lot of styles baneling/ling/muta,ling/muta,infestor/baneling etc. DRG jelly stephano's unique style  or DRG jelly because stephano gets more attention than him. Both DRG and MVP could be correct, of course. For example, DRG may be referring specifically to Stephano's ZvZ, while MVP might be referring to his ZvT, etc.
Exactly. And I have to point out that those korean progamers can see much more from another player's gameplay than we can. There's no point arguing.
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Maybe DRG can explain exactly what he meant himself.. seeing as he's already posted in the thread 
Bit of a strange day really, could have been any of the top 4 who went through. In the end I'm happy that it was DRG, MVP and MC
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anyone who thinks MC threw the game, either didnt watch the game or just consumed in negative energy.
If anything, it showed how much MC wanted to win.
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MC lost on purpose(HE DIDNT CARE) for sure why would you make 6 phoenix and do 0 damage with them?Ofc he put up a show when it was already over. Also instead of trying to go into the main after seeing 10 spinecrawlers he should have killed the ex-gold base reducing DRG to 1 base and he would have had a chance to take the game.
Also it wasnt a fair system the ppl with 2-2 should have played a tiebreaker. You cant trust a person who has already advanced and no chance of taking 1st place.
And i dont blame MC i blame GOMTV for faulty format MC just did the obvious maybe not losing on purpose but he wasnt fighting for his life either and thats when he is the best.
User was warned for this post
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On December 13 2011 06:31 careohx wrote: MC lost on purpose for sure why would you make 6 phoenix and do 0 damage with them?
Oh shit. Don't bring it into this thread as well T_T Keep your conspiracy theories to LR threads, please.
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On December 13 2011 06:31 careohx wrote: MC lost on purpose for sure why would you make 6 phoenix and do 0 damage with them?Ofc he put up a show when it was already over. Also instead of trying to go into the main after seeing 10 spinecrawlers he should have killed the ex-gold base reducing DRG to 1 base and he would have had a chance to take the game.
Also it wasnt a fair system the ppl with 2-2 should have played a tiebreaker. You cant trust a person who has already advanced and no chance of taking 1st place.
And i dont blame MC i blame GOMTV for faulty format MC just did the obvious maybe not losing on purpose but he wasnt fighting for his life either and thats when he is the best.
Actually you shouldn't blame either. You should blame stephano for losing and then having to rely on MC to win to advance.
Great interviews thanks for the translations :D
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On December 13 2011 06:31 careohx wrote: MC lost on purpose for sure why would you make 6 phoenix and do 0 damage with them?Ofc he put up a show when it was already over. Also instead of trying to go into the main after seeing 10 spinecrawlers he should have killed the ex-gold base reducing DRG to 1 base and he would have had a chance to take the game.
Also it wasnt a fair system the ppl with 2-2 should have played a tiebreaker. You cant trust a person who has already advanced and no chance of taking 1st place.
And i dont blame MC i blame GOMTV for faulty format MC just did the obvious maybe not losing on purpose but he wasnt fighting for his life either and thats when he is the best. Man, how can people get away with comments like these... Did you even read the interviews?
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On December 13 2011 06:40 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 06:31 careohx wrote: MC lost on purpose for sure why would you make 6 phoenix and do 0 damage with them?Ofc he put up a show when it was already over. Also instead of trying to go into the main after seeing 10 spinecrawlers he should have killed the ex-gold base reducing DRG to 1 base and he would have had a chance to take the game.
Also it wasnt a fair system the ppl with 2-2 should have played a tiebreaker. You cant trust a person who has already advanced and no chance of taking 1st place.
And i dont blame MC i blame GOMTV for faulty format MC just did the obvious maybe not losing on purpose but he wasnt fighting for his life either and thats when he is the best. Actually you shouldn't blame either. You should blame stephano for losing and then having to rely on MC to win to advance. Great interviews thanks for the translations :D
Well he won the same amount of matches as MC and we can argue about the format w/e but i still stick to my opinion that they should have played a tiebreaker match.
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On December 13 2011 06:31 careohx wrote: MC lost on purpose for sure why would you make 6 phoenix and do 0 damage with them?Ofc he put up a show when it was already over. Also instead of trying to go into the main after seeing 10 spinecrawlers he should have killed the ex-gold base reducing DRG to 1 base and he would have had a chance to take the game.
Also it wasnt a fair system the ppl with 2-2 should have played a tiebreaker. You cant trust a person who has already advanced and no chance of taking 1st place.
And i dont blame MC i blame GOMTV for faulty format MC just did the obvious maybe not losing on purpose but he wasnt fighting for his life either and thats when he is the best.
Please shut the hell up... gosh... do you know why Apple has many anti-fans? because of fan boys. The same can be said about Stephano. He is a good player and all but you don't have the rights to bring down MC like this.
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On December 13 2011 06:46 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 06:31 careohx wrote: MC lost on purpose for sure why would you make 6 phoenix and do 0 damage with them?Ofc he put up a show when it was already over. Also instead of trying to go into the main after seeing 10 spinecrawlers he should have killed the ex-gold base reducing DRG to 1 base and he would have had a chance to take the game.
Also it wasnt a fair system the ppl with 2-2 should have played a tiebreaker. You cant trust a person who has already advanced and no chance of taking 1st place.
And i dont blame MC i blame GOMTV for faulty format MC just did the obvious maybe not losing on purpose but he wasnt fighting for his life either and thats when he is the best. Man, how can people get away with comments like these... Did you even read the interviews?
You take these interviews seriously? They just say what people want to hear. He is not going to go out there and say "i didnt care so w/e".
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On December 13 2011 00:14 HappyChris wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 00:00 MuK_x wrote:On December 12 2011 23:56 Kinky wrote: It's funny how DRG calls Stephano's style simple while MVP calls it unique. DeMusliM said "its impossible to studying players like Stephano,he is unpredictable and playing with a lot of styles baneling/ling/muta,ling/muta,infestor/baneling etc. DRG jelly stephano's unique style  or DRG jelly because stephano gets more attention than him. He is proberly not very pleased he lost that ZvZ and was exstremly lucky to even make it out he should really thx the great sc 2 gods that Hero had nothing to play for and that MC got the worst map ever The winner of a group where 3/5 advance was extremely lucky to advance?
The bias is strong in this one.
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Well you guys are free to believe that MC threw the game so that Stephano wouldn't advance. But then again, Stephano himself said he doesn't trust koreans. He should've advanced on his own and not having to rely to anyone. His fault for losing to MC and MVP.
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On December 13 2011 06:56 power-overwhelming wrote: Well you guys are free to believe that MC threw the game so that Stephano wouldn't advance. But then again, Stephano himself said he doesn't trust koreans. He should've advanced on his own and not having to rely to anyone. His fault for losing to MC and MVP.
I dont think he threw it so Stephano wouldnt advance i think he didnt care enough to play his best. As you like to quote the interview "it doesnt matter if you are 2nd or 3rd in your group"....yes he said it himself.
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MC's overall record vs DRG is 0-4 and he thinks facing him in the semis shouldn't be a problem? OK... :p
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On December 13 2011 07:03 sitromit wrote: MC's overall record vs DRG is 0-4 and he thinks facing him in the semis shouldn't be a problem? OK... :p 1-4 he beat him in KSL.
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On December 13 2011 06:58 careohx wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 06:56 power-overwhelming wrote: Well you guys are free to believe that MC threw the game so that Stephano wouldn't advance. But then again, Stephano himself said he doesn't trust koreans. He should've advanced on his own and not having to rely to anyone. His fault for losing to MC and MVP. I dont think he threw it so Stephano wouldnt advance i think he didnt care enough to play his best. As you like to quote the interview "it doesnt matter if you are 2nd or 3rd in your group"....yes he said it himself.
This is a prime example of why people get misinformed easily in this forum. First of all
1. The translation itself says "to me 2nd and 3rd are the same" meaning that first was his goal but he failed. 2. It's a raw translation, so arguing over logistics is not even reasonable
But heres where contradiction and double standard fail in TL. Majority of the people (mostly MVP fans) are bashing MC for all-inning and dubbed him as terrible. Yet when MC loses to DRG "he didn't try". I understand the idea is the same - fueling MC hate - but be consistent (not directed at you, but to all the haters).
IF, IF MC did throw the game away, maybe because he just hates foreigner and DRG was his best friend in the world, so what? Stephano should've tried to win his games himself to advance.
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On December 13 2011 06:58 careohx wrote: I dont think he threw it
On December 13 2011 06:31 careohx wrote: MC lost on purpose for sure
Which one is true?
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On December 13 2011 03:32 leo23 wrote:Hmm different angles on stephano MVP + Show Spoiler +Q : How do you feel about Stephano?
After the first game was over, I watched his game. It was against Hero and I thought he was very good. I was even emotionally touched with his play. If he participates in a GSL Code A qualifier, I am sure he has a really high chance of getting into Code S. As far as I know he is the first player who used Infestor build, playing against him did tell me that he has a distinctive style. He has got a good game sense with his own unique style. DRG + Show Spoiler +Q : How do you feel about Stephano after playing against him?
I think he is a good player but his style is rather simple. His opponent can easily make a counter build-order against him. If players face Stephano bit more and take time to analyse his style, he should be a comfortable opponent. But his mechanics are solid. Kinda funny to see the different feelings. You can tell MVP studied Stephano and had a clear build prepared for him If I have to pick one, I would trust DRG's opinion more, just because he is a top zerg.
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"I also recently got a hobby of collecting trophies and having another one in my collection would make me happy." MVP is such a nerd beast its scary lolol, I have to say i love this attitude from him hehe.
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On December 13 2011 07:05 power-overwhelming wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 06:58 careohx wrote:On December 13 2011 06:56 power-overwhelming wrote: Well you guys are free to believe that MC threw the game so that Stephano wouldn't advance. But then again, Stephano himself said he doesn't trust koreans. He should've advanced on his own and not having to rely to anyone. His fault for losing to MC and MVP. I dont think he threw it so Stephano wouldnt advance i think he didnt care enough to play his best. As you like to quote the interview "it doesnt matter if you are 2nd or 3rd in your group"....yes he said it himself. This is a prime example of why people get misinformed easily in this forum. First of all 1. The translation itself says "to me 2nd and 3rd are the same" meaning that first was his goal but he failed. 2. It's a raw translation, so arguing over logistics is not even reasonable But heres where contradiction and double standard fail in TL. Majority of the people (mostly MVP fans) are bashing MC for all-inning and dubbed him as terrible. Yet when MC loses to DRG "he didn't try". I understand the idea is the same - fueling MC hate - but be consistent (not directed at you, but to all the haters). IF, IF MC did throw the game away, maybe because he just hates foreigner and DRG was his best friend in the world, so what? Stephano should've tried to win his games himself to advance.
Well the problem is... if MC's actually smart and playing well then his results.... well kind of diminish all of MVP's victories. So they have to maintain the myth of MC as the terrible player and consequently have to hate him as well as his Dead President rep diminished the prestige of all T victories.
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haha, recording stephano's stream with her phone. how useless (considering the build he showed today), but how cute.
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My girlfriend brought me an energy drink so I want to thank her.
MANNERS
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On December 13 2011 07:06 SeaSwift wrote:Which one is true?
For me not caring and not doing your best is basically the same as losing on purpose.
Also in your first quote i said "i dont think he threw it just so Stephano wouldnt advance".
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Q : Any last words?
I thank my team-mates who helped me to practice. Now I have a chance I will show my fans that I can also get into the finals. As for the last words.. I have seen the winners prediction poll on Teamliquid, I thought I would be at least in the mid-way but only 2% voted for me. I was shocked. I got more determined to get win the tournament after looking at the poll. So keep an out eye.
LOL! The poor kid! See what you guys have done! You monsters!
haha
DRG's going to take it....unless it's ZvZ against nestea...
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Q : Any last words?
I thank my team-mates who helped me to practice. Now I have a chance I will show my fans that I can also get into the finals. As for the last words.. I have seen the winners prediction poll on Teamliquid, I thought I would be at least in the mid-way but only 2% voted for me. I was shocked. I got more determined to get win the tournament after looking at the poll. So keep an out eye.
The funny/sad thing is that DRG got less votes than 'Other.' People thought the last player to qualify for the Blizzard Cup had a better chance of winning despite not even knowing who it was lol!
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On December 13 2011 06:56 power-overwhelming wrote: Well you guys are free to believe that MC threw the game so that Stephano wouldn't advance. But then again, Stephano himself said he doesn't trust koreans. He should've advanced on his own and not having to rely to anyone. His fault for losing to MC and MVP.
In general you shouldnt judge an entire nation based on a few bad experiences but in this case I understand why Stephano wouldnt trust koreans. DRG said in the interview that he tried to persuade MC to lose on purpose (which btw is a dick-move imo).
Yes, Stephano could have just won his own matches but just how many zergs will take down MVP in a BO1 on Shakuras Plateau?
The fact is that Stephano was down 0-1 before he even played any games and when you combine it with how the other results turned out and that the match DRG vs MC was played last, it becomes clear that Stephano was about as unlucky as one could possibly be. In the end it was a complete toss-up who would advance between MC, DRG and Stephano and Stephano got the short end of the stick.
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lol mvp a hobby of collecting trophies, god damn!
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DRG said he engaged in a mind-game, he didn't tell MC to lose.
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On December 13 2011 14:29 DaCruise wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 06:56 power-overwhelming wrote: Well you guys are free to believe that MC threw the game so that Stephano wouldn't advance. But then again, Stephano himself said he doesn't trust koreans. He should've advanced on his own and not having to rely to anyone. His fault for losing to MC and MVP. In general you shouldnt judge an entire nation based on a few bad experiences but in this case I understand why Stephano wouldnt trust koreans. DRG said in the interview that he tried to persuade MC to lose on purpose (which btw is a dick-move imo). Yes, Stephano could have just won his own matches but just how many zergs will take down MVP in a BO1 on Shakuras Plateau? The fact is that Stephano was down 0-1 before he even played any games and when you combine it with how the other results turned out and that the match DRG vs MC was played last, it becomes clear that Stephano was about as unlucky as one could possibly be. In the end it was a complete toss-up who would advance between MC, DRG and Stephano and Stephano got the short end of the stick.
wtf? Did you read the same interview I did? Even in korean it does not say that..... he basically tried to play mind games.... to get an upper hand,.......
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On December 13 2011 14:29 DaCruise wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 06:56 power-overwhelming wrote: Well you guys are free to believe that MC threw the game so that Stephano wouldn't advance. But then again, Stephano himself said he doesn't trust koreans. He should've advanced on his own and not having to rely to anyone. His fault for losing to MC and MVP. In general you shouldnt judge an entire nation based on a few bad experiences but in this case I understand why Stephano wouldnt trust koreans. DRG said in the interview that he tried to persuade MC to lose on purpose (which btw is a dick-move imo). Yes, Stephano could have just won his own matches but just how many zergs will take down MVP in a BO1 on Shakuras Plateau? The fact is that Stephano was down 0-1 before he even played any games and when you combine it with how the other results turned out and that the match DRG vs MC was played last, it becomes clear that Stephano was about as unlucky as one could possibly be. In the end it was a complete toss-up who would advance between MC, DRG and Stephano and Stephano got the short end of the stick.
DRG would be a massive favorite to beat MC in a GSL match right now or at least before last night he would have. He hadn't beaten a notable zerg in an extremely long time. It was far from a toss up.
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God, plz stop with all this sillyness. MC didnt lose on purpose he tryed his very best. Everyone who watched the match could see that
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Germany7312 Posts
Love that MC got a place. Wish him well.
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Lol drg @ the polls. I voted for him
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What MVP is saying about how he let his GF record Stephano's stream when he wasn't home and wasn't able to study Stephano himself via a stream is something progamers need to start consider more. When u're streaming u're allowing any potential opponent to look right inside your mind and as we saw MVP did the perfect build against Stephano's ZvT style.
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On December 13 2011 15:46 Flowjo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 14:29 DaCruise wrote:On December 13 2011 06:56 power-overwhelming wrote: Well you guys are free to believe that MC threw the game so that Stephano wouldn't advance. But then again, Stephano himself said he doesn't trust koreans. He should've advanced on his own and not having to rely to anyone. His fault for losing to MC and MVP. In general you shouldnt judge an entire nation based on a few bad experiences but in this case I understand why Stephano wouldnt trust koreans. DRG said in the interview that he tried to persuade MC to lose on purpose (which btw is a dick-move imo). Yes, Stephano could have just won his own matches but just how many zergs will take down MVP in a BO1 on Shakuras Plateau? The fact is that Stephano was down 0-1 before he even played any games and when you combine it with how the other results turned out and that the match DRG vs MC was played last, it becomes clear that Stephano was about as unlucky as one could possibly be. In the end it was a complete toss-up who would advance between MC, DRG and Stephano and Stephano got the short end of the stick. wtf? Did you read the same interview I did? Even in korean it does not say that..... he basically tried to play mind games.... to get an upper hand,.......
I am just reading between the lines.
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On December 13 2011 16:25 DaCruise wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 15:46 Flowjo wrote:On December 13 2011 14:29 DaCruise wrote:On December 13 2011 06:56 power-overwhelming wrote: Well you guys are free to believe that MC threw the game so that Stephano wouldn't advance. But then again, Stephano himself said he doesn't trust koreans. He should've advanced on his own and not having to rely to anyone. His fault for losing to MC and MVP. In general you shouldnt judge an entire nation based on a few bad experiences but in this case I understand why Stephano wouldnt trust koreans. DRG said in the interview that he tried to persuade MC to lose on purpose (which btw is a dick-move imo). Yes, Stephano could have just won his own matches but just how many zergs will take down MVP in a BO1 on Shakuras Plateau? The fact is that Stephano was down 0-1 before he even played any games and when you combine it with how the other results turned out and that the match DRG vs MC was played last, it becomes clear that Stephano was about as unlucky as one could possibly be. In the end it was a complete toss-up who would advance between MC, DRG and Stephano and Stephano got the short end of the stick. wtf? Did you read the same interview I did? Even in korean it does not say that..... he basically tried to play mind games.... to get an upper hand,....... I am just reading between the lines.
Sometimes by doing so, you create something that isn't there.
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On December 13 2011 16:25 DaCruise wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 15:46 Flowjo wrote:On December 13 2011 14:29 DaCruise wrote:On December 13 2011 06:56 power-overwhelming wrote: Well you guys are free to believe that MC threw the game so that Stephano wouldn't advance. But then again, Stephano himself said he doesn't trust koreans. He should've advanced on his own and not having to rely to anyone. His fault for losing to MC and MVP. In general you shouldnt judge an entire nation based on a few bad experiences but in this case I understand why Stephano wouldnt trust koreans. DRG said in the interview that he tried to persuade MC to lose on purpose (which btw is a dick-move imo). Yes, Stephano could have just won his own matches but just how many zergs will take down MVP in a BO1 on Shakuras Plateau? The fact is that Stephano was down 0-1 before he even played any games and when you combine it with how the other results turned out and that the match DRG vs MC was played last, it becomes clear that Stephano was about as unlucky as one could possibly be. In the end it was a complete toss-up who would advance between MC, DRG and Stephano and Stephano got the short end of the stick. wtf? Did you read the same interview I did? Even in korean it does not say that..... he basically tried to play mind games.... to get an upper hand,....... I am just reading between the lines. Of a translation.
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Lol at the idea of DRG publicly claiming that he was trying to get MC to throw a GSL tournament game after what happened to Byun and Coca for a relatively minor game in the KSL. Something makes me think that's not what he was going for.
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Q : Do you find Blizzcup different from other tournaments?
It's like being in GSL up/down matches (laughs). Because it is BO1 and the full-league format. I personally find the format bit disappointing. Strong players getting knocked out easily doesn't seem to be a good thing. I think they should have made it dual-elimination format.
Damn right MC.
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DRG jokes about bribing MC with dinner for throwing a match... stop taking it so seriously people. We saw how hard MC played, no foul there.
DRG just says stupid stuff sometimes because he's awkward and funny.
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United States23455 Posts
Are there any Group B Interviews?
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DRG got beaten, says his opponent is not so good.
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DRG got beaten, says his opponent is not so good.
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