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Why I Think Stephano is a Really Good SC2 Player - Page 7

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SilentShout
Profile Joined March 2011
686 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 17:45:27
December 10 2011 17:44 GMT
#121
I'm curious why you would make this post with the Blizzard Cup only a few days away. Are you worried he won't do well there and this post will be irrelevant? If Stephano does well enough I'd imagine it would only server to bolster your argument and then it would be good idea to make a post like this.

But now? Stephano has yet to prove how he handles himself against the very very best (which he will soon enough). Until he does, I can't see how you can come to this best SC2 player conclusion.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
December 10 2011 17:44 GMT
#122
Well, I read the whole thread, yet still strongly disagree with your assumption. His initial wins against the koreans you mentioned, were quite a while ago when his style was still quite different and not many Koreans got to play against it, hence they were unprepared, and lost. I'm fine with you giving him credit for his wins, but he has yet to win a major tournament among Koreans (more than 3...) in a decisive manner, we can hold off on the unabashed fanboyism outside of his fanclub, I'll be looking forward to see how he does in the Blizzard Cup, maybe then we can hop on the hype train.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Hnnngg
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1101 Posts
December 10 2011 17:44 GMT
#123
ForGG already confirmed Idra is the best player in the world, cmon guys.
Aldehyde
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden939 Posts
December 10 2011 17:44 GMT
#124
Isn't there already a Stephano fan club? It would also be a much more enjoyable read if the writing wasn't so... bad

Stephano isn't the best player in the world. Perhaps he can be but he isn't in the now.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
December 10 2011 17:45 GMT
#125
I think we should call him the first foreign Bonjwa

Oh shit I just took this thread to the deepest reaches of insanity. Time to run away.
Nightshade_
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States549 Posts
December 10 2011 17:45 GMT
#126
There is never a "greatest player in the world" ever, I mean ever. While someone will beat someone with something no one has seen before in a tournament, those players have seen it, will learn to counter it, and then they become better than the winner. It's a fluctuating level of skill, and you can never just pin oh he's the best" on someone. If that were the case Stephano would have won both MLGs and Dreamhack after IPL, he didn't, he lost.
Lil' Joey, Master of the A-Move Stalker Strike Force
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
December 10 2011 17:45 GMT
#127
lol what?

How anyone with a brain cannot see that IMMVP is the best player in the world hands down is a mystery to me. This coming from a Zerg player that still hates everything non Zerg.
I love crazymoving
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
December 10 2011 17:45 GMT
#128
Speed up to the actual tournament. Korean Code S players are suddenly rolled by this French Zerg, and I said rolled. Not just because he had a weird infestor plus really highly upgraded lings combo against Terran, but also because he played a weird style of ZvP that either outright killed Protosses or slowly constricted them until Broodlords make players like EG_Incontrol cry about how sad his race was. ZvZ was equally as impressive for not only me, but anyone watching him.

Stephano went on to win that tournament, and not without some insane memories like the Mothership vortex by Kiwkaki on Shattered Temple. At the end of it call Stephano decisively eliminated the following Koreans from his path:
FXO_Lucky (4-0 in the finals)
Ogs_TheSTC
FXO_Inori
MVP_Violet
Slayers_Boxer
Slayers_MMA


This french Zerg, who had been dominating EU ladder and even placed #1, was unbeknowst by other pro players. EG_Incontrol even admitted he had no idea who this guy was, although he crashed through waves of Code S korean players and made his wins look so convincing.


The only Code S player in that list is MMA and Stephano didn't beat him at the LAN, but at the online qualifiers for the LAN, which for MMA was played at something like 6 AM, at which point MMA had already qualified for the tournament after staying up all night playing qualifiers, the last of which being a very long and difficult series against July which he won with a comeback. And Stephano didn't roll him, he won 2-1.

Btw, Stephano did play a Code S Korean in the LAN, he played alive and got rolled 2-0 in the group stages...
RoyAlex
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway420 Posts
December 10 2011 17:46 GMT
#129
On December 11 2011 01:56 LiquidFahq wrote:
There is no doubt Stephano is the best player in the world! etc etc...


Hm, how interesting.

I guess he was arbitrary born with high IQ (or whatever the attributes for being good at SC2 would be, dunno.)
Maybe no matter how hard and long HuK, IdrA, Kas and many other practices, they will never beat him anyway. Well atleast he only practices for a few hours a day, so they can actually beat him with his current practice schedule.

It's possible, but who knows.
At anyrate how undeserving and boring that would be...


I don't believe what I wrote but it's very interesting! Hope to see people discuss this in the thread.
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
December 10 2011 17:48 GMT
#130
Are admins fans of Stephano or what? How is this not locked yet?
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
December 10 2011 17:49 GMT
#131
On December 11 2011 02:48 zyzq wrote:
Are admins fans of Stephano or what? How is this not locked yet?


Wait for a moderator who watches bw to read that stephano has more talent than anyone in the world
Wrathsc2
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2025 Posts
December 10 2011 17:50 GMT
#132
this is the dumbest thread ever. Has stephano won gsl? no? then stfu
A marine walks into a bar and asks, "Wheres the counter?"
drgonzhere
Profile Joined November 2010
United States447 Posts
December 10 2011 17:50 GMT
#133
Look I like Stephano, but this is a bit much. He is not the best SC player in the world, and quite frankly I don't feel as if I have to defend that statement at all, the results speak for themselves.
Dictator for Life of the PuMa Fanclub/ DRG, PuMA, Sage, Puzzle, MMA Fighting!
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
December 10 2011 17:50 GMT
#134
lol nice thread too bad you are wrong
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
December 10 2011 17:51 GMT
#135
On December 11 2011 02:46 RoyAlex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 01:56 LiquidFahq wrote:
There is no doubt Stephano is the best player in the world! etc etc...


Hm, how interesting.

I guess he was arbitrary born with high IQ (or whatever the attributes for being good at SC2 would be, dunno.)
Maybe no matter how hard and long HuK, IdrA, Kas and many other practices, they will never beat him anyway. Well atleast he only practices for a few hours a day, so they can actually beat him with his current practice schedule.

It's possible, but who knows.
At anyrate how undeserving and boring that would be...


I don't believe what I wrote but it's very interesting! Hope to see people discuss this in the thread.


IQ isnt the deciding factor.

OT: He's a great player no doubt but not the best in the world
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
December 10 2011 17:51 GMT
#136
On December 11 2011 02:50 oneofthem wrote:
lol nice thread too bad you are wrong

Too bad the OP was obviously not serious.
Lewan72
Profile Joined April 2011
United States381 Posts
December 10 2011 17:51 GMT
#137
What the hell I think stephano is really really good but best player in the world? Not even close.
MC / Hero / MMA / Bomber / Coca / Suppy
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 10 2011 17:51 GMT
#138
On December 11 2011 02:48 zyzq wrote:
Are admins fans of Stephano or what? How is this not locked yet?


No lock This thread is so bad it's good. It makes me weep for the intelligence of some sc2 fans though.
leviathan20
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom193 Posts
December 10 2011 17:51 GMT
#139
Seems to be a blatant copy of this thread. No?
"We better get that boy a waffle NOW or he gon' DIE!"
zedi
Profile Joined October 2010
165 Posts
December 10 2011 17:52 GMT
#140
On December 11 2011 02:51 Maenander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 02:50 oneofthem wrote:
lol nice thread too bad you are wrong

Too bad the OP was obviously not serious.


Yeah, not sure if serious. If not, I don't see the point of posting such an useless troll.
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