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On December 09 2011 21:31 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 21:08 monXikk wrote:
People are butthurt because some anonymous source of ESFI says he is unprofessional? O_o Cmon its known fact. Naniwa was in like 20 teams in his entire WC3 and SC2 career and everybody who remember ESL controversy can say that something is wrong with him... No one disputes that Naniwa is known to have a bad attitude. People are arguing about: 1. Whether having a bad attitude even matters, as long as he gets results and wins tournaments 2. Whether an anonymous source (and by extension, news outlets that use them) has any credibility when no background is given 3. I think some people were also arguing that star players are more important than their teams, whatevs
You missed the most important point:
ESFI didn't use an anonymous source to bring an information, they used it to give an opinion.
This is one of the most shameful practice for a journalist. Only the worst among the worst do that.
(it's understandable from ESFI if they are not profesionnal journalists).
It's perfectly OK to use an anonymous source to bring an information. For instance, it would have been OK to say "According to an anonymous source, Naniwa doesn't GG in practice games". That's an information.
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Lol, I take 2 days off to work hard, and the world turns upside down? LOL
Anyways, if there's a team for SC2 misfits, it should be QxG, so I think this should be good...
EDIT: Also, lol, is Inka deserving of the "Power-Protoss Duo" title?
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On December 09 2011 21:50 ravemir wrote:
EDIT: Also, lol, is Inka deserving of the "Power-Protoss Duo" title?
I think that's Sase they're talking about.
+ Show Spoiler +Sase all-killed TL in their last team battle
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On December 09 2011 21:49 Angel_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 21:46 Nadarath wrote:On December 09 2011 21:02 ch33psh33p wrote:On December 09 2011 20:45 Nadarath wrote:On December 09 2011 20:33 eYeball wrote:On December 09 2011 20:01 dakalro wrote:
LOL, is ESFI's source a shrink, because otherwise its opinion is worthless and it's a dick move to include that part of the quote in the article.
Does ESFI's source have anything to do with Nani in SC2? It sounds more like a guy that knew Nani in WC3 if it's not col, dignitas. I'm curious why didn't they name the organization or anything? Now there's a site I won't be reading anymore. I was starting to think that they will do something nice to scene. But after i read that - "Anonymous source" - I have lost whole respect and interest in their site. What they done is level with tabloid press. It is common strategy to bring readers. Spread some rumors by anonymous source. That is not professional. If they have anonymous source they should go deep into topic and keep looking until they got some source that they can name and some prof - and then make a whole article about it. As for now they came out like bad tabloid - so not gonna read them anymore. You really have no idea what a confidential source is do you. I exactly know what is confidential source... But i object to using that type of information. They would better investigate that matter based on confidential source information and get to the bottom of matter when they can use real names. As it is for now I treat their "confidential source" as rumor spreading. real names = potentially career ending for esfi and the actual source involved. how do you not get that?
How do you not understand getting to the bottom of the matter ? Do not release that sort of statements until you got everything so well prepared that no one is at risk of anything. That is how investigating journalism have always been.
You get to the bottom of everything - you find out everything on the matter at hand. Then you write article about it - in which you can use real names and sources that can be checked out.
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On December 09 2011 21:57 Nadarath wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 21:49 Angel_ wrote:On December 09 2011 21:46 Nadarath wrote:On December 09 2011 21:02 ch33psh33p wrote:On December 09 2011 20:45 Nadarath wrote:On December 09 2011 20:33 eYeball wrote:On December 09 2011 20:01 dakalro wrote:
LOL, is ESFI's source a shrink, because otherwise its opinion is worthless and it's a dick move to include that part of the quote in the article.
Does ESFI's source have anything to do with Nani in SC2? It sounds more like a guy that knew Nani in WC3 if it's not col, dignitas. I'm curious why didn't they name the organization or anything? Now there's a site I won't be reading anymore. I was starting to think that they will do something nice to scene. But after i read that - "Anonymous source" - I have lost whole respect and interest in their site. What they done is level with tabloid press. It is common strategy to bring readers. Spread some rumors by anonymous source. That is not professional. If they have anonymous source they should go deep into topic and keep looking until they got some source that they can name and some prof - and then make a whole article about it. As for now they came out like bad tabloid - so not gonna read them anymore. You really have no idea what a confidential source is do you. I exactly know what is confidential source... But i object to using that type of information. They would better investigate that matter based on confidential source information and get to the bottom of matter when they can use real names. As it is for now I treat their "confidential source" as rumor spreading. real names = potentially career ending for esfi and the actual source involved. how do you not get that? How do you not understand getting to the bottom of the matter ? Do not release that sort of statements until you got everything so well prepared that no one is at risk of anything. That is how investigating journalism have always been. You get to the bottom of everything - you find out everything on the matter at hand. Then you write article about it - in which you can use real names and sources that can be checked out.
no you can't.
it's that simple.
you can fully be at complete understanding of an issue and at the bottom of it and still be in a position where you CAN NOT use people's names.
1. it makes that source not fucking want to talk to esfi ever again, hurting esfi.
2. it directly hurts that source's reputation with EVERYONE AROUND THEM.
you can make the argument that esfi just shouldn't have used the quote at all, but to sit and pretend that they can just freely use names when they have all the information is just naive, or driven by the need to feed on sensationalism and drama, with complete disregard for reality and any sense of professional standard.
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On December 09 2011 22:00 Angel_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 21:57 Nadarath wrote:On December 09 2011 21:49 Angel_ wrote:On December 09 2011 21:46 Nadarath wrote:On December 09 2011 21:02 ch33psh33p wrote:On December 09 2011 20:45 Nadarath wrote:On December 09 2011 20:33 eYeball wrote:On December 09 2011 20:01 dakalro wrote:
LOL, is ESFI's source a shrink, because otherwise its opinion is worthless and it's a dick move to include that part of the quote in the article.
Does ESFI's source have anything to do with Nani in SC2? It sounds more like a guy that knew Nani in WC3 if it's not col, dignitas. I'm curious why didn't they name the organization or anything? Now there's a site I won't be reading anymore. I was starting to think that they will do something nice to scene. But after i read that - "Anonymous source" - I have lost whole respect and interest in their site. What they done is level with tabloid press. It is common strategy to bring readers. Spread some rumors by anonymous source. That is not professional. If they have anonymous source they should go deep into topic and keep looking until they got some source that they can name and some prof - and then make a whole article about it. As for now they came out like bad tabloid - so not gonna read them anymore. You really have no idea what a confidential source is do you. I exactly know what is confidential source... But i object to using that type of information. They would better investigate that matter based on confidential source information and get to the bottom of matter when they can use real names. As it is for now I treat their "confidential source" as rumor spreading. real names = potentially career ending for esfi and the actual source involved. how do you not get that? How do you not understand getting to the bottom of the matter ? Do not release that sort of statements until you got everything so well prepared that no one is at risk of anything. That is how investigating journalism have always been. You get to the bottom of everything - you find out everything on the matter at hand. Then you write article about it - in which you can use real names and sources that can be checked out. no you can't. it's that simple. you can fully be at complete understanding of an issue and at the bottom of it and still be in a position where you CAN NOT use people's names. 1. it makes that source not fucking want to talk to esfi ever again, hurting esfi. 2. it directly hurts that source's reputation with EVERYONE AROUND THEM. you can make the argument that esfi just shouldn't have used the quote at all, but to sit and pretend that they can just freely use names when they have all the information is just naive, or driven by the need to feed on sensationalism and drama, with complete disregard for reality and any sense of professional standard.
To make it easier for you to understand why people rightfully bash ESFI:
"He is the most disrespectful and unprofessional gamer I've ever had to deal with," - is OK to use as an opinion from an anonymous source that's in ESPORTS.
"I truthfully believe he needs to seek professional help." - is downright moronic, wrong on so many levels, including it seems more like malicious intent than trying to bring information. Either the writer and editor is an idiot or he wanted to hurt Naniwa. Bunch of amateurs, really, psych opinion from "a highly credible, high-level member of an organization who has worked directly with NaNiwa in the past" IN ESPORTS, REALLY?!?! they're qualified to make psychological evaluations now? I somehow don't even believe he knows Nani from SC2 or has actually worked with Nani for more than a tournament duration.
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On December 09 2011 22:05 dakalro wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 22:00 Angel_ wrote:On December 09 2011 21:57 Nadarath wrote:On December 09 2011 21:49 Angel_ wrote:On December 09 2011 21:46 Nadarath wrote:On December 09 2011 21:02 ch33psh33p wrote:On December 09 2011 20:45 Nadarath wrote:On December 09 2011 20:33 eYeball wrote:On December 09 2011 20:01 dakalro wrote:
LOL, is ESFI's source a shrink, because otherwise its opinion is worthless and it's a dick move to include that part of the quote in the article.
Does ESFI's source have anything to do with Nani in SC2? It sounds more like a guy that knew Nani in WC3 if it's not col, dignitas. I'm curious why didn't they name the organization or anything? Now there's a site I won't be reading anymore. I was starting to think that they will do something nice to scene. But after i read that - "Anonymous source" - I have lost whole respect and interest in their site. What they done is level with tabloid press. It is common strategy to bring readers. Spread some rumors by anonymous source. That is not professional. If they have anonymous source they should go deep into topic and keep looking until they got some source that they can name and some prof - and then make a whole article about it. As for now they came out like bad tabloid - so not gonna read them anymore. You really have no idea what a confidential source is do you. I exactly know what is confidential source... But i object to using that type of information. They would better investigate that matter based on confidential source information and get to the bottom of matter when they can use real names. As it is for now I treat their "confidential source" as rumor spreading. real names = potentially career ending for esfi and the actual source involved. how do you not get that? How do you not understand getting to the bottom of the matter ? Do not release that sort of statements until you got everything so well prepared that no one is at risk of anything. That is how investigating journalism have always been. You get to the bottom of everything - you find out everything on the matter at hand. Then you write article about it - in which you can use real names and sources that can be checked out. no you can't. it's that simple. you can fully be at complete understanding of an issue and at the bottom of it and still be in a position where you CAN NOT use people's names. 1. it makes that source not fucking want to talk to esfi ever again, hurting esfi. 2. it directly hurts that source's reputation with EVERYONE AROUND THEM. you can make the argument that esfi just shouldn't have used the quote at all, but to sit and pretend that they can just freely use names when they have all the information is just naive, or driven by the need to feed on sensationalism and drama, with complete disregard for reality and any sense of professional standard. To make it easier for you to understand why people rightfully bash ESFI: "He is the most disrespectful and unprofessional gamer I've ever had to deal with," - is OK to use as an opinion from an anonymous source that's in ESPORTS. "I truthfully believe he needs to seek professional help." - is downright moronic, wrong on so many levels, including it seems more like malicious intent than trying to bring information. Either the writer and editor is an idiot or he wanted to hurt Naniwa. Bunch of amateurs, really, psych opinion from "a highly credible, high-level member of an organization who has worked directly with NaNiwa in the past" IN ESPORTS, REALLY?!?! they're qualified to make psychological evaluations now? I somehow don't even believe he knows Nani from SC2 or has actually worked with Nani for more than a tournament duration.
no, to take a quote apart phrase by phrase and say, "oh this person is pretending to be a pschologist now" instead of just, "oh this person is pissed off and using hyperbole to emphasize how they feel", and then to then leap from that to discrediting both anon sources and the article as a whole
is moronic.
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Quantic is for sure the better choice for Naniwa. For myself, I didnt like him in the past but hes crawling back into the range of players I would cheer for in the future. Personal statements from him and little mannered actions like hand shakes after lost matches on Events let his old bm-shit fade more and more.
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IDK maybe Naniwa didn't think Trimaster was good enough of a practiceparter/teammate and i can really see how he'd rather practice with Sase in Quantic. So instead of BMing or hurting Trimaster he instead just threw Col under the buss which would have caused alot less drama for him and everyone else.
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On December 09 2011 22:08 Angel_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 22:05 dakalro wrote:On December 09 2011 22:00 Angel_ wrote:On December 09 2011 21:57 Nadarath wrote:On December 09 2011 21:49 Angel_ wrote:On December 09 2011 21:46 Nadarath wrote:On December 09 2011 21:02 ch33psh33p wrote:On December 09 2011 20:45 Nadarath wrote:On December 09 2011 20:33 eYeball wrote:On December 09 2011 20:01 dakalro wrote:
LOL, is ESFI's source a shrink, because otherwise its opinion is worthless and it's a dick move to include that part of the quote in the article.
Does ESFI's source have anything to do with Nani in SC2? It sounds more like a guy that knew Nani in WC3 if it's not col, dignitas. I'm curious why didn't they name the organization or anything? Now there's a site I won't be reading anymore. I was starting to think that they will do something nice to scene. But after i read that - "Anonymous source" - I have lost whole respect and interest in their site. What they done is level with tabloid press. It is common strategy to bring readers. Spread some rumors by anonymous source. That is not professional. If they have anonymous source they should go deep into topic and keep looking until they got some source that they can name and some prof - and then make a whole article about it. As for now they came out like bad tabloid - so not gonna read them anymore. You really have no idea what a confidential source is do you. I exactly know what is confidential source... But i object to using that type of information. They would better investigate that matter based on confidential source information and get to the bottom of matter when they can use real names. As it is for now I treat their "confidential source" as rumor spreading. real names = potentially career ending for esfi and the actual source involved. how do you not get that? How do you not understand getting to the bottom of the matter ? Do not release that sort of statements until you got everything so well prepared that no one is at risk of anything. That is how investigating journalism have always been. You get to the bottom of everything - you find out everything on the matter at hand. Then you write article about it - in which you can use real names and sources that can be checked out. no you can't. it's that simple. you can fully be at complete understanding of an issue and at the bottom of it and still be in a position where you CAN NOT use people's names. 1. it makes that source not fucking want to talk to esfi ever again, hurting esfi. 2. it directly hurts that source's reputation with EVERYONE AROUND THEM. you can make the argument that esfi just shouldn't have used the quote at all, but to sit and pretend that they can just freely use names when they have all the information is just naive, or driven by the need to feed on sensationalism and drama, with complete disregard for reality and any sense of professional standard. To make it easier for you to understand why people rightfully bash ESFI: "He is the most disrespectful and unprofessional gamer I've ever had to deal with," - is OK to use as an opinion from an anonymous source that's in ESPORTS. "I truthfully believe he needs to seek professional help." - is downright moronic, wrong on so many levels, including it seems more like malicious intent than trying to bring information. Either the writer and editor is an idiot or he wanted to hurt Naniwa. Bunch of amateurs, really, psych opinion from "a highly credible, high-level member of an organization who has worked directly with NaNiwa in the past" IN ESPORTS, REALLY?!?! they're qualified to make psychological evaluations now? I somehow don't even believe he knows Nani from SC2 or has actually worked with Nani for more than a tournament duration. no, to take a quote apart phrase by phrase and say, "oh this person is pretending to be a pschologist now" instead of just, "oh this person is pissed off and using hyperbole to emphasize how they feel", and then to then leap from that to discrediting both anon sources and the article as a whole is moronic.
You are entitled to your opinion. You are free to believe the source was still that pissed with Nani after what probably is years since their last encounter.
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On December 09 2011 22:00 Angel_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 21:57 Nadarath wrote:On December 09 2011 21:49 Angel_ wrote:On December 09 2011 21:46 Nadarath wrote:On December 09 2011 21:02 ch33psh33p wrote:On December 09 2011 20:45 Nadarath wrote:On December 09 2011 20:33 eYeball wrote:On December 09 2011 20:01 dakalro wrote:
LOL, is ESFI's source a shrink, because otherwise its opinion is worthless and it's a dick move to include that part of the quote in the article.
Does ESFI's source have anything to do with Nani in SC2? It sounds more like a guy that knew Nani in WC3 if it's not col, dignitas. I'm curious why didn't they name the organization or anything? Now there's a site I won't be reading anymore. I was starting to think that they will do something nice to scene. But after i read that - "Anonymous source" - I have lost whole respect and interest in their site. What they done is level with tabloid press. It is common strategy to bring readers. Spread some rumors by anonymous source. That is not professional. If they have anonymous source they should go deep into topic and keep looking until they got some source that they can name and some prof - and then make a whole article about it. As for now they came out like bad tabloid - so not gonna read them anymore. You really have no idea what a confidential source is do you. I exactly know what is confidential source... But i object to using that type of information. They would better investigate that matter based on confidential source information and get to the bottom of matter when they can use real names. As it is for now I treat their "confidential source" as rumor spreading. real names = potentially career ending for esfi and the actual source involved. how do you not get that? How do you not understand getting to the bottom of the matter ? Do not release that sort of statements until you got everything so well prepared that no one is at risk of anything. That is how investigating journalism have always been. You get to the bottom of everything - you find out everything on the matter at hand. Then you write article about it - in which you can use real names and sources that can be checked out. no you can't. it's that simple. you can fully be at complete understanding of an issue and at the bottom of it and still be in a position where you CAN NOT use people's names. 1. it makes that source not fucking want to talk to esfi ever again, hurting esfi. 2. it directly hurts that source's reputation with EVERYONE AROUND THEM. you can make the argument that esfi just shouldn't have used the quote at all, but to sit and pretend that they can just freely use names when they have all the information is just naive, or driven by the need to feed on sensationalism and drama, with complete disregard for reality and any sense of professional standard.
Sure I get your point. But the thing it - that statesmen was on ESFI just hours after official information. Plus I find it offensive to state that Naniwa need mental help. No one no matter how high in his own mind and real position is should say like that and say its anonymous. It is by definition internet trolling. It is like me saying that you Angel_ would need mental help. It is bad and it is rumor and because of that i wont change my opinion until there is full article with every detail released.
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Even though that article might not be the best article, at least we have articles to disagree with now:D
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Brazil5776 Posts
Aw man, sad about complexity losing such a great player ...
Quantic's lineup looking mighty strong now!
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Why do people care about what ESFI said? It's obviously lies. I can say I know someone who worked with Idra for 5years and he used to rape and murders poor girls. I don't have any proof what so ever, I won't reveal the source. Just take my word for it plz
/anonymous of ESFI
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On December 09 2011 22:08 Angel_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 22:05 dakalro wrote:On December 09 2011 22:00 Angel_ wrote:On December 09 2011 21:57 Nadarath wrote:On December 09 2011 21:49 Angel_ wrote:On December 09 2011 21:46 Nadarath wrote:On December 09 2011 21:02 ch33psh33p wrote:On December 09 2011 20:45 Nadarath wrote:On December 09 2011 20:33 eYeball wrote:On December 09 2011 20:01 dakalro wrote:
LOL, is ESFI's source a shrink, because otherwise its opinion is worthless and it's a dick move to include that part of the quote in the article.
Does ESFI's source have anything to do with Nani in SC2? It sounds more like a guy that knew Nani in WC3 if it's not col, dignitas. I'm curious why didn't they name the organization or anything? Now there's a site I won't be reading anymore. I was starting to think that they will do something nice to scene. But after i read that - "Anonymous source" - I have lost whole respect and interest in their site. What they done is level with tabloid press. It is common strategy to bring readers. Spread some rumors by anonymous source. That is not professional. If they have anonymous source they should go deep into topic and keep looking until they got some source that they can name and some prof - and then make a whole article about it. As for now they came out like bad tabloid - so not gonna read them anymore. You really have no idea what a confidential source is do you. I exactly know what is confidential source... But i object to using that type of information. They would better investigate that matter based on confidential source information and get to the bottom of matter when they can use real names. As it is for now I treat their "confidential source" as rumor spreading. real names = potentially career ending for esfi and the actual source involved. how do you not get that? How do you not understand getting to the bottom of the matter ? Do not release that sort of statements until you got everything so well prepared that no one is at risk of anything. That is how investigating journalism have always been. You get to the bottom of everything - you find out everything on the matter at hand. Then you write article about it - in which you can use real names and sources that can be checked out. no you can't. it's that simple. you can fully be at complete understanding of an issue and at the bottom of it and still be in a position where you CAN NOT use people's names. 1. it makes that source not fucking want to talk to esfi ever again, hurting esfi. 2. it directly hurts that source's reputation with EVERYONE AROUND THEM. you can make the argument that esfi just shouldn't have used the quote at all, but to sit and pretend that they can just freely use names when they have all the information is just naive, or driven by the need to feed on sensationalism and drama, with complete disregard for reality and any sense of professional standard. To make it easier for you to understand why people rightfully bash ESFI: "He is the most disrespectful and unprofessional gamer I've ever had to deal with," - is OK to use as an opinion from an anonymous source that's in ESPORTS. "I truthfully believe he needs to seek professional help." - is downright moronic, wrong on so many levels, including it seems more like malicious intent than trying to bring information. Either the writer and editor is an idiot or he wanted to hurt Naniwa. Bunch of amateurs, really, psych opinion from "a highly credible, high-level member of an organization who has worked directly with NaNiwa in the past" IN ESPORTS, REALLY?!?! they're qualified to make psychological evaluations now? I somehow don't even believe he knows Nani from SC2 or has actually worked with Nani for more than a tournament duration. no, to take a quote apart phrase by phrase and say, "oh this person is pretending to be a pschologist now" instead of just, "oh this person is pissed off and using hyperbole to emphasize how they feel", and then to then leap from that to discrediting both anon sources and the article as a whole is moronic.
A article using anonymous quotes with hyperboles is pretty bad in itself. You can't really know what the person in the quote actually thinks by that quote. Is he upset, is he vengeful or does he actually think Naniwa needs psycological help? It ads nothing to the article and since we pretty much know nothing about when they have worked together or in what capacity it's just a bad quote and should discredit both the source and the article. It's what you can expect from bad tabloids, not serious news articles.
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I may come off as a cold person in interviews and with the way I act in general, but I get lonely quite easily.
Aww Naniwa :3
Good to know that there weren't really any big problems in switching teams though
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quite a disrespectful disgrace from ESFI to bring anonymous opinions typical journalistic sensationalism , they arent even providing new information we already KNEW that Naniwa was hard to work with this is just simple bashing
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On December 09 2011 22:24 nihlon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 22:08 Angel_ wrote:On December 09 2011 22:05 dakalro wrote:On December 09 2011 22:00 Angel_ wrote:On December 09 2011 21:57 Nadarath wrote:On December 09 2011 21:49 Angel_ wrote:On December 09 2011 21:46 Nadarath wrote:On December 09 2011 21:02 ch33psh33p wrote:On December 09 2011 20:45 Nadarath wrote:On December 09 2011 20:33 eYeball wrote:
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I'm curious why didn't they name the organization or anything?
Now there's a site I won't be reading anymore. I was starting to think that they will do something nice to scene. But after i read that - "Anonymous source" - I have lost whole respect and interest in their site. What they done is level with tabloid press. It is common strategy to bring readers. Spread some rumors by anonymous source. That is not professional. If they have anonymous source they should go deep into topic and keep looking until they got some source that they can name and some prof - and then make a whole article about it. As for now they came out like bad tabloid - so not gonna read them anymore. You really have no idea what a confidential source is do you. I exactly know what is confidential source... But i object to using that type of information. They would better investigate that matter based on confidential source information and get to the bottom of matter when they can use real names. As it is for now I treat their "confidential source" as rumor spreading. real names = potentially career ending for esfi and the actual source involved. how do you not get that? How do you not understand getting to the bottom of the matter ? Do not release that sort of statements until you got everything so well prepared that no one is at risk of anything. That is how investigating journalism have always been. You get to the bottom of everything - you find out everything on the matter at hand. Then you write article about it - in which you can use real names and sources that can be checked out. no you can't. it's that simple. you can fully be at complete understanding of an issue and at the bottom of it and still be in a position where you CAN NOT use people's names. 1. it makes that source not fucking want to talk to esfi ever again, hurting esfi. 2. it directly hurts that source's reputation with EVERYONE AROUND THEM. you can make the argument that esfi just shouldn't have used the quote at all, but to sit and pretend that they can just freely use names when they have all the information is just naive, or driven by the need to feed on sensationalism and drama, with complete disregard for reality and any sense of professional standard. To make it easier for you to understand why people rightfully bash ESFI: "He is the most disrespectful and unprofessional gamer I've ever had to deal with," - is OK to use as an opinion from an anonymous source that's in ESPORTS. "I truthfully believe he needs to seek professional help." - is downright moronic, wrong on so many levels, including it seems more like malicious intent than trying to bring information. Either the writer and editor is an idiot or he wanted to hurt Naniwa. Bunch of amateurs, really, psych opinion from "a highly credible, high-level member of an organization who has worked directly with NaNiwa in the past" IN ESPORTS, REALLY?!?! they're qualified to make psychological evaluations now? I somehow don't even believe he knows Nani from SC2 or has actually worked with Nani for more than a tournament duration. no, to take a quote apart phrase by phrase and say, "oh this person is pretending to be a pschologist now" instead of just, "oh this person is pissed off and using hyperbole to emphasize how they feel", and then to then leap from that to discrediting both anon sources and the article as a whole is moronic. A article using anonymous quotes with hyperboles is pretty bad in itself. You can't really know what the person in the quote actually thinks by that quote. Is he upset, is he vengeful or does he actually think Naniwa needs psycological help? It ads nothing to the article and since we pretty much know nothing about when they have worked together or in what capacity it's just a bad quote and should discredit both the source and the article. It's what you can expect from bad tabloids, not serious news articles.
i'll happily give you that.
but then it's the issue that they shouldn't be using controversial quotes from anonymous sources period, not that quotes from anonymous sources are always un-credible with complete disregard for the reason why some things obviously need to be anonymous.
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Embarrassing that our only non-affiliated news source wants to be TMZ.
I love your interviews and style ESFI.... but why would you ever use an anonymous quote saying he needs treatment? That is fucking ridiculous. This is yellow journalism at its finest. I am very happy to see the backlash against the article from ESFI. At least now they know we want at least a tiny bit of credibility in our news, not just 100% say whatever the fuck you want that catches attention. Its like they just took the flavor of the week topic (unbiased news reporting in the E-Sports world) and ran with it.
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On December 09 2011 22:42 careohx wrote:
quite a disrespectful disgrace from ESFI to bring anonymous opinions typical journalistic sensationalism , they arent even providing new information we already KNEW that Naniwa was hard to work with this is just simple bashing
Every newspaper (quality, no quality, shit quality and bullshit quality) has used anonymous sources at one time or another. And every newspapers brings in opinions in some articles.
Newspapers protect their sources like a leprechaun protecting it's pot of gold.
It's true though, the article does have some sensationalism. But, if you want SC2 to be big and huge, you have to accept the less cool stuff.
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