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Please make sure to read the statement from Naniwa that is linked in the full article before commenting. | ||
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Puph
Canada635 Posts
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Elem
Sweden4717 Posts
Glad that NaNi tries to find something that truly suits him. QuanticNaNi sounds kinda bad though...D: | ||
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Hydroxyl
206 Posts
On December 09 2011 11:43 aMies wrote: Before this statement goes any further, we are in no way associated with ESFI's operations. Apart from your reaction whose content doesn't surprise me considering your role here, as Complexity and ESFI share a major sponsor, esport is relatively young and still under a lead weight, when it comes down to the relation between sponsorship and journalism. As being said by multiple inside actors of the starcraft 2 scene on internet shows, independant journalism still doesn't exist, not only for websites directly sponsorised or sharing sponsors, but also for the mere reason that starcraft 2 scene is a small world, if you start making bad publicity to someone that has no direct or indirect relationship to your own website, you may start being boycotted, and your business, as starcraft 2 esport is still very young and weak, making a business into it depends on alot of things, may fall as fast as it came. ESFI, in a place where anyone could easily, because it doesn't cost alot of ressources to put up the content they produce at the moment compared to the success it grants, couldn't want to hinder their chances of success by voicing themselves against the triumvirate of teams, sponsors and shoutcasters, and taking the risk of being replaced by another self proclamed independant journalism esport content producer that would be more friendly with the teams and sponsors that would send them players to make their interviews. That's the reason why ESFI is actually so shy about showing where comes from their founds, since their success is still recent as a production, like many of nowaday's starcraft 2 productions, as you will have difficulties as a novice to find on their website what are their sponsors, whereas they claim everywhere on it that they are an "unbiased and undependant organisation", yet it is what they by definition aren't: they want to, for it is financially advantageous to them, wear two hats. It is understandable for someone that would decide to build up a website in such a fragile and growing market to make this choice of a business model, but then let's say it the way it is, and not make up labels and bring up secret sources. | ||
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Asrathiel
Australia377 Posts
GL to Naniwa and Quantic :D | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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synapse
China13814 Posts
I think the reasons Naniwa gave were reasonable enough... | ||
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DreamChaser
1649 Posts
Wonder if this has anything to do with "Controversy" surrounding Naniwa since providence. | ||
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Piledriver
United States1697 Posts
On December 09 2011 11:49 Spicy_Curry wrote: According to an anonymous source you are lying. HMM i dont know who to believe now. Maybe you should get an editor like most journalism oriented business'? User was temp banned for this post. Do you actually read any newspapers or sites outside of e-sports ones? Seriously? Reputed journals and newspapers use anonymous sources ALL THE TIME, especially to protect the identity of the source. I mean NaNiwa is such a successful player that if some other player came out and said his feelings openly about NaNiwa, the community would roast that source alive. The SC2 community (and gaming community in general) are usually full of fairweather fans. People support and cheer for successful people, even if they have some fundamental faults in their attitude and overall behavior (like IdrA for instance). I come from a wc3 background where NaNiwa's BM was well known to the entire community, so I for one am not surprised by that particular statement. In fact, I would go as far as to say if NaNiwa didn't have as much success as he has had (like Major), I guarantee that there would be a bunch of people hating on him, instead of everyone trying to support him and calling out ESFI. The situation would be totally reversed. Now, am not going to say that whatever is posted on ESFI is gospel truth. But I would assume that people are going to look at things a bit more objectively, instead of blindly supporting their favorite player. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
EDIT: lol, misread article. lawl, srrry guiz! | ||
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ronpaul012
United States769 Posts
On December 09 2011 12:54 wei2coolman wrote: I actually sort of saw this happening... Naniwa's plan is to be in kroea for a long time, but ever since the whole quantic IM thing didn't work out, I didn't really see Naniwa gaining anything from Quantic, in terms of partnership. You do realize that Naniwa is going to quantic not from quantic right? | ||
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Piledriver
United States1697 Posts
On December 09 2011 12:54 wei2coolman wrote: I actually sort of saw this happening... Naniwa's plan is to be in kroea for a long time, but ever since the whole quantic IM thing didn't work out, I didn't really see Naniwa gaining anything from Quantic, in terms of partnership. Wut? That post made no sense considering that he just switched from Complexity to Quantic :D | ||
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
On December 09 2011 13:08 Piledriver wrote: Wut? That post made no sense considering that he just switched from Complexity to Quantic :D Ya I was wondering about that myself. Anyways, I think it's a matter of Complexity knowing Nani isn't going to fit with the team, and rather than keep a disgruntled unhappy player they'll try to at least sell him off to another team. | ||
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Gwypaas
Sweden41 Posts
On December 09 2011 12:49 Piledriver wrote: Do you actually read any newspapers or sites outside of e-sports ones? Seriously? Reputed journals and newspapers use anonymous sources ALL THE TIME, especially to protect the identity of the source. I mean NaNiwa is such a successful player that if some other player came out and said his feelings openly about NaNiwa, the community would roast that source alive. The SC2 community (and gaming community in general) are usually full of fairweather fans. People support and cheer for successful people, even if they have some fundamental faults in their attitude and overall behavior (like IdrA for instance). I come from a wc3 background where NaNiwa's BM was well known to the entire community, so I for one am not surprised by that particular statement. In fact, I would go as far as to say if NaNiwa didn't have as much success as he has had (like Major), I guarantee that there would be a bunch of people hating on him, instead of everyone trying to support him and calling out ESFI. The situation would be totally reversed. Now, am not going to say that whatever is posted on ESFI is gospel truth. But I would assume that people are going to look at things a bit more objectively, instead of blindly supporting their favorite player. There's a difference, most anonymous sources on newspapers provide enough evidence, detail and background info to make it beliavable while this statement is just slander. | ||
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Piledriver
United States1697 Posts
On December 09 2011 13:15 Gwypaas wrote: There's a difference, most anonymous sources on newspapers provide enough evidence, detail and background info to make it beliavable while this statement is just slander. That's actually a good point. That particular statement in that article served no purpose other than discrediting NaNiwa  . However my point is that there is no need to bash ESFI for publishing the views of an anonymous insider. | ||
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Clbull
United Kingdom1439 Posts
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Girit
United States24 Posts
I'm only a gold player though.  grats on contract though | ||
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Parcelleus
Australia1662 Posts
Teams do NOT win 1v1. a player does. It seems teams ignore this basic important fact. Naniwa is an individual, he plays 1v1 at toplevel, just support him and drop the 'demands'. Teams are there to support the player and the player brings attention to their team and sponsors. Anything else is just a team who doesn't understand who the real boss is, the player. | ||
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dnld12
United States324 Posts
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synaptik
Canada644 Posts
On December 09 2011 11:49 magnaflow wrote: This is so stupid. I myself am an asshole at work, I give my management a hard time etc etc, I was told certain things would happen when I was hired and if I didn't see these things happening I would bitch to management about it. I might be a pain in the ass but I know they won't fire me and the reason for that is I am a hard worker and do a better job then anyone else at my workplace. Sure they might have to put up with my bull shit from time to time but they realize they can't find anyone better and my absence would be a bigger issue then my attitude. Complexity just doesn't wanna deal with a disgruntled employee even though he is better then everyone else at his job, so they pass him off to the highest bidder.. who will now benefit greatly while they sit back and emjoy their second tier team. this is because you're not a visible public figure for your company. otherwise you would have been fired in an instant. | ||
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v1dom
159 Posts
On December 09 2011 13:28 Parcelleus wrote: Teams need to stop thinking that once they 'acquire' a player it is their 'job' to change them. Teams do NOT win 1v1. a player does. It seems teams ignore this basic important fact. Naniwa is an individual, he plays 1v1 at toplevel, just support him and drop the 'demands'. Teams are there to support the player and the player brings attention to their team and sponsors. Anything else is just a team who doesn't understand who the real boss is, the player. This is honestly the dumbest thing I've ever read on this website. | ||
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