EPTComplexity transfers NaNiwa to Quantic Gaming - Page 38
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llKenZyll
United States853 Posts
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TemplarCo.
Mexico2870 Posts
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careohx
263 Posts
On December 09 2011 11:08 Full.tilt wrote: That is so fucking pathetic to put in an anonymous source like that who is not related to any of the organisations involved. May as well take a quote from some random troll on TL... Exactly i was used to higher quality articles on ESFI. And concerning Naniwa i think its complexiy gaming's loss. The greatest minds are often crazy, you want to be the best team you want wolves not sheep. | ||
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Brainfart
Germany91 Posts
On December 09 2011 11:08 TheAmazombie wrote: This is a bit overblown...how often to major, credible news souces cite "unnamed" and "anonymous" sources? All the time actually. Also, just because they name someone does not always add credit either. It just means to have to take it for the rumor it is, that is a lot of times how journalism works. I am not saying it is right, but it is what it is. You said it yourself. This site isn´t a "major, credible" (journalistic) news source. And they don´t try to make it sound like a rumor but like a proven fact. This is indeed one of the worst articles to read, at least this part of it. The rest sounds ok, backed up with information and reliable sources, take it like you want. But the said part is just completely unprofessional. | ||
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Longshank
1648 Posts
On December 09 2011 11:05 Spicy_Curry wrote: Using an anonymous source in an article completely discredits whoever edits the ESFI stories. Without a source who is willing to go on record you have nothing. What that basically means is that ESFI's journalist took a literal dump on Naniwa. For all we know that anonymous source could be the writer. How can he call himself a journalist, A statement like that CANNOT be made without having someone go on record. According to JP Odee and Jason Lake said pretty much the exact same thing. Add to that tournament organizers in Sweden refusing to work with him. Sure it doesn't add credibility to the article but that doesn't make it wrong. If ten thousand people tell you you are fat, chances are that you are fat. | ||
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Brainfart
Germany91 Posts
On December 09 2011 11:20 Longshank wrote: According to JP Odee and Jason Lake said pretty much the exact same thing. Add to that tournament organizers in Sweden refusing to work with him. Sure it doesn't add credibility to the article but that doesn't make it wrong. If ten thousand people tell you you are fat, chances are that you are fat. There is a nice experiment. Basically what it does: if enough people tell you you are fat, you tend to believe it, wether you are fat or not.. | ||
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catabowl
United States815 Posts
That's why I think he keeps moving teams. | ||
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RudePlague
Great Britain113 Posts
"Some guy said Naniwa is a p.o.s." I counter with "I heard from an anonymous source that ESFI is in the pocket of coL and is staffed by terrible writers with no morals who should be ashamed to call themselves journalists." I hope the community really goes to town on them for this as it's not good enough and we shouldn't accept it regardless of what we think about Naniwa. | ||
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FXOpen
Australia1844 Posts
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
On December 09 2011 11:20 Longshank wrote: According to JP Odee and Jason Lake said pretty much the exact same thing. Add to that tournament organizers in Sweden refusing to work with him. Sure it doesn't add credibility to the article but that doesn't make it wrong. If ten thousand people tell you you are fat, chances are that you are fat. Can you cite where Complexity and DIgnitas have officially stated that naniwa needs mental help? If they have im wrong but if they havent then you are assuming. Saying pretty much the same thing and saying the same thing are two completely different things and it does make it wrong. Im not arguing whether or not it IS WRONG OR NOT. Hell all the evidence points to them being correct, its just the way they display the information is completely retarded. | ||
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Krogan
Sweden375 Posts
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pPingu
Switzerland2892 Posts
On December 09 2011 11:29 Krogan wrote: Does Complexity have any top level players left now? It's interesting that they say they are committed to sc2 but have really no top players. Here is the team roster http://www.complexitygaming.com/roster/ | ||
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v1dom
159 Posts
On December 09 2011 11:26 RudePlague wrote: The anonymous source thing is borderline slander, it offers no information and is at best just gossip spreading. "Some guy said Naniwa is a p.o.s." I counter with "I heard from an anonymous source that ESFI is in the pocket of coL and is staffed by terrible writers with no morals who should be ashamed to call themselves journalists." I hope the community really goes to town on them for this as it's not good enough and we shouldn't accept it regardless of what we think about Naniwa. Maybe I'll get some flak for this, and I'll preface by saying that I do not know Naniwa personally, but it has been well known since his Warcraft 3 days, by most people who follow "behind the scenes" (i.e. team managers and owners), that Nani is one of the most bad mannered and pain in the ass players to deal with from a management standpoint. You can call it rumor, gossip, slander, whatever you like. Go back and read the dignitas release notice, and now Complexity's. They aren't worded like that by accident. People in the know knew about his "issues" when Starcraft II was still a dream of the BW fanboy, and not much has changed since. | ||
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skatbone
United States1005 Posts
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Goibon
New Zealand8185 Posts
I hope the scene can sooner rather than later stabilise, and i can actually look at a team name and be able to name most if not every player on the roster. Some day. GL HF to all involved though. And i hope to see Naniwa casting more KSL in future >_> | ||
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Hydroxyl
206 Posts
On December 09 2011 11:26 RudePlague wrote: The anonymous source thing is borderline slander, it offers no information and is at best just gossip spreading. "Some guy said Naniwa is a p.o.s." I counter with "I heard from an anonymous source that ESFI is in the pocket of coL and is staffed by terrible writers with no morals who should be ashamed to call themselves journalists." I hope the community really goes to town on them for this as it's not good enough and we shouldn't accept it regardless of what we think about Naniwa. Considering ESFI has Complexity ads on every page of their website I'm not surprised to see them releasing such "unbiased" articles featuring "secret informations"... | ||
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Falcor
Canada894 Posts
On December 09 2011 11:29 Krogan wrote: Does Complexity have any top level players left now? It's interesting that they say they are committed to sc2 but have really no top players. its hard to get top players when alot of them are under contract. THey have to wait for contracts to expire before they can pick up some big names. Notice how tho like any foreigner that shows promise they pick up right away? | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45028 Posts
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kittensrcute
United States617 Posts
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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