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Complexity transfers NaNiwa to Quantic Gaming - Page 38

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Please make sure to read the statement from Naniwa that is linked in the full article before commenting.
llKenZyll
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States853 Posts
December 09 2011 02:10 GMT
#741
He did it for SaSe, I hear.
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/nd6nd/tang_in_his_natural_habitat/
TemplarCo.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico2870 Posts
December 09 2011 02:11 GMT
#742
What?!? Naniwa is on a roller coaster of teams, good luck to Naniwa!
With an average game length of 7m36s over his 6 games in GSL3, this is a no-brainer. BitByBit pulls more SCVs than yo momma at a club on Mar Sara. ♞
careohx
Profile Joined June 2011
263 Posts
December 09 2011 02:11 GMT
#743
On December 09 2011 11:08 Full.tilt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 10:45 leperphilliac wrote:
Hm ESFI recently published their article on the whole transfer thing.

http://esfiworld.com/sc2/news/complexity-sells-naniwa-contract-quantic

Of particular interest is the anonymous source that says Naniwa is extremely hard to work with and believes that he actually needs professional help. In Korea when I lived there clinical therapy wasn't very common, so I don't think Naniwa will have any opportunity get professional help there. Maybe being with Sase will stabilize him somewhat?


That is so fucking pathetic to put in an anonymous source like that who is not related to any of the organisations involved. May as well take a quote from some random troll on TL...


Exactly i was used to higher quality articles on ESFI. And concerning Naniwa i think its complexiy gaming's loss. The greatest minds are often crazy, you want to be the best team you want wolves not sheep.
Brainfart
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany91 Posts
December 09 2011 02:19 GMT
#744
On December 09 2011 11:08 TheAmazombie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 11:05 Spicy_Curry wrote:
On December 09 2011 10:55 Maenander wrote:
On December 09 2011 10:45 leperphilliac wrote:
Hm ESFI recently published their article on the whole transfer thing.

http://esfiworld.com/sc2/news/complexity-sells-naniwa-contract-quantic

Of particular interest is the anonymous source that says Naniwa is extremely hard to work with and believes that he actually needs professional help. In Korea when I lived there clinical therapy wasn't very common, so I don't think Naniwa will have any opportunity get professional help there. Maybe being with Sase will stabilize him somewhat?


It could have been a nice article without an anonymous informer slinging mud, "he needs to seek professional help" sounds more like standard internet flaming than an informed opinion.


Using an anonymous source in an article completely discredits whoever edits the ESFI stories. Without a source who is willing to go on record you have nothing. What that basically means is that ESFI's journalist took a literal dump on Naniwa. For all we know that anonymous source could be the writer. How can he call himself a journalist, A statement like that CANNOT be made without having someone go on record.


This is a bit overblown...how often to major, credible news souces cite "unnamed" and "anonymous" sources? All the time actually. Also, just because they name someone does not always add credit either.

It just means to have to take it for the rumor it is, that is a lot of times how journalism works. I am not saying it is right, but it is what it is.



You said it yourself. This site isn´t a "major, credible" (journalistic) news source. And they don´t try to make it sound like a rumor but like a proven fact. This is indeed one of the worst articles to read, at least this part of it. The rest sounds ok, backed up with information and reliable sources, take it like you want.
But the said part is just completely unprofessional.
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
December 09 2011 02:20 GMT
#745
On December 09 2011 11:05 Spicy_Curry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 10:55 Maenander wrote:
On December 09 2011 10:45 leperphilliac wrote:
Hm ESFI recently published their article on the whole transfer thing.

http://esfiworld.com/sc2/news/complexity-sells-naniwa-contract-quantic

Of particular interest is the anonymous source that says Naniwa is extremely hard to work with and believes that he actually needs professional help. In Korea when I lived there clinical therapy wasn't very common, so I don't think Naniwa will have any opportunity get professional help there. Maybe being with Sase will stabilize him somewhat?


It could have been a nice article without an anonymous informer slinging mud, "he needs to seek professional help" sounds more like standard internet flaming than an informed opinion.


Using an anonymous source in an article completely discredits whoever edits the ESFI stories. Without a source who is willing to go on record you have nothing. What that basically means is that ESFI's journalist took a literal dump on Naniwa. For all we know that anonymous source could be the writer. How can he call himself a journalist, A statement like that CANNOT be made without having someone go on record.


According to JP Odee and Jason Lake said pretty much the exact same thing. Add to that tournament organizers in Sweden refusing to work with him. Sure it doesn't add credibility to the article but that doesn't make it wrong. If ten thousand people tell you you are fat, chances are that you are fat.
Brainfart
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany91 Posts
December 09 2011 02:24 GMT
#746
On December 09 2011 11:20 Longshank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 11:05 Spicy_Curry wrote:
On December 09 2011 10:55 Maenander wrote:
On December 09 2011 10:45 leperphilliac wrote:
Hm ESFI recently published their article on the whole transfer thing.

http://esfiworld.com/sc2/news/complexity-sells-naniwa-contract-quantic

Of particular interest is the anonymous source that says Naniwa is extremely hard to work with and believes that he actually needs professional help. In Korea when I lived there clinical therapy wasn't very common, so I don't think Naniwa will have any opportunity get professional help there. Maybe being with Sase will stabilize him somewhat?


It could have been a nice article without an anonymous informer slinging mud, "he needs to seek professional help" sounds more like standard internet flaming than an informed opinion.


Using an anonymous source in an article completely discredits whoever edits the ESFI stories. Without a source who is willing to go on record you have nothing. What that basically means is that ESFI's journalist took a literal dump on Naniwa. For all we know that anonymous source could be the writer. How can he call himself a journalist, A statement like that CANNOT be made without having someone go on record.


According to JP Odee and Jason Lake said pretty much the exact same thing. Add to that tournament organizers in Sweden refusing to work with him. Sure it doesn't add credibility to the article but that doesn't make it wrong. If ten thousand people tell you you are fat, chances are that you are fat.


There is a nice experiment. Basically what it does: if enough people tell you you are fat, you tend to believe it, wether you are fat or not..


catabowl
Profile Joined November 2009
United States815 Posts
December 09 2011 02:26 GMT
#747
Naniwa just looks awkward when he is interviewed or celebrates a win. I think he has a hard time "fitting" in with most teams.

That's why I think he keeps moving teams.
Jung! Myung! Hoooooooooooooooooon! #TeamPolt
RudePlague
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Great Britain113 Posts
December 09 2011 02:26 GMT
#748
The anonymous source thing is borderline slander, it offers no information and is at best just gossip spreading.

"Some guy said Naniwa is a p.o.s."

I counter with "I heard from an anonymous source that ESFI is in the pocket of coL and is staffed by terrible writers with no morals who should be ashamed to call themselves journalists."

I hope the community really goes to town on them for this as it's not good enough and we shouldn't accept it regardless of what we think about Naniwa.

FXOpen
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1844 Posts
December 09 2011 02:28 GMT
#749
Wow... my brain exploded... (again)
www.twitter.com/FXOpenESports
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
December 09 2011 02:28 GMT
#750
On December 09 2011 11:20 Longshank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 11:05 Spicy_Curry wrote:
On December 09 2011 10:55 Maenander wrote:
On December 09 2011 10:45 leperphilliac wrote:
Hm ESFI recently published their article on the whole transfer thing.

http://esfiworld.com/sc2/news/complexity-sells-naniwa-contract-quantic

Of particular interest is the anonymous source that says Naniwa is extremely hard to work with and believes that he actually needs professional help. In Korea when I lived there clinical therapy wasn't very common, so I don't think Naniwa will have any opportunity get professional help there. Maybe being with Sase will stabilize him somewhat?


It could have been a nice article without an anonymous informer slinging mud, "he needs to seek professional help" sounds more like standard internet flaming than an informed opinion.


Using an anonymous source in an article completely discredits whoever edits the ESFI stories. Without a source who is willing to go on record you have nothing. What that basically means is that ESFI's journalist took a literal dump on Naniwa. For all we know that anonymous source could be the writer. How can he call himself a journalist, A statement like that CANNOT be made without having someone go on record.


According to JP Odee and Jason Lake said pretty much the exact same thing. Add to that tournament organizers in Sweden refusing to work with him. Sure it doesn't add credibility to the article but that doesn't make it wrong. If ten thousand people tell you you are fat, chances are that you are fat.


Can you cite where Complexity and DIgnitas have officially stated that naniwa needs mental help? If they have im wrong but if they havent then you are assuming. Saying pretty much the same thing and saying the same thing are two completely different things and it does make it wrong. Im not arguing whether or not it IS WRONG OR NOT. Hell all the evidence points to them being correct, its just the way they display the information is completely retarded.
High Risk Low Reward
Krogan
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden375 Posts
December 09 2011 02:29 GMT
#751
Does Complexity have any top level players left now? It's interesting that they say they are committed to sc2 but have really no top players.
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
December 09 2011 02:35 GMT
#752
On December 09 2011 11:29 Krogan wrote:
Does Complexity have any top level players left now? It's interesting that they say they are committed to sc2 but have really no top players.


Here is the team roster

http://www.complexitygaming.com/roster/
v1dom
Profile Joined August 2010
159 Posts
December 09 2011 02:36 GMT
#753
On December 09 2011 11:26 RudePlague wrote:
The anonymous source thing is borderline slander, it offers no information and is at best just gossip spreading.

"Some guy said Naniwa is a p.o.s."

I counter with "I heard from an anonymous source that ESFI is in the pocket of coL and is staffed by terrible writers with no morals who should be ashamed to call themselves journalists."

I hope the community really goes to town on them for this as it's not good enough and we shouldn't accept it regardless of what we think about Naniwa.



Maybe I'll get some flak for this, and I'll preface by saying that I do not know Naniwa personally, but it has been well known since his Warcraft 3 days, by most people who follow "behind the scenes" (i.e. team managers and owners), that Nani is one of the most bad mannered and pain in the ass players to deal with from a management standpoint.

You can call it rumor, gossip, slander, whatever you like. Go back and read the dignitas release notice, and now Complexity's. They aren't worded like that by accident. People in the know knew about his "issues" when Starcraft II was still a dream of the BW fanboy, and not much has changed since.
elevengaming / 4Kings - retired
skatbone
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1005 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 02:37:22
December 09 2011 02:37 GMT
#754
Naniwa's statement adds a nice shade of complexity ( =P ) to his character. I appreciate him admitting the need to be around others that he is comfortable with and I see the obvious problem: he likely didn't feel like he was synched up with Complexity given that he wasn't around his teammates. I already love Sase's play and InKa's play. This is a sweet addition.
Mercurial#1193
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
December 09 2011 02:37 GMT
#755
I am sooooooooo over all the team switching. Players are more and more coming across like mercenaries, and teams don't feel like actual teams to me. At the end of the day, as a fan, this has close to zero effect on me. I wish i could care, but i have no reason to. Naniwa gets some new clothes and will change his twitter account name soon yay so exciting.

I hope the scene can sooner rather than later stabilise, and i can actually look at a team name and be able to name most if not every player on the roster. Some day.

GL HF to all involved though. And i hope to see Naniwa casting more KSL in future >_>
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
Hydroxyl
Profile Joined December 2011
206 Posts
December 09 2011 02:37 GMT
#756
On December 09 2011 11:26 RudePlague wrote:
The anonymous source thing is borderline slander, it offers no information and is at best just gossip spreading.

"Some guy said Naniwa is a p.o.s."

I counter with "I heard from an anonymous source that ESFI is in the pocket of coL and is staffed by terrible writers with no morals who should be ashamed to call themselves journalists."

I hope the community really goes to town on them for this as it's not good enough and we shouldn't accept it regardless of what we think about Naniwa.



Considering ESFI has Complexity ads on every page of their website I'm not surprised to see them releasing such "unbiased" articles featuring "secret informations"...
Falcor
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada894 Posts
December 09 2011 02:38 GMT
#757
On December 09 2011 11:29 Krogan wrote:
Does Complexity have any top level players left now? It's interesting that they say they are committed to sc2 but have really no top players.


its hard to get top players when alot of them are under contract. THey have to wait for contracts to expire before they can pick up some big names.

Notice how tho like any foreigner that shows promise they pick up right away?
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46310 Posts
December 09 2011 02:39 GMT
#758
Didn't expect that, but best of luck to Complexity, Quantic, and Naniwa in the future!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
kittensrcute
Profile Joined August 2010
United States617 Posts
December 09 2011 02:40 GMT
#759
Makes a lot of sense with the focus Quantic is putting on Korea since that's where Naniwa wants to be training. Quantic is going to be a force to be reckoned with in 2012.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
December 09 2011 02:42 GMT
#760
Didnt realize he actually had a softer side to him then what he shows off most of the time. Its good that he wanted to be closer to friends and either team is a great place for him, he should do just fine.
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