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Haha, Shh, Bella sickest burn ever.
Mousesport > EG
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if only EG had more then 3 player, it could be a good rivalry 
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Wow, mouz pwned EG so easily :D
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On December 04 2011 04:23 snowroller1 wrote:
stop ruining esports
How? Stop posting horribly.
On December 04 2011 04:15 dignitasNewmaN wrote:This reminds me of this.
LOL!!!! That is way toooooo funny! xD
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On December 04 2011 04:34 Loki57 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 04:26 n00b3rt wrote:
LOL @ the walkover statement. Last time there was a walkover comment from EG members, a wild smiley face appeared :D Did Hasu make his win a little bit more interesting yesterday, I wasnt able to watch A wild smiley face appeared and then that player disappeared into obscurity as IdrA predicted ;o
I knew my fanboy-trap would work :D
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On December 04 2011 04:21 Bandino wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 04:12 vdale wrote:On December 04 2011 03:39 Bandino wrote:On December 04 2011 03:23 Termit wrote:On December 04 2011 02:38 damod wrote:
lol EG owned Mouz pretty hard xD
sad EG forgot to mention that idrA alone has more stream viewers then any mouz player combined xD
also they have more major tourny wins. Yeah stream viewers is all that matters yoyo! ;PpPppP Say what you want, tell me I'm a stupid EG hater or what ever but the fact that EG has many stream viewers doesn't mean shit. They are overhyped as a team and their players are hyped to the skies except HuK who actually deservs the hype he gets because he have taken the tough road in Korea to be the player he is today. He also have one of the best Code S achivements when it comes to Protoss players. So by your logic Mouz is overhyped as a team as well? I mean they can't even get any of their players into Code S! Both teams have very strong players yet EG's players have won more tournaments overall, that is pretty much how I look at it. I don't know if EG has more tournament wins. I think it depends on which tournaments you count in, but mouz has definitely made at least the same amount of pricemoney with less tournament participations (if you count out 100$ cups). (from http://www.mystarcraft.de/de/edb/ranking/prizes, because this site seems to be the most accurate) Huk: ~15k € in EG (~40k € overall) Idra: ~35k € overall (most in EG) Puma: ~ 19k € in EG (~55k € overall) Demuslim: ~1k € in EG ---- ~ 70k € (+ some pricemoney of Incontrol, Machine, etc.) Mouz: Naama: ~15k € overall (most in mouz) Mana: ~25k € overall (all in mouz) Hasuobs: ~16k € overall (all in mouz) Morrow: ~14k € overall (all in mouz) Thorzain: ~19k € overall (all in mouz) ---- ~ 89k € (+ some pricemoney of Strelok and White-Ra before they left mouz) I'm counting out clan leagues, which would again favor mouz. I don't want to shit on EG, I just wanted to show that mouz is pretty successful in tournaments, too. Why are you taking out the money earned by Huk and Puma when they weren't on EG? It's like taking away receivers statistics every time they switch teams or saying, none of Shaq's championships with the Laker's counted once he switched teams. The players on the team make up the team, and what they did in the past, whether when they were on or off of EG, counts as part of their accomplishments. if you think Mouz's players are more accomplished then sure you can think they are the better team. I just prefer looking at larger tournaments such as Dreamhack, IEM, MLG, IPL, etc, not so much weeklies. Sorry for not clarifying.
I figure it is more to show how the players are doing in that team. I mean huk won maybe 20k in liquid, but only 19k in eg or something like that.
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It appears to me that EG likes to pick fights with everyone. Problem is: they never win anything, not even a twitter argument.
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On December 04 2011 04:21 Bandino wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 04:12 vdale wrote:On December 04 2011 03:39 Bandino wrote:On December 04 2011 03:23 Termit wrote:On December 04 2011 02:38 damod wrote:
lol EG owned Mouz pretty hard xD
sad EG forgot to mention that idrA alone has more stream viewers then any mouz player combined xD
also they have more major tourny wins. Yeah stream viewers is all that matters yoyo! ;PpPppP Say what you want, tell me I'm a stupid EG hater or what ever but the fact that EG has many stream viewers doesn't mean shit. They are overhyped as a team and their players are hyped to the skies except HuK who actually deservs the hype he gets because he have taken the tough road in Korea to be the player he is today. He also have one of the best Code S achivements when it comes to Protoss players. So by your logic Mouz is overhyped as a team as well? I mean they can't even get any of their players into Code S! Both teams have very strong players yet EG's players have won more tournaments overall, that is pretty much how I look at it. I don't know if EG has more tournament wins. I think it depends on which tournaments you count in, but mouz has definitely made at least the same amount of pricemoney with less tournament participations (if you count out 100$ cups). (from http://www.mystarcraft.de/de/edb/ranking/prizes, because this site seems to be the most accurate) Huk: ~15k € in EG (~40k € overall) Idra: ~35k € overall (most in EG) Puma: ~ 19k € in EG (~55k € overall) Demuslim: ~1k € in EG ---- ~ 70k € (+ some pricemoney of Incontrol, Machine, etc.) Mouz: Naama: ~15k € overall (most in mouz) Mana: ~25k € overall (all in mouz) Hasuobs: ~16k € overall (all in mouz) Morrow: ~14k € overall (all in mouz) Thorzain: ~19k € overall (all in mouz) ---- ~ 89k € (+ some pricemoney of Strelok and White-Ra before they left mouz) I'm counting out clan leagues, which would again favor mouz. I don't want to shit on EG, I just wanted to show that mouz is pretty successful in tournaments, too. Why are you taking out the money earned by Huk and Puma when they weren't on EG? It's like taking away receivers statistics every time they switch teams or saying, none of Shaq's championships with the Laker's counted once he switched teams. The players on the team make up the team, and what they did in the past, whether when they were on or off of EG, counts as part of their accomplishments. if you think Mouz's players are more accomplished then sure you can think they are the better team. I just prefer looking at larger tournaments such as Dreamhack, IEM, MLG, IPL, etc, not so much weeklies. Sorry for not clarifying.
Dreamhack EG 1 - mouz 1
IEM EG 2 - mouz 1
IPL not counting Idra's win as it was NA only
MLG EG 2 - mouz 0 (well not many mouz players ever attended MLG as it is mostly NA-Korean tournament)
TSL EG 0 - mouz 1
NASL EG 1 - mouz 0
So without MLG it is 4-3 (with 6-3). Dreamhack and NASL were not won by EG player just future EG player, I am not sure about TSL and Thorzain.
As for players mouz has 4 world class players, EG has 3 (4 - once Demuslim starts owning hopefully). So pretty close as far as any hard data go.
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On December 04 2011 04:21 Bandino wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 04:12 vdale wrote:On December 04 2011 03:39 Bandino wrote:On December 04 2011 03:23 Termit wrote:On December 04 2011 02:38 damod wrote:
lol EG owned Mouz pretty hard xD
sad EG forgot to mention that idrA alone has more stream viewers then any mouz player combined xD
also they have more major tourny wins. Yeah stream viewers is all that matters yoyo! ;PpPppP Say what you want, tell me I'm a stupid EG hater or what ever but the fact that EG has many stream viewers doesn't mean shit. They are overhyped as a team and their players are hyped to the skies except HuK who actually deservs the hype he gets because he have taken the tough road in Korea to be the player he is today. He also have one of the best Code S achivements when it comes to Protoss players. So by your logic Mouz is overhyped as a team as well? I mean they can't even get any of their players into Code S! Both teams have very strong players yet EG's players have won more tournaments overall, that is pretty much how I look at it. I don't know if EG has more tournament wins. I think it depends on which tournaments you count in, but mouz has definitely made at least the same amount of pricemoney with less tournament participations (if you count out 100$ cups). (from http://www.mystarcraft.de/de/edb/ranking/prizes, because this site seems to be the most accurate) Huk: ~15k € in EG (~40k € overall) Idra: ~35k € overall (most in EG) Puma: ~ 19k € in EG (~55k € overall) Demuslim: ~1k € in EG ---- ~ 70k € (+ some pricemoney of Incontrol, Machine, etc.) Mouz: Naama: ~15k € overall (most in mouz) Mana: ~25k € overall (all in mouz) Hasuobs: ~16k € overall (all in mouz) Morrow: ~14k € overall (all in mouz) Thorzain: ~19k € overall (all in mouz) ---- ~ 89k € (+ some pricemoney of Strelok and White-Ra before they left mouz) I'm counting out clan leagues, which would again favor mouz. I don't want to shit on EG, I just wanted to show that mouz is pretty successful in tournaments, too. Why are you taking out the money earned by Huk and Puma when they weren't on EG? It's like taking away receivers statistics every time they switch teams or saying, none of Shaq's championships with the Laker's counted once he switched teams. The players on the team make up the team, and what they did in the past, whether when they were on or off of EG, counts as part of their accomplishments. if you think Mouz's players are more accomplished then sure you can think they are the better team. I just prefer looking at larger tournaments such as Dreamhack, IEM, MLG, IPL, etc, not so much weeklies. Sorry for not clarifying.
Because it's about the teams not the players. You can't count the accomplishments of a player he had with a different team towards his new team. It's like saying the Cavaliers have now magically won 4 championships by adding Shaq to their roster.
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On December 04 2011 04:21 Bandino wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 04:12 vdale wrote:On December 04 2011 03:39 Bandino wrote:On December 04 2011 03:23 Termit wrote:On December 04 2011 02:38 damod wrote:
lol EG owned Mouz pretty hard xD
sad EG forgot to mention that idrA alone has more stream viewers then any mouz player combined xD
also they have more major tourny wins. Yeah stream viewers is all that matters yoyo! ;PpPppP Say what you want, tell me I'm a stupid EG hater or what ever but the fact that EG has many stream viewers doesn't mean shit. They are overhyped as a team and their players are hyped to the skies except HuK who actually deservs the hype he gets because he have taken the tough road in Korea to be the player he is today. He also have one of the best Code S achivements when it comes to Protoss players. So by your logic Mouz is overhyped as a team as well? I mean they can't even get any of their players into Code S! Both teams have very strong players yet EG's players have won more tournaments overall, that is pretty much how I look at it. I don't know if EG has more tournament wins. I think it depends on which tournaments you count in, but mouz has definitely made at least the same amount of pricemoney with less tournament participations (if you count out 100$ cups). (from http://www.mystarcraft.de/de/edb/ranking/prizes, because this site seems to be the most accurate) Huk: ~15k € in EG (~40k € overall) Idra: ~35k € overall (most in EG) Puma: ~ 19k € in EG (~55k € overall) Demuslim: ~1k € in EG ---- ~ 70k € (+ some pricemoney of Incontrol, Machine, etc.) Mouz: Naama: ~15k € overall (most in mouz) Mana: ~25k € overall (all in mouz) Hasuobs: ~16k € overall (all in mouz) Morrow: ~14k € overall (all in mouz) Thorzain: ~19k € overall (all in mouz) ---- ~ 89k € (+ some pricemoney of Strelok and White-Ra before they left mouz) I'm counting out clan leagues, which would again favor mouz. I don't want to shit on EG, I just wanted to show that mouz is pretty successful in tournaments, too. Why are you taking out the money earned by Huk and Puma when they weren't on EG? It's like taking away receivers statistics every time they switch teams or saying, none of Shaq's championships with the Laker's counted once he switched teams. The players on the team make up the team, and what they did in the past, whether when they were on or off of EG, counts as part of their accomplishments. if you think Mouz's players are more accomplished then sure you can think they are the better team. I just prefer looking at larger tournaments such as Dreamhack, IEM, MLG, IPL, etc, not so much weeklies. Sorry for not clarifying.
What? Ofc accomplishments dont transfer over to TEAMS. WTF?
When Shaq wins for the Lakers then switches over to someone else Shaq still won, his new team didnt.
Edit: yea what this guy said ^
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On December 04 2011 04:38 n00b3rt wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 04:34 Loki57 wrote:On December 04 2011 04:26 n00b3rt wrote:
LOL @ the walkover statement. Last time there was a walkover comment from EG members, a wild smiley face appeared :D Did Hasu make his win a little bit more interesting yesterday, I wasnt able to watch A wild smiley face appeared and then that player disappeared into obscurity as IdrA predicted ;o I knew my fanboy-trap would work :D
lol you dont need to be a fanboy to say what he said...
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Haha this is pretty hilarious xD
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On December 04 2011 04:47 Galaxy613 wrote:
Haha this is pretty hilarious xD
ninja edit!
^^
mouseports is winning, this is fun!
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On December 03 2011 09:06 naux wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 09:02 Sylverin wrote:On December 03 2011 09:00 naux wrote:On December 03 2011 08:57 tnud wrote:On December 03 2011 08:55 sechkie wrote:On December 03 2011 08:55 naux wrote:
has mouz even won a major tourney?
eg > mouz thorzain tsl I believe.  MorroW  MaNa  ThorZaIN HasuObsThere ya go! ♥ winning against diamond league players and only winning 100 dollars is a major tournament to you? Pretty sure Eg's master cup isnt full of diamond league people but tsl3 lets...see....herrrr.....Boxer Nada MC Naniwa.....k broski you fail :D and didnt mana win a dream hack? or was i hallucinating straight into a GG.. funny mana winning dreamhack? didnt know 2nd place was the same as 1st? and winning a team league tournament with 10 teams is major to you? lol... lets see hmm.... mm.. m.. .. ... . . . . thorzain wins 1 and lets see hmm m m. m... m.m m. oh wait there is nothing else you fail
Mouz still won dreamhack Naama who beat Mana was on Mouz when he won :L
Plus in the Eg Masters cup they beat Eg twice to win both so...... and Eg didnt even come top 4
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On December 04 2011 04:43 Avan wrote:
It appears to me that EG likes to pick fights with everyone. Problem is: they never win anything, not even a twitter argument.
Did you know mouz started it? Did you know its just friendly banter for the mosts part not so drama like fans like you want to make it out to be? :o
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On December 04 2011 04:54 nqqvt3 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 09:06 naux wrote:On December 03 2011 09:02 Sylverin wrote:On December 03 2011 09:00 naux wrote:On December 03 2011 08:57 tnud wrote:On December 03 2011 08:55 sechkie wrote:On December 03 2011 08:55 naux wrote:
has mouz even won a major tourney?
eg > mouz thorzain tsl I believe. MorroW MaNa ThorZaIN HasuObsThere ya go! ♥ winning against diamond league players and only winning 100 dollars is a major tournament to you? Pretty sure Eg's master cup isnt full of diamond league people but tsl3 lets...see....herrrr.....Boxer Nada MC Naniwa.....k broski you fail :D and didnt mana win a dream hack? or was i hallucinating straight into a GG.. funny mana winning dreamhack? didnt know 2nd place was the same as 1st? and winning a team league tournament with 10 teams is major to you? lol... lets see hmm.... mm.. m.. .. ... . . . . thorzain wins 1 and lets see hmm m m. m... m.m m. oh wait there is nothing else you fail Mouz still won dreamhack Naama who beat Mana was on Mouz when he won :L Plus in the Eg Masters cup they beat Eg twice to win both so...... and Eg didnt even come top 4
Morrow also won IEM
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On December 04 2011 04:43 Baum wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 04:21 Bandino wrote:On December 04 2011 04:12 vdale wrote:On December 04 2011 03:39 Bandino wrote:On December 04 2011 03:23 Termit wrote:On December 04 2011 02:38 damod wrote:
lol EG owned Mouz pretty hard xD
sad EG forgot to mention that idrA alone has more stream viewers then any mouz player combined xD
also they have more major tourny wins. Yeah stream viewers is all that matters yoyo! ;PpPppP Say what you want, tell me I'm a stupid EG hater or what ever but the fact that EG has many stream viewers doesn't mean shit. They are overhyped as a team and their players are hyped to the skies except HuK who actually deservs the hype he gets because he have taken the tough road in Korea to be the player he is today. He also have one of the best Code S achivements when it comes to Protoss players. So by your logic Mouz is overhyped as a team as well? I mean they can't even get any of their players into Code S! Both teams have very strong players yet EG's players have won more tournaments overall, that is pretty much how I look at it. I don't know if EG has more tournament wins. I think it depends on which tournaments you count in, but mouz has definitely made at least the same amount of pricemoney with less tournament participations (if you count out 100$ cups). (from http://www.mystarcraft.de/de/edb/ranking/prizes, because this site seems to be the most accurate) Huk: ~15k € in EG (~40k € overall) Idra: ~35k € overall (most in EG) Puma: ~ 19k € in EG (~55k € overall) Demuslim: ~1k € in EG ---- ~ 70k € (+ some pricemoney of Incontrol, Machine, etc.) Mouz: Naama: ~15k € overall (most in mouz) Mana: ~25k € overall (all in mouz) Hasuobs: ~16k € overall (all in mouz) Morrow: ~14k € overall (all in mouz) Thorzain: ~19k € overall (all in mouz) ---- ~ 89k € (+ some pricemoney of Strelok and White-Ra before they left mouz) I'm counting out clan leagues, which would again favor mouz. I don't want to shit on EG, I just wanted to show that mouz is pretty successful in tournaments, too. Why are you taking out the money earned by Huk and Puma when they weren't on EG? It's like taking away receivers statistics every time they switch teams or saying, none of Shaq's championships with the Laker's counted once he switched teams. The players on the team make up the team, and what they did in the past, whether when they were on or off of EG, counts as part of their accomplishments. if you think Mouz's players are more accomplished then sure you can think they are the better team. I just prefer looking at larger tournaments such as Dreamhack, IEM, MLG, IPL, etc, not so much weeklies. Sorry for not clarifying. Because it's about the teams not the players. You can't count the accomplishments of a player he had with a different team towards his new team. It's like saying the Cavaliers have now magically won 4 championships by adding Shaq to their roster.
They haven't won those Championships but they became a better team. (Not really with Shaq since he is washed up but with say Kobe went to the Cavaliers they then would be considered a much better team). Also my basketball analogy is flawed because Basketball teams and SC2 teams are different because SC2 is 1v1 and each player is playing for themselves to win it. That is why I believe you shouldn't take away a players past accomplishments when they change teams, because it is their accomplishment and it transfers over with them when they go to a new team. I don't care if Puma won NASL 1 when he wasn't on EG, it still is part of his accomplishments and therefore EG's accomplishment because he is now on their team. I guess we just look at this differently, and that's fine.
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Judging from this thread, Mouz's biggest achievement is winning the EG Master's Cup twice.
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Mouz won, both in and outside the game.
That Huk upset was really unexpected, I have to say...
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On December 04 2011 04:58 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 04:43 Avan wrote:
It appears to me that EG likes to pick fights with everyone. Problem is: they never win anything, not even a twitter argument. Did you know mouz started it? Did you know its just friendly banter for the mosts part not so drama like fans like you want to make it out to be? :o
And to add, didn't you know that EG does win stuff?
IMO EG won the twitter war here.
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