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I think besides BiGs most 1v1 records between the players favours mouz.
Also mouz has (among others):
1st at IEM Gamescom 2010 (MorroW)
3rd at Homestory Cup 2010 (MorroW)
2nd at Assembly Winter 2011 (MorroW)
4th at Copenhagen Games 2011 (MorroW)
2nd at Dreamhack Winter 2010 (Mana)
3rd at IEM Gamescom 2011 (Mana)
3rd at Homestory Cup 2 (Mana)
2nd at ESWC (Mana)
3rd IPL 2 (Mana)
2nd Assembly Summer (Mana)
4th at IEM Guangzhou (HasuObs)
4th at TSL3 (HasuObs)
2nd at MSI procup (HasoObs)
1st TSL 3 (ThorzaIN)
2nd Dreamhack Valencia (ThorzaIN)
4th at IPL 2 (ThorzaIN)
3rd at European battle.net inv (ThorzaIN)
IMO, this is a pretty impressive list of achievments! Mouz is cleary on of the most underestimated western sc2 teams.
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Mouz is the most talented Team in europe and in the foreign scene. All their players are super scary.
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On December 03 2011 09:06 Seronei wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 09:02 Hnnngg wrote:On December 03 2011 09:00 Seronei wrote:On December 03 2011 08:53 Hnnngg wrote:On December 03 2011 08:49 Lokj wrote:On December 03 2011 08:45 Hnnngg wrote:Maybe if Mouz had anything worth mentioning besides a SC2 team. Maybe. + Show Spoiler + i don't understand?  Mouz has a good (very very good) SC2 team. And that's about it. EG doesn't really have good teams outside of SC2 either. Except possibly their fighting game team. And their 1.6 team and the WoW team and the Dota2 team. Their 1.6 team is the best team in the USA, that doesn't say anything. Wow is dead. Dota2 team hasn't done anything yet?.
Every EG CS team has lost over and over again to mouz for years now by the way.
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People just underestimate mouz because they aren't big flashy trashtalkers who feel the need to draw attention to themselves at every opportunity. They are just fucking good SC2 players.
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On December 03 2011 09:12 Hnnngg wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 09:06 Seronei wrote:On December 03 2011 09:02 Hnnngg wrote:On December 03 2011 09:00 Seronei wrote:On December 03 2011 08:53 Hnnngg wrote:On December 03 2011 08:49 Lokj wrote:On December 03 2011 08:45 Hnnngg wrote:Maybe if Mouz had anything worth mentioning besides a SC2 team. Maybe. + Show Spoiler + i don't understand? Mouz has a good (very very good) SC2 team. And that's about it. EG doesn't really have good teams outside of SC2 either. Except possibly their fighting game team. And their 1.6 team and the WoW team and the Dota2 team. Their 1.6 team is the best team in the USA, that doesn't say anything. Wow is dead. Dota2 team hasn't done anything yet?. Mouz is pretty low-tier in terms of eSports.
more ignorant and uninformed plz
wont go any further into it with you.
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I've always been a big fan of mouz, I heard about them a long ass time ago and only heard of EG with SC2.
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On December 03 2011 09:13 Eee wrote:
I think besides BiGs most 1v1 records between the players favours mouz.
Also mouz has (among others):
1st at IEM Gamescom 2010 (MorroW)
3rd at Homestory Cup 2010 (MorroW)
2nd at Assembly Winter 2011 (MorroW)
4th at Copenhagen Games 2011 (MorroW)
2nd at Dreamhack Winter 2010 (Mana)
3rd at IEM Gamescom 2011 (Mana)
3rd at Homestory Cup 2 (Mana)
2nd at ESWC (Mana)
3rd IPL 2 (Mana)
2nd Assembly Summer (Mana)
4th at IEM Guangzhou (HasuObs)
4th at TSL3 (HasuObs)
2nd at MSI procup (HasoObs)
1st TSL 3 (ThorzaIN)
2nd Dreamhack Valencia (ThorzaIN)
4th at IPL 2 (ThorzaIN)
3rd at European battle.net inv (ThorzaIN)
IMO, this is a pretty impressive list of achievments! Mouz is cleary on of the most underestimated western sc2 teams.
i notice only two 1st place finishes, so i'll match that with EG just to make it more interesting
IEM - idra
MLG - huk
i could add the asus, but that wasnt that big of a tournament
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On December 03 2011 09:12 Hnnngg wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 09:06 Seronei wrote:On December 03 2011 09:02 Hnnngg wrote:On December 03 2011 09:00 Seronei wrote:On December 03 2011 08:53 Hnnngg wrote:On December 03 2011 08:49 Lokj wrote:On December 03 2011 08:45 Hnnngg wrote:Maybe if Mouz had anything worth mentioning besides a SC2 team. Maybe. + Show Spoiler + i don't understand? Mouz has a good (very very good) SC2 team. And that's about it. EG doesn't really have good teams outside of SC2 either. Except possibly their fighting game team. And their 1.6 team and the WoW team and the Dota2 team. Their 1.6 team is the best team in the USA, that doesn't say anything. Wow is dead. Dota2 team hasn't done anything yet?. Doesn't say anything to you. WoW is dead but that doesn't change anything. Dota2 hasn't done anything but the team is still top tier (whereas Mouz has no team). Mouz is pretty low-tier in terms of eSports.
Mouz is actually a pretty well known, and they are pretty successful.
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On December 03 2011 09:13 Eee wrote:
I think besides BiGs most 1v1 records between the players favours mouz.
Also mouz has (among others):
1st at IEM Gamescom 2010 (MorroW)
3rd at Homestory Cup 2010 (MorroW)
2nd at Assembly Winter 2011 (MorroW)
4th at Copenhagen Games 2011 (MorroW)
2nd at Dreamhack Winter 2010 (Mana)
3rd at IEM Gamescom 2011 (Mana)
3rd at Homestory Cup 2 (Mana)
2nd at ESWC (Mana)
3rd IPL 2 (Mana)
2nd Assembly Summer (Mana)
4th at IEM Guangzhou (HasuObs)
4th at TSL3 (HasuObs)
2nd at MSI procup (HasoObs)
1st TSL 3 (ThorzaIN)
2nd Dreamhack Valencia (ThorzaIN)
4th at IPL 2 (ThorzaIN)
3rd at European battle.net inv (ThorzaIN)
IMO, this is a pretty impressive list of achievments! Mouz is cleary on of the most underestimated western sc2 teams.
Sigh.... why WHY do threads like this always have to degenerate into a flame war against the two teams. EG is one of the top NA teams, Mouz is the best European team. They are both really good. The twitter war was supposed to be a fun thing but I guess people always have to make it about who is better.
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On December 03 2011 09:15 teddyoojo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 09:12 Hnnngg wrote:On December 03 2011 09:06 Seronei wrote:On December 03 2011 09:02 Hnnngg wrote:On December 03 2011 09:00 Seronei wrote:On December 03 2011 08:53 Hnnngg wrote:On December 03 2011 08:49 Lokj wrote:On December 03 2011 08:45 Hnnngg wrote:Maybe if Mouz had anything worth mentioning besides a SC2 team. Maybe. + Show Spoiler + i don't understand? Mouz has a good (very very good) SC2 team. And that's about it. EG doesn't really have good teams outside of SC2 either. Except possibly their fighting game team. And their 1.6 team and the WoW team and the Dota2 team. Their 1.6 team is the best team in the USA, that doesn't say anything. Wow is dead. Dota2 team hasn't done anything yet?. Mouz is pretty low-tier in terms of eSports. more ignorant and uninformed plz wont go any further into it with you.
Good post.
"You're just ignorant, won't even waste my breath."
I think you're missing the point of a forum.
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On December 03 2011 09:12 Hnnngg wrote:
Mouz is pretty low-tier in terms of eSports.
Haha, oh wow.
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On December 03 2011 09:08 tehemperorer wrote:
Lame, anyone can win a PvP it seems, that's all that match was proof of. Mouz get off your twitter until you can win a real matchup
He did win. What are you talking about? What exactly is a "real match-up" If anyone can win it, then HuK can, but he didn't. Play to win. Simple
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On December 03 2011 09:16 Elefanto wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 09:12 Hnnngg wrote:On December 03 2011 09:06 Seronei wrote:On December 03 2011 09:02 Hnnngg wrote:On December 03 2011 09:00 Seronei wrote:On December 03 2011 08:53 Hnnngg wrote:On December 03 2011 08:49 Lokj wrote:On December 03 2011 08:45 Hnnngg wrote:Maybe if Mouz had anything worth mentioning besides a SC2 team. Maybe. + Show Spoiler + i don't understand? Mouz has a good (very very good) SC2 team. And that's about it. EG doesn't really have good teams outside of SC2 either. Except possibly their fighting game team. And their 1.6 team and the WoW team and the Dota2 team. Their 1.6 team is the best team in the USA, that doesn't say anything. Wow is dead. Dota2 team hasn't done anything yet?. Doesn't say anything to you. WoW is dead but that doesn't change anything. Dota2 hasn't done anything but the team is still top tier (whereas Mouz has no team). Mouz is pretty low-tier in terms of eSports. Mouz is actually a pretty well known, and they are pretty successful.
in 1.6 and SC2. That's it.
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On December 03 2011 09:15 teddyoojo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 09:12 Hnnngg wrote:On December 03 2011 09:06 Seronei wrote:On December 03 2011 09:02 Hnnngg wrote:On December 03 2011 09:00 Seronei wrote:On December 03 2011 08:53 Hnnngg wrote:On December 03 2011 08:49 Lokj wrote:On December 03 2011 08:45 Hnnngg wrote:Maybe if Mouz had anything worth mentioning besides a SC2 team. Maybe. + Show Spoiler + i don't understand? Mouz has a good (very very good) SC2 team. And that's about it. EG doesn't really have good teams outside of SC2 either. Except possibly their fighting game team. And their 1.6 team and the WoW team and the Dota2 team. Their 1.6 team is the best team in the USA, that doesn't say anything. Wow is dead. Dota2 team hasn't done anything yet?. Mouz is pretty low-tier in terms of eSports. more ignorant and uninformed plz wont go any further into it with you.
...mouz is anything but low-tier. i detect extreme EG bias...
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On December 03 2011 09:16 Hnnngg wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 09:15 teddyoojo wrote:On December 03 2011 09:12 Hnnngg wrote:On December 03 2011 09:06 Seronei wrote:On December 03 2011 09:02 Hnnngg wrote:On December 03 2011 09:00 Seronei wrote:On December 03 2011 08:53 Hnnngg wrote:On December 03 2011 08:49 Lokj wrote:On December 03 2011 08:45 Hnnngg wrote:Maybe if Mouz had anything worth mentioning besides a SC2 team. Maybe. + Show Spoiler + i don't understand? Mouz has a good (very very good) SC2 team. And that's about it. EG doesn't really have good teams outside of SC2 either. Except possibly their fighting game team. And their 1.6 team and the WoW team and the Dota2 team. Their 1.6 team is the best team in the USA, that doesn't say anything. Wow is dead. Dota2 team hasn't done anything yet?. Mouz is pretty low-tier in terms of eSports. more ignorant and uninformed plz wont go any further into it with you. Good post. "You're just ignorant, won't even waste my breath." I think you're missing the point of a forum.
To blindly express your opinion defiantly in the face of logic and facts?
Yup.
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On December 03 2011 09:12 Hnnngg wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 09:06 Seronei wrote:On December 03 2011 09:02 Hnnngg wrote:On December 03 2011 09:00 Seronei wrote:On December 03 2011 08:53 Hnnngg wrote:On December 03 2011 08:49 Lokj wrote:On December 03 2011 08:45 Hnnngg wrote:Maybe if Mouz had anything worth mentioning besides a SC2 team. Maybe. + Show Spoiler + i don't understand? Mouz has a good (very very good) SC2 team. And that's about it. EG doesn't really have good teams outside of SC2 either. Except possibly their fighting game team. And their 1.6 team and the WoW team and the Dota2 team. Their 1.6 team is the best team in the USA, that doesn't say anything. Wow is dead. Dota2 team hasn't done anything yet?. Doesn't say anything to you. WoW is dead but that doesn't change anything. Dota2 hasn't done anything but the team is still top tier (whereas Mouz has no team). Mouz is pretty low-tier in terms of eSports.
Yea, Mouz has also a trackmania team - but who cares?
And the 1.6 Team of Mouz is >>> EG, taking of a map?
And btw :
* zwölffacher deutscher Meister der ESL Pro Series (Seasons I, III, V, VII, IX, XII, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 und 18)
* World Cyber Games 2002: 3. Platz
* CPL Winter 2003: 3. Platz
* World e-Sports Games 2005 Season 1: 3. Platz
* Electronic Sports World Cup 2005: 3. Platz
* ESL Intel Extreme Masters II: 1. Platz
* ESWC Masters of Paris 2008: 3. Platz
* ESL Intel Extreme Masters III GC Dubai: 1. Platz
* ESL Intel Extreme Masters IV European Championship Finals: 1. Platz
And mouz had one of the best wc3 squads with Tod and Fly100%, Coller who is one of the best QL Players.
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This is brilliant.
I really hope this rivalry builds. It could be great for foreign E-sports.
These are arguably the best 2 foreign teams in the scene right now; which means lots of opportunities for epic matches.
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So EG called HasuOrbs a walkover.... even if Huk won 3:2... seriously. and that 'just kidding' means nothing. i dislike EG.
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On December 03 2011 09:16 RJGooner wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 09:13 Eee wrote:
I think besides BiGs most 1v1 records between the players favours mouz.
Also mouz has (among others):
1st at IEM Gamescom 2010 (MorroW)
3rd at Homestory Cup 2010 (MorroW)
2nd at Assembly Winter 2011 (MorroW)
4th at Copenhagen Games 2011 (MorroW)
2nd at Dreamhack Winter 2010 (Mana)
3rd at IEM Gamescom 2011 (Mana)
3rd at Homestory Cup 2 (Mana)
2nd at ESWC (Mana)
3rd IPL 2 (Mana)
2nd Assembly Summer (Mana)
4th at IEM Guangzhou (HasuObs)
4th at TSL3 (HasuObs)
2nd at MSI procup (HasoObs)
1st TSL 3 (ThorzaIN)
2nd Dreamhack Valencia (ThorzaIN)
4th at IPL 2 (ThorzaIN)
3rd at European battle.net inv (ThorzaIN)
IMO, this is a pretty impressive list of achievments! Mouz is cleary on of the most underestimated western sc2 teams. Sigh.... why WHY do threads like this always have to degenerate into a flame war against the two teams. EG is one of the top NA teams, Mouz is the best European team. They are both really good. The twitter war was supposed to be a fun thing but I guess people always have to make it about who is better.
haha this is fun for me as a liquid fan anyways 
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Its simple: Mouz just didn't spends so much money into their sc2 team. EG just throws money to every winning player and tries to sign them, thats why they win more 
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