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AskJoshy
United States1625 Posts
Looks like Destiny is sticking with Quantic Gaming and even though they just "broke up" with Incredible Miracle, he will be heading to South Korea to train anyway. He will be staying with StarTale and streaming constantly on his new channel on own3d. http://www.own3d.tv/destiny Dates and more information are coming soon according to QxG's website! I wish you luck, Steven. =) Edit: According to the article, he is slated to be staying for approximately three weeks. 
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terialk
United States770 Posts
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Elite__
Canada976 Posts
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Treemonkeys
United States2082 Posts
He is going to be so good! | ||
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Grettin
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pPingu
Switzerland2892 Posts
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chrisgreg
Canada61 Posts
Good Luck!! | ||
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Superouman
France2195 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:16 chrisgreg wrote: he plays on KR ladder already, the language barrier might make the trip not benefit him, but i super hope it does im a huge destiny fan! Good Luck!! Was the trip not beneficial for other foreigners as well? No, they all became a lot stronger, ever heard of Naniwa (amines makes you stronger!) | ||
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
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Yaki
France4234 Posts
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Grettin
42381 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:18 Superouman wrote: Was the trip not beneficial for other foreigners as well? No, they all became a lot stronger, ever heard of Naniwa (amines makes you stronger!) Naniwa (and most of the other foreigners) has ALREADY stayed in Korea longer than Destiny's upcoming three weeks. Destiny, as already stated, is already playing in the Korean ladder. And most likely he is going to stream more than practicing with Startale players. Also, the language barrier might be a problem for such a fast visit. But no, i'm not saying it's certain that this won't help him at all. But personally i think it won't help him much. Once again, good luck to him. | ||
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:18 Superouman wrote: Was the trip not beneficial for other foreigners as well? No, they all became a lot stronger, ever heard of Naniwa (amines makes you stronger!) It takes a long term stay in Korea to improve a lot. 3 weeks isn't much time to get anything done. This is more like a paid vacation in korea for him.  | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10316 Posts
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Air4013
United States89 Posts
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Grettin
42381 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:24 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: anyone know why koreans are using own3d instead? does it give more money or something? thx in adv ^^ Yes, apparently own3d does give out more revenue trough ads compared to justin/twitch. Thats what i have read and heard. | ||
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Cokefreak
Finland8095 Posts
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shtdisturbance
Canada613 Posts
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Flaiker
Germany235 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:25 Grettin wrote: Yes, apparently own3d does give out more revenue trough ads compared to justin/twitch. Thats what i have read and heard. So that's the reason why some people still use ist TT | ||
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cvt
United States192 Posts
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Fishriot
United States621 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:16 chrisgreg wrote: he plays on KR ladder already, the language barrier might make the trip not benefit him, but i super hope it does im a huge destiny fan! Good Luck!! What? So glad that Destiny still gets to go to Korea. Hopefully Sase will have the opportunity to practice with ST as well. | ||
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Psyc
Canada11 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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-stOpSKY-
Canada498 Posts
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IamBach
United States1059 Posts
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-stOpSKY-
Canada498 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:27 Psyc wrote: Incontrol a bit jealous.. Cant tell if serious or stupid? | ||
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Grettin
42381 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:27 Psyc wrote: Incontrol a bit jealous.. Why would he be jealous? He's most likely going to practice with Slayers players for longer period of time. Think a bit next time. | ||
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JBanKs
United Kingdom617 Posts
 Will be bringing my own footage from inside the house and other team houses while I am out there! Great addition to the house | ||
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BronzeBas
Netherlands76 Posts
I'm no huge fan of your stream, but no one can't deny that you worked really fucking hard for this! Best of luck buddy! | ||
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ReachTheSky
United States3294 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:23 iNcontroL wrote: oh stop people. 3 weeks will make him better but nobody is going to argue he will become the #1 foreign zerg in 3 weeks.. it's a great training period and a nice opportunity for a guy who hasn't been to korea to go to korea in the name of sc2.. just be happy for him. How about you stop trying to influence people on what they want to think or say. Why do you get so mad when your not the one getting attention? | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:31 ReachTheSky wrote: How about you stop trying to influence people on what they want to think or say. Why do you get so mad when your not the one getting attention? Where from his post does it seem he's mad because hes not getting attention? rofl you just trying to get a response from him? lol how pathetic. Gl destiny in korea even though its only for a short 3 weeks its better then no weeks | ||
Chill
Calgary25974 Posts
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dgwow
Canada1024 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:18 Superouman wrote: Was the trip not beneficial for other foreigners as well? No, they all became a lot stronger, ever heard of Naniwa (amines makes you stronger!) Naniwa stayed in Korea for way longer than three weeks | ||
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sickoota
Canada918 Posts
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Noro
Canada991 Posts
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thee telescopes
321 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:31 ReachTheSky wrote: How about you stop trying to influence people on what they want to think or say. Why do you get so mad when your not the one getting attention? I hear the best way to deal with someone you perceive as wanting attention is to find any possible excuse to hate on them you can. | ||
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ReachTheSky
United States3294 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:32 blade55555 wrote: Where from his post does it seem he's mad because hes not getting attention? rofl you just trying to get a response from him? lol how pathetic. Gl destiny in korea even though its only for a short 3 weeks its better then no weeks its called his behavior. There is no reason for him to even post something like that. If you take a look at Incontrol's track record this has happened many, many times. | ||
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Jakkerr
Netherlands2549 Posts
He isn't gonna get much better from 3 weeks in Korea but it's a nice experience for sure. Also great choice to switch to own3d.tv it's so much better then twitch :p | ||
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
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Giantt
Bulgaria82 Posts
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DeltruS
Canada2214 Posts
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ReachTheSky
United States3294 Posts
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daxile
Canada829 Posts
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tribulator
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QxGRockEr
United States191 Posts
Well i hope with destinys new training he might just be something more then a famous trash talker. I just dont see any upside this has for QxG other then more publicity lol. Nevertheless Goodluck QxG lets see if ur interesting ways will pay off. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:34 ReachTheSky wrote: its called his behavior. There is no reason for him to even post something like that. If you take a look at Incontrol's track record this has happened many, many times. What? People were complaining 3 weeks isn't enough and I said "just be happy for him" how can you take that as me being mad I am not getting attention? You are really bad at the forum thing... | ||
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Hardigan
Switzerland1297 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:34 ReachTheSky wrote: its called his behavior. There is no reason for him to even post something like that. If you take a look at Incontrol's track record this has happened many, many times. For an Incontrol hater you definitely stalk him a lot it seems... And yeah. it's only 3 weeks, it will be more of a thing of expirience than a thing of practising there. and another thing: Now finally the Startale background on the mysterious quantic gaming video makes more sence. | ||
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Torpedo.Vegas
United States1890 Posts
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dani`
Netherlands2402 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:34 ReachTheSky wrote: its called his behavior. There is no reason for him to even post something like that. If you take a look at Incontrol's track record this has happened many, many times. You are acting ridiculous. Incontrol did not seem "mad", neither was he trying to "influence people". I'm not a fanboy of him at all before you pull that card, just saying you are hallucinating a bit here. | ||
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Baum
Germany1010 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:23 iNcontroL wrote: oh stop people. 3 weeks will make him better but nobody is going to argue he will become the #1 foreign zerg in 3 weeks.. it's a great training period and a nice opportunity for a guy who hasn't been to korea to go to korea in the name of sc2.. just be happy for him. Isn't this what people are talking about anyway. Nobody is arguing that he won't improve from this at all but if he is going to show better results after that is up for discussion. | ||
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Demonace34
United States2493 Posts
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Fandango
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On December 03 2011 05:38 iNcontroL wrote: What? People were complaining 3 weeks isn't enough and I said "just be happy for him" how can you take that as me being mad I am not getting attention? You are really bad at the forum thing... Ha! Like we'd fall for another one of your posts! This reply to the guy saying the thing about you is clearly an attempt to garner support for your presidential bid of 2016! We're on to you buster! | ||
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DarK[A]
United States217 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:41 Torpedo.Vegas wrote: 3 weeks is better then no weeks. Although, Destiny can't really talk and be as boisterous on his stream while he is in the team house I don't think. I mean it seems like a pretty quiet and focused atmosphere in general. Yeah, during some of his recent "more serious" streaming sessions there was barely a peep out of him the whole time. I'm not used to that | ||
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ReachTheSky
United States3294 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:38 Hardigan wrote: For an Incontrol hater you definitely stalk him a lot it seems... And yeah. it's only 3 weeks, it will be more of a thing of expirience than a thing of practising there. and another thing: Now finally the Startale background on the mysterious quantic gaming video makes more sence. What can i say, he rubbed me the wrong way one day. Not to mention trying to give me the evil eye at a socal lan once. LOLOL that was pretty funny i must say. Yeah why shouldn't i hate | ||
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mnck
Denmark1518 Posts
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tribulator
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On December 03 2011 05:43 DarK[A] wrote: Yeah, during some of his recent "more serious" streaming sessions there was barely a peep out of him the whole time. I'm not used to that I think this issue has more to do with his current apartment with roommate living situation than it does the seriousness of his streaming sessions. | ||
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HornyHerring
Papua New Guinea1058 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:18 Superouman wrote: Was the trip not beneficial for other foreigners as well? No, they all became a lot stronger, ever heard of Naniwa (amines makes you stronger!) Like it helped TLO, Haypro, Ret or Incontrol. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:43 ReachTheSky wrote: What can i say, he rubbed me the wrong way one day. Not to mention trying to give me the evil eye at a socal lan once. LOLOL that was pretty funny i must say. Yeah why shouldn't i hate This is a good post for people to see... he thinks I know who the fuck he is and tried to give him the evil eye once... newsflash I squint all the time cause I am supposed to wear glasses but I usually don't.. additionally how the FUCK would I recognize you at a lan? WHo are you? LOL | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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Zorkmid
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50-70% of the posters in this thread....*shakes head* | ||
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-stOpSKY-
Canada498 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:43 ReachTheSky wrote: What can i say, he rubbed me the wrong way one day. Not to mention trying to give me the evil eye at a socal lan once. LOLOL that was pretty funny i must say. Yeah why shouldn't i hate Ask for his autograph and got shut down because he was busy and now you are mad? Sounds about right? | ||
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IceBurg
Australia73 Posts
Good luck Destiny - look forward to watching! | ||
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Slasher
United States1095 Posts
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Sententia
United States90 Posts
I'm surprised QG was able to send him there, but their financial situation must be better than I assumed. Maybe it's still part of the partnership with IM, they did say they'd be carrying out their obligations before the contract ended. | ||
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ReachTheSky
United States3294 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:45 iNcontroL wrote: This is a good post for people to see... he thinks I know who the fuck he is and tried to give him the evil eye once... newsflash I squint all the time cause I am supposed to wear glasses but I usually don't.. additionally how the FUCK would I recognize you at a lan? WHo are you? LOL LOL! You don't know who i am guy. Squinting/evil eye are quite different. And you don't need to know who someone is to give an evil eye . Anyway, Karma is catching up bro.Good luck!!!!Gratz to Destiny though, i'm glad he still gets to goto korea after hearing about this qunatic/IM split. I hope he releases a replay pack. | ||
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PhiliBiRD
United States2643 Posts
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
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sandman1454
United States96 Posts
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Gladiator6
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WightyCity
Canada887 Posts
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QxGRockEr
United States191 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:31 ReachTheSky wrote: How about you stop trying to influence people on what they want to think or say. Why do you get so mad when your not the one getting attention? Reach i bet your dream is to become internet police. Just look at your previous posts... Its you trying to police everyone everywhere. | ||
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leo23
United States3075 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:49 ReachTheSky wrote: LOL! You don't know who i am guy. Squinting/evil eye are quite different. And you don't need to know who someone is to give an evil eye . Anyway, Karma is catching up bro.Good luck!!!!Gratz to Destiny though, i'm glad he still gets to goto korea after hearing about this qunatic/IM split. I hope he releases a replay pack. wow... just wow. anyways gl to destiny! I hope he gains a lot of good experience | ||
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Deadeight
United Kingdom1629 Posts
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Maesy
United States1444 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:49 ReachTheSky wrote: LOL! You don't know who i am guy. Squinting/evil eye are quite different. And you don't need to know who someone is to give an evil eye . Anyway, Karma is catching up bro.Good luck!!!!Gratz to Destiny though, i'm glad he still gets to goto korea after hearing about this qunatic/IM split. I hope he releases a replay pack. That's some pretty hardcore karma, y'know, having a huge house you live in with all your friends, and you train with those same friends for your career. Oh, and an awesome girlfriend. Sounds like a shitty life. Karma's taking it's turn on you, Incontrol. | ||
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cvt
United States192 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:27 Psyc wrote: Incontrol a bit jealous.. Psyc a bit stupid.. | ||
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Sententia
United States90 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:50 sandman1454 wrote: too bad destiny wont be able to BM everyone he loses to on KR server since they wont understand HAHA, btw 3weeks is pretty much only enough time to learn their training regimin and hopefully bring it with u when u come home, but definitely not enough time to see improvement in play immediately Even as you speak from your battle-hardened experience personally training in Korea, I have to disagree. Everyone who's gone to Korea for any length of time has come away a better player, including incontrol, who came and went within approximately 15 minutes. | ||
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Chaosvuistje
Netherlands2581 Posts
In any other case, good luck to destiny. Hope he picks something up from the language | ||
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Chill
Calgary25974 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:56 Chaosvuistje wrote: This thread created more drama than the actual event of destiny going to korea. Well done reddi- TL forums! In any other case, good luck to destiny. Hope he picks something up from the language In three weeks? O_o | ||
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Termit
Sweden3466 Posts
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HackBenjamin
Canada1094 Posts
Good luck and have fun in Korea, Destiny. It's a sweet opportunity, hope you make the most of it | ||
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n0ise
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keeperton
United States233 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:49 ReachTheSky wrote: LOL! You don't know who i am guy. Squinting/evil eye are quite different. And you don't need to know who someone is to give an evil eye . Anyway, Karma is catching up bro.Good luck!!!!Gratz to Destiny though, i'm glad he still gets to goto korea after hearing about this qunatic/IM split. I hope he releases a replay pack. Please stop posting. You look like an imbecile. User was warned for this post | ||
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Nazeron
Canada1046 Posts
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blae000
Norway1640 Posts
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NeonFox
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:49 ReachTheSky wrote: LOL! You don't know who i am guy. Squinting/evil eye are quite different. And you don't need to know who someone is to give an evil eye . Anyway, Karma is catching up bro.Good luck!!!!Gratz to Destiny though, i'm glad he still gets to goto korea after hearing about this qunatic/IM split. I hope he releases a replay pack. IT'S A BRO-OFF! Good luck Destiny. You seem like a good guy. | ||
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Legio
Sweden235 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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Marcus420
Canada1923 Posts
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ptrpb
Canada753 Posts
This should be really fun, thanks to Quantic for sticking to their promises even with the IM partnership going down. Now if only we knew where SaSe was going | ||
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Leach
United States536 Posts
Seems to short to do any good whatsoever.... | ||
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SeeDLiNg
United States690 Posts
But as others said... 3 weeks? hmmm... | ||
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strength
United States493 Posts
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Sententia
United States90 Posts
On December 03 2011 06:20 Legio wrote: Three weeks and streaming the whole time. Sounds more like a publicity stunt/money grab than anything. If he wanted to improve in Korean, then stay longer and play with a team where he can communicate and discuss the games. That might make sense if going to Korea were profitable, unfortunately going to Korea pretty much cuts you off from all online tournaments, so if you can't get far in GSL you're not making any money. The only good thing about Korea for foreigners is getting practice with the Korean pros in customs and getting training from the more mechanically sound Korean ladder. You know there's a portion of Destiny's audience that tunes in for the drama, and playing in Korea is going to cut down the drama. He's going to make less money from streaming and less money from tournaments; the only benefit is going to be an increase in skill unless he can really make a splash in GSL, but I don't think that's within his reach right now. | ||
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Sergio1992
Italy522 Posts
I wonder though: I saw on youtube people' comment about what destiny says about his viewers. He regards them as idiots fanatics, and only as an opportunity to make more money... Is that true? I never heard something similar from destiny's mouth, or I would have stopped watching it. Can someone enlighten me up on this matter? | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
I agree that destiny shouldnt focus too hard on practice and hope he just tries to have a nice experience in korea | ||
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KjetilV
Norway20 Posts
On December 03 2011 06:29 Sergio1992 wrote: Destiny is a great player, and he has a great stream,which I enjoy watching a lot. I wonder though: I saw on youtube people' comment about what destiny says about his viewers. He regards them as idiots fanatics, and only as an opportunity to make more money... Is that true? I never heard something similar from destiny's mouth, or I would have stopped watching it. Can someone enlighten me up on this matter? His team is sending him to Korea. Destiny streaming from Korea will give him more viewers, and more viewers equals more exposure for his team. | ||
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Enki
United States2548 Posts
On December 03 2011 06:03 n0ise wrote: sick opportunity for Destiny yo Fixed. I doubt StarTale will benefit that much from having Destiny playing practice games with them for 3 weeks. If anything this is more of a vacation for him as 3 weeks is nothing. If he was staying for a few months then yeah, would be a good opportunity to benefit himself and silence the naysayers who say he doesnt take SC2 that seriously. | ||
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Headnoob
Australia2108 Posts
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Sententia
United States90 Posts
I would say that almost 100% of the people who type in Destiny's chat could be classified as retarded by the definition of the word. As to Destiny saying that himself, I don't know. | ||
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iiGreetings
Canada563 Posts
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Coated
United States74 Posts
On December 03 2011 06:29 Sergio1992 wrote: Destiny is a great player, and he has a great stream,which I enjoy watching a lot. I wonder though: I saw on youtube people' comment about what destiny says about his viewers. He regards them as idiots fanatics, and only as an opportunity to make more money... Is that true? I never heard something similar from destiny's mouth, or I would have stopped watching it. Can someone enlighten me up on this matter? His fans are idiots. If i saw Destiny saying this I might have a bit more respect. One of the things that makes Destiny so hated are his fans. I've never seen such blind devotion in my life... oh wait... Paris Hilton. However, this is a good opportunity for him (even though I'm not sure why he is going). He's barely good enough to compete on the NA ladder anymore, I don't see a point in needing to go to Korea just to get your face smashed in for 3 weeks. Maybe if he had higher representation on the NA ladder I'd understand someone fronting him the money to go to Korea. As it stands, this is an obvious publicity stunt, in my eyes. But hey, what can you expect from the 'Paris Hilton' of the SC2 world. It's not like he got streamers from his 'skill' (although his fans will blindly say he is 'PRO' lol!) I don't hate Destiny, I just hate his fans. | ||
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Frauk
Norway36 Posts
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SoJu.WeRRa
Korea (South)820 Posts
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ajdoj14
United States32 Posts
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Sergio1992
Italy522 Posts
On December 03 2011 06:38 Coated wrote: His fans are idiots. If i saw Destiny saying this I might have a bit more respect. One of the things that makes Destiny so hated are his fans. I've never seen such blind devotion in my life... oh wait... Paris Hilton. However, this is a good opportunity for him (even though I'm not sure why he is going). He's barely good enough to compete on the NA ladder anymore, I don't see a point in needing to go to Korea just to get your face smashed in for 3 weeks. Maybe if he had higher representation on the NA ladder I'd understand someone fronting him the money to go to Korea. As it stands, this is an obvious publicity stunt, in my eyes. But hey, what can you expect from the 'Paris Hilton' of the SC2 world. It's not like he got streamers from his 'skill' (although his fans will blindly say he is 'PRO' lol!) I don't hate Destiny, I just hate his fans. why do you hate his fans? I mean they are devoted, fan stands for fanatic, after all.. Even I [are these two words correct?], I am a fan of destiny himself, but I don't understand why I should be an idiot. In fact, I never posted one time in his stream chat , just watching him chilling around ( I like that he made me meet how great a player like combatex is) | ||
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Akhee
Brazil811 Posts
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NEXUS6
United States413 Posts
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babylon
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On December 03 2011 06:38 Coated wrote: However, this is a good opportunity for him (even though I'm not sure why he is going). He's barely good enough to compete on the NA ladder anymore, I don't see a point in needing to go to Korea just to get your face smashed in for 3 weeks. To be fair, people said the same thing about Grubby training in Korea (though Grubby was also there for another tournament), and we can all see what the training's done for him. His play is pretty sick now. Though I don't really know if Destiny has the same potential/drive as Grubby does. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:27 Psyc wrote: Incontrol a bit jealous.. User was warned for this post who wouldn't be jealous? i am jealous. however, like chill said, i would rather treat it as a vacation and hang out with ST than practicing. I would probably get kicked out after a few days for distracting them. =( | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15466 Posts
On December 03 2011 06:43 epiics wrote: No point in going for only 3 weeks... He won't improve? Won't network with players/teams there? I think he will do both of those things and that they will both positively impact his career. He doesn't have to make it into Code A for it to qualify as improvement. This will be helpful no matter which way you look at it. | ||
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GenesisX
Canada4267 Posts
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mememolly
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BudgetTheLeech
United States89 Posts
Anyways, I'm glad he's doing this. Destiny is always one to go to MLG's, but he never places high up, even though he has the extreme potential to. I saw a comment saying that there's no point in him going to Korea because he's just going to get his face smashed in. While this is most likely true, you learn from your mistakes, especially in Starcraft. You didn't just magically pop up into Masters, you had to work your way there by winning games, and to win those games you have to learn from your mistakes, by LOSING. Axslav recently mentioned on his stream that he loves playing against players that are well above him in skill, because it gives him the best opportunity to grow as a player mentally both in-game, and out. Therefore I find that statement to be ridiculous. Best of luck to Destiny, can't wait to see how much he improves over the three weeks he spends there! | ||
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Ginyu
Canada14 Posts
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Blade Fox
United States215 Posts
"WHATEVS YOU RUBBED ME TEH RONG WAY SO I IS MAD AT YOU FOR DA REST OF LIFE. I TOL MAH MOMS YOU WAS MEAN TO ME AT A LAN" Congratulations destiny may the trip go well for you sir. | ||
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Redmark
Canada2129 Posts
On December 03 2011 06:50 Blade Fox wrote: No wonder incontrol makes fun of the critic community so much, ReachTheSky is the epitomy of the retards he has to deal with. "WHATEVS YOU RUBBED ME TEH RONG WAY SO I IS MAD AT YOU FOR DA REST OF LIFE. I TOL MAH MOMS YOU WAS MEAN TO ME AT A LAN" Congratulations destiny may the trip go well for you sir. ... what is the critic community? I'm pretty sure haters don't group up and plan their next hate session. Or maybe they do, and I've been missing it all along. And of all the dumb reasons you see people hate public figures real-life conflict is definitely not among the worst. | ||
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Kmonx
United States102 Posts
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hooktits
United States972 Posts
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NagAfightinG
United Kingdom270 Posts
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RaiZ
2813 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:23 iNcontroL wrote: oh stop people. 3 weeks will make him better but nobody is going to argue he will become the #1 foreign zerg in 3 weeks.. it's a great training period and a nice opportunity for a guy who hasn't been to korea to go to korea in the name of sc2.. just be happy for him. Couldn't agree more... I just hope that i won't get some freeze every 15 sec anymore with his new stream !  | ||
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United States1 Post
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Hyge
Finland138 Posts
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Zeromadcowz
Canada241 Posts
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Canada973 Posts
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Poland6595 Posts
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Stropheum
United States1124 Posts
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lunchrush
United States138 Posts
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Canada486 Posts
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cvt
United States192 Posts
On December 03 2011 06:39 Frauk wrote: this, in my opinion, is just ridicoulous and a waste of time and money for both parts. like picking a random gm from us server. Thank you for your expert opinion Frauk | ||
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Canada74 Posts
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Canada2628 Posts
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
On December 03 2011 06:38 Coated wrote: His fans are idiots. If i saw Destiny saying this I might have a bit more respect. One of the things that makes Destiny so hated are his fans. I've never seen such blind devotion in my life... oh wait... Paris Hilton. However, this is a good opportunity for him (even though I'm not sure why he is going). He's barely good enough to compete on the NA ladder anymore, I don't see a point in needing to go to Korea just to get your face smashed in for 3 weeks. Maybe if he had higher representation on the NA ladder I'd understand someone fronting him the money to go to Korea. As it stands, this is an obvious publicity stunt, in my eyes. But hey, what can you expect from the 'Paris Hilton' of the SC2 world. It's not like he got streamers from his 'skill' (although his fans will blindly say he is 'PRO' lol!) I don't hate Destiny, I just hate his fans. I completely agree with you on this. Destiny fans are really the 1 thing about SC2 I really can't stand. I love the game, I love the community, I love most of the pro teams and a lot of the pro players, but destiny fans just annoy me to no end with their blind love of a player who has accomplished nothing, and they think he's the best in the world. Not to mention they basically all have the little 4chan kid attitude and talk in memes. | ||
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ABear
United States161 Posts
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ReaperX
Hong Kong1758 Posts
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-stOpSKY-
Canada498 Posts
On December 03 2011 07:06 lunchrush wrote: DESTINY!!!! Hope he makes Code A and proves all the haters wrong. Do you understand English? | ||
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Prplppleatr
United States1518 Posts
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
i think what he meant to say, lunchrush, is that he won't be participating in code a since he will only be there for three weeks. | ||
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FeUerFlieGe
United States1193 Posts
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Haydin
United States1481 Posts
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
Not sure whether it's worth the cost... edit: On December 03 2011 07:18 Haydin wrote: Here's hoping that he seriously trains and does not dick around with Randomking. that would actually be quite awesome! | ||
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cmen15
United States1519 Posts
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LXR
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AimlessAmoeba
Canada704 Posts
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s2pid_loser
United States699 Posts
pretty cool news for destiny | ||
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FryktSkyene
United States1327 Posts
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slytown
Korea (South)1411 Posts
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dapierow
Serbia1316 Posts
1. Get good coaching and practice with players that are way better than him, 3 weeks with the best support he can get. 2. Give him a view into the way SC2 is done in Korea and he will know if he will come back again or never want to go again. Its a good trial period. Im glad he is actually trying to improve! | ||
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kittensrcute
United States617 Posts
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Mr Showtime
United States1353 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:16 chrisgreg wrote: he plays on KR ladder already, the language barrier might make the trip not benefit him, but i super hope it does im a huge destiny fan! Good Luck!! literally every other foreigner that has gone to korea does not know korean | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:16 chrisgreg wrote: he plays on KR ladder already, the language barrier might make the trip not benefit him, but i super hope it does im a huge destiny fan! Good Luck!! looking at all the people who have been to Korea, I'd say it's the limitation to three weeks only that might not make it worth it, considering that all the other players needed several months to restructure their play from bottom up. well, maybe destiny can prove that three weeks is enough, but honestly, I wouldn't be bettin gon it. :-/ | ||
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ItsMeDomLee
Canada2732 Posts
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ptrpb
Canada753 Posts
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McKTenor13
United States1383 Posts
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xlava
United States676 Posts
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Stancel
Singapore15360 Posts
Goddamnit GL to Destiny. | ||
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zZygote
Canada898 Posts
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Shebuha
Canada1335 Posts
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The Final Boss
United States1839 Posts
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bundo
Canada113 Posts
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dpurple
Turkmenistan592 Posts
Destiny hwaiting!!! I always knew Destiny was the best ♥I hope they have grandpa practise chair there for him haha | ||
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tehemperorer
United States2183 Posts
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dpurple
Turkmenistan592 Posts
On December 03 2011 09:10 tehemperorer wrote: Doesn't he have a child? Yea but destinys child is only like 6 months. | ||
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Badfatpanda
United States9719 Posts
On December 03 2011 09:11 dpurple wrote: Yea but destinys child is only like 6 months. Really I thought they were much older http://maurycio.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/destiny.jpg?w=645 + Show Spoiler + I'm sorry but that was truly necessary I'm really glad destiny still has a chance to train in Korea despite QxG nixing their partnership with IM, hope he continues to improve! | ||
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Colour
Canada68 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:23 iNcontroL wrote: oh stop people. 3 weeks will make him better but nobody is going to argue he will become the #1 foreign zerg in 3 weeks.. it's a great training period and a nice opportunity for a guy who hasn't been to korea to go to korea in the name of sc2.. just be happy for him. Yeah exactly. Starcraft training or not it just seems like an interesting place to travel to. | ||
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WackaAlpaca
Canada208 Posts
i used to really like destiny, but then he kinda sold out for the money. hopefully his intentions with leaving his (family? he has a kid right?) are good. gl hf! | ||
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Ettick
United States2434 Posts
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PolskaGora
United States547 Posts
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
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Rikke
Germany302 Posts
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KDot2
United States1213 Posts
On December 03 2011 09:35 Doodsmack wrote: Sorry but 3 weeks is more of a publicity move than anything else. if you don't think he will be a better player when he gets back you are flat out wrong | ||
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mbsupermario
United States101 Posts
I think StarTale has something to be gained from the situation, as well. At the very least, he will inject a different dimension of personality into the team's atmosphere. Also, consider that many tournaments these days are pitting westerners against Koreans, perhaps he can give them some insight into the playstyle and "strange" build orders used by the rest of the world. I really think it's a win-win situation. (flame on) | ||
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hXcBassman
Canada38 Posts
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eXigent.
Canada2419 Posts
On December 03 2011 07:23 JustPassingBy wrote: it's nice that he goes to Korea, but 3 weeks are not nearly enough to polish up your play from bottom up. Not sure whether it's worth the cost... edit: that would actually be quite awesome! It will definitely be worth the cost. First off Quantic benefits from having destiny in a prohouse, and becomes way more "known". Secondly destiny benefits because he plans on streaming his games from there, and will probably make more just from that than it costed him to fly out there. On December 03 2011 09:36 Rikke wrote: Maybe he gets to Plat on Korean Ladder. He already plays on the korean ladder from NA, so I dunno why you posted such nonsense other than to troll the thread... | ||
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
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Softcore
United Kingdom10 Posts
To all the people saying "3 weeks is not enough", look at the date. Do you think he'll stay over there for his kid's 1st christmas/new year? Do you think he won't go back for an extended period in 2012 given the opportunity? So many short-sighted comments here, sorry just had to have a mini-rant! Gl to stephen, not watched his stream for months but I remember he sounds like Steve Buscemi, this is enough for me to like him! >D | ||
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fcgog
United Kingdom876 Posts
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Canada230 Posts
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United Kingdom903 Posts
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RaKooNs
United Kingdom397 Posts
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AZKziek
Australia64 Posts
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RastaMonsta
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Mortal
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eXigent.
Canada2419 Posts
On December 03 2011 10:26 AZKziek wrote: What I want to know is what does he plan on doing with his son? How is that relavent to the topic? Im sure he will do what anybody else would do if they went on a vacation. He has parents, and a spouse, all of whom are totally capable of taking care of a baby for a little while. Pretty absurd question imo. | ||
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MattO1337
United States203 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:25 Grettin wrote: Yes, apparently own3d does give out more revenue trough ads compared to justin/twitch. Thats what i have read and heard. It won't matter much because Destiny will never get over 4000 viewers on own3d | ||
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Italy522 Posts
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Nesnaj
Philippines3 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:23 iNcontroL wrote: oh stop people. 3 weeks will make him better but nobody is going to argue he will become the #1 foreign zerg in 3 weeks.. it's a great training period and a nice opportunity for a guy who hasn't been to korea to go to korea in the name of sc2.. just be happy for him. Yeah! what iNcontroL said.. Goodluck Destiny, can you make a sign of my name, and take a picture with Kim Sungje (Rainbow) ... thanks.. | ||
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MisterTea
United Kingdom1047 Posts
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rewired
Canada630 Posts
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DeadCell
Canada256 Posts
Either way it will be a good experience for his overall play to improve. | ||
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Littlemuff
United Kingdom301 Posts
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FreedomSC2
Canada224 Posts
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FreedomSC2
Canada224 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:31 ReachTheSky wrote: How about you stop trying to influence people on what they want to think or say. Why do you get so mad when your not the one getting attention? interesting discussion about incontrol there. hmmm.. | ||
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Titusmaster6
United States5937 Posts
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Ansinjunger
United States2451 Posts
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sugatooth
United States52 Posts
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mark05
Canada807 Posts
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TheSwamp
United States1497 Posts
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lessQQmorePEWPEW
Jamaica921 Posts
On December 03 2011 10:26 AZKziek wrote: What I want to know is what does he plan on doing with his son? Hasn't AZK had enough controversy? Why do you need to troll with such an unnecessary comment? | ||
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Termit
Sweden3466 Posts
On December 03 2011 11:06 Littlemuff wrote: Training for 3 weeks in a proffesional enviroment will be the most benificial part of the trip. Even if he doesnt improve tenfold he'll still pick up loads of good habits. The smaller things add up to the bigger picture. What kind of habits would that be? | ||
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ligand
United States53 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:20 Yaki wrote: Not everybody gets the chance to live in the same house as Julyzerg. So now Destiny will learn how to two-base all-in like a champ! :D All joking aside I hope he learns a lot in the three weeks he is there. I always wish the best for the foreigners who visit Korea. | ||
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Syrupjuice
United States173 Posts
But again, best of luck to him. I hope he enjoys his trip. | ||
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Rokusha
United States207 Posts
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Sensator
Australia377 Posts
I think it's good he's getting some Korean exposure, it will definitely make him better, I just hope it translates to some results for his sake. | ||
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Brotatolol
United States1742 Posts
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Rodiel3
France1158 Posts
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lessQQmorePEWPEW
Jamaica921 Posts
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AZKziek
Australia64 Posts
On December 03 2011 12:13 lessQQmorePEWPEW wrote: Hasn't AZK had enough controversy? Why do you need to troll with such an unnecessary comment? How is that trolling? I'm genuinely concerned for an infant. You're the one being an ass. | ||
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SMD
Canada627 Posts
On December 03 2011 12:24 lessQQmorePEWPEW wrote: Personally I feel he is the least deserving of QxG to deserve this. But whatever, gl to him. you should read your name | ||
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sevia
United States954 Posts
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Moosy
Canada396 Posts
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BWVanguard
United States38 Posts
On December 03 2011 12:26 AZKziek wrote: How is that trolling? I'm genuinely concerned for an infant. You're the one being an ass. Why would you be "concerned"? And how is his family life and how he handles it any of your business? | ||
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TemplarCo.
Mexico2870 Posts
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KiLL_ORdeR
United States1518 Posts
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Mobius_1
United Kingdom2763 Posts
I couldn't be happier. GL HF Destiny. | ||
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
I know hes played it before, but it seems like every game... inb4 Destiny gets destroyed. | ||
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United States97276 Posts
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NuclearJudas
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Goibon
New Zealand8185 Posts
But i do wish Destiny a good time in Korea and hope he at least sees many of the sights! | ||
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.Aar
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On December 03 2011 13:05 Cloud9157 wrote: Lol Destiny is going to rage so hard at how much cheese there is on Korean ladder. I know hes played it before, but it seems like every game... inb4 Destiny gets destroyed. Let's turn our logic back on and realize that in that environment he'll simply get better at dealing with it. | ||
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cyclonous
United States55 Posts
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Sliver
United States402 Posts
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brum
Hungary187 Posts
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AZKziek
Australia64 Posts
On December 03 2011 12:36 BWVanguard wrote: Why would you be "concerned"? And how is his family life and how he handles it any of your business? In actuality, it's anyone who wants to be concerned for the potential harm (not saying it would happen) of another human being. But if we go by your rule, you're also concerning yourself by responding directly to my comment, so I respond to your question with a question, how is it any of your business? | ||
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FunkyFly
Sweden82 Posts
In actuality, it's anyone who wants to be concerned for the potential harm (not saying it would happen) of another human being. But if we go by your rule, you're also concerning yourself by responding directly to my comment, so I respond to your question with a question, how is it any of your business? Seeing your history, (comments/twitter etc.) you're one concerned mofo that cares right ? =/ | ||
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AZKziek
Australia64 Posts
On December 03 2011 14:54 FunkyFly wrote: + Show Spoiler + In actuality, it's anyone who wants to be concerned for the potential harm (not saying it would happen) of another human being. But if we go by your rule, you're also concerning yourself by responding directly to my comment, so I respond to your question with a question, how is it any of your business? Seeing your history, (comments/twitter etc.) you're one concerned mofo that cares right ? =/ When it comes to the safety of another person, yes. | ||
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lisward
Singapore959 Posts
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On December 03 2011 15:24 AZKziek wrote: When it comes to the safety of another person, yes. its ok to leave people stranded facing jail time because azk couldnt organise a circlejerk but god forbid a parent spend 3 weeks away from their child. | ||
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nearl
United States22 Posts
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AZKziek
Australia64 Posts
On December 03 2011 16:00 turdburgler wrote: its ok to leave people stranded facing jail time because azk couldnt organise a circlejerk but god forbid a parent spend 3 weeks away from their child. Here we go again, I didn't leave anyone stranded, I had no say whatsoever in what happened in the event, much like a lot of "AZK members". You're an idiot for assuming such things. | ||
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FuRRyChoBo
United States218 Posts
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SSeoni
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rotegirte
Germany2859 Posts
On December 03 2011 14:26 AZKziek wrote: In actuality, it's anyone who wants to be concerned for the potential harm (not saying it would happen) of another human being. But if we go by your rule, you're also concerning yourself by responding directly to my comment, so I respond to your question with a question, how is it any of your business? Wouldn't it be more natural to assume a parent to take care of the well-being of his child? Other than that, your question implies every one else involved in the process hasn't considered this issue as well. Now we can constantly question every whatever least probable theoretical scenario, or tackle issues once any factual sign of problem actually is observable. Your point might be legitimate as principle, yet a single "it's taken care of" is the most you can get. Anything more specific than that is really not of your concern. | ||
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AZKziek
Australia64 Posts
On December 03 2011 17:14 rotegirte wrote: Wouldn't it be more natural to assume a parent to take care of the well-being of his child? Other than that, your question implies every one else involved in the process hasn't considered this issue as well. Now we can constantly question every whatever least probable theoretical scenario, or tackle issues once any factual sign of problem actually is observable. Your point might be legitimate as principle, yet a single "it's taken care of" is the most you can get. Anything more specific than that is really not of your concern. And that's all I was wondering, how he planned on taking care of it. | ||
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Tommylew
Wales2717 Posts
Should be interesting :D | ||
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lisward
Singapore959 Posts
On December 03 2011 17:35 AZKziek wrote: And that's all I was wondering, how he planned on taking care of it. Well from what I know he's actively communicating with his ex wife/gf? So he'll prolly leave his kid with her, or he could let his parents take care of his kid as well, I mean his parents are really supportive of his pro gaming career. | ||
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MutaKingPrime
Korea (South)43 Posts
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-JoKeR-
Canada387 Posts
Streaming KR server will be nice, no more Deezer harassing him on NA. | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:14 Grettin wrote: Only three weeks. I doubt it will do any (big) wonders for him. Good luck though. its not that he want win the gsl its just a good train and 3 weeks korea is a good damn train ^^ he has a child he cant go longer xD | ||
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grs
Germany2339 Posts
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Smartwater
United States35 Posts
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iMbanana
Russian Federation2 Posts
Going to become better <333 | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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Xova
United States342 Posts
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Dimorgh
Sweden22 Posts
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Haustka
United States221 Posts
honestly, i know Destiny is good especially with infestors but nobody's good or talented enough to get any benefits out of travelling to Korea with only three weeks. If you are going to stay there stay there permanently or dont go b/c its waste your time and team's money. at least thats my opinion, either way gl it will be good experience but hopefully destiny is not trying to get anything out of from this short trip should be great tour though | ||
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ichnaschekot
380 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:26 shtdisturbance wrote: Great news! I thought destiny had a kid tho? Roachel will take care of it. | ||
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ProxyKnoxy
United Kingdom2576 Posts
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Bamm
Sweden279 Posts
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ETisME
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NekoFlandre
United States497 Posts
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Haustka
United States221 Posts
On December 03 2011 22:28 NekoFlandre wrote: GL Steven. Your stream is always awesome well not anymore, or if destiny tries to curse in a korean team house.... ohhhh thats gotta burn for him, not a good idea there if he tries to be fancy in there and bm all over their faces or during stream | ||
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AnYvia
Bulgaria474 Posts
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ThePlayer33
Australia2378 Posts
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LeeARK
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halfies
United Kingdom327 Posts
but it should be fun for him, so that always good. | ||
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Cyn.ful
United States89 Posts
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iMpOsEr
Bosnia-Herzegovina15 Posts
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FunnelC4kes
Ireland462 Posts
I'm really hoping that Destiny learns a shit-ton while he's there. It'd be good for the bidness if a personality like him can ALSO be a top player. | ||
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optical630
United Kingdom768 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:23 iNcontroL wrote: oh stop people. 3 weeks will make him better but nobody is going to argue he will become the #1 foreign zerg in 3 weeks.. it's a great training period and a nice opportunity for a guy who hasn't been to korea to go to korea in the name of sc2.. just be happy for him. with a hint of jelly User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Haustka
United States221 Posts
i would like a hint of that also, incontrol what supports your idea of destiny being able to learn enough to improve at all? i mean... he has already seen the way koreans play from MLG, and thats probably all the experience hes going to get in korea sorry if i am being negative about this issue, but i really dont see the logic for destiny to go there | ||
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Welmu
Finland3295 Posts
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Seiferz
United States640 Posts
On December 04 2011 00:59 Haustka wrote: i would like a hint of that also, incontrol what supports your idea of destiny being able to learn enough to improve at all? i mean... he has already seen the way koreans play from MLG, and thats probably all the experience hes going to get in korea sorry if i am being negative about this issue, but i really dont see the logic for destiny to go there seeing koreans play and practicing with them are two different things. i don't understand why everyone has to be so negative about this. it's awesome that he gets to go | ||
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MenSol[ZerO]
Canada1134 Posts
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ShatterZer0
United States1843 Posts
Have fun in my homeland Mr. Destiny~! | ||
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RyanRushia
United States2748 Posts
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
On December 04 2011 01:00 Welmu wrote: Hmm... Strange that one would go korea, when he still has a lot room to improve in NA still. Good luck to him nevertheless^^ Indeed wise words | ||
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halfies
United Kingdom327 Posts
On December 04 2011 01:03 Seiferz wrote: seeing koreans play and practicing with them are two different things. i don't understand why everyone has to be so negative about this. it's awesome that he gets to go everyone isnt being negative, most of this thread is destiny fanboys who thinks its amazing and that he'll come out of its massively improved, which i really doubt he will. if he was destroying everyone on NA and needed the challenge then it would maybe make sense, but hes not. i imagine this really short period has something to do with the end of QIM that was announced, and them wanting to keep destiny interested until they can set up a real trip for him, but it seems to me that its a waste of time. but hey, maybe hell come back and be #1 GM a week later, and then well all look like idiots | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:23 iNcontroL wrote: oh stop people. 3 weeks will make him better but nobody is going to argue he will become the #1 foreign zerg in 3 weeks.. it's a great training period and a nice opportunity for a guy who hasn't been to korea to go to korea in the name of sc2.. just be happy for him. Was expecting this comment to be a reply to a flow of idiotic hype/troll/bash/whatnot. But there were like 2 guys who were moderately skeptical about the positive effects of Destiny's trip and a bunch of encouraging words from the others. Not worth a "oh stop people". TL is not that bad a place yet. Edit: moderatEly :o) | ||
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Denzil
United Kingdom4193 Posts
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Ghad
Norway2551 Posts
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Haustka
United States221 Posts
plus, it takes weeks to even settle down and just learn their style and get used to them. Ive read and heard what naniwa and huk saying about being in Korea. Naniwa even said it was stupid for Thorzain to go bak to Sweden after just short time at the korea. This strongly indicates that how much time it actually takes for anyone to be able to increase their skill while in Korea. | ||
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IamWasted
Germany5 Posts
Have fun! | ||
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OxyFuel
Canada195 Posts
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boon2537
United States905 Posts
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TheDraken
United States640 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:14 Grettin wrote: Only three weeks. I doubt it will do any (big) wonders for him. Good luck though. On December 03 2011 12:24 lessQQmorePEWPEW wrote: Personally I feel he is the least deserving of QxG to deserve this. But whatever, gl to him. On December 04 2011 00:59 Haustka wrote: sorry if i am being negative about this issue, but i really dont see the logic for destiny to go there my god. so many people have some stick up their ass about destiny's improvement. everything the guy does there's always a crowd of people sitting there saying "destiny overrated. destiny not improving. destiny wasting time." just let the man do something for once without being so critical. | ||
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Jongl0
631 Posts
On December 04 2011 02:17 TheDraken wrote: my god. so many people have some stick up their ass about destiny's improvement. everything the guy does there's always a crowd of people sitting there saying "destiny overrated. destiny not improving. destiny wasting time." just let the man do something for once without being so critical. People are entitled to opinions, both positive and negative. | ||
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coopa523
United States7 Posts
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Cypherxd
Sweden6 Posts
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Flamingo777
United States1190 Posts
Best of luck, Destiny! | ||
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chenchen
United States1136 Posts
A big part of Destiny's time in Korea might just be him being completely crushed by various ST players. | ||
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Aquilla
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oDieN[Siege]
United States2904 Posts
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Shiori
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Neurosis
United States893 Posts
On December 04 2011 04:35 Shiori wrote: I don't see this amounting to anything. Destiny is basically just a mid-high masters NA Zerg. I'm not sure why ST would let him into their house when there are probably far better candidates on ladder. Because he has so many viewers. | ||
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dapierow
Serbia1316 Posts
Yeah, he has a lot of community support, and saying hes mid-high masters is pretty rough considering hes gm/topofmasters. | ||
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eXigent.
Canada2419 Posts
On December 04 2011 01:59 Haustka wrote: im not being negative, sure it would be great for anyone to go to Korea and learn so much within just 3 weeks, but u think about it, is three weeks enough for you to actually learn enough so that u can actually beat high level players? does this mean other players arent practicing while destiny's gone to korea? plus, it takes weeks to even settle down and just learn their style and get used to them. Ive read and heard what naniwa and huk saying about being in Korea. Naniwa even said it was stupid for Thorzain to go bak to Sweden after just short time at the korea. This strongly indicates that how much time it actually takes for anyone to be able to increase their skill while in Korea. Odds are its like a trial run. You don't just drop everything and goto Korea with the intent of staying for a very long time. Things might not work out, or it might turn out to be a shitty decision. Giving it a 3 week trial first before actually committing is a very smart thing to do. You test the waters and see if your personality meshes well with the team, and that everything will go as planned etc. Why would you blindly commit to such a longterm endevour? Everyone saying 3weeks is too short is not taking this into effect. For all Destiny/Startale knows they could end up hating each other, and be forced into a situation that would end bad for both sides. At least this way if they dont get along , destiny can leave after his 3 week stay. Secondly, 3 weeks might not be enough to play as good as the koreans but it will 100% without a doubt open destinys eyes to how they practice in korea, and the difference he has. This is always a positive thing, and something he will be able to pick up even when he returns to NA. Also, 3 weeks will certainly give him the time to have a few korean zergs run through his playstyle and offer suggestions on how to improve it. He might not have the time to mass game endlessly to perfect everything, but simply getting the advice daily from their zerg players will help him out for sure. He can return to NA with new ideas, new timings and builds to work on, and an outlook similar to a professional korean player. THERE IS NO DOWNSIDE TO THIS TRIP. | ||
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
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Haustka
United States221 Posts
i think i said this earlier but i will say it again, i respect destiny as player, but as high level player myself(just high master... i can easily get into top 8 spot if i wanted to, but not at the moment) i dont see much gain for destiny flying to Korea for only three weeks. it will give him a taste of what Korean pro gamers do sure.. but will that actually help him in playing sc2? that i have to criticize and say no. thats simply not enough time | ||
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theBizness
United States696 Posts
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annYeong(o11)
Canada784 Posts
On December 04 2011 04:14 chenchen wrote: If Morrow said that right after he arrived in Korea, he lost almost all of his practice games . . . . A big part of Destiny's time in Korea might just be him being completely crushed by various ST players. Well.... yeah. Korean teams work very hard on making ~6-8 players good out of a team of 15-20 players. If you aren't part of that top tier, you're probably going to be relegated to doing things like mastering a single build order so that July can work on his ZvZ. He'll be playing the same build game after game for a couple weeks. It's pretty much what he does right now only against better players. This is why I don't think 'skill-tourism' works effectively as practice. Now, if you only play 6 hours a day in NA, and play 16 hours a day in KR, of course the trip will help you get better, of course you'll come home and say "yeah, it really helped my game". But I think those 16 hours would be just as - if not more - effective in NA, with NA players, speaking english, talking about the game. I'd actually really love to study this because how people learn is a huge turn on for me. | ||
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nakedsurfer
Canada500 Posts
On December 04 2011 02:17 TheDraken wrote: my god. so many people have some stick up their ass about destiny's improvement. everything the guy does there's always a crowd of people sitting there saying "destiny overrated. destiny not improving. destiny wasting time." just let the man do something for once without being so critical. It's because he's so popular so you'll always have the extreme haters/lovers and the people in between. I think 3 weeks to korea is good for anyone who takes sc2 seriously as long as your funded because it'll be a nice learning experience. You don't want to plan to go there for a long time and it's not what you expected or just not prepared for it(ex: Sheth) | ||
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Aurorajp
Canada43 Posts
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eXeRicH
Germany89 Posts
I was like, with Stephano?? :D cool surprise | ||
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HighlyToxic
France101 Posts
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WigglyBitsSC
United States4 Posts
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Arkan
Canada78 Posts
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ashLoo
United States202 Posts
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KoDo
United States683 Posts
destiny 48% on korea ladder during his 3 weeks there i vote under. | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On December 04 2011 06:30 eXigent. wrote: [...] THERE IS NO DOWNSIDE TO THIS TRIP. Yes there it, it costs money. Anyways, is there any possibility of a partnership between QxG and ST? | ||
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eXigent.
Canada2419 Posts
On December 05 2011 05:10 JustPassingBy wrote: Yes there it, it costs money. Anyways, is there any possibility of a partnership between QxG and ST? Destiny doesn't pay for the trip, his sponsors do, willingly. Not to mention he will be streaming and making bank from ad revenue while staying there. So what exactly are you talking about? | ||
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eohs
United States677 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On December 05 2011 05:24 SeizeTheDay wrote: Still amazes me on how popular he was and not great results I am not hating on him just very very interesting that ppl gives him so much attention over say a payer like Sen. Just because of a personality. Like I said not hating hope he does well. GL To be fair Sen likes to hide in Taiwan and appears briefly to beat everyone up and the SC2 fanbase can be fairly fickle with players so he often slips from everyone's mind. Still I don't see anything wrong with this, July can teach him how to ultra refine a baneling bust. | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On December 05 2011 05:24 SeizeTheDay wrote: Still amazes me on how popular he was and not great results I am not hating on him just very very interesting that ppl gives him so much attention over say a player like Sen. Just because of a personality. Like I said not hating hope he does well. GL not only was, still is and always will be if you ask me. anyways, it's probably because the foreign scene don't hold skill to such high esteem compard to the korean one. at least if you are to believe what lastshadow talks about the korean scene. though, korea sure has its amount streamers known for their entertainment as well, what was that nutjob from bw again? ^^" | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On December 05 2011 05:40 JustPassingBy wrote: not only was, still is and always will be if you ask me. anyways, it's probably because the foreign scene don't hold skill to such high esteem compard to the korean one. at least if you are to believe what lastshadow talks about the korean scene. though, korea sure has its amount streamers known for their entertainment as well, what was that nutjob from bw again? ^^" 1a2a3a fou? | ||
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Sgonzo
Canada202 Posts
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Sgonzo
Canada202 Posts
On December 05 2011 05:24 SeizeTheDay wrote: Still amazes me on how popular he was and not great results I am not hating on him just very very interesting that ppl gives him so much attention over say a player like Sen. Just because of a personality. Like I said not hating hope he does well. GL i would rather cheer for some pro i like(who doesnt make great showings all the time) then some douche that just wins all the time | ||
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rontol
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Yonnua
United Kingdom2331 Posts
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Xiron
Germany1233 Posts
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MattO1337
United States203 Posts
He's going to spend more time streaming Kr ladder than practicing. Nobody will watch his stream because it is on own3d.tv He won't get any better He will still go 0-2 in MLG open brackets. | ||
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LavendrGooms
United States134 Posts
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Fallen.Fuhrer
Canada11 Posts
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eleaf
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Supamang
United States2298 Posts
On December 05 2011 08:13 MattO1337 wrote: I'll tell you exactly how it's going to go. He's going to spend more time streaming Kr ladder than practicing. Nobody will watch his stream because it is on own3d.tv He won't get any better He will still go 0-2 in MLG open brackets. nice positive attitude you got there. i dont know how its gonna go but i hope the best for destiny | ||
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Seiferz
United States640 Posts
On December 05 2011 08:13 MattO1337 wrote: I'll tell you exactly how it's going to go. He's going to spend more time streaming Kr ladder than practicing. Nobody will watch his stream because it is on own3d.tv He won't get any better He will still go 0-2 in MLG open brackets. Here's a sensible persons version: He's going to play a lottt of games, ladder and customs He's going to make more revenue because own3d gives more money per ad and people want to see him vs koreans He's going to get better than he would have if he stayed in america for 3 weeks He still may not show results at MLG but this trip certainly won't hurt his results best of luck destiny | ||
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
On December 05 2011 08:13 MattO1337 wrote: I'll tell you exactly how it's going to go. He's going to spend more time streaming Kr ladder than practicing. Nobody will watch his stream because it is on own3d.tv He won't get any better He will still go 0-2 in MLG open brackets. He will stream KR ladder because his fans are in love with the idea of him being a pro and they will tune in His fans will watch him on own3d.tv even if it is kind of crappy and he will get his extra couple cents per 1000 He won't get any better He will still go 0-2 in MLG open brackets and still make more money than 98% of SC2 pros | ||
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People_0f_Color
177 Posts
On December 05 2011 08:44 floor exercise wrote: He will stream KR ladder because his fans are in love with the idea of him being a pro and they will tune in His fans will watch him on own3d.tv even if it is kind of crappy and he will get his extra couple cents per 1000 He won't get any better He will still go 0-2 in MLG open brackets and still make more money than 98% of SC2 pros How are you people saying this stuff? Are you psychic? Are you looking into the future? What if he played 16 hours a day every day, what then? The point is, you don't know what Destiny will and won't do. If he is willing to pick up and leave the country for three weeks for Starcraft (more then you have done), then it is impossible to know what else he will do for Starcraft in those three weeks. All anyone should be doing is wishing him luck and hoping this trip is fruitful for him. But stop acting like a false prophet from the future just because you get off on gambling on cynicism and ending up right. If more people gambled like you, there would be no Starcraft scene. | ||
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
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Doof
United States204 Posts
On December 05 2011 09:22 floor exercise wrote: I'm not being cynical, he's incredibly successful at what he does and I'm as happy for a stranger as I can be. But he's not a pro gamer, the only people who still don't seem to know that yet are his fans. If you think winning a tournament is of a higher priority to him than his stream revenue you're fooling yourself. Destiny is a guy who made SC2 his career, which is cool. Destiny fans are like people invested in a reality TV show under the belief that it isn't all scripted, and 3 weeks in Korea isn't just a new plotline from the producer. That's exactly what I thought when I first heard about this too, but maybe that's not right. I mean as of the past 2-3 months Destiny has really been trying to up his game and take it more seriously. He's joined a real pro team, and he goes to basically every MLG now. He has taken his celebrity from streaming and is using it to get his foot in the door of the pro scene. I think this move time in Korea could be a legitimate move to get more than his foot in the door. Now, 3 weeks isn't going to make him the next Sase or Thorzain, but it's certainly going to give him a taste for real competition. Playing on KR will make him look worse to his fans. He's going to get killed by no name Koreans left and right. He wouldn't do this if he weren't serious about upping his game. At least, I hope. | ||
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Doctor.Ownage
United States39 Posts
He is an professional entertainer , not a professional gamer. Anyways, This should be sick entertainment! Cant wait to see if hes allowed to stream inhouse games, that would be sick! | ||
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montysaurus
United States27 Posts
On December 04 2011 09:36 theBizness wrote: Has it ever occurred to people that depending on how this trip goes, there may be more/longer ones in the future? Apparently not. exactly. this could be a trial run. He has a kid, he cant just jump on a never ending korea trip without knowing how it works. he could possibly do 3 on 3 off in the future if he likes it, or any other schedule but someone who is a father cant just up and leave. | ||
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RogerX
New Zealand3180 Posts
This is supposed to be about Destiny but some guy comes in and nitpicks incontrol for saying something that isn't even offensive. Causing a ridiculous amount of uneeded drama with clearly idiotic reasons in the wrong thread. I wish something could happen to users like that, its just plain annoying. But anyway; Congrats to Destiny! I'm a fan and I hope you'll benefit the best but also relax and see and experience the marvelous cultural sites of korea | ||
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zZippo
Russian Federation13 Posts
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H1STORY
Canada35 Posts
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CrustyOldSeaman
Netherlands19 Posts
On December 05 2011 21:32 zZippo wrote: why did he switch to own3d anyway ? $$$ | ||
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ohokurwrong
Brazil283 Posts
i dont expect him to become better like HUK but we see | ||
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SadMachine
United States98 Posts
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d00p
711 Posts
And yes, he has probably lost more than won against actual pros, but It's simply stupid to claim that he isn't "a decent player". He is good and has a fun personality. He has worked hard. He deserves everything good coming to him. Fuck the haters. | ||
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d00p
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Bd.Snake
Australia163 Posts
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Marcuz
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eLeBrice
Canada1 Post
On December 03 2011 05:26 shtdisturbance wrote: Great news! I thought destiny had a kid tho? He does. | ||
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icclown
Denmark270 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:20 Yaki wrote: Not everybody gets the chance to live in the same house as Julyzerg. I guess he has to learn to fight for his food now ^_^ ... 'cause you know... july Z is big... right.... Anyways hf to all! (also to julyzerg! big fan of him since before he won his first starleague!) | ||
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SadMachine
United States98 Posts
On December 06 2011 02:05 d00p wrote: Let's see. In the last couple of months he has beaten Tyler, Incontrol, TSL_Rain, SlayersGolden and Sheth (has also gotten his ass kicked by him and a bunch of Koreans). Tyler and Incontrol are two of the worst pro-gamers in the world who often get beaten by no-name players in MLG open brackets etc., SlayersGolden hasn't even made a dent in the code A qualifiers, and against Sheth that's a pretty volatile MU and as you said he also got owned by Sheth recently as well. As I said in my previous post, I hope that he gets better in Korea because we need more good foreigners, but up to this point his "career" has basically been a joke that only exists because a bunch of people like to watch him be BM on the ladder... | ||
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darkscream
Canada2310 Posts
Well neither are you bro. When you get out of platinum league maybe you'll understand going to korea is an awesome opportunity for anybody and you shouldn't be such dicks. | ||
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Reikon
Canada16 Posts
On December 05 2011 15:24 Doctor.Ownage wrote: ^^ stop trying to convince yourself that destiny cares about how anything other then the income that his stream offers him. He is an professional entertainer , not a professional gamer. Anyways, This should be sick entertainment! Cant wait to see if hes allowed to stream inhouse games, that would be sick! I may be assuming a little here but it seems like you base this on the fact that he does not seem to have many tournament results. Destiny is a gamer first and an entertainer second, he said this himself. He got offered many chances to do some co-casting and other such "entertainment" like things but he refuses them because he is a gamer first. A lot of what I see him do is improve himself as a gamer but because he is also an entertainer, it hinders his progress somewhat as a gamer. | ||
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halfies
United Kingdom327 Posts
On December 06 2011 06:39 Reikon wrote: I may be assuming a little here but it seems like you base this on the fact that he does not seem to have many tournament results. Destiny is a gamer first and an entertainer second, he said this himself. He got offered many chances to do some co-casting and other such "entertainment" like things but he refuses them because he is a gamer first. A lot of what I see him do is improve himself as a gamer but because he is also an entertainer, it hinders his progress somewhat as a gamer. destiny might be a gamer, but you can be in bronze league and still be a gamer. he streams to make money, and anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded. i also think he makes more from streaming than he would make as a caster, because he wouldn't be good enough to cast any really big tournaments, just because hes BM, and thats probably the reason why he has the fans he does. | ||
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KentHenry
United States260 Posts
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[17]Purple
United Kingdom3489 Posts
On December 06 2011 06:48 halfies wrote: destiny might be a gamer, but you can be in bronze league and still be a gamer. he streams to make money, and anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded. i also think he makes more from streaming than he would make as a caster, because he wouldn't be good enough to cast any really big tournaments, just because hes BM, and thats probably the reason why he has the fans he does. Despite being Destiny being BM, he really didn't garner his fans because of that. It was more of his more intriguing and intresting play during the start of his career and he does show willingness to improve and despite many classifiying him as an entertainer, who's to say he isn't trying to improve as a player as well? Does improving as a player make you less of an entertainer? Does becoming a better player net you less viewers? I can only see it getting higher and his stay in Korea should make him a better player. | ||
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Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
On December 06 2011 05:11 SadMachine wrote: Tyler and Incontrol are two of the worst pro-gamers in the world who often get beaten by no-name players in MLG open brackets etc., SlayersGolden hasn't even made a dent in the code A qualifiers, and against Sheth that's a pretty volatile MU and as you said he also got owned by Sheth recently as well. As I said in my previous post, I hope that he gets better in Korea because we need more good foreigners, but up to this point his "career" has basically been a joke that only exists because a bunch of people like to watch him be BM on the ladder... Incontrol and Tyler aren't top notch progamers right now but neither have lost to no name players in the MLG open bracket. Get your facts straight man. | ||
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Sgonzo
Canada202 Posts
On December 06 2011 06:48 halfies wrote: destiny might be a gamer, but you can be in bronze league and still be a gamer. he streams to make money, and anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded. i also think he makes more from streaming than he would make as a caster, because he wouldn't be good enough to cast any really big tournaments, just because hes BM, and thats probably the reason why he has the fans he does. eveyrbody streams to make moeny go on twitch click sc2 and see how many people get no viewers but still stream in the hopes of building up a afnbase for loots, cmon this is the most herp derp arguement ever, destiny isnt a pro gamer because he likes ot make money streaming herp derp..... wheres the logic i bet he roflstomps you in a game | ||
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OPL3SA2
United States378 Posts
On December 06 2011 08:30 Sgonzo wrote: eveyrbody streams to make moeny go on twitch click sc2 and see how many people get no viewers but still stream in the hopes of building up a afnbase for loots, cmon this is the most herp derp arguement ever, destiny isnt a pro gamer because he likes ot make money streaming herp derp..... wheres the logic i bet he roflstomps you in a game Your argument lacks merit. Being a professional in anything by dictionary defintion terms means you make a certain percentage of your total income through it. I forget the exact percentage, I think it's above 50% if i'm not mistaken. I'm pretty sure Steven Bonnell makes 50% of his incoming through streaming, so it's safe to call him a professional gamer (even before he joined a professional gaming team). Your argument lacks merit | ||
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JayDee_
548 Posts
On December 06 2011 08:30 Sgonzo wrote: eveyrbody streams to make moeny go on twitch click sc2 and see how many people get no viewers but still stream in the hopes of building up a afnbase for loots, cmon this is the most herp derp arguement ever, destiny isnt a pro gamer because he likes ot make money streaming herp derp..... wheres the logic i bet he roflstomps you in a game imo Destinys stream popularity is hurting his progress. It's keeping him from focusing on improving as a player. It's impossible to compete with players who train Korean style 24/7 if your training regimen consists of roflstomping mid masters level players for the delight of stream viewers. Hopefully Korea will help improve his training methods. | ||
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lisward
Singapore959 Posts
make money from playing competitively (make a living). From what I hear and gather though, about his play style, work ethic, is that he has talent, but he's incredibly stubborn. Like how he's unwilling to take criticism for his builds and all that, and better off practicing alone. Catz said before that he would tell Destiny that he had the most shit builds, and other progamers would agree, such as Sheth etc, but he wouldn't take any of their advice. I could be wrong though and maybe he's just here to entertain. | ||
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Brainling
United States660 Posts
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People_0f_Color
177 Posts
On December 06 2011 07:00 [17]Purple wrote: Despite being Destiny being BM, he really didn't garner his fans because of that. It was more of his more intriguing and intresting play during the start of his career and he does show willingness to improve and despite many classifiying him as an entertainer, who's to say he isn't trying to improve as a player as well? Does improving as a player make you less of an entertainer? Does becoming a better player net you less viewers? I can only see it getting higher and his stay in Korea should make him a better player. Exactly! They aren't mutually exclusive. | ||
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xAPOCALYPSEx
1418 Posts
On December 06 2011 07:01 Angelbelow wrote: Incontrol and Tyler aren't top notch progamers right now but neither have lost to no name players in the MLG open bracket. Get your facts straight man. To be fair (and seriously just to be fair, I'm basically as far as you can get from a Destiny fan), a huge reason this happened is because for the vast majority of the season, Incontrol and Tyler weren't in the open bracket. Not saying that they would've lost to nonames, but its worth pointing out. Anyways, imo this trip shouldn't happen at all. 3 weeks isn't really worth sending the guy out there for anyone imo, especially someone whose skills can still be honed on the NA ladder. quantic should wait and try and get a longer trip edit: but gl anyways | ||
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VectorCereal
Canada54 Posts
On December 06 2011 09:06 OPL3SA2 wrote: Your argument lacks merit. Being a professional in anything by dictionary defintion terms means you make a certain percentage of your total income through it. I forget the exact percentage, I think it's above 50% if i'm not mistaken. I'm pretty sure Steven Bonnell makes 50% of his incoming through streaming, so it's safe to call him a professional gamer (even before he joined a professional gaming team). Your argument lacks merit Your argument lacks truth. Look up the word 'professional' on google and link some sources where it says you make more than 50% of your income through a profession. By your definition many sports figures are NOT professionals because they make more money through advertising, sponsers and other various things. Most people are only arguing this because they want to troll/make destiny fans angry...Keep in mind that according to your incredibly flawed reasoning, if Idra started to stream 10 hours a day he would make considerably more money through ad revenue. Would he no longer be a pro gamer? | ||
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Sosweets
Canada70 Posts
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Olinimm
1471 Posts
On December 06 2011 07:01 Angelbelow wrote: Incontrol and Tyler aren't top notch progamers right now but neither have lost to no name players in the MLG open bracket. Get your facts straight man. Are you telling me you wouldn't describe "Binski" as a no name player? | ||
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RPR_Tempest
Australia7798 Posts
On December 06 2011 15:13 xAPOCALYPSEx wrote: To be fair (and seriously just to be fair, I'm basically as far as you can get from a Destiny fan), a huge reason this happened is because for the vast majority of the season, Incontrol and Tyler weren't in the open bracket. Not saying that they would've lost to nonames, but its worth pointing out. Anyways, imo this trip shouldn't happen at all. 3 weeks isn't really worth sending the guy out there for anyone imo, especially someone whose skills can still be honed on the NA ladder. quantic should wait and try and get a longer trip edit: but gl anyways You're half correct. iNcontroL was in pool play all season, except for Providence. Tyler, on the other hand, had, what? 2 or 3 out of 6 MLGs in pool play? He has never lost to no-names in open bracket. On the contrary, he has taken down some impressive players, such as choya. He has made it through the open bracket directly to pool play, so get your facts straight. EDIT: Okay, Binski. One time. WHOOOOOOA. And being taken out by no-names isn't exactly exclusive to Tyler. Polt, Oz, MajOr, these are all guys who have taken out by people who were, at the time, no-names. | ||
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Psyonic_Reaver
United States4332 Posts
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Detri
United Kingdom683 Posts
On December 06 2011 16:16 RPR_Tempest wrote: You're half correct. iNcontroL was in pool play all season, except for Providence. Tyler, on the other hand, had, what? 2 or 3 out of 6 MLGs in pool play? He has never lost to no-names in open bracket. On the contrary, he has taken down some impressive players, such as choya. He has made it through the open bracket directly to pool play, so get your facts straight. EDIT: Okay, Binski. One time. WHOOOOOOA. And being taken out by no-names isn't exactly exclusive to Tyler. Polt, Oz, MajOr, these are all guys who have taken out by people who were, at the time, no-names. heh, one of the best shut downs i have read. Well played sir. I also hate people spouting opinions as fact. I think tyler and incontrol have their best days infront of them, but they put so much time into producing stuff for the community i don't know how much quality practice they get in. All i know is i'll be cheering them on from infront of my PC | ||
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DoubleB
Germany870 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:23 iNcontroL wrote: oh stop people. 3 weeks will make him better but nobody is going to argue he will become the #1 foreign zerg in 3 weeks.. it's a great training period and a nice opportunity for a guy who hasn't been to korea to go to korea in the name of sc2.. just be happy for him. Incontrol, why don't you go to kor? Would love to see ya pwning em | ||
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xAPOCALYPSEx
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Drmooose
United States390 Posts
I think the trip to Korea will be a benefit to him. If nothing else at least he won't have to deal with Deezer, and he will get some uninterrupted time to focus on his play. Being a father is hard and distracting to his play and a little escape might really allow him to at least discover some new things to focus on. Good luck again! | ||
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Magorical
Australia23 Posts
Kind of a waste of money if you ask me. 3 weeks is not near enough time to do anything substantial. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On December 06 2011 07:00 [17]Purple wrote: Despite being Destiny being BM, he really didn't garner his fans because of that. It was more of his more intriguing and intresting play during the start of his career and he does show willingness to improve and despite many classifiying him as an entertainer, who's to say he isn't trying to improve as a player as well? Does improving as a player make you less of an entertainer? Does becoming a better player net you less viewers? I can only see it getting higher and his stay in Korea should make him a better player. Well I used to watch him a lot. But lately he screams a lot and says stupid stuff all the time. I cannot listen to him anymore. Before on his stream you would get different and fun tactics with him explaining what he is doing and what he is expecting (and it was fun to listen to his rage) and he would often have provoking discussion with people from the chat or others on his Skype. Now he just screams stupid shit and talks with others in a way that fits a 15year old, not a person around 22 with a child. Now I rather watch Catz. | ||
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GohgamX
Canada1096 Posts
On December 06 2011 19:11 The Reaper wrote: Only 3 weeks? And he can't stay longer because he has a kid now. Kind of a waste of money if you ask me. 3 weeks is not near enough time to do anything substantial. I kinda see your point but it is Korea and it does seem to have a magical effect on SC2 players.... | ||
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purpose
Sweden1017 Posts
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Sgonzo
Canada202 Posts
On December 06 2011 09:06 OPL3SA2 wrote: Your argument lacks merit. Being a professional in anything by dictionary defintion terms means you make a certain percentage of your total income through it. I forget the exact percentage, I think it's above 50% if i'm not mistaken. I'm pretty sure Steven Bonnell makes 50% of his incoming through streaming, so it's safe to call him a professional gamer (even before he joined a professional gaming team). Your argument lacks merit dude i was saying it is ridiculous to say Destiny isnt a pro gamer thnx for not reading, i was replyign to another post hence why i qouted them....... | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On December 06 2011 17:39 DoubleB wrote: Incontrol, why don't you go to kor? Would love to see ya pwning em He was once in Korea, I think. Actually at the very beginning of sc2. But not sure for what, he was only there briefly. edit: On December 05 2011 05:23 eXigent. wrote: Destiny doesn't pay for the trip, his sponsors do, willingly. Not to mention he will be streaming and making bank from ad revenue while staying there. So what exactly are you talking about? I'm saying that if you sponsor a flight for somebody, I'd rather see them sending somebody who can commit more. Not blaming Steve for only staying for three weeks, since he has a kid to take care of, actually I am pleasantly surprised that he is going at all. | ||
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Sabu113
United States11044 Posts
Don't think it will do much to produce actual results. Destiny's success began and will end with the infestor. He doesn't show the same sophistication in builds as other pros. That level of detail will be among others to keep him from producing. | ||
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Mrvoodoochild1
United States1439 Posts
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RoyGBiv_13
United States1275 Posts
On December 06 2011 11:44 Brainling wrote: I'm annoyed he switched to Own3D because I enjoyed watching him on my iPad as I rambled around the house or laid in bed. Oh well, his loss...I'll just stream someone else. This is the exact sentiments I have. I even bought a few months of JTV because the ads were causing cancer. Now I just watch other things on JTV | ||
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Havek
Denmark20 Posts
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blacksheepwall
China1530 Posts
For once I actually agree with Incontrol, which is a weird feeling. | ||
Staboteur
Canada1873 Posts
That said, I say this: The difference between a player like IdrA and a player like Destiny is that where IdrA plays to get good and win tournaments (and has a huge viewer audience because of it), Destiny plays to entertain streamwatchers (and attends tournaments / showmatches to maintain credibility (yes, he does have credibility)) Will Destiny benefit from going to Korea? Hell yeah. He'll become a better player with a better understanding of the game and more experience in general. Will he become a top-tier pro expected to place well at MLG/GSL/IPL/NASL? I doubt it, because it isn't his motivation to do so, and until his primary motivation isn't "Make money by being goddamn entertaining" I can't see Destiny working up the motivation to compete at the highest of levels. I mean, why should he? He's got a damn good thing going and is very well suited for what he does... why should he need to place well at MLG? It makes sense for all involved parties to do this. People -will- watch Destiny play in Korea and any involved sponsors -will- get word of their products out to viewers. It's a good thing for all parties involved, I just think it's important to note that the primary motivation isn't "Get Destiny good enough for #1 GM KOREA!", but "Use the skills of a talented and entertaining streamer to further the franchise and PROMOTE ESPORTS." I'm all for it. You gogogogoggogogo, Mr. Bonnell. | ||
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Littlemuff
United Kingdom301 Posts
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Eee
Sweden2712 Posts
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s0cce12
United States8 Posts
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ppshchik
United States862 Posts
With training in Korea Destiny will reach another level for sure. It will even be better if GSL gives Destiny a Code A spot or something, will definitely increase the viewers+revenues for GSL. | ||
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Elefanto
Switzerland3584 Posts
On December 08 2011 05:41 ppshchik wrote: It will even be better if GSL gives Destiny a Code A spot or something, will definitely increase the viewers+revenues for GSL. Yes, they certainly are going to give a Code A spot to a forth tier foreigner. | ||
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RaKooNs
United Kingdom397 Posts
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BroboCop
United States373 Posts
-his mechanics will improve slightly -he will still make infestors -if people make high templars or ghost and use any sense of control destiny will be in trouble still. nevertheless, gz and good luck to destiny. | ||
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tessem
United States23 Posts
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NEXUS6
United States413 Posts
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Holophonist
United States297 Posts
On December 08 2011 05:45 Elefanto wrote: Yes, they certainly are going to give a Code A spot to a forth tier foreigner. Get off your high horse, please. Destiny can and has taken games off of Haypro and Demuslim, both were given spots. | ||
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Rayjin
Germany205 Posts
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Nazeron
Canada1046 Posts
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Recognizable
Netherlands1552 Posts
On December 14 2011 04:21 Holophonist wrote: Get off your high horse, please. Destiny can and has taken games off of Haypro and Demuslim, both were given spots. I also have taken games of Haypro and Demuslim on ladder..... | ||
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darkscream
Canada2310 Posts
On December 19 2011 01:46 Recognizable wrote: I also have taken games of Haypro and Demuslim on ladder..... and if you were notable, and training a pro-gamer house, you could probably get a code A seed | ||
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[17]Purple
United Kingdom3489 Posts
On December 14 2011 04:26 Rayjin wrote: Is he still in Korea? Everytime is see him stream he plays LOL. Probably practising with FruitDealer with the Startale LoL team. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:23 iNcontroL wrote: oh stop people. 3 weeks will make him better but nobody is going to argue he will become the #1 foreign zerg in 3 weeks.. it's a great training period and a nice opportunity for a guy who hasn't been to korea to go to korea in the name of sc2.. just be happy for him. 3 weeks later.... Destiny wins every single tournament starting January. No, but all seriousness, is 3 weeks really going to help? If anything I could see it influencing his overall practice regiment when he comes back to the states, but in terms of radical improvement.... | ||
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tntrieu
United States19 Posts
On December 19 2011 01:50 wei2coolman wrote: 3 weeks later.... Destiny wins every single tournament starting January. No, but all seriousness, is 3 weeks really going to help? If anything I could see it influencing his overall practice regiment when he comes back to the states, but in terms of radical improvement.... Actually it just for 10 days. He arrived in Korea about a day ago. | ||
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raf3776
United States1904 Posts
On December 19 2011 01:50 wei2coolman wrote: 3 weeks later.... Destiny wins every single tournament starting January. No, but all seriousness, is 3 weeks really going to help? If anything I could see it influencing his overall practice regiment when he comes back to the states, but in terms of radical improvement.... He wont be the #1 zerg but there is going to be a jump in his play for sure | ||
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Hoodlum
United States350 Posts
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Versioned
United Kingdom73 Posts
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ArtisaBang
195 Posts
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mememolly
4765 Posts
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Arjofski
England43 Posts
On December 19 2011 01:58 tntrieu wrote: Actually it just for 10 days. He arrived in Korea about a day ago. Don't know where you got 10 days from, he is returning on the 9th of January. | ||
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JethroMoney
United States113 Posts
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AxeHero
Australia8 Posts
I wish his lots of luck, Go Destiny! | ||
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KingDime
Canada750 Posts
Also, I hate when people mention the people he has beaten, I've beaten demuslim idra etc which i will won't deny feels good but it does not make me a pro caliber player. Destiny needs to show results in the bigger tournaments which have not been there for him. | ||
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raf3776
United States1904 Posts
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andytb
United Kingdom180 Posts
On December 19 2011 02:14 Arjofski wrote: Don't know where you got 10 days from, he is returning on the 9th of January. After coming home from Korea, he's going to stay with Catz for a bit for Snowboarding. I think the 9th is when he arrives back in Nebraska. | ||
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nerfherder182
53 Posts
Thats just my opinion haha | ||
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SoKHo
Korea (South)1081 Posts
On December 19 2011 03:09 raf3776 wrote: I dont see why people think 3 weeks isnt a long time. Thats kinda like saying if you skip 3 weeks of school or a sport youll be fine. plus 3 weeks everyday practice will do a lot that's an awful analogy... 3 weeks is nothing, what is the point of going if you aren't going to stay 3 months + | ||
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Topdoller
United Kingdom3860 Posts
On December 19 2011 03:18 nerfherder182 wrote: Honestly i think destiny is a hardcore casual player, i just dont see him getting any better then he is now. QQ Thats just my opinion haha Kinda harsh on him there. I think it takes about 3 years or more of constant playing RTS games such as Startcraft or Warcraft 3 to become a top player. As far as i know he has a backround in nether, so 1 year in SC2 and he is making good progress as far as i can tell | ||
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
On December 19 2011 03:13 andytb wrote: After coming home from Korea, he's going to stay with Catz for a bit for Snowboarding. I think the 9th is when he arrives back in Nebraska. I thought he'd attend HomeStoryCup starting on the 5th? | ||
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ratzp0li
United States340 Posts
On December 19 2011 03:09 raf3776 wrote: I dont see why people think 3 weeks isnt a long time. Thats kinda like saying if you skip 3 weeks of school or a sport youll be fine. plus 3 weeks everyday practice will do a lot 3 weeks in korea is nothing compared to how much Huk, Idra, Sase, Naniwa, ect. are training. Also; playing Deus Ex, Skyrim, and LoL doesn't help either. | ||
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JoeAWESOME
Sweden1080 Posts
On December 19 2011 03:40 ratzp0li wrote: 3 weeks in korea is nothing compared to how much Huk, Idra, Sase, Naniwa, ect. are training. Also; playing Deus Ex, Skyrim, and LoL doesn't help either. Yeah, I feel that you need 3 months at the minimum. But to truly be the best I feel that you need to stay in korea most of the time, a lot like what Huk is doing. Talent + Hard work = success and Korea forces you to work hard (most of the time) And yeah, to play other games fairly often is not something you can do if you rly wanna focus on getting good at sc2. Sure, you can play it occasionally but not on regular basis | ||
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DrOmni
United States128 Posts
On December 19 2011 03:40 ratzp0li wrote: 3 weeks in korea is nothing compared to how much Huk, Idra, Sase, Naniwa, ect. are training. Also; playing Deus Ex, Skyrim, and LoL doesn't help either. It is still a substantial amount of time for someone to spend in a country to practice. Other players have the financial backing and lack of responsibility (not in a bad way) to stay there for much longer. As for the other games, other pros do this as well. Destiny just streams everything he does as a source of income. It helps to not get burnt out on starcraft. Besides, while he is in Korea it is highly unlikely he will play any other game. | ||
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sopas
509 Posts
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optical630
United Kingdom768 Posts
On December 19 2011 03:26 Topdoller wrote: Kinda harsh on him there. I think it takes about 3 years or more of constant playing RTS games such as Startcraft or Warcraft 3 to become a top player. As far as i know he has a backround in nether, so 1 year in SC2 and he is making good progress as far as i can tell he had played bw, no idea what rank though | ||
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dgwow
Canada1024 Posts
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WCX
74 Posts
On December 19 2011 03:09 raf3776 wrote: I dont see why people think 3 weeks isnt a long time. Thats kinda like saying if you skip 3 weeks of school or a sport youll be fine. plus 3 weeks everyday practice will do a lot really, it's all relative. sure 3 weeks will give some sort of a boost. but at an MLG, when he encounters a korean in the open bracket, he's gonna be going up against a guy who's been in that rigorous practice environment for months, if not years (if ex-bw player). 3 weeks ain't shit in that kind of scenario. | ||
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mprs
Canada2933 Posts
On December 19 2011 03:26 Topdoller wrote: Kinda harsh on him there. I think it takes about 3 years or more of constant playing RTS games such as Startcraft or Warcraft 3 to become a top player. As far as i know he has a backround in nether, so 1 year in SC2 and he is making good progress as far as i can tell The only thing you need to be good is the motivation and practice resources. The only thing you need to be a top player is what I said above and to enjoy the game. Destiny loves this game, and he is motivated to get better. Korea will do very well for him. | ||
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-_-
United States7081 Posts
I wonder if Destiny is a little frustrated with the fact that he lives off streaming. While he may well feel differently, if I was in his position, I would want to considered a player first. And he's said himself his goal is to improve. Living in Korea for a substantial period of time would be the best way to do that, but perhaps impossible with a child to support. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On December 19 2011 05:22 -_- wrote: I wonder if Destiny would be able to afford staying in Korea for more than 3 weeks. If Idra and Huk's stream numbers can be extrapolated on, Destiny will lose about 50% of his viewers when he streams during Korea time. I wonder if Destiny is a little frustrated with the fact that he lives off streaming. While he may well feel differently, if I was in his position, I would want to considered a player first. And he's said himself his goal is to improve. Living in Korea for a substantial period of time would be the best way to do that, but perhaps impossible with a child to support. Sure he'd like to be considered a player, but playing SC2 is his job... he supports himself off of it. You can think of his trip to Korea as a company sending its employee to some sort of job/skill training course. He's going to Korea for a month or so; he won't' become a top player because of it, but he will for sure improve even a little bit, but most importantly than the skill improvement, he will: a) have a lot of valuable experiences that he can share / communicate with his fanbase, which will keep them happy and probably attract new fans (this will directly contribute to him making more money when he streams after he returns), b) learn better practice routines, methods that he can take home with him that will allow him to improve as a player more when he gets back. So yes, while for 3 weeks or 1 month he might lose out on some money due to not being able to stream at good times, the experience, increase in skill, and lessons he will learn in Korea will more than make up for it I'm sure. | ||
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Forbidden17
666 Posts
On December 19 2011 04:22 optical630 wrote: he had played bw, no idea what rank though i think he said he played bw for fun and achieved highest B rank but didn't maintain it | ||
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QxGRockEr
United States191 Posts
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sackoftrout
United Kingdom6 Posts
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LambtrOn
United States671 Posts
On December 19 2011 06:40 sackoftrout wrote: I always find it confusing when players who are not at the very top of their server go to korea. Players like demuslim, i could definatly see benifiting from going to korea as the people they play on this server are not even good practice, but i feel like destiny will just get crushed and could get equally good practice if he didn't stream all the time and focused hard on practice in the US with members of his new team. I dont think it will hurt his play and it may be a fun trip but he's like a zergling attacking into some battle cruisers. To learn. Korea will not instantly make you a better player, but he will undoubtedly learn a lot that he can then use to help perfect his game. And who gives a shit if he's not top tier. It's really rude to say he shouldn't go over there. He is entitled to learn just as much as anyone else. Stop complaining and be happy. | ||
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sackoftrout
United Kingdom6 Posts
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Lysenko
Iceland2128 Posts
On December 19 2011 06:40 sackoftrout wrote: I always find it confusing when players who are not at the very top of their server go to korea. Players like demuslim, i could definatly see benifiting from going to korea as the people they play on this server are not even good practice, but i feel like destiny will just get crushed and could get equally good practice if he didn't stream all the time and focused hard on practice in the US with members of his new team. I dont think it will hurt his play and it may be a fun trip but he's like a zergling attacking into some battle cruisers. Though he hasn't been in GM every season, Destiny's been ranked #1 or #2 pretty consistently in his master league divisions, which puts him among the top 400 or so players on the NA server. I think it would be hard to argue that anyone in that range wouldn't benefit from focused practice in Korea. | ||
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sackoftrout
United Kingdom6 Posts
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Galleon.frigate
Canada721 Posts
On December 19 2011 06:40 sackoftrout wrote: I always find it confusing when players who are not at the very top of their server go to korea. Players like demuslim, i could definatly see benifiting from going to korea as the people they play on this server are not even good practice, but i feel like destiny will just get crushed and could get equally good practice if he didn't stream all the time and focused hard on practice in the US with members of his new team. I dont think it will hurt his play and it may be a fun trip but he's like a zergling attacking into some battle cruisers. well just going to korea, maybe not, but even still there is value hwoever staying in a pro teamhouse is a different level then just goin to korea. Not only will he have Korean ladder, he will make a ton of contacts, and hopefully find top notce partice partners, also be exposed to the training system of the best. Further the contact he makes there will even enhance his stream as I can see his #'s going up after he comes back during a practice session with julyzerg or any ST player (and players for other teams he will meet) | ||
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ratzp0li
United States340 Posts
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
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Eazyz
New Zealand84 Posts
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jupiter6
205 Posts
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On December 19 2011 19:57 -Archangel- wrote: When is he going? Is he already there? Because I seen him stream a lot of LoL lately, which is a complete waste of time if he was already in Korea. It would be like going to Manchester United training camp but playing basketball during that time. Dude FRUITDEALER plays LoL, Destiny should forget about SC2 and just play LoL with FruitDealer. | ||
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stapla05
Australia67 Posts
On December 19 2011 19:57 -Archangel- wrote: When is he going? Is he already there? Because I seen him stream a lot of LoL lately, which is a complete waste of time if he was already in Korea. It would be like going to Manchester United training camp but playing basketball during that time. I agree | ||
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cscarfo1
United States307 Posts
'Why the fuck would I go to the gym. I'll root for you when you're at the gym." lol | ||
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The Void
Germany428 Posts
On December 19 2011 20:30 ZAiNs wrote: Dude FRUITDEALER plays LoL, Destiny should forget about SC2 and just play LoL with FruitDealer. alone to think of it is disgusting. plz go away with LoL in all that other shit. there is only one game. e:typo | ||
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The Void
Germany428 Posts
On December 19 2011 19:57 -Archangel- wrote: When is he going? Is he already there? Because I seen him stream a lot of LoL lately, which is a complete waste of time if he was already in Korea. It would be like going to Manchester United training camp but playing basketball during that time. no, it's like playing playmobil. | ||
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enemy2010
Germany1972 Posts
Well, it's like playing basketball These are both ball games, like starcraft and LoL are both computer games. | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On December 19 2011 20:37 The Void wrote: alone to think of it is disgusting. plz go away with LoL in all that other shit. there is only one game. e:typo Just how developed is your neckbeard exactly? | ||
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The Void
Germany428 Posts
On December 19 2011 20:54 TotalBiscuit wrote: Just how developed is your neckbeard exactly? xD i don't mind if LoL player playing LoL, like i don't mind if kids playing playmobil. But if destiny is playing LoL too much, or even switch compleatly - i gotta puke. | ||
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Nick.TNA
209 Posts
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StrinterN
Denmark531 Posts
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Legat0
United States318 Posts
On December 26 2011 06:59 Nick.TNA wrote: So Destiny is streaming from Korea now. Did he literally just arrive? Anyone know? :D Grats Destiny, do work! He's been there for a week I believe now. | ||
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Slardar
Canada7593 Posts
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The Void
Germany428 Posts
On December 26 2011 07:28 Slardar wrote: Naniwer really ? also desti take very little advise and they are mainly BMing each other, and have much fun ^^ | ||
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
that's how you're supposed to pronounce it dude. | ||
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On December 26 2011 07:28 Slardar wrote: Training has seem to be paying dividends. He has coach Naniwer and hes holding his own over there. Impressive! If by holding his own you mean losing in about 3 minutes when he was sent out in IPL Team Arena....then yeah.....I agree. | ||
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Supamang
United States2298 Posts
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The Void
Germany428 Posts
On December 26 2011 08:02 KimJongChill wrote: that's how you're supposed to pronounce it dude. actually it's pronounce Naniwa, dude. | ||
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MentalGNT
Denmark1264 Posts
It's a joke. It started during HSC3 when TaKe(I believe) kept pronouncing it NaniWER. | ||
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The Void
Germany428 Posts
On December 26 2011 08:21 BansheeDK wrote: It's a joke. It started during HSC3 when TaKe(I believe) kept pronouncing it NaniWER. k, probably i missed it. but TaKe likes to pronounce wrong abolutly everything ... even in german. | ||
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Tukker
Canada13 Posts
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Grumbels
Netherlands7028 Posts
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Goatcraft
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Slardar
Canada7593 Posts
As for Destiny losing to a double bunker rush... well that happens on Shakuras, just watching him you can tell how quicker he is. | ||
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RusHXceL
United States1004 Posts
On December 26 2011 10:53 Goatcraft wrote: destiny will win the next mlg hands down yea man. i believe | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On December 26 2011 10:53 Goatcraft wrote: destiny will win the next mlg hands down Most likely, yeah. | ||
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TheAntZ
Israel6248 Posts
 Do you have any Romanian blood in you? | ||
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Altercate
Sweden75 Posts
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