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On December 05 2011 18:06 ODieN wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 18:02 Candide wrote:On December 05 2011 16:38 Euronyme wrote:On December 05 2011 13:27 FidoDido wrote:
What a lot of people don't understand is, IM was an independent team for the longest time, one of the only original SCII teams in Korea without a sponsor. It's clear their goal as a team is not to make money, but rather, just produce great players that win tournaments(Artosis commented on this before during a cast in GSL). People often mistake them for a team that is very private and very secretive, but they are really not. They are just a group of players who have a lot of passion for the sport and aren't going out of their way to capitalize off of it, in turn, they don't need as much exposure as other teams who are backed by big sponsors. So... Why did they join up with Quantic? Where are they expecting to get food from? Are they all hitting the streets to beg borrow and steal when one of them don't win the GSL? I call major BS on that. Everyone wants to make money, they're just not good at it. If they could get sponsors to cash out money for them there's no reason for them not to take the deal. Once again, that's why they joined up with Quantic. Uhh they are sponsored by coca cola... Free coke? :D On a more serious note, good luck to both parties.
From what I heard, its not really a joke as that's What the sponsorship is, free coke. IM is sponsored by someone else, something like a fast food chicken place I believe.
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The interview with fuck slasher was actually really good and informative, gives you a clear picture. So if you like me was confused I recommend checking out.
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On December 06 2011 11:50 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 18:06 ODieN wrote:On December 05 2011 18:02 Candide wrote:On December 05 2011 16:38 Euronyme wrote:On December 05 2011 13:27 FidoDido wrote:
What a lot of people don't understand is, IM was an independent team for the longest time, one of the only original SCII teams in Korea without a sponsor. It's clear their goal as a team is not to make money, but rather, just produce great players that win tournaments(Artosis commented on this before during a cast in GSL). People often mistake them for a team that is very private and very secretive, but they are really not. They are just a group of players who have a lot of passion for the sport and aren't going out of their way to capitalize off of it, in turn, they don't need as much exposure as other teams who are backed by big sponsors. So... Why did they join up with Quantic? Where are they expecting to get food from? Are they all hitting the streets to beg borrow and steal when one of them don't win the GSL? I call major BS on that. Everyone wants to make money, they're just not good at it. If they could get sponsors to cash out money for them there's no reason for them not to take the deal. Once again, that's why they joined up with Quantic. Uhh they are sponsored by coca cola... Free coke? :D On a more serious note, good luck to both parties. From what I heard, its not really a joke as that's What the sponsorship is, free coke. IM is sponsored by someone else, something like a fast food chicken place I believe.
I thought Prime was the one sponsored by the chicken place... unless IM's sponsored by one too, which isn't out of the question, but Prime's definitely the one "famous" for being so poor with sponsors that they had to get a chicken place to sponsor them.
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On December 06 2011 12:16 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 11:50 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 05 2011 18:06 ODieN wrote:On December 05 2011 18:02 Candide wrote:On December 05 2011 16:38 Euronyme wrote:On December 05 2011 13:27 FidoDido wrote:
What a lot of people don't understand is, IM was an independent team for the longest time, one of the only original SCII teams in Korea without a sponsor. It's clear their goal as a team is not to make money, but rather, just produce great players that win tournaments(Artosis commented on this before during a cast in GSL). People often mistake them for a team that is very private and very secretive, but they are really not. They are just a group of players who have a lot of passion for the sport and aren't going out of their way to capitalize off of it, in turn, they don't need as much exposure as other teams who are backed by big sponsors. So... Why did they join up with Quantic? Where are they expecting to get food from? Are they all hitting the streets to beg borrow and steal when one of them don't win the GSL? I call major BS on that. Everyone wants to make money, they're just not good at it. If they could get sponsors to cash out money for them there's no reason for them not to take the deal. Once again, that's why they joined up with Quantic. Uhh they are sponsored by coca cola... Free coke? :D On a more serious note, good luck to both parties. From what I heard, its not really a joke as that's What the sponsorship is, free coke. IM is sponsored by someone else, something like a fast food chicken place I believe. I thought Prime was the one sponsored by the chicken place... unless IM's sponsored by one too, which isn't out of the question, but Prime's definitely the one "famous" for being so poor with sponsors that they had to get a chicken place to sponsor them.
FYI oGs is the team sponsored by a chicken place (Mom's touch), Prime was sponsored by one in the past (Sabasaba), IM has Googims and Coca-Cola as sponsors
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On December 06 2011 12:47 pencil_ethics wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 12:16 babylon wrote:On December 06 2011 11:50 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 05 2011 18:06 ODieN wrote:On December 05 2011 18:02 Candide wrote:On December 05 2011 16:38 Euronyme wrote:On December 05 2011 13:27 FidoDido wrote:
What a lot of people don't understand is, IM was an independent team for the longest time, one of the only original SCII teams in Korea without a sponsor. It's clear their goal as a team is not to make money, but rather, just produce great players that win tournaments(Artosis commented on this before during a cast in GSL). People often mistake them for a team that is very private and very secretive, but they are really not. They are just a group of players who have a lot of passion for the sport and aren't going out of their way to capitalize off of it, in turn, they don't need as much exposure as other teams who are backed by big sponsors. So... Why did they join up with Quantic? Where are they expecting to get food from? Are they all hitting the streets to beg borrow and steal when one of them don't win the GSL? I call major BS on that. Everyone wants to make money, they're just not good at it. If they could get sponsors to cash out money for them there's no reason for them not to take the deal. Once again, that's why they joined up with Quantic. Uhh they are sponsored by coca cola... Free coke? :D On a more serious note, good luck to both parties. From what I heard, its not really a joke as that's What the sponsorship is, free coke. IM is sponsored by someone else, something like a fast food chicken place I believe. I thought Prime was the one sponsored by the chicken place... unless IM's sponsored by one too, which isn't out of the question, but Prime's definitely the one "famous" for being so poor with sponsors that they had to get a chicken place to sponsor them. FYI oGs is the team sponsored by a chicken place (Mom's touch), Prime was sponsored by one in the past (Sabasaba), IM has Googims and Coca-Cola as sponsors
I'd say that IM has the best sponsors, in Coca Cola alone.
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Since this is a mutual breakup, the title of this article should be "Quantic and IM part ways", rather than saying that one parted ways with the other.
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Huh... not clear why they broke up.
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On December 06 2011 11:50 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 18:06 ODieN wrote:On December 05 2011 18:02 Candide wrote:On December 05 2011 16:38 Euronyme wrote:On December 05 2011 13:27 FidoDido wrote:
What a lot of people don't understand is, IM was an independent team for the longest time, one of the only original SCII teams in Korea without a sponsor. It's clear their goal as a team is not to make money, but rather, just produce great players that win tournaments(Artosis commented on this before during a cast in GSL). People often mistake them for a team that is very private and very secretive, but they are really not. They are just a group of players who have a lot of passion for the sport and aren't going out of their way to capitalize off of it, in turn, they don't need as much exposure as other teams who are backed by big sponsors. So... Why did they join up with Quantic? Where are they expecting to get food from? Are they all hitting the streets to beg borrow and steal when one of them don't win the GSL? I call major BS on that. Everyone wants to make money, they're just not good at it. If they could get sponsors to cash out money for them there's no reason for them not to take the deal. Once again, that's why they joined up with Quantic. Uhh they are sponsored by coca cola... Free coke? :D On a more serious note, good luck to both parties. From what I heard, its not really a joke as that's What the sponsorship is, free coke. IM is sponsored by someone else, something like a fast food chicken place I believe.
Well Quantic payed their tickets to the US, didn't they? All Korean teams are super poor. Remember the NASL or dreamhack thing (can't remember which.. maybe it was both) where they wanted the organization to pay literally everything plus some more. The Korean teams are broke. That's why they joined up with western teams. It's not some kind of partnership. Why do you think IM would want to partner up with SaSe and Destiny? They just want whatever money's in the organization.
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On December 06 2011 12:47 pencil_ethics wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 12:16 babylon wrote:On December 06 2011 11:50 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 05 2011 18:06 ODieN wrote:On December 05 2011 18:02 Candide wrote:On December 05 2011 16:38 Euronyme wrote:On December 05 2011 13:27 FidoDido wrote:
What a lot of people don't understand is, IM was an independent team for the longest time, one of the only original SCII teams in Korea without a sponsor. It's clear their goal as a team is not to make money, but rather, just produce great players that win tournaments(Artosis commented on this before during a cast in GSL). People often mistake them for a team that is very private and very secretive, but they are really not. They are just a group of players who have a lot of passion for the sport and aren't going out of their way to capitalize off of it, in turn, they don't need as much exposure as other teams who are backed by big sponsors. So... Why did they join up with Quantic? Where are they expecting to get food from? Are they all hitting the streets to beg borrow and steal when one of them don't win the GSL? I call major BS on that. Everyone wants to make money, they're just not good at it. If they could get sponsors to cash out money for them there's no reason for them not to take the deal. Once again, that's why they joined up with Quantic. Uhh they are sponsored by coca cola... Free coke? :D On a more serious note, good luck to both parties. From what I heard, its not really a joke as that's What the sponsorship is, free coke. IM is sponsored by someone else, something like a fast food chicken place I believe. I thought Prime was the one sponsored by the chicken place... unless IM's sponsored by one too, which isn't out of the question, but Prime's definitely the one "famous" for being so poor with sponsors that they had to get a chicken place to sponsor them. FYI oGs is the team sponsored by a chicken place (Mom's touch), Prime was sponsored by one in the past (Sabasaba), IM has Googims and Coca-Cola as sponsors
Ah thats right, Googims.
On December 06 2011 13:00 GreEny K wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 12:47 pencil_ethics wrote:On December 06 2011 12:16 babylon wrote:On December 06 2011 11:50 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 05 2011 18:06 ODieN wrote:On December 05 2011 18:02 Candide wrote:On December 05 2011 16:38 Euronyme wrote:On December 05 2011 13:27 FidoDido wrote:
What a lot of people don't understand is, IM was an independent team for the longest time, one of the only original SCII teams in Korea without a sponsor. It's clear their goal as a team is not to make money, but rather, just produce great players that win tournaments(Artosis commented on this before during a cast in GSL). People often mistake them for a team that is very private and very secretive, but they are really not. They are just a group of players who have a lot of passion for the sport and aren't going out of their way to capitalize off of it, in turn, they don't need as much exposure as other teams who are backed by big sponsors. So... Why did they join up with Quantic? Where are they expecting to get food from? Are they all hitting the streets to beg borrow and steal when one of them don't win the GSL? I call major BS on that. Everyone wants to make money, they're just not good at it. If they could get sponsors to cash out money for them there's no reason for them not to take the deal. Once again, that's why they joined up with Quantic. Uhh they are sponsored by coca cola... Free coke? :D On a more serious note, good luck to both parties. From what I heard, its not really a joke as that's What the sponsorship is, free coke. IM is sponsored by someone else, something like a fast food chicken place I believe. I thought Prime was the one sponsored by the chicken place... unless IM's sponsored by one too, which isn't out of the question, but Prime's definitely the one "famous" for being so poor with sponsors that they had to get a chicken place to sponsor them. FYI oGs is the team sponsored by a chicken place (Mom's touch), Prime was sponsored by one in the past (Sabasaba), IM has Googims and Coca-Cola as sponsors I'd say that IM has the best sponsors, in Coca Cola alone.
Except that the Coca Cola sponsor is pretty much worthless. Pretty sure that its because of Nestea. If they were a sponsor worth mentioning, they would have a logo on the IM jerseys.
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On December 06 2011 16:43 Euronyme wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 11:50 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 05 2011 18:06 ODieN wrote:On December 05 2011 18:02 Candide wrote:On December 05 2011 16:38 Euronyme wrote:On December 05 2011 13:27 FidoDido wrote:
What a lot of people don't understand is, IM was an independent team for the longest time, one of the only original SCII teams in Korea without a sponsor. It's clear their goal as a team is not to make money, but rather, just produce great players that win tournaments(Artosis commented on this before during a cast in GSL). People often mistake them for a team that is very private and very secretive, but they are really not. They are just a group of players who have a lot of passion for the sport and aren't going out of their way to capitalize off of it, in turn, they don't need as much exposure as other teams who are backed by big sponsors. So... Why did they join up with Quantic? Where are they expecting to get food from? Are they all hitting the streets to beg borrow and steal when one of them don't win the GSL? I call major BS on that. Everyone wants to make money, they're just not good at it. If they could get sponsors to cash out money for them there's no reason for them not to take the deal. Once again, that's why they joined up with Quantic. Uhh they are sponsored by coca cola... Free coke? :D On a more serious note, good luck to both parties. From what I heard, its not really a joke as that's What the sponsorship is, free coke. IM is sponsored by someone else, something like a fast food chicken place I believe. Well Quantic payed their tickets to the US, didn't they? All Korean teams are super poor. Remember the NASL or dreamhack thing (can't remember which.. maybe it was both) where they wanted the organization to pay literally everything plus some more. The Korean teams are broke. That's why they joined up with western teams. It's not some kind of partnership. Why do you think IM would want to partner up with SaSe and Destiny? They just want whatever money's in the organization.
Well MVP and Nestea should have had their flights and hotels paid for by MLG because of the MLG Global Invitational. I'm pretty sure travel and hotel was included in that. Quantic probably paid for Losira to come though as well as miscellaneous stuff from MVP and Nestea. Of course Quantic was paying IM though. Korean teams do lack funding. I'm just guessing here, but these is my thoughts of what Quantic was doing for IM. They provided foreign travel costs and paid for any costs that their players (Sase and Destiny) had at the IM house. I don't think it was a massive deal that IM was able to improve their financial situation. And with MVP and Nestea not enjoying Providence, they probably will just skip foreign tournaments or go to ones that they don't get a full ride too, making Quantic pretty much useless to them.
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On December 05 2011 15:28 TheyCallMePops wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 09:52 Elefanto wrote:On December 05 2011 09:20 Legio wrote:On December 05 2011 03:20 Klonere wrote:On December 05 2011 01:00 JustPassingBy wrote:On December 05 2011 00:25 ReachTheSky wrote:On December 04 2011 23:58 Legio wrote:
Can we get some Team Liquid independent news coverage on this news? This is just a fluff piece, from the parties involved.
Was there drama involved? Did Quantic not pay their bills? Was Nestea disappointed in the quality of the Quantic team? What does this mean for future deals between Korea and Foreign teams? Will Destiny and SaSe still stay with Quantic after this huge disappointment?
We need some hard hitting journalism here. Where is it? If you payed any attention to the calendar as of late you would have noticed that the owner of quantic was on @#$% Slasher talking about all the details. That was your coverage. Sorry, but please don't think that just because it airs in an alright time for the states that everybody is able to watch it. edit: so is there anywhere, where I can reread what was said in the show? http://tv.majorleaguegaming.com/videos/80030-slasher-12-2-11-quantic-im-split-interviewthere is the full interview. I think the most revealing comment is SaSe's, he really thinks highly of the Quantic organisation, going as far as to call it the best team he has ever been on, and this is coming from a guy who has been in esports as a player for a long time with a lot of very prestigious organisations like MYM and SK. I think Quantic are legit and the partnership fell apart because IM were not too keen on being more public with their players, be for shows, replay packs and streams. Have we ever seen an IM player stream? 1. QxC shipped Nestea and MVP to Providence, they had a bad experience there and freaked out causing the IM/QxC venture to implode. I don't know what's up with most of the Koreans, but they seem to have incredible difficulties in dealing with the western world. I'd like to know what that "bad experience" was. Weren't they treated like celebrities and didn't get their extra wishes? Since NASL I'm really wary about them when something happens. They were jet lagged pretty bad and I'm sure the Open Bracket-style of grinding games all day doesn't play into their experience very well. Also, from what I've heard (latest SOTG supports this) the player treatment at MLG isn't nearly as good as it could be and because of the hectic experience of MLG weekends it's very hard for players to feel comfortable. When players are delayed starting games (look @ Nestea + Blizzcon) and stuff like that it throws off their mindset and their rhythm.
And this is why MC gets invited to just about everything. He handles the ups and downs of each tournament so well.
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On December 06 2011 17:39 Battousai13 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 15:28 TheyCallMePops wrote:On December 05 2011 09:52 Elefanto wrote:On December 05 2011 09:20 Legio wrote:On December 05 2011 03:20 Klonere wrote:On December 05 2011 01:00 JustPassingBy wrote:On December 05 2011 00:25 ReachTheSky wrote:On December 04 2011 23:58 Legio wrote:
Can we get some Team Liquid independent news coverage on this news? This is just a fluff piece, from the parties involved.
Was there drama involved? Did Quantic not pay their bills? Was Nestea disappointed in the quality of the Quantic team? What does this mean for future deals between Korea and Foreign teams? Will Destiny and SaSe still stay with Quantic after this huge disappointment?
We need some hard hitting journalism here. Where is it? If you payed any attention to the calendar as of late you would have noticed that the owner of quantic was on @#$% Slasher talking about all the details. That was your coverage. Sorry, but please don't think that just because it airs in an alright time for the states that everybody is able to watch it. edit: so is there anywhere, where I can reread what was said in the show? http://tv.majorleaguegaming.com/videos/80030-slasher-12-2-11-quantic-im-split-interviewthere is the full interview. I think the most revealing comment is SaSe's, he really thinks highly of the Quantic organisation, going as far as to call it the best team he has ever been on, and this is coming from a guy who has been in esports as a player for a long time with a lot of very prestigious organisations like MYM and SK. I think Quantic are legit and the partnership fell apart because IM were not too keen on being more public with their players, be for shows, replay packs and streams. Have we ever seen an IM player stream? 1. QxC shipped Nestea and MVP to Providence, they had a bad experience there and freaked out causing the IM/QxC venture to implode. I don't know what's up with most of the Koreans, but they seem to have incredible difficulties in dealing with the western world. I'd like to know what that "bad experience" was. Weren't they treated like celebrities and didn't get their extra wishes? Since NASL I'm really wary about them when something happens. They were jet lagged pretty bad and I'm sure the Open Bracket-style of grinding games all day doesn't play into their experience very well. Also, from what I've heard (latest SOTG supports this) the player treatment at MLG isn't nearly as good as it could be and because of the hectic experience of MLG weekends it's very hard for players to feel comfortable. When players are delayed starting games (look @ Nestea + Blizzcon) and stuff like that it throws off their mindset and their rhythm. And this is why MC gets invited to just about everything. He handles the ups and downs of each tournament so well.
MC is also under the oGs/SK partnership (along with NaDa), so all his travel expenses are underwritten already.
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I'm sad to hear this, but not entirely surprised. IM, hosting two of the world's best players, pairing up with the relatively underpowered Quantic didn't seem like a great merger.... IM+EG though.....
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They should totally get back together as they are dominating this tournament and Naniwa is truly the top toss IM needs.
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Sorry for bumping this thread abit, but can someone explain. The two teams still seem to be working together and most players still go by QIM even from the IM players. For example they are playing as QIM in the Ign thing going on right now. Did they not actually split or what?
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On December 20 2011 10:43 Hydrox911 wrote:
Sorry for bumping this thread abit, but can someone explain. The two teams still seem to be working together and most players still go by QIM even from the IM players. For example they are playing as QIM in the Ign thing going on right now. Did they not actually split or what?
They play as QIM because it started when they were still together, so they will do the whole tournament as QIM
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On December 20 2011 10:43 Hydrox911 wrote:
Sorry for bumping this thread abit, but can someone explain. The two teams still seem to be working together and most players still go by QIM even from the IM players. For example they are playing as QIM in the Ign thing going on right now. Did they not actually split or what?
I believe that on the page for the ign league it talks about this. Quantic and IM are counted as one team for the remainder of the season. They are otherwise split.
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God damn, I just read "Quantic Media parts ways with...". Reaction: Aww shit Naniwa, not again?
Now, lucky enough it wasen't that.
Hope both teams find new partners! Cheers!
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