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.Sic.
Profile Joined February 2011
Korea (South)497 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-15 05:31:52
November 15 2011 05:30 GMT
#441
I have no other words to describe this situation other than: "these two are fucking retarded"

Wait, they're pretty young players... kinda explains their immaturity.
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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
November 15 2011 05:30 GMT
#442
On November 15 2011 14:17 Vindicare605 wrote:
What?!


When the hell did all of this happen!?
Just a couple of hours ago. The reaction was instant! -- literally instant! -- That's why I think it's prone to overreaction and bad judgement from "the authorities".

Currently all I see is a player who has a real shot at winning the GSL, being discarded to oblivion without solid reason.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
SilentShout
Profile Joined March 2011
686 Posts
November 15 2011 05:31 GMT
#443
So is anyone going to be his replacement in his GSL group? Or it simply won't be played? I for one, vote for Polt to take the spot.
BennyTurner
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia49 Posts
November 15 2011 05:31 GMT
#444
On November 15 2011 12:49 motbob wrote: Oh look, it's a thread making the worst accusation that you can make in ESPORTS with no proof.


Maybe thread shouldn't have been closed after all eh?
I suggest that the anthropomorphic god-idea is not a harmless infirmity of human thought, but a very noxious fallacy, which is largely responsible for the calamities the world is at present enduring
JunkkaGom
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)855 Posts
November 15 2011 05:32 GMT
#445
On November 15 2011 14:28 setzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 14:25 jinixxx123 wrote:
On November 15 2011 14:21 Redmark wrote:
It's not match-fixing, Christ.

It's dumb, but it's not match-fixing. Not everyone in jail committed murder. Some of them are there for a couple of nights for getting drunk and punching a guy.



so what would you call this? throwing a game? you make no sense, This is match fixing. It was intentional of coca to loose the game.


Did CoCa benefit in anyway leaving the game? no

Did the BW match-fixers benefit from what they did? Absolutely

People need to stop comparing apples to oranges.


Let me say this to people who say that since this isn't as big deal as Savior incident because Coca dind't gain anything and hasn't caused as huge scandal as then, he should be forgiven :

Killing some owner of rich company to steal money is just as bad as killing homeless guy for fun.
Small or big, match fixing is killing esports
Workload overwhelming. It is a good day to work
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-15 05:33:11
November 15 2011 05:32 GMT
#446
GODDAMMIT. Didn't they learn from BW. WTF... cmon.

I would add more expletives but... FUCK. cmon guys.
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
November 15 2011 05:32 GMT
#447
On November 15 2011 14:11 Clefairy wrote:
NesTea's official statement:

[image loading]

Wtf... Don't they have brains tsk tsk tsk


Nestea....what happened at blizzcon??
Don't be a hypocrite
moo...for DRG
Laneir
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1160 Posts
November 15 2011 05:32 GMT
#448
crazy shit man
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trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
November 15 2011 05:32 GMT
#449
time to change the power rankings....
Garth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States353 Posts
November 15 2011 05:33 GMT
#450
On November 15 2011 14:32 neoghaleon55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 14:11 Clefairy wrote:
NesTea's official statement:

[image loading]

Wtf... Don't they have brains tsk tsk tsk


Nestea....what happened at blizzcon??
Don't be a hypocrite


ROFL
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
November 15 2011 05:33 GMT
#451
Nooooo both of these players I really like....they are young but still not an excuse....sigh.
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-15 05:34:22
November 15 2011 05:33 GMT
#452
I get fucked in the liquibets even before the games start. In a more serious note, they should have carried this in a more intelligent way. At least their chat was hilarious.
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
November 15 2011 05:33 GMT
#453
On November 15 2011 14:33 Garth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 14:32 neoghaleon55 wrote:
On November 15 2011 14:11 Clefairy wrote:
NesTea's official statement:

[image loading]

Wtf... Don't they have brains tsk tsk tsk


Nestea....what happened at blizzcon??
Don't be a hypocrite


ROFL

Clearly, he's referring to the fact that they talked about it onscreen.

//troll
duk3
Profile Joined September 2010
United States807 Posts
November 15 2011 05:33 GMT
#454
I think that the punishment was a bit of an overreaction, but this will probably be beneficial in the future to set a hard stance on any kind of screwing around with match results (Blizzcon...).
Additionally, this could all actually be a setup by Mr. Chae to get IdrA back into Code S as fast as possible.
Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana.
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
November 15 2011 05:34 GMT
#455
On November 15 2011 14:32 neoghaleon55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 14:11 Clefairy wrote:
NesTea's official statement:

[image loading]

Wtf... Don't they have brains tsk tsk tsk


Nestea....what happened at blizzcon??
Don't be a hypocrite

You don't get it, that IS Nestea's point: If you're gona do it, be smart about it like him, instead of spamming in chat so the whole world can prove you did it.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46279 Posts
November 15 2011 05:34 GMT
#456
On November 15 2011 14:28 setzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 14:25 jinixxx123 wrote:
On November 15 2011 14:21 Redmark wrote:
It's not match-fixing, Christ.

It's dumb, but it's not match-fixing. Not everyone in jail committed murder. Some of them are there for a couple of nights for getting drunk and punching a guy.



so what would you call this? throwing a game? you make no sense, This is match fixing. It was intentional of coca to loose the game.


Did CoCa benefit in anyway leaving the game? no

Did the BW match-fixers benefit from what they did? Absolutely

People need to stop comparing apples to oranges.


How do you know he wouldn't have benefitted if Byun had actually won something by progressing (and possibly winning money)? Even if it wasn't pre-meditated, a thank you reward might have been considered.

They are, after all, friends.

And it's not apples and oranges. Coca threw games, and therefore jeopardized the sanctity of SC2 tournament play. Whether you want to call it "match-fixing" or "throwing games" is irrelevant. He still broke rules and allowed the progression of an opponent who shouldn't have moved up, thus making it completely unfair to everyone else who works hard in that tournament. It's bullshit.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DDie
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil2369 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-15 05:36:03
November 15 2011 05:34 GMT
#457
[image loading]



Actually this is beyond stupid, the friggin in game chat? Jesus..
''Television! Teacher, mother, secret lover.''
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
November 15 2011 05:34 GMT
#458
On November 15 2011 14:32 neoghaleon55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 14:11 Clefairy wrote:
NesTea's official statement:

[image loading]

Wtf... Don't they have brains tsk tsk tsk


Nestea....what happened at blizzcon??
Don't be a hypocrite


We all understand it to be "don't they have brains, why would they match fix"

Maybe he means "don't they have brains, why would they make it so obvious and admit it" fail. lol
SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4730 Posts
November 15 2011 05:35 GMT
#459
On November 15 2011 14:32 JunkkaGom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 14:28 setzer wrote:
On November 15 2011 14:25 jinixxx123 wrote:
On November 15 2011 14:21 Redmark wrote:
It's not match-fixing, Christ.

It's dumb, but it's not match-fixing. Not everyone in jail committed murder. Some of them are there for a couple of nights for getting drunk and punching a guy.



so what would you call this? throwing a game? you make no sense, This is match fixing. It was intentional of coca to loose the game.


Did CoCa benefit in anyway leaving the game? no

Did the BW match-fixers benefit from what they did? Absolutely

People need to stop comparing apples to oranges.


Let me say this to people who say that since this isn't as big deal as Savior incident because Coca dind't gain anything and hasn't caused as huge scandal as then, he should be forgiven :

Killing some owner of rich company to steal money is just as bad as killing homeless guy for fun.
Small or big, match fixing is killing esports

That's isn't a good analogy
Murder is murder, this is two completely different circumstances
ლ(╹◡╹ლ)
dogabutila
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1438 Posts
November 15 2011 05:35 GMT
#460
I don't know that he was doing Savior-esque matchfixing. It just seemed to me like he wanted to help his buddy out. Younger players who might not think it through you know? He was just having a ball with his friend / teammate and was like, "oh hey i can help his career by letting him win..and it doesn't hurt me in any way."

Spur of the moment deal, and I bet he's learned from it.
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