EPTI'll be tuning in nonetheless
DreamHack Winter 2011 StarCraft II casters - Page 17
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AimlessAmoeba
Canada704 Posts
I'll be tuning in nonetheless | ||
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Choboo
Sweden2088 Posts
On November 16 2011 05:18 nicksson wrote: Rotterdam sucks! Event will be sick for sure stfu don't diss rotterdam. DH will be sick but it won't feel real without rotti T____T | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On November 16 2011 04:54 MavivaM wrote: This is an interesting point. TB, I'd like to ask you a question if you want: assuming that casting games is your main/only job (I think, at least) do you think that you are fine the way you are? r] It's not my main job, it is a part-time hobby. | ||
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legendre20
United States316 Posts
 ! Look forward to some awesome casting. I do think that Rotterdam should be there though, he's a boss. He and Mr Bitter made a pretty epic casting duo. Looks like an awesome Arena for the final show as well. | ||
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PredY
Czech Republic1731 Posts
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RobX
Sweden14 Posts
Looking forward to TB/Apollo channel on DH! | ||
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RageBot
Israel1530 Posts
On November 16 2011 04:33 Tarotis wrote: It is, and that is why I dont like you as a caster, if I am allowed to say so. Of course, a caster has to be entertaining, but my personal preference is 2 people knowing both analysis and entertainment and preferably having casted a lot of games together (e.g. Bitterdam) No. it's not, he's a color caster, for pepole who aren't knowledgable about the game, and especially pepole who just want to get entertained while watching. I honestly think that having no analysis casters is better than having all analysis casters, because the number of pepole who don't know anything about SC2 but will get hooked by a good caster is way bigger than the number of pepole who just want to learn more about the game. | ||
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champy
Sweden33 Posts
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Trowa127
United Kingdom1230 Posts
/facepalm Its all been said so many timessss. | ||
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deepfield1
United States373 Posts
Can't wait for this! | ||
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
I like how he works with Mr Bitter, but a fantastic caster lineup anyways | ||
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Liqvid.Poopfeast420
Sweden2 Posts
TB has some very clear pro's and cons. Pro's: great voice, great accent, fun humour, quick and manages high pace, clearly audible and generally engaging to listen to. Cons: there is very little analysis. Since he doesnt promise any analysis, thats fine. But I think it is not far from his reach. He should learn it to become brilliant. Right now he mostly comments on which units he expects to die during skirmishes, as well as other obvious stuff "THAT was not good for Huk" or "It's costing him a lot of money to make these Broodlords" or "I think that this planetary fortress might go down" (when it will definitely go down) etc. Thats better than nothing, and to be honest about 20% of all casting is just "stating the obvious", keeping the viewer up-to-speed and maintaining a tense and exciting atmosphere. It is when stating-the-obvious reaches and exceeds the critical 70-80% mark that mid- and higher-tier players start getting a bit bored. The other casters can give predictions, in depth knowledge about builds (their viability in the matchup, who invented them, who is known for them, what their chance of success is etc) as well as maps (what the win ratios are for each matchup etc), I hear Day9 saying things like "on 3 gas, a protoss just CANNOT do this build" which is in my opinion the kind of truly interesting opinions that a caster should insert into a game every now and again. Having said that, with the few things that TB _does know_, he puts on a hell of a show and I can't remember ever being disappointed on hearing that he would cast a game (Rotterdam is smart, but not so fun. Artosis is very smart, but weak voice, etc). So I just wish he would learn more of the builds, the strats, the maps, the legacy and history of builds and also more metagame so that he could give these insights, because then he would become SO good and wouldn't draw all this criticism. You don't need to be master league to be able to make these kinds of statements, SC2 is a finite game with a finite number of learnable builds. Sooo looking forward to Dreamhack! One of the sickest line-ups of players ever! Go Nerchio! Peace | ||
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taldarimAltar
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
On November 16 2011 06:40 RobX wrote: Why all the flak on TB? He's definitely one of my favourite casters. He and Apollo makes an excellent pair, with Apollo supplying the deeper analysis. Not being a grandmasters doesn't equal poor casting. Looking forward to TB/Apollo channel on DH! I agree, TB and Apollo works great together. | ||
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
On November 16 2011 20:36 taldarimAltar wrote: Juz out of curiosity, how much do casters get per gig? They don't release numbers publicly, similar to pretty much every company ever...but with this many big names being flown across the planet when there's so much other stuff for them to do, I'd think they'd be getting paid at the very least a few thousand. | ||
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Tarotis
Germany1931 Posts
On November 16 2011 06:43 RageBot wrote: No. it's not, he's a color caster, for pepole who aren't knowledgable about the game, and especially pepole who just want to get entertained while watching. I honestly think that having no analysis casters is better than having all analysis casters, because the number of pepole who don't know anything about SC2 but will get hooked by a good caster is way bigger than the number of pepole who just want to learn more about the game. I did not say he is a bad caster, I just did say I (me, nobody else, everybody can have his own opinion about him, thats just mine!) dont like him as a caster  | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
On November 16 2011 20:49 Ruscour wrote: They don't release numbers publicly, similar to pretty much every company ever...but with this many big names being flown across the planet when there's so much other stuff for them to do, I'd think they'd be getting paid at the very least a few thousand. Maybe that's why the prize pool have been so small in the past! | ||
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MavivaM
1535 Posts
On November 16 2011 06:16 TotalBiscuit wrote: It's not my main job, it is a part-time hobby. Well, that explains a lot. In that case I can't do anything but wish you good luck for the games! A little feedback if you care: differently from other people, I don't have any problem with commentators/you stating the obvious: after all, your job is telling people what's happening. I just hate when a caster says something completely wrong or miss something that should be clear. Cast cast gogogo | ||
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rakuli
Netherlands9 Posts
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Xenogears
France87 Posts
On November 16 2011 04:16 TotalBiscuit wrote: My role is not analysis, that should be clear. Hi TB, Could you possibly try and play the game a little more? I think it would be nice if you could be more than bronze league. It would bring credibility and sense to what you are saying! Big fan. | ||
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