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Arrietty
Profile Joined October 2011
Philippines29 Posts
November 09 2011 08:05 GMT
#361
Who exactly do you mean by "the PPSL" and "we", when we have gotten numerous statements from your staff that they themselves were screwed over? Who is this "we"?

Will we ever get a clear explanation over what happened and where the money for the flights that were cancelled were spent on? All I hear is "WE'RE sorry", but no explanation. You were "sorry" that you didn't send team cube to Manila and you "feel bad" for them, but you didn't say why exactly you were not able to get them the flights. Where did that money go? Also, if you were having so much problems in the venue and if time was such an issue, why didn't you show up to the event until 3pm? We at the venue were screwed over especially in Day 1 because the staff didn't have directions from anyone and didn't know what to do.

You did not provide any new information in your statement. You wrote a bunch of words about how sorry you are then concluded that you hope it explains everything. That doesn't make much sense. You must think we're fools if you actually thought this solved anything.

Also, can we get an update on the hotel situation. I think this is the most serious one, since someone can actually get into trouble with the authority over not paying this.
TERRANLOL
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States626 Posts
November 09 2011 08:05 GMT
#362
Lol. So it seems the internet mob is pretty harsh in general.
For those that don't agree with it though...
I don't think we should forgive him quite yet and I never think we should let this guy run another tournament again.... ever, even if he apologizes. The fact of the matter is that as of posting this apology there were and probably still are things that are unsolved. He has the poorest leadership skills of anyone I've ever heard of in the eSports community. The community is supposed to accept an apology when it contains an explanation of why things happened and that it was reasonable... but this apology just seems to continually go back to how difficult it is to run tournaments. The fact of the matter is that there are still some important things to address and the timing of the apology itself implies poor, self directed leadership on its own, at the very least.
Think about this, how could gus not know about the situation clive and amanda are in with the hotel bill? From the conversation of someone telling him it sounded like he was pretending not to know. Don't you think Clive and Amanda have called him?
zeOllie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Australia486 Posts
November 09 2011 08:09 GMT
#363
Loada shit.

Why don't you fix up all your shit before you make a crappy apology.

When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love.
GLLvz
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway122 Posts
November 09 2011 08:09 GMT
#364
Blame others when its all your fault. disgusting.
Im sure Targa (the player who couldn't come, is quite happy he said no)
Lvz
iGX
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia414 Posts
November 09 2011 08:11 GMT
#365
On November 09 2011 17:09 zeOllie wrote:
Loada shit.

Why don't you fix up all your shit before you make a crappy apology.




i agree. go apologise by putting things back in place for those you directly affected. there's a bloody 5-digit debt piled up and you're here on TL apologising to the community right now which tbh are the least of your concerns atm
When your bases are ashes...then you have my permission to "GG".
YoonYJ
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia48 Posts
November 09 2011 08:12 GMT
#366
Ok people. A quick update on Amanda, who I am speaking to right now. She is in a lot of financial trouble right now. Does anyone know how I can get in contact with David Ting ?
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 08:15:13
November 09 2011 08:13 GMT
#367
On November 09 2011 17:12 YoonYJ wrote:
Ok people. A quick update on Amanda, who I am speaking to right now. She is in a lot of financial trouble right now. Does anyone know how I can get in contact with David Ting ?


I'll see if I can ping anyone.

Edit: I don't know David Ting but I will pass the msg along.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
November 09 2011 08:14 GMT
#368
On November 09 2011 17:05 Arrietty wrote:
Who exactly do you mean by "the PPSL" and "we", when we have gotten numerous statements from your staff that they themselves were screwed over? Who is this "we"?

Will we ever get a clear explanation over what happened and where the money for the flights that were cancelled were spent on? All I hear is "WE'RE sorry", but no explanation. You were "sorry" that you didn't send team cube to Manila and you "feel bad" for them, but you didn't say why exactly you were not able to get them the flights. Where did that money go? Also, if you were having so much problems in the venue and if time was such an issue, why didn't you show up to the event until 3pm? We at the venue were screwed over especially in Day 1 because the staff didn't have directions from anyone and didn't know what to do.

You did not provide any new information in your statement. You wrote a bunch of words about how sorry you are then concluded that you hope it explains everything. That doesn't make much sense. You must think we're fools if you actually thought this solved anything.

Also, can we get an update on the hotel situation. I think this is the most serious one, since someone can actually get into trouble with the authority over not paying this.


Apparently it was being settled.

In response to
Chad_Hardcastle Chad Hardcastle
@livvybean It is one thing to sort out the hotel bill, but if he doesnt sort out the flights, it won't bode well.

We have
livvybean LiviBee
@Chad_Hardcastle His doing that now I'm sitting here with Amanda and clive

This was about 2 hours ago. Not sure how how it's going though.
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
Arrietty
Profile Joined October 2011
Philippines29 Posts
November 09 2011 08:14 GMT
#369
On November 09 2011 17:12 YoonYJ wrote:
Ok people. A quick update on Amanda, who I am speaking to right now. She is in a lot of financial trouble right now. Does anyone know how I can get in contact with David Ting ?


Isn't Gus supposed to be at the hotel already with Amanda and Clive to settle things?

(and sorry I don't know how to contact David Ting)
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
November 09 2011 08:15 GMT
#370
On November 09 2011 17:14 Arrietty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 17:12 YoonYJ wrote:
Ok people. A quick update on Amanda, who I am speaking to right now. She is in a lot of financial trouble right now. Does anyone know how I can get in contact with David Ting ?


Isn't Gus supposed to be at the hotel already with Amanda and Clive to settle things?

(and sorry I don't know how to contact David Ting)

Don't worry, Diamond's on the case. I guess that means Gus couldn't settle the bills, or was hoping for the IPL money to come in to help him settle it. Maybe if the money is wired to her rather than Gus, David might help her out.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
Zanno
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1484 Posts
November 09 2011 08:16 GMT
#371
On November 09 2011 17:12 YoonYJ wrote:
Ok people. A quick update on Amanda, who I am speaking to right now. She is in a lot of financial trouble right now. Does anyone know how I can get in contact with David Ting ?

it's 3 am on the east coast of the US right now - i wouldn't expect it to be possible to get in touch with him for another 6-12 hours
aaaaa
YoonYJ
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia48 Posts
November 09 2011 08:16 GMT
#372
Yes, but she has been telling me she is scared of being jailed right now as only a portion has been repaid in terms of debt. I need a sponsor to help out; there will be benefits in terms of publicity for this (probably more effective than any promotion). If not then Dox and I will ask the community to help us solve this issue financially.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 08:21:04
November 09 2011 08:17 GMT
#373
On November 09 2011 17:16 Zanno wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 17:12 YoonYJ wrote:
Ok people. A quick update on Amanda, who I am speaking to right now. She is in a lot of financial trouble right now. Does anyone know how I can get in contact with David Ting ?

it's 3 am on the east coast of the US right now - i wouldn't expect it to be possible to get in touch with him for another 6-12 hours

I think David and IGN are based in California.

EDIT: Yoon, you can try PM David on reddit. His reddit account is dting888 - http://www.reddit.com/user/dting888
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
Lunares
Profile Joined May 2010
United States909 Posts
November 09 2011 08:17 GMT
#374
On November 09 2011 17:16 YoonYJ wrote:
Yes, but she has been telling me she is scared of being jailed right now as only a portion has been repaid in terms of debt. I need a sponsor to help out; there will be benefits in terms of publicity for this (probably more effective than any promotion). If not then Dox and I will ask the community to help us solve this issue financially.


If the players that won are there could ask them to use the prize money that they supposedly received already with a promise from IPL that they will get paid back once all this crap is sorted out?
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
November 09 2011 08:18 GMT
#375
This cannot been because of stupidity, too much shit going go on...
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Taefox
Profile Joined March 2010
1533 Posts
November 09 2011 08:18 GMT
#376
shitty apology, keep trying to tend the responsibilities to the others when it's your fault and shit. Why don't you just fucking take it like a man ?
What a asshole
@taefoxy
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
November 09 2011 08:19 GMT
#377
This is one of the funniest threads I've read in a long time, can't stop laughing!
I <3 Plexa.
LeoIsLegend
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom5 Posts
November 09 2011 08:19 GMT
#378
This apology is laughable, the fact that he would even offer this half-assed apology thinking it will change anything... he's a bigger idiot than I originally thought. He's dug too big a whole this time and there's no getting out of it!
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
November 09 2011 08:19 GMT
#379
Doesn't look like I will be any help, sorry.

Best of luck, what a shitty situation
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Zanno
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 08:20:20
November 09 2011 08:19 GMT
#380
On November 09 2011 17:17 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 17:16 Zanno wrote:
On November 09 2011 17:12 YoonYJ wrote:
Ok people. A quick update on Amanda, who I am speaking to right now. She is in a lot of financial trouble right now. Does anyone know how I can get in contact with David Ting ?

it's 3 am on the east coast of the US right now - i wouldn't expect it to be possible to get in touch with him for another 6-12 hours

I think David and IGN are based in California.

then it's midnight there right now

i couldn't tell you what his hours are, i don't work for ign

i'm just letting you know that most people in the US are sleeping right now, so it might be tough to find him
On November 09 2011 17:19 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
This is one of the funniest threads I've read in a long time, can't stop laughing!

it's actually not funny at all - he just scammed our community for $13k+
aaaaa
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